L9[01:44:43] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L10[01:44:44] <LunchBot> You launch a rocket that launches rocket-launching rockets. The international community frowns due to your shenanigans.

L11[01:45:54] <Eddi|zuHause> they just don't appreciate the fractals.

L12[02:03:50] <XXCoder> lol

L13[02:03:58] <XXCoder> ;mission

L14[02:03:58] <LunchBot> You present an Erinaceinae with a dilemma. Gauss and Jordan eliminate you.

L15[02:04:21] <XXCoder> Im similiar with gauss but other 2 dunno lol

L16[02:04:28] <XXCoder> familiar

L19[02:14:17] <packbart> The moonrat's dilemma, I see :)

L21[02:16:18] <Eddi|zuHause> XXCoder: most call it "gauss algorithm" but really it's called "gauss-jordan algorithm of solving a linear equation system by elimitation"

L22[02:16:27] <XXCoder> ahh ok

L23[02:18:04] <packbart> Michael Jordan eliminates you with a Gauss rifle

L24[02:18:30] <Althego> hehe

L25[02:20:59] <Eddi|zuHause> my math professor once said gauss would be really mad if he learned they named something that trivial after him

L27[03:04:17] <sandbox> degauss

L28[03:04:43] <sandbox> !mission

L29[03:04:43] <LunchBot> You believe yourself to have transcended conventional morality. The last thing you see is a Blue Sky of Death.

L30[03:05:23] <Eddi|zuHause> for once, a very logical chain of events :p

L31[03:28:37] <XXCoder> yep

L32[03:28:48] <XXCoder> ;mission

L33[03:28:48] <LunchBot> You order a batch of LV-T30's. You fail to control your FOOF (dioxygen difluoride) and blow up the entire space complex.

L34[03:29:05] <XXCoder> hmm wonder if those parts use it

L40[03:54:53] <packbart> "[Star Citizen] has spent considerably more money than actual interplanetary space missions to get nowhere near implementing one" *snark*

L41[03:55:41] <packbart> XXCoder: I guess they don't, so it all blew up when you tried :)

L47[04:10:17] <Eddi|zuHause> or maybe you stored FOOF for entirely unrelated reasons...

L50[04:41:15] <Azander> !mission

L51[04:41:15] <LunchBot> A question weirdly phrased you ask. You get mauled by a catbus, and your space program fails due to leaving insufficient documentation for your successors.

L52[04:43:33] <Mat2ch> That's what you get for not speaking proper English. Also document your stuff.

L53[04:43:36] <Mat2ch> :D

L62[06:37:28] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L63[06:37:28] <LunchBot> You install FAR. But there, cleverly disguised as a bomb, is a bomb.

L64[06:37:49] <Eddi|zuHause> as long as the bomb is FAR...

L65[06:44:43] <sandbox> !mission

L66[06:44:43] <LunchBot> You attempt to recreate the Cassini-Huygens mission. The resulting explosion is visible from space. That's less remarkable than it sounds because it's *in* space, but Mitdun certainly has a good view.

L67[07:00:49] <packbart> velps, time to get another Titan from ze wats

L74[07:40:13] <Mat2ch> Why does SpaceX bother and have the legs of the OLM painted? Do they really thing the paint will survive this time? :D

L75[07:48:57] <FLHerne> well, this time it won't be sandblasted

L76[07:53:46] <Mat2ch> Water blasted

L77[07:57:17] <Althego> from top, plasma jet cutting, from below, water jet cutting

L85[11:27:04] <raptop> "air-launched SSTO"

L86[11:27:12] <SporkWitch> taht's two stages!

L87[11:27:25] <raptop> exactly!

L88[11:33:24] <Althego> hehe

L89[11:34:30] <sandbox> !mission

L90[11:34:30] <LunchBot> You open an airlock to EVA and fix a malfunctioning rocket engine. Houston has a problem.

L91[12:28:40] <darsie> Balloon launched SSTO?

L92[12:30:09] <Mat2ch> Still two stages. ;)

L93[12:31:17] <Althego> cannon launched ssto?

L94[12:32:21] <Mat2ch> I'd say the cannon is a stange.

L95[12:51:11] <Eddi|zuHause> dunno. are launch clamps a stage?

L96[12:51:48] <Eddi|zuHause> and if no, at what point does it change into a stage?

L97[12:52:05] <raptop> Only if you abuse them to the point where the altitude gain matters

L98[12:52:23] <Mat2ch> I'd say a stage is something that has to propel the craft in a way.

L99[12:52:33] <darsie> A truck ride up a mountain?

L100[12:52:56] <SporkWitch> i'd argue the balloon only counts as a separate stage if it's detached/ejected, rather than deflated and retracted.

L101[12:53:56] <raptop> The thing is, given KSP's scale, a craft air-launched at, say, 15 km and 350 m/s has a much easier time getting to orbit than one at 0/0. The above figures save what, half the Δv?

L102[12:54:38] <darsie> You need about 2200 mls.

L103[12:54:43] <darsie> m/s

L104[12:55:50] <SporkWitch> definitely a lot. I'd argue even on Earth it's a non-trivial difference just getting out of the thick atmosphere and starting with some non-vertical velocity. Hence the various attempts with air launches; air-breathing engines are MUCH more efficient, and the stage is trivially reuable. This also reduces the mass of your upper stages

L105[12:56:26] <raptop> Yeah, something like 2296 m/s at 70 km and 2246 m/s at 100 km. But then there's that ~1+ km/s of drag. Like, there's a reason my craft seem to expend ~3400 m/s from the pad

L106[13:02:17] <darsie> That's vacuum dv.

L107[13:03:09] <darsie> That's inflated. Also 3400 is very inefficient.

L108[13:04:01] <darsie> I did it in about 2850 or so.

L118[17:21:34] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L119[17:21:34] <LunchBot> You upgrade the launchpad. To be fair, your actions were justified in context.

L120[17:22:38] <raptop> hmm

L121[17:43:02] <Eddi|zuHause> are you going to argue with my justification?

L122[17:47:38] <XXCoder> dunno how to take it even off context lol

L123[17:47:49] <XXCoder> ;mission

L124[17:47:49] <LunchBot> Several tourists sign up for "the trip of a lifetime." There'll be a hot time in the old town tonight.

L125[17:48:06] <XXCoder> ohh space then... hot times after landing

L126[17:48:26] <XXCoder> certainly experence of lifetime