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L1[00:05:35] <Eddi|zuHause> i vaguely remember a giant discussion about whether developing an ariane 6 at all, or continue improving ariane 5
L2[00:06:13] <Eddi|zuHause> (could have been just about the naming)
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L5[01:22:04] <Eddi|zuHause> ariane is probably the most "design by committee" as it can get
L6[01:26:43] <XXCoder> ;mission
L7[01:26:43] <LunchBot> The void calls to you. But you forgot to add power sources to your rocket.
L8[01:26:52] <XXCoder> oh void have to wait a bit more
L9[01:28:20] <Eddi|zuHause> it's ok. the call will just get louder over time
L10[01:28:40] <XXCoder> good thinjg im deaf
L11[01:28:42] <Eddi|zuHause> and consume your soul if not answered...
L12[01:29:10] <XXCoder> now thats unfair, I die without knowing why
L13[01:29:14] <Izzy> eventually it will replace your soul and you'll become a newscorp journalist
L14[01:30:41] <Eddi|zuHause> last time i played i made a survey sat, with just barely not enough battery to actually run the survey
L15[01:30:54] <XXCoder> lol
L16[01:31:27] <Eddi|zuHause> like it stops at 99% or so
L17[01:34:29] <XXCoder> sounds like tiny solar panel'd do it
L18[01:34:39] <XXCoder> it would delay shutdown long enough
L19[01:35:07] <XXCoder> I find it funny that you can do report on exiting rocket... on way up.
L20[01:35:31] <XXCoder> just turn off engine, exit, make report, enter again and complete the orbiting
L21[01:35:57] <Eddi|zuHause> what do you mean with "report"?
L22[01:36:23] <packbart> the best EVA reports are made on re-entry ;)
L23[01:36:23] <XXCoder> i forgot exact details, science report of some sort
L24[01:38:03] <Eddi|zuHause> i sometimes try to get the weird experiments, like "splashed down in the badlands"
L25[01:39:30] <Eddi|zuHause> but the "eva report while flying" ones you can usually get by jumping up at the landing site
L26[01:39:57] <packbart> only low, not high
L27[01:40:17] <packbart> although...
L28[01:40:19] <Eddi|zuHause> flying high you can get by just barely dipping into the atmosphere
L29[01:40:32] <packbart> are there mountains above the "high" line? :)
L30[01:40:42] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think so :p
L31[01:40:44] <Althego> there is also the landed in water
L32[01:41:05] <packbart> Eddi|zuHause: well, I just like to send Jeb out to cling in the plasma stream to get a report
L33[01:41:34] <Eddi|zuHause> that usually fails to hold on :p
L34[01:41:43] <Mat2ch> I think Jeb likes it, too.
L35[01:42:15] <Eddi|zuHause> you can also just do space jumping :p
L36[01:44:46] <Mat2ch> !mission add You send the press to the space bar.
L37[01:44:46] <LunchBot> Added mission: You send the press to the space bar.
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L39[01:54:02] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L40[01:54:03] <LunchBot> To prevent the boil-off of your liquid fuel you put sunscreen on the tanks. You end up on an escape trajectory out of the sun.
L41[01:54:37] <Eddi|zuHause> the sun screen was too effective?
L42[01:54:55] <Eddi|zuHause> better alternative to solar sails?
L43[01:55:54] <Althego> hehe
L44[01:56:14] <Althego> maybe it exploded, as everything in ksp, and propelled you
L45[01:57:09] <packbart> the initial calculation included fuel boil-off
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L48[02:36:16] <Eddi|zuHause> not sure if that is helping or hurting :p
L49[02:37:08] <Mat2ch> !mission
L50[02:37:08] <LunchBot> You bolster your snacks' nutritional value by adding nitrogen triiodide. The Kraken sends a scathing email to mission control, demanding they inform you of its displeasure.
L51[02:38:46] <Eddi|zuHause> did anyone ever research the nutritional value of NI₃?
L52[02:40:00] <Mat2ch> You can try eating it. The taste will blow your mind!
L53[02:40:10] <Althego> hehe
L54[02:40:19] <Althego> i didnt knwo what it was. a sensitive explosiv
L55[02:40:21] <darsie> I is valuable in the thyroid. Not sure how to quantify that value.
L56[02:40:37] <Althego> you know that stuff, that when you eat it it makes small explosions in your mouth, little pops
L57[02:40:42] <Mat2ch> It is so sensitive, it gets set off by alpha particles!
L58[02:40:45] <Althego> it could be a replacement for that
L59[02:40:52] <Althego> in small dust sized particles
L60[02:42:01] <Althego> https://www.acs.org/molecule-of-the-week/archive/a/azidoazide-azide.html
L61[02:42:05] <darsie> NI3 decomposition would add heat to the body, but no metabolically relevant energy.
L62[02:42:09] <Mat2ch> Which will go of when you touch the wrapping :D
L63[02:42:40] <darsie> It's like, what's the nutritional value of hot water?
L64[02:42:42] <Althego> the best is it explodes on its own
L65[02:42:45] <Althego> just because
L66[02:43:11] <Mat2ch> but now I wonder how those popping in the mouth stuff works.
L67[02:43:46] <darsie> Should we subtract the negative effects from the positives?
L68[02:43:46] <Mat2ch> https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/how-does-popping-candy-work/
L69[02:43:54] <Mat2ch> And there's an article about it from the BBC ;)
L70[02:44:04] <Eddi|zuHause> probably the reverse of NI₃, because that "pops" when it's dry, not when it's wet :p
L71[02:44:49] <Mat2ch> It's just CO2 stored in candy.
L72[02:44:53] <Eddi|zuHause> in all likelyhood, things that pop in the mouth have a dissolvable shell around them
L73[02:45:24] <Mat2ch> you just melt sugar, pump CO2 under high pressure into it and let it cool rapidly.
L74[02:45:35] <Mat2ch> The candy will contain the pressure until it gets wet.
L75[02:45:41] <darsie> Hmm, I2 might disinfect.
L76[02:45:58] <Mat2ch> Explosive disinfection. Sounds, ehm, Kerbal.
L77[02:46:35] <darsie> You could amputate and disinfect an infected leg with it.
L78[02:46:39] <Eddi|zuHause> it is also used in radiation prevention
L79[02:47:55] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know exactly how it works, but if radiation exposure is expected, they give out iod-pills
L80[02:48:30] <darsie> It saturates the thyroid with iodide (I-) so it won't absorb radioactive idoine.
L81[02:48:42] <Mat2ch> That's to flood your thyroid/Schilddrüse with non radioactive...
L82[02:48:44] <Mat2ch> dang darsie :D
L83[02:48:51] <darsie> :)
L84[02:49:06] * darsie types with the Dvork keyboard layout. Heck, I use a keyboard ;).
L85[02:49:34] <Mat2ch> I tried dvorak once. And didn't have the patience to relearn everything
L86[02:49:45] <darsie> Yeah, it took a while.
L87[02:49:52] <Mat2ch> I took so long, because I had to look up thyroid :P
L88[02:50:12] <darsie> Jetzt umschreibe ich diese ungewoehnlichen Umlaute immer.
L89[02:50:42] <Mat2ch> There are probably hot keys to write Umlaute
L90[02:50:55] * Mat2ch is all in for mixing languages today
L91[02:51:15] <darsie> I can do windows (compose)-a-" for ä. I only do that when it's necessary.
L92[02:52:05] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't get the hype around dvorak
L93[02:52:29] <Eddi|zuHause> there's no reason why it would be asymptotically better than the common layouts
L94[02:52:32] <darsie> It's optimized to type fast, not to prevent the typewriter hammers to get stuck.
L95[02:52:58] <darsie> You could as well have said exponentially ;).
L96[02:53:17] <Eddi|zuHause> not the same thing :p
L97[02:53:32] <darsie> no, but equally nonsensical :).
L98[02:54:05] <Mat2ch> Since I need more time to think about what I want to write than writing it...
L99[02:54:10] <Althego> for programming try colemak rather than dvorak
L100[02:54:12] <Eddi|zuHause> "asymptotical" here means "in the long run", as in, comparing two people who are both long time trained typists
L101[02:55:05] * darsie needs a hide.
L102[02:55:07] <Althego> dvorak is faster but probably there is a little difference
L103[02:55:44] <Althego> and why are we still using keyboards anyway
L104[02:55:58] <Althego> we need thought typing
L105[02:56:00] <Eddi|zuHause> because we are used to them.
L106[02:56:59] <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably the most obvious use case for LLMs: typing aid
L107[02:57:14] <darsie> If onyl tehy could hear.
L108[02:57:38] <Eddi|zuHause> remember T9? :p
L109[02:57:49] <darsie> Is that a terminator?
L110[02:58:19] <Eddi|zuHause> no, 9-key typing dictionary, used in old cellphones
L111[02:58:32] <darsie> ahh, yeah :)
L112[02:58:48] <darsie> Hmm, dictionary? No, can't remember that.
L113[02:59:26] <Eddi|zuHause> it used dictionary lookup to decide which of the 3 letters associated with a key you meant to type, so you had to press each key only once
L114[02:59:42] <Eddi|zuHause> imagine that, but with a LLM instead
L115[03:00:30] <darsie> mhm
L116[03:02:05] <Althego> heh t9, instantly turned it off
L117[03:02:07] <Althego> was useless
L118[03:02:28] <Althego> in fact it was worse than useless
L119[03:09:30] <Mat2ch> Remember Swype? That was great
L120[03:10:16] <Althego> dont remember
L121[03:10:20] <Mat2ch> Used it a lot on my Nokia N9
L122[03:12:28] <Mat2ch> I miss Swype. And hate software patents, because that's the reason why it never really became commonly used.
L123[03:16:45] <Eddi|zuHause> originally patents were made to make it easier for other people to use stuff...
L124[03:17:09] <Althego> and copyright meant you could copy your own own work
L125[03:24:46] <Eddi|zuHause> really, the original definition of a patent required that you make publicly available all things to rebuild the thing you patented
L126[03:25:12] <Eddi|zuHause> (and "publicly" meant everyone who purchased the patent)
L127[03:26:19] <Eddi|zuHause> but that got twisted and distorted so you put just enough information in for the patent office to believe it, but everyone who tries to use it stumbles over the missing pieces
L128[03:27:05] <Eddi|zuHause> and then you weaponize the patent againt your competition
L129[03:27:25] <XXCoder> vague ones too
L130[03:27:31] <XXCoder> like apple rectangle one
L131[03:28:56] <Eddi|zuHause> that's also part of the "missing bits", make it so ambiguous and vague so it can be applied to things you actually didn't think about
L132[03:36:47] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L133[03:36:48] <LunchBot> You use drainage pipes after having run out of fuel lines. However, you lack sufficient fuel to maintain your heading.
L134[03:37:34] <packbart> I guess it all drained?
L135[03:37:38] <Eddi|zuHause> just one more pipe will fix it. one more.... :p
L136[03:40:50] <XXCoder> hah thats perfect combo
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L141[06:17:51] <KrazyKrl> ;outcome add You sweat so hard that all the spiders in your EVA suit drown.
L142[06:17:51] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You sweat so hard that all the spiders in your EVA suit drown.
L143[07:14:17] <Eddi|zuHause> poor spiders. spiders are our friends.
L144[07:27:22] <Eddi|zuHause> there once was a british children tv program, where in one episode the protagonist befriended a spider. they had to cut that episode in the australian airing
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L150[09:50:05] <FLHerne> .outcome add The latest memo is incomprehensible. You can't figure out what the sender was thinking, and what appear to be instructions are almost gibberish, but you're bored enough to attempt taking them literally.
L151[09:50:06] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The latest memo is incomprehensible. You can't figure out what the sender was thinking, and what appear to be instructions are almost gibberish, but you're bored enough to attempt taking them literally.
L152[09:50:13] <FLHerne> oops, should be mission, will fix
L153[09:50:40] <Mat2ch> That could be an outcome, too.
L154[09:51:33] <Mat2ch> !mission
L155[09:51:33] <LunchBot> You reticulate your limbs. Jeb eats your lunch.
L156[09:51:53] <Mat2ch> What
L157[09:51:55] <Mat2ch> Jeb
L158[09:51:57] <Mat2ch> why
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L160[09:54:37] <Eddi|zuHause> i was just thinking "that sounds like a mission to me"
L161[09:54:57] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L162[09:54:58] <LunchBot> You ask Sinnerman where he's going to run to. Jebediah is pulled over for drinking and flying.
L163[09:55:42] <Eddi|zuHause> Bakerman is baking bread. The night train is coming.
L164[09:58:43] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: "to divide, mark, or construct so as to form a network"
L165[09:59:07] <FLHerne> I guess you were probably unable to finish your lunch, so Jeb was just tidying up
L166[10:00:22] <sandbox> !mission
L167[10:00:22] <LunchBot> You hire Big Man Japan for your next mission. You hear voices in your head ever since that fateful event.
L168[10:03:10] <packbart> "[Big Man Japan] is an otherwise normal Japanese citizen except for an inherited ability to grow to a height of approximately 30 meters in response to the application of high voltage electricity." - well, maybe forgot the batteries again
L169[10:03:14] <Mat2ch> !outcome quit
L170[10:03:15] <LunchBot> This does not confirm Half-Life 3. Quite the opposite, in fact.
L171[10:03:20] <Mat2ch> !outcome quit KSPofficial
L172[10:03:20] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "quit KSPofficial".
L173[10:03:22] <Mat2ch> !outcome leave KSPofficial
L174[10:03:23] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "leave KSPofficial".
L175[10:03:37] <Mat2ch> !outcome add You ragequit from #KSPOfficial.
L176[10:03:37] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You ragequit from #KSPOfficial.
L177[10:03:58] <Mat2ch> !outcome fixup s/from /g
L178[10:03:58] <LunchBot> Format for `fixup` should be s/<old>/<new>/
L179[10:04:00] <Mat2ch> !outcome fixup s/from /
L180[10:04:00] <LunchBot> Format for `fixup` should be s/<old>/<new>/
L181[10:04:08] <Mat2ch> !outcome fixup s/from //
L182[10:04:08] <LunchBot> New text is: You ragequit #KSPOfficial.
L183[10:04:10] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: sorry
L184[10:04:27] <FLHerne> it behaves sort of like sed but only if you don't try to be clever :p
L185[10:04:35] <Mat2ch> hehe. No problem
L186[10:04:47] <Mat2ch> Was mainly my mistake. It's hot here, today.
L187[10:04:51] <Mat2ch> And a slow day, too.
L188[10:05:14] <Mat2ch> And for some reasons some of my muscles are twitching, when I sit wrong or hold my arm wrong :|
L189[10:06:11] * raptop throws Mat2ch a refrigerated bottle of gatorade
L190[10:09:05] <Mat2ch> This smells like advertisment.
L191[10:09:15] <Mat2ch> What did they give you and what share will I get? :D
L192[10:12:28] <raptop> hah
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L194[10:49:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i have the suspicion my twitch issue is a javascript problem
L195[10:49:48] <Mat2ch> That is possible.
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L213[18:03:55] <raptop> !mission
L214[18:03:55] <LunchBot> You were caught playing KSP when you should have been launching the new SpaceX Rocket. We will be consumed by their trajectorial instability!
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L222[20:00:38] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L223[20:00:38] <LunchBot> You embark on a mission to find and capture the Mock Turtle. Jeb eats your lunch.
L224[20:00:59] <Eddi|zuHause> aw man... i even put a post-it on it...
L225[20:22:27] <raptop> !outcome add Betty gives you a sink rate of ★★⯪☆☆.
L226[20:22:28] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Betty gives you a sink rate of ★★⯪☆☆.
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L228[20:23:56] ChanServ sets mode: +o on Althego
L229[20:24:27] <Eddi|zuHause> i seem to be missing the middle glyph
L230[20:27:07] <raptop> half-filled star
L231[20:27:21] <raptop> so the rating is 2.5/5 stars
L232[20:44:21] <XXCoder> ;mission
L233[20:44:22] <LunchBot> You sit 3 days straight playing KSP and develop a thrombosis in your legs which eventually breaks free and blocks vital arteries. The Queen is yeeted off of the surface of the earth at 8km/s.
L234[20:44:50] <XXCoder> oh boy so me ponentally dying caused body of queen tp fly off eh
L235[20:46:16] <raptop> Lunchbot loves leaving out several critical intermediate steps
L236[20:46:26] <XXCoder> ;mission add Certain bear comes in to wish everyone a happy Winds-day.
L237[20:46:27] <LunchBot> Added mission: Certain bear comes in to wish everyone a happy Winds-day.
L238[20:46:37] <raptop> ?
L239[20:47:19] <XXCoder> pooh bear lol in blustery day
L240[20:50:25] <raptop> hrm
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L249[23:33:45] <Althego> rocketlab electron launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAwEeNI_D10
L250[23:33:47] <Althego> maybe
L251[23:33:59] <Althego> already delayed by two hours
L252[23:34:22] <darsie> good job waiting for me :)
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