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L9[02:26:45] <packbart> "a front-heavy
plane flies poorly, a tail-heavy plane flies once."
L10[02:27:11] <packbart> nah, it's just a
question of moar thrust
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L12[02:30:14] <XXCoder> ;outcome add The
more thrust, the more sins of design you can get away with.
L13[02:30:14] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The
more thrust, the more sins of design you can get away with.
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L44[09:25:59] <sandbox> !mission
L45[09:25:59] <LunchBot> You hire Big Man
Japan for your next mission. There is a relevant xkcd made
tomorrow.
L46[09:26:26] <XXCoder> thats a recent
repeat lol
L47[09:26:31] <XXCoder> (mission)
L48[09:26:40] <XXCoder> ;mission
L49[09:26:40] <LunchBot> You go
nerd-sniping. You find out that all your base are belong to
US.
L50[09:26:49] <XXCoder> damn I got
out-nerded
L51[09:28:59] <sandbox> somebody set us up
the bomb
L52[09:41:16] <Althego> hehe
L53[09:44:51] <packbart> darsie: maybe not
enough dV
L54[09:45:09] <darsie> I have lots of
dv
L55[09:45:20] <darsie> It's either escape
or land.
L56[09:45:28] <darsie> No stable
orbit.
L57[09:47:01] <XXCoder> its too small scale
and hard to do actual orbit
L58[09:47:06] <XXCoder> you either is too
slow or fast
L59[09:47:20] <XXCoder> closest thing to
orbiting possible is outside crystal sphere
L60[09:47:25] <darsie> It seems
impossible.
L61[09:47:59] <darsie> I thought of
orbiting the sphere, but the edge of the universe is quite close to
it. Could try, though.
L62[10:09:23] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L63[10:09:23] <LunchBot> You übercharge
Bill Kerman. Congratulations! The party gains experience!
L64[10:12:15] <Eddi|zuHause> it was all
worth it for the XP!
L65[10:13:38] <darsie> Does Bill have to
pay to be an astronaut?
L66[10:15:12] <Eddi|zuHause> i was thinking
electrical charge
L67[10:15:32] <darsie> I thought of
overfilling the jetpack.
L68[10:16:08] <darsie> IRL they use
nitrogen.
L69[10:18:52] <Eddi|zuHause> that's
probably a byproduct of making liquid oxygen?
L70[10:20:32] <darsie> It is, kinda. Or
oxygen is a byproduct of making liquid nitrogen ;).
L71[10:21:10] <FLHerne> übercharging is a
TF2 thing, I believe
L73[10:23:00] <Eddi|zuHause> so he's going
supersayan...
L74[10:23:38] <darsie> TF?
L75[10:24:09] <darsie> Team Fortress
L76[10:26:22] <FLHerne> it's a KSP thing,
roughly no-one actually says the name :p
L77[10:28:02] <darsie> Ok, but it's still
nice to know ;).
L78[10:28:28] <darsie> Do you say KSP when
you actually say it?
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L81[10:33:19] <Althego> there are air
liquification plants which make liquid nitrogen and oxygen mostly,
but in smaller quantities stuff like argon
L82[10:34:15] <FLHerne> Yes
L83[10:34:30] <FLHerne> unless it's to
someone who doesn't know what it is at all
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L85[10:34:45] <darsie> And neon. There was
a neon shortage due to the Ukraine war as there's a big air
liquefication plant there. The neon is used for semiconductor
lithography lasers.
L86[10:35:09] <FLHerne> which in hindsight
probably applies to Team Fortress 2 there, but I kind of assumed
everyone on The Internet had heard of TF2 by now simply because of
the memes :p
L87[10:35:42] <FLHerne> [me included, I
played it once for about 10 minutes just to see what it's
like]
L88[10:35:49] <Althego> it is worse, as far
as i know it is also a side effect of steel plants, just normally
it is not captured
L89[10:36:32] <darsie> Yeah, steel plants
use oxygen to burn excess carbon in pig iron.
L90[10:36:59] <Althego> but how does that
result in neon? i cant imagin
L91[10:37:00] <Althego> e
L92[10:37:07] <Eddi|zuHause> so you're
getting hot nitrogen... were would that be useful?
L93[10:37:08] <darsie> There's neon in
air.
L94[10:37:47] <darsie> hot nitrogen?
L95[10:37:58] <Eddi|zuHause> if you burn
the oxygen, the nitrogen remains
L96[10:38:02] <darsie> no, steel plants use
pure oxygen.
L97[10:38:22] <Eddi|zuHause> then where
would the neon come from?
L98[10:38:25] <darsie> using air is
outdated.
L99[10:38:30] <darsie> air
L100[10:38:35] <Eddi|zuHause> you're
contradicting yourself...
L101[10:38:47] <darsie> Ok,
supernovae.
L102[10:39:04] <Eddi|zuHause> there's neon
in air. but they don't use air.
L103[10:39:19] <Eddi|zuHause> they use
pure oxygen. but there's no neon in pure oxygen.
L104[10:39:44] <darsie> Air gets liquified
and distilled, to separate O2 from N2. I guess neon doesn't
liquefy.
L107[10:40:59] <Eddi|zuHause> these things
work by separating the temperatures at which gases liquify
L108[10:41:26] <Eddi|zuHause> at one
temperature you're getting pure nitrogen, at one temperature you're
getting pure oxygen, etc.
L109[10:42:17] <Eddi|zuHause> back when i
learned about it, they only mentioned argon, not neon...
L110[10:42:32] <packbart> ah, so it's
rather that neon production sites are co-located with steel plants
because they need lots of oxygen
L111[10:43:52] <Eddi|zuHause> the smaller
the gas molecules (or atoms, with noble gases) the harder it gets
to liquify them
L112[10:44:35] <darsie> There may be other
ways to separate them, like diffusion, centrifugation,
adsorption.
L113[10:44:43] <packbart> otherwise, I
only found rather vague allusions like stock-market advise.
"neon gas is also a byproduct of steel production, and China
has a vibrant steel-making industry right now. It’s possible that
Chinese producers could step up neon production this
year"
L114[10:45:46] <Eddi|zuHause> helium, for
example, gets extracted from rocks. not from liquified air
L115[10:46:13] <darsie> But we can liquefy
helium, so maybe they just liquefy Ar and Ne and distill them. He
would remain gaseous, then.
L116[10:46:14] <Althego> that is a side
product of radioactive decay
L117[10:46:52] <darsie> So is radon.
L118[10:47:01] <darsie> I have radon
:).
L119[10:47:30] <Eddi|zuHause> why does
that sound like a "we have radon at home" meme? :p
L120[10:47:30] <Althego> as the total
blender ad i can say it too: dont breath it
L121[10:47:32] <Mat2ch> darsie: I say
K-S-P or Kerbal Space Program. And I hate it when people just say
"Oh, I played Kerbal"
L122[10:47:34] <Mat2ch> Kerbal WHAT
L123[10:47:47] <Eddi|zuHause> Kerbal
Dating Sim
L124[10:48:01] <Althego> kerbal signap
processing :)
L125[10:48:06] <Althego> *signal
L126[10:48:09] <Mat2ch> Kerbal Dating Sim
sounds... weird
L127[10:48:26] <Eddi|zuHause> ... it was
officially announced... :p
L128[10:48:26] <Mat2ch> !mission You try
to implement a Dating Sim in kOS.
L129[10:48:26] <LunchBot> No mission found
matching "You try to implement a Dating Sim in
kOS.".
L130[10:48:30] <Althego> not really. if
there is monster prom
L131[10:48:32] <Mat2ch> !mission add You
try to implement a Dating Sim in kOS.
L132[10:48:32] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You try to implement a Dating Sim in kOS.
L133[10:48:42] <packbart> KSP is
universally known as "Kerbal". even long-time players use
it
L134[10:49:00] <packbart> and now there's
Kerbal 2
L135[10:49:02] <Mat2ch> No, they are
wrong, it's Kerbal Space Program or KSP ;)
L136[10:49:14] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
think i've ever heard anyone saying "kerbal"
L138[10:49:30] <FLHerne> Nor have I
L139[10:49:49] <packbart> I rarely see any
KSP Twitcher who doesn't :)
L140[10:50:00] <Mat2ch> darsie: Oh, how
reizend!
L141[10:50:04] <darsie> :)
L142[10:50:15] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
think i've seen KSP on twitch
L143[10:50:22] <Althego> toss a coin to
your twitcher :)
L144[10:50:23] <Mat2ch> Even Scott does
it
L145[10:50:42] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
watch a lot of scott either
L146[10:51:01] <Mat2ch> I don't do it
anymore
L147[10:51:09] <darsie> I say
Kerbal.
L148[10:51:13] <Mat2ch> I'm still mad he
didn't finish the Stellaris series
L149[10:51:19] <darsie> "Let's play
Kerbal?"
L150[10:51:41] <darsie> Or rather "I
played Kerbal."
L151[10:51:48] <Eddi|zuHause> whenever i
assume the target audience knows about it, i say KSP, otherwise i
say the full name
L152[10:51:55] *
Mat2ch 's eye twitches
L153[10:52:03] <darsie> "Why were you
so late up again?" "I played Kerbal."
L154[10:52:17] <sandbox> I miss the days
of the friday dev streams
L155[10:53:05] <darsie> My friend gave up
completing her Duna sample return mission. Instead she tries to
solve Escape speed.
L156[10:53:47] <Mat2ch> sandbox: I think
KSP2 is dead in the water :|
L157[10:54:07] <darsie> So I should not
buy it?
L158[10:54:09] <XXCoder> darsie: I know
theres more planets but I cant get it to appear. not sure how it
does
L159[10:54:26] <sandbox> it's obviously
not going to be the same
L160[10:54:31] <XXCoder> for example
theres canadian planet
L161[10:55:12] <darsie> Can't remember
Canada Planet. My geography may be lacking.
L162[10:55:20] <Mat2ch> XXCoder: oh,
sorry.
L163[10:55:30] <Mat2ch> darsie: sorry, to
you, too.
L164[10:55:32] <XXCoder> graphics exist
but I cant figure how to get escape to load it
L165[10:56:18] <darsie> What game are we
talking about?
L166[10:56:19] <Althego> is this the
pineapple on pizza of ksp players?
L167[10:56:39] <FLHerne> At least the KSP2
dev logs have improved a lot recently
L168[10:56:59] <FLHerne> they're being
much more open about what they're doing
L169[10:57:10] <FLHerne> still hoping to
see a public bug tracker though
L170[10:58:17] <Althego> safer is gaseous
nitrogen too
L171[10:58:20] <Althego> eh not here
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L173[11:00:04] <umaxtu> I haven't been
following too closely are their any big updates regarding the
science mode?
L174[11:00:04] <packbart> it's when it's
crammed into a solid that nitrogen gets twitchy
L175[11:00:59] <sandbox> I thought the
entire time that KSP1 dev streams needed better PR, even before the
"I was just thinking out loud" dlc debacle
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L177[11:02:59] <Eddi|zuHause> i would call
it "twitchy" when nitrogen is crammed into other
substances :p
L178[11:03:00] <packbart> *shrugs* over at
the Elite forums, people keep dragging out The Lord's
"thinking out loud" videos from the Kickstarter
Aera
L179[11:04:25] <FLHerne> umaxtu: no
L180[11:04:44] <umaxtu> bummer
L181[11:05:16] <packbart> ah, new dev
diaries go to the forum now
L184[11:12:10] <umaxtu> thank you
L185[11:21:59] <Eddi|zuHause> somehow
every time i try to fix my plane, it gets worse
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L187[11:26:12] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know
what i'm doing wrong
L188[11:27:13] <packbart> show a picture
(that might work better on the forums). or scrap the design and
begin from scratch :)
L189[11:27:41] <packbart> or just add
"landing boosters"
L190[11:28:11] <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't
even get to the "landing" part
L191[11:28:34] <Eddi|zuHause> it just
tumbles over uncontrollably after a few minutes of flight
L192[11:28:58] <packbart> rolling or
flipping?
L193[11:29:09] <FLHerne> that sounds like
CoG shifting backward as the fuel tanks empty
L194[11:29:14] <packbart> not enough
elevator lift, maybe
L195[11:29:56] <packbart> hm. is
"elevator" the right word? looks shifty
L196[11:30:01] <packbart> anyway
L197[11:30:17] <FLHerne> when you're
checking centre of mass vs centre of lift, do it with tanks both
full and empty (and ideally in the middle)
L198[11:30:47] <FLHerne> it tends to shift
backward because the engines are heavy and at the back
L199[11:31:31] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i move
the wings a bit backwards, maybe that helps
L200[11:32:18] <FLHerne> centre of mass
has to be a bit in front of centre of lift in all fuel states,
otherwise it goes uncontrollably flippy
L201[11:36:14] <FLHerne> .outcome add You
are told the solution, but refuse to accept it, instead stubbornly
trying all sorts of other stupid ideas.
L202[11:36:14] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
You are told the solution, but refuse to accept it, instead
stubbornly trying all sorts of other stupid ideas.
L203[11:36:57] <XXCoder> lol
L204[11:37:00] <XXCoder> ;mission
L205[11:37:00] <LunchBot> You explore the
latest fashions in designer genes. Your boosters overheat due to
exploding.
L206[11:37:14] <XXCoder> doh! too
distracted to design properly
L207[11:41:27] <packbart> that's what
happens when you swap Gene Kerman from Mission Control with an
unlicensed designer Gene
L208[11:41:46] <XXCoder> thats
right.
L209[11:42:51] <Althego> remember how
skylon solved the same problem. moved the engines to the
wingtips
L210[11:44:22] <packbart> well, one of the
"all sorts of other stupid ideas" I thought of was using
detachable engines. put parachutes on each one and stick them on
decouplers, then drop them before the CoM creeps back too far
L212[11:49:26] <packbart> (or is that a
moon?)
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L218[12:07:03] <sandbox> !mission
L219[12:07:03] <LunchBot> You spend hours
trying to think of a single KSP feat that hasn't already been done.
Even the Kraken is on fire.
L220[12:07:53] <Althego> could have gone
better. must have been thinking really hard
L221[12:08:12] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L222[12:08:12] <LunchBot> Your instruments
blow up on the pad. Grung-obsessed Kerbals sweep the area, leaving
only destruction in their wake.
L223[12:08:47] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome add
yOU ENABLED FINE CONTROL:
L224[12:08:47] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
yOU ENABLED FINE CONTROL:
L225[12:08:56] <Althego> hehehe
L226[12:09:07] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: I
hate it. Thanks
L227[12:09:09] <Mat2ch> :D
L228[12:09:10] <packbart> "Grung ...
poisonous frog-like amphibious humanoids that lived in swamp or
marsh[2] forests" - I see
L229[12:10:58] <packbart> or maybe the
architect? some of these missions need tooltip texts ;)
L230[12:11:12] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: You
didn't comment on my ant rocket.
L231[12:11:25] <Eddi|zuHause> i've seen
it.
L232[12:11:45] <Eddi|zuHause> my ant is in
orbit.
L233[12:12:11] <Eddi|zuHause> and i got a
mun encounter which gives me an escape trajectory for testing the
part
L234[12:12:12] <darsie> ok
L235[12:12:29] <darsie> The ant
part?
L236[12:12:34] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L237[12:12:57] <darsie> Escape from the
Mun?
L238[12:13:04] <Eddi|zuHause> no, escape
from kerbin
L239[12:13:28] <darsie> The Mun helps a
bit, but is usually not worth the hassle.
L240[12:14:45] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe, but i
also have a mission to fly by the mun
L241[12:14:50] <Eddi|zuHause> also, it's
not that hard
L242[12:16:00] <Eddi|zuHause> but now i'm
trying to do these plane missions before the mun encounter
L243[12:17:23] <Eddi|zuHause> and i'm
fiddling with this plane autopilot, which has a tendency to
overcorrect
L244[12:17:24] <packbart> Parallel
missions are the path to madness!
L245[12:17:40] <Althego> yes
L246[12:17:49] <Althego> but that is how
you do it for efficiency
L247[12:18:15] <Althego> when i have
several returning missions and need to be in focus for
capture
L248[12:18:19] <Althego> it gets a bit
hairy
L249[12:18:30] <Eddi|zuHause> problem with
plane missions is you can't interrupt them
L250[12:18:40] <Althego> because obviously
between long breaks everything needs to happen at once
L251[12:18:42] <packbart> but you rarely
see all the planets before starting a new game ;)
L252[12:19:43] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe that's
why i've never been to another planet :p
L253[12:20:03] <Althego> at least try to
go to duna
L254[12:20:09] <Althego> it is a totally
differentexperience
L255[12:21:26] <darsie> Duna is
aerobraking heaven.
L256[12:22:21] <darsie> Unlike Kerbin,
Eve, Earth or Mars.
L257[12:23:11] <darsie> .outcome You
aerobreak at Eve.
L258[12:23:11] <LunchBot> No outcome found
matching "You aerobreak at Eve.".
L259[12:23:16] <darsie> .outcome add You
aerobreak at Eve.
L260[12:23:16] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
You aerobreak at Eve.
L261[12:23:32] <Eddi|zuHause> shouldn't
that be a mission? :p
L262[12:23:37] <darsie> no
L263[12:23:49] <darsie> Read carefully
;)
L264[12:24:04] <Eddi|zuHause>
well...
L265[12:24:40] <Althego> aerobake or
aerobreak? :)
L266[12:25:01] <Althego> yes on eve you
can easily explode
L267[12:25:55] <packbart> !mission add All
your maneuver alarms go off at the same time. Choose wisely.
L268[12:25:56] <LunchBot> Added mission:
All your maneuver alarms go off at the same time. Choose
wisely.
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L270[12:28:06] <packbart> !mission add You
fumble for the snooze button on the maneuver alarm clock.
L271[12:28:06] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You fumble for the snooze button on the maneuver alarm clock.
L272[12:28:39] <packbart> !mission
L273[12:28:39] <LunchBot> You invent and
deploy a virally-distributed antihypoxiant that will make Kerbals
almost impossible to kill. The energy release catalyzes a vacuum
metastability event.
L274[12:29:20] <packbart> so, uh,
"impossible to kill" because there's nobody around to
kill them?
L275[12:34:39] <Eddi|zuHause> it's
probably fine... i got 15 minutes to my target on the plane
mission, and 1:22h on the alarm clock for mun encounter
L276[12:36:30] <Eddi|zuHause> and then i
figure out how to land :p
L277[12:37:14] <Althego> the irony. by
making them unkillable you destroyed the univers
L278[12:37:16] <Althego> e
L279[12:38:37] <Althego> sometimes i am
afraid of the false vacuum decay. but it would destroy all matter
as we know it with the speed of light, so we wouldnt even know it
happened
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L281[12:42:17] <Eddi|zuHause> in all
likelyhood i won't land... try 15 times, and then just exit and use
the chute
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L283[13:26:41] <Eddi|zuHause> there's
nothing here that looks flat enough to land on
L284[13:31:30] <packbart> !outcome add
That is not drag which can eternal fly. And with strange epochs,
even the Kraken may die.
L285[13:31:30] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
That is not drag which can eternal fly. And with strange epochs,
even the Kraken may die.
L286[13:33:49] <FLHerne> I think "has
not" would read better?
L287[13:34:05] <FLHerne> also "the
Kraken" doesn't scan :p
L289[13:38:23] <darsie> <fenn> space
habitat builder game
L290[13:40:43] <raptop> lsat update:
version 0.27 (May 12, 2017)
L291[13:40:47] *
raptop concern
L292[13:45:02] <packbart> !outcome fixup
s/is not drag/has not drag/
L293[13:45:02] <LunchBot> New text is:
That has not drag which can eternal fly. And with strange epochs,
even the Kraken may die.
L294[13:45:50] <packbart> and yeah, not
sure about the Kraken or if it's not a too obscure outcome overall.
fix what you think fits best ;)
L295[13:46:46] <Eddi|zuHause> landing
going as well as expected
L297[13:49:13] <raptop> yum yum!
L298[13:50:31] <Eddi|zuHause> i hate the
early planes... even the slightest touch makes them explode
L299[13:56:44] <Eddi|zuHause> watering
also not happening
L300[14:02:23] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, jeb.
time to jump...
L301[14:03:07] <raptop> Huh, restock+
really does just feel like "yeah, a bunch of stock parts were
missing"
L302[14:03:29] <sandbox> !mission
L303[14:03:29] <LunchBot> You collude with
Elves. kmath was unable to find "Outcome 459"
L304[14:04:37] <raptop> What did the elves
get up to now?
L305[14:04:58] <Eddi|zuHause> never
anything good
L306[14:05:48] <sandbox> are they
cannibalistic in this universe?
L307[14:06:17] <Eddi|zuHause> i managed to
crash land the chute... :p
L308[14:06:39] <raptop> Wait, this is a
universe with spaceflight... Did they reify Slaanesh?
L309[14:07:54] <Mat2ch> "High
Frontier is no longer for sale."
L310[14:17:07] <Eddi|zuHause> apparently
recovering a kerbal doesn't recover its science data?
L311[14:20:14] <raptop> Bug in current KSP
with kerbals dropping any science that they're holding, I think
there are community patches for it
L312[14:20:53] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it
wasn't that important
L314[14:32:00] <Mat2ch> uhhhm. I want to
believe?
L315[14:32:37] <Mat2ch> and Leslie Kean
and Ralph Blumenthal aren't just some nutjobs...
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argue that crews in space require less sleep because of the
"Reverse Martini Effect".
L319[14:46:32] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You argue that crews in space require less sleep because of the
"Reverse Martini Effect".
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L326[15:16:57] <Eddi|zuHause> there's not
even real day and night in space, it's all imagined :p
L328[15:23:01] <Althego> CRS-28
Mission
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L330[15:45:06] <Althego> 2 minutes
L331[15:54:40] <Mat2ch> oh, short nozzle
again
L332[15:54:42] <Mat2ch> looks odd
L333[15:56:49] <Mat2ch> landing is still
incredible.
L334[15:57:04] <Mat2ch> But didn't they
usually land on land for CRS missions?
L335[15:57:24] <Althego> i am not
sure
L336[15:57:33] <Althego> maybe depends on
the payload mass
L337[15:57:47] <Althego> or they could
have used the booster fuel to compensate for the short nozzle
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L340[16:22:15] <Eddi|zuHause> you know
what i really hate? that you can't go on EVA from the first crew
cabin
L341[16:23:48] <Althego> do you mean that
you need to wait until you get the upgrade for it?
L342[16:23:51] <Althego> yes somewhat
annoying
L343[16:24:20] <Althego> what i dont like
i cant do all the measurements in the first launch. because i cant
cram enough science juniors on it
L344[16:24:31] <Althego> so i need to have
two launches
L345[16:24:37] <Althego> just because
there is no eva
L346[16:25:00] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, which
is why you need the crew cabin to put a scientist on, that can
reuse one science junior
L347[16:25:13] <Eddi|zuHause> but the
scientist can't get out of the crew cabin
L348[16:26:32] <raptop> IIRC, you can do
some silly crew swap thing with internal transfers?
L349[16:26:38] <Mat2ch> I usually made
smaller contracts to make the money to upgrade
L350[16:26:46] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L351[16:26:58] <Eddi|zuHause> but that is
silly, and even more silly, if all seats are full
L352[16:27:20] <Mat2ch> The whole
restrictions are silly.
L353[16:27:28] <Mat2ch> Even the science
tree is somewhat weird :D
L354[16:28:21] <Althego> wheels are pretty
late
L355[16:28:24] <Althego> way after
rockets
L356[16:28:36] <Althego> meanwhile the vab
is full of cars rolling around
L357[16:28:52] <Althego> ah bat those are
special space wheels, you cant compare them to normal wheels
L358[16:36:14] <raptop> Admittedly,
there's a decent chance that you'll discover ladders *after* you've
landed on Minmus (or the Mun if you roll that way)
L359[16:48:18] <Eddi|zuHause> is it too
early to try a mun landing?
L360[16:49:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i've got
this contract to test landing gear on descend to the mun (or maybe
ascend... :p)
L361[16:52:43] <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i
missed the "low" space on my mun flyby
L362[17:00:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i should
probably make a relay satellite
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L364[17:20:49] <Eddi|zuHause> well, that's
almost a polar orbit
L365[17:38:17] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: You
can do a Mun landing whenever you're capable of it. It's harder
than Minmus, so if you like that challenge, go for it.
L366[17:38:50] <darsie> Use the delta v
map and watch your TWR.
L367[17:39:12] <darsie> Do you have
maneuver planning?
L368[17:39:37] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L369[17:40:29] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm doing a
plane mission again... i never learn...
L370[17:41:25] <darsie> It's possible to
jetpack from the Mun to orbit, but you have to fly very
efficiently.
L371[17:44:39] <darsie> Do you know what
efficient means here?
L372[17:44:56] <Eddi|zuHause> Jump up and
go horizontal?
L373[17:45:23] <Eddi|zuHause> i think i've
actually done that before
L374[17:45:25] <darsie> yeah. As
horizontal as possible.
L375[17:45:28] <darsie> cool
L376[17:45:46] <Mat2ch> From a crater or
from a mountain? ;)
L377[17:46:07] <Eddi|zuHause> don't
remember
L378[17:46:34] <darsie> If you have to fly
over an obstacle it may be impossible. if you're in a crater you
could go up a crater wall and fly the other way if you can't walk
to the top.
L379[17:47:39] <darsie> I think superman
attitude is a must.
L380[17:47:50] <Althego> hehe
L381[17:47:52] <darsie> :)
L382[17:48:04] <Althego> can you make the
kerbal hold out one arm?
L383[17:48:11] <Althego> we need a mod for
that
L384[17:48:15] <darsie> Maybe with
mods.
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L548[18:24:33] <funkenstein> it had to be
done
L549[18:29:44] <Mat2ch> lol
L550[18:31:16] <raptop> Definitely a
kerbal that's been stranded in kerbol orbit for a few decades
L551[18:32:34] <Eddi|zuHause> you ever sit
in front of the tech tree unable to decide which tech to
research?
L552[18:33:14] <raptop> sometimes
L553[18:34:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i think i've
narrowed it down to either lander can or skipper engine/kickback
booster
L554[18:36:54] <funkenstein> always
L555[18:37:15] <funkenstein> at either the
very beginning or the middle-end of the tree
L556[18:37:18] <raptop> Do you already
have size 2 tanks?
L557[18:37:42] <raptop> If so, skipper, if
not, either the can or nothing
L558[18:37:43] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, the
smaller ones
L560[18:37:54] <funkenstein> go for the
skipper
L561[18:38:15] <funkenstein> autostrut
will hold your hand til you get the next unlock
L562[18:38:27] <raptop> The skipper is
actually really great in terms of TWR and Isp vs the Swivel and
Reliant
L564[18:39:26] <Eddi|zuHause> right, now
thinking whether to do a mun flyby or landing
L565[18:39:43] <funkenstein> dual-fuselage
landing
L566[18:40:09] <funkenstein> not separate
rockets, just two tanks side by side
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L569[19:14:54] <Eddi|zuHause> that can't
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L574[19:31:27] <sandbox> !mission
L575[19:31:27] <LunchBot> You build an
actual life-sized Schuler pendulum. All hail probe!
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L577[19:34:02] <raptop> !mission add You
hire florks to assist in designing your orbiters and landers.
L578[19:34:02] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You hire florks to assist in designing your orbiters and
landers.
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L582[19:41:24] <Eddi|zuHause> argh... i
got the "rocket tips over halfway through" problem
again...
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L586[19:50:26] <raptop> (This I guess
means that the TPS vs ERA jokes can also work as outcomes)
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L590[20:54:51] <Eddi|zuHause> is a 16km
mun encounter too close?
L591[20:55:07] <darsie> Won't crash.
L592[20:55:36] <darsie> But trajectories
might change when switching sphere of influence at high
speed.
L593[20:55:51] <darsie> high time
warp*
L594[20:56:05] <darsie> 7 km is pretty
safe
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L596[20:56:39] <darsie> KER can tell you
if your trajectory crashes.
L597[20:57:27] <darsie> KER can tell you
if you're on a crash course.
L598[20:57:47] <XXCoder> ;mission
L599[20:57:47] <LunchBot> You try to store
iced tea in a Rockomax Jumbo-64 for a VAB party. You suddenly crave
doritos, though you cannot decide on a dip.
L600[20:58:07] <XXCoder> hmm party averted
I guess
L601[20:58:13] <XXCoder> tea party
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L603[21:04:06] <raptop> !mission
L604[21:04:06] <LunchBot> You give your
spaceplane a bad attitude. The floating point errors result in
floating kerbals.
L605[21:04:37] <raptop> ...How did my
attitude get into a regime where it had meaningful floating point
errors?
L606[21:04:54] <Eddi|zuHause> attitude is
everything
L607[21:04:57] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L608[21:04:58] <LunchBot> You see a sign
"Do NOT pull lever" with a lever below it. You quit after
30 seconds.
L609[21:05:32] <Eddi|zuHause> but... did i
quit the pulling, or the NOT pulling?
L610[21:08:49] <Mat2ch> !outcome
book
L611[21:08:49] <LunchBot> No outcome found
matching "book".
L612[21:09:18] <Mat2ch> !outcome add
Several books will be written about you.
L613[21:09:18] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Several books will be written about you.
L614[21:09:41] <Eddi|zuHause> but will it
be a trilogy, or just a bunch of sequels?
L615[21:11:23] <Mat2ch> It will be a
trilogy followed by a buch of sequels.
L616[21:11:34] <Mat2ch> Every sequel get's
wrose.
L617[21:11:36] <Mat2ch> *worse
L618[21:11:44] <Eddi|zuHause> *gets
L619[21:12:30] <raptop> As these things
go
L620[21:12:41] <Mat2ch> gets, right.
L621[21:14:18] <darsie> Pulling the lever
might crush someone under a car.
L622[21:14:58] <Mat2ch> !mission button
press
L623[21:14:58] <LunchBot> No mission found
matching "button press".
L624[21:15:02] <Mat2ch> !mission
button
L625[21:15:02] <LunchBot> You see a sign
"Push button for cookie" with a red button below
it.
L626[21:15:13] <Mat2ch> !mission add You
do not push the button.
L627[21:15:13] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You do not push the button.
L628[21:15:36] <raptop> I guess that
leaves more delicious delicacies for the rest of us
L629[21:16:19] <darsie> .mission add You
try to hit space.
L630[21:16:20] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You try to hit space.
L631[21:17:34] <Mat2ch> Oh, that's
good
L632[21:18:41] <darsie> :)
L633[21:18:57] <raptop> pun
intended?
L634[21:19:16] <darsie> of course :)
L635[21:21:09] <raptop> good
L636[21:22:35] <Mat2ch> !mission
L637[21:22:35] <LunchBot> You put a rover
in a fairing on a rocket in a fairing on a rocket on a rover. As
long as he doesn't do anything reckless or stupid, Jeb will be just
fine.
L638[21:22:58] <Mat2ch> He will do
something reckless and stupid.
L639[21:23:18] <raptop> Guess we're going
to find out if that was an OR or an XOR
L640[21:25:45] <sandbox> !mission
L641[21:25:45] <LunchBot> You switch the
safeties off for an experiment. The Konstructor convinces you to
make extensive use of Rockomax Mk 55 engines.
L642[21:31:03] <Mat2ch> !mission
L643[21:31:04] <LunchBot> You head to the
Mun for a round of golf. Jebediah Kerman, Astronaut has gone stark
raving mad! [...] Jebediah Kerman, Astronaut, has burned up in
magma.
L644[21:31:16] <FLHerne> I *really* hope
the pun was intended when the KSP devs used spacebar for
launch
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L646[21:31:24] <FLHerne> it must surely
have been
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L648[21:31:53] <FLHerne> isn't the Moon
notoriously lacking in magma?
L649[21:31:58] <Mat2ch> it is...
L650[21:32:19] <FLHerne> I wonder how Jeb
managed that then
L651[21:32:26] <Mat2ch> So he got so mad,
he became the magma!
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L653[21:32:51] <FLHerne> would molten rock
from a large meteor impact be lava or magma?
L654[21:32:55] <FLHerne> probably
lava
L655[21:33:17] <Mat2ch> well, it's funny
how we became a !mission channel :D
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L657[21:38:01] <FLHerne> KSP is sort of a
solved problem at this point for the most part
L658[21:38:28] <FLHerne> quite a few of
the !outcomes foresaw this day
L659[21:40:22] <Mat2ch> hehe
L660[21:42:51] <raptop> Maybe jeb delved
too greedy and too deep? (It might be hot enough near the core.
Balls of rock that are thousands of miles across take a while to
cool off entirely)
L661[21:43:52] <Eddi|zuHause> so, i have
1300m/s dv for landing on the mun from orbit, and 1300 for takeoff
and return... that should allow for some inefficiency?
L662[21:46:57] <raptop> For munar orbit
-> surface -> munar orbit, yeah. I'm pretty sure that you
have 0 or modestly negative margins on landing then getting to
Kerbin
L663[21:49:22] <raptop> Yeah, 0 margin for
a direct ascent, decent margins for munar orbit rendezvous
L664[21:49:33] *
raptop checked the /topic'd maps
L665[21:51:05] <Eddi|zuHause> why? the map
says 580 for takeoff to orbit, and 310 for leaving SoI... the rest
should be marginal
L666[21:52:44] <Eddi|zuHause> and my game
crashed...
L667[21:53:47] <raptop> well, also 580 to
land
L668[21:54:04] <raptop> oh, you have 2600
m/s total?
L669[21:54:07] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L670[21:54:10] <Eddi|zuHause> twice
1300
L671[21:54:11] <raptop> apparently I can't
math today.
L672[21:54:13] <FLHerne> yeah, if you're
aerobraking I think it ought to work fine
L673[21:54:39] <Eddi|zuHause> i could try
some biome hopping
L674[21:55:48] <raptop> Yeah, though that
can get expensive quickly
L675[22:02:14] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: (On
Minmus) I used to scout with a Kerbal/jetpack where 2-3 biomes meet
so I could then get there with smaller hops.
L676[22:03:05] <darsie> 1300 m/s for
getting to Mun orbit is excessive.
L677[22:03:41] <darsie> It's also plenty
for landing, which tends to be less optimal.
L678[22:19:55] <Eddi|zuHause> on all my
previous mun missions, i usually spent too much on landing
L679[22:22:26] <darsie> If you have
kerbnet you can scout for biome borders to land at.
L680[22:24:43] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't, but
near a canyon or crater wall is probably fine
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L685[22:42:46] <Eddi|zuHause> i should
probably decide on a landing site before running out of
snacks...
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L688[23:05:29] <Izzy> just need to
computerise landing so it's exactly as optimal as your code
L689[23:07:05] <raptop> I guess this gets
into how fancy you want the code to be
L690[23:08:38] <Izzy> on a completely
unrelated note I spun up a KSRSS instance and my RCS thrusters
don't work. any of them, it seems.
L691[23:08:45] <Izzy> any ideas what might
be causing that?
L692[23:09:42] <raptop> I'd guess
something related to recent mod updates, but I run too close to
stock to be familiar with the error messages
L693[23:15:02] <packbart> did you load the
correct type of propellant?
L694[23:15:13] <packbart> istr that KSRSS
implies RealFuels
L695[23:15:27] <Izzy> I'll double check
but I think so
L696[23:15:36] <Izzy> I didn't install
RealFuels
L697[23:17:50] <packbart> hm. then I
probably did that in my install for the luls. I haven't started it
in a while
L698[23:20:59] <packbart> just checked, my
Aerozine RCS thrusters work in my KSRSS install
L699[23:22:06] <Izzy> huh, might be a fuel
flow problem or something? ???
L700[23:24:49] <Izzy> or maybe a control
issue?
L701[23:25:19] <Izzy> okay I have no idea
why it wasn't working now
L702[23:25:21] <Izzy> it works
L704[23:27:09] <packbart> I might remove
RealFuels as well. I don't even know what most of these fuels are
or why to use the over others
L705[23:27:37] <Izzy> cryotanks/engines
and near future add enough variety for me
L706[23:28:06] <Izzy> end up with kerolox,
monoprop, LH2/LOX and LCH4/LOX, plus some ... unusual things later
in the tech tree
L707[23:28:42] <Izzy> oh wait.
L708[23:28:56] <Izzy> I was using my
modified LF/OX RCS thrusters.
L709[23:29:04] <Izzy> but only had
monoprop.
L710[23:29:08] <Izzy> that's why it wasn't
working
L711[23:29:13] <raptop> packbart: Just use
water full of uranium salts!
L712[23:29:19] <raptop> >.>
L713[23:29:21] <raptop> <.<
L714[23:29:34] <packbart> yes, Hydrolox,
Methalox I can deal with. I guess RealFuels is more for realistic
replicas, so you need the options of MON1, MON3, MON10, MON15,
etc.
L715[23:29:57] <raptop> oh, all those
weird hypergol variants
L716[23:30:03] <packbart> LqdFlourine
sounds like fun
L717[23:30:30] <packbart> that's probably
for some converter chains, I guess?
L718[23:33:47] <raptop> Hrm, nominally you
should be able to run that with liquid hydrogen (is there a mixed
lox / fluorine oxidizer option?)
L719[23:38:24] <packbart> I haven't seen
an engine configuration that would use it, yet
L720[23:42:51] <Eddi|zuHause> yay, i hit a
crater wall at 300m/s
L721[23:45:57] <raptop> Now the entire
crew is mystery goo!
L722[23:49:45] <raptop> Anyway, making
many simplifying assumptions: if you kill your horizontal velocity
at y meters altitude, you should ignight your engines for a suicide
burn at y/TWR meters
L723[23:49:55] <raptop> I haven't tried
this out yet
L724[23:53:18] <Eddi|zuHause> .... and i
tipped over
L725[23:54:30] <raptop> I want to say that
the stock leg settings are insufficiently stiff