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L7[00:16:58] <raptop> ow
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L37[08:49:33] <Althego> "Weather conditions are ~15% favorable for today’s Falcon 9 launch of 22 @Starlink satellites to orbit. Now targeting 8:20 a.m. ET for liftoff"
L38[08:49:39] <Althego> probably not launching
L39[09:07:49] <Mat2ch> But I will be lunching!
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L42[09:18:41] <Mat2ch> !mission
L43[09:18:42] <LunchBot> You attempt to orbit below the photon sphere. Ted explodes, emitting all kinds of Tedly radiation.
L44[09:19:20] <XXCoder> probably moved in insane ways
L45[09:19:23] <XXCoder> ;mission
L46[09:19:23] <LunchBot> You decide to add some mods. The quadratic formula explodes!
L47[09:19:30] <XXCoder> bad mod
L48[09:20:08] <Mat2ch> Or too many!
L49[09:20:20] <XXCoder> yeah
L50[09:42:57] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L51[09:42:57] <LunchBot> You fly unsafe. The kerbonauts don't have enough fuel to come back so you send a Kerbal X to rescue them.
L52[09:43:22] <XXCoder> I guess you broke plane but didnt kill em in least
L53[09:43:43] <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like every mission i ever did...
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L59[12:21:56] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy68lCXLsGc
L60[12:21:59] <Althego> it did launch
L61[12:23:04] <Althego> but the sheep was singing and i didnt listen
L62[12:28:36] <Althego> landed
L63[12:38:18] <Mat2ch> SpaceX launches are becoming more reliable than the German Bahn...
L64[12:43:09] <Eddi|zuHause> call again when they're at swiss or japanese levels :p
L65[12:44:01] <Eddi|zuHause> hm... this was probably the weirdest way i achieved orbit so far...
L66[12:45:35] <Eddi|zuHause> my 3rd stage apparently didn't have enough ooomph, so after reaching 70k AP i dropped down again to 50k PE...
L67[12:46:37] <darsie> Sometimes odd solutions are the best.
L68[12:46:59] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: You should look at Ariane 5 launch profiles
L69[12:47:12] <Mat2ch> they do exactly this, but in thinner atmosphere ;)
L70[12:47:29] <darsie> Like using a solid booster for circularization but using wasteful attitude because the booster has too much delta v.
L71[12:48:19] <Eddi|zuHause> what's high space again? 250km?
L72[12:49:36] <Althego> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Science#Celestial_body_multipliers
L73[12:49:39] <Althego> see border
L74[12:50:09] <darsie> Didn't see it in https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Kerbin
L75[12:50:23] <Mat2ch> so 105 km?
L76[12:50:32] <Althego> 250 for kerbin
L77[12:50:44] <darsie> ASL
L78[12:51:18] <Eddi|zuHause> "5 h 59 m 60 s" <- what?
L79[12:51:36] <darsie> 6h?
L80[12:51:48] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but why write it this way?
L81[12:51:51] <Althego> hehe
L82[12:51:56] <Mat2ch> Maybe someone making a joke
L83[12:51:58] <Althego> incorrect display
L84[12:52:07] <darsie> Rounding up?
L85[12:52:11] <Althego> maybe coupled with rounding
L86[12:52:12] <Eddi|zuHause> weird rounding
L87[12:52:18] <Althego> it didnt propagate the valuse correctly
L88[12:52:47] <darsie> Where is that from?
L89[12:53:23] <Eddi|zuHause> that page you linked
L90[12:53:43] <darsie> mhm
L91[12:53:58] <darsie> programming error?
L92[12:54:03] <darsie> automatic conversion?
L93[12:54:24] <Althego> must be leap second :)
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L103[13:40:32] <packbart> darsie: it is. but despair at wiki expression syntax :) https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?title=Template:ExpandTime&action=edit
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L115[14:48:13] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, trying to circularize with an ant, probably not the best idea
L116[14:52:58] <Mat2ch> Make some coffee
L117[14:53:25] <Althego> i like the ant for tiny satellites
L118[14:53:45] <Eddi|zuHause> probably not tiny enough
L119[14:54:09] <Althego> then step up to spark
L120[14:55:12] <Eddi|zuHause> but i have a mission to test the ant
L121[14:56:26] <Althego> take it as payload
L122[15:03:52] <Althego> eh the more interesting launch with the cargo dragon is delayed until tomorrow
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L124[15:12:16] <packbart> a step up from the ant would be three radial spiders
L125[15:12:30] <darsie> Ants are ok to orbit :).
L126[15:12:49] <Eddi|zuHause> i just put less fuel on the ant stage and more fuel on the launch stage
L127[15:13:04] <darsie> with a hammer as first stage, IIRC.
L128[15:13:31] <Eddi|zuHause> i only have low tech, using a swivel
L129[15:14:01] <darsie> Well, swivel can go SSTO, so adding an ant stage should be no problem.
L130[15:14:48] <darsie> Ant is higher in the tech tree than hammer, IIRC.
L131[15:15:38] <darsie> no other payload, just the ant?
L132[15:19:45] <darsie> Hammer+ant: http://0x0.st/HbYw.png
L133[15:20:21] <darsie> okto2+RW is just 90 kg, but I guess an okto with 100 kg would work, too.
L134[15:20:57] <darsie> Ant stage is inverted to fit in a smaller fairing.
L135[15:21:57] <darsie> Looks like 5 deg tilt to east.
L136[15:22:19] <sandbox> !mission
L137[15:22:19] <LunchBot> You question the wisdom of retrograde Bop. Esper has a netsplit.
L138[15:23:09] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: Hammer is in the same node as swivel.
L139[15:23:33] <darsie> Basic rocketry
L140[15:24:05] <darsie> ant is three levels higher
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L143[16:00:13] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: 5 deg tilt (with EER); switch SAS to prograde at 40 m/s; stage 1m10s before Ap. https://0x0.st/HbYD.png https://0x0.st/HbY0.png
L144[16:00:58] <darsie> Ahh, and help out the SAS a little when drag tries to push over the rocket.
L145[16:01:54] <darsie> That's a lower tech version of my previous rocket.
L146[16:02:48] <darsie> if you don't have a HECS you have to keep prograde yourself.
L147[16:04:08] <darsie> Oh, and configure the Hammer to 2.01 TWR(vacuum)
L148[16:04:34] <darsie> That's at 35.5%.
L149[16:06:01] <darsie> I added thermometer, barometer and antenna just because I can ;).
L150[16:06:43] <darsie> Might work without battery, too.
L151[16:46:08] <sandbox> !mission
L152[16:46:09] <LunchBot> You try to find a way to affect spacetime and open wormholes. You land bottom-first onto PrefixCactus.
L153[17:14:18] <Eddi|zuHause> why does my science jr. never survive reentry, despite being behind a heat shield?
L154[17:14:36] <darsie> I guess the heat shield transmits too much heat.
L155[17:15:05] <raptop> Something like that, they're fragile.
L156[17:15:21] <raptop> Fortunately, you can move data to pods and those science containers
L157[17:16:04] <Althego> you can out it behind a bigger shield
L158[17:16:06] <darsie> I think moving to pod requires an EVA.
L159[17:16:20] <Althego> they are expensive it would be better to reclaim them
L160[17:16:40] <darsie> Normal mode provides enough money.
L161[17:16:44] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i did that, so it's not a huge loss
L162[17:16:55] <Althego> i think of the heating as a bug because you can see that for the tiniest movement, misalignment its heat goes up instantly and goes down instantly
L163[17:17:26] <Althego> which shouldnt be possible for anything real, because there is some mass there that hasto heat up
L164[17:17:31] <Eddi|zuHause> ... and i forgot to run the experiment while splashed down...
L165[17:17:37] <Althego> hehe
L166[17:17:41] <raptop> Eva or an action group
L167[17:18:07] <raptop> Er, EVA. Do not give your kerbals Evas
L168[17:18:22] <Althego> hehe
L169[17:19:27] <Eddi|zuHause> moving to pod requires EVA, moving to science box does not (but restoring to run again does)
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L172[17:30:27] <Eddi|zuHause> kinda hard to get a mun flyby without tracking station upgrade
L173[17:30:38] <Althego> no, actually relatively easy
L174[17:30:51] <Althego> in fact i make it a point to do it before is make the upgrade
L175[17:31:47] <raptop> Transfer burn at or just before Munrise from LKO, aim for a 14 Mm periapsis. It'll likely be somewhat distant, but *will* be a free return
L176[17:39:35] <Eddi|zuHause> dunno if that is right...
L177[17:43:08] <raptop> I mean, that was the pre-maneuver node method
L178[17:43:14] <raptop> And last I checked it still worked
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L183[18:37:34] <Eddi|zuHause> it seems that actually worked
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L188[20:34:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i still fall back into the same pattern of trying terrible planes...
L189[21:08:48] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L190[21:08:48] <LunchBot> You construct a solar death ray. Laythe freezes over.
L191[21:09:06] <Eddi|zuHause> i said DEATH ray, not FREEZE ray...
L192[21:09:24] <sandbox> maybe that was the power source
L193[21:09:53] <sandbox> !mission
L194[21:09:53] <LunchBot> You take a lump of heavy metal and squeeze it together. Surprisingly, this suggests a workable solution to the issue of subtractive resource costs.
L195[21:20:05] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: pics or never happend!
L196[21:48:37] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome add You didn't check your staging.
L197[21:48:37] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You didn't check your staging.
L198[21:49:52] <darsie> Staging, electric, comm, crew, engineer
L199[21:52:38] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know if i use some wrong mod, but crew is ALWAYS wrong as soon as i change one part
L200[22:05:11] <Eddi|zuHause> i should stop accepting silly contracts like "reach 41-49km with a speed of 60-240m/s and activate this part"
L201[22:11:43] <XXCoder> wow part name being so vague I'd be assuming its actually bomb to decredit us lol
L202[22:12:24] <XXCoder> Eddi|zuHause: your build actually took so long that laythe freezes over lol
L203[22:12:49] <Eddi|zuHause> that could be true, given my history :p
L204[22:12:54] <XXCoder> theres probably 10 or 20 "staging" errors in outcomes lol
L205[22:13:44] <Eddi|zuHause> well, staging IS important
L206[22:13:59] <XXCoder> yep
L207[22:14:11] <XXCoder> ;outcome staging
L208[22:14:11] <LunchBot> How many times did you fix staging again?
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L213[22:55:21] <FLHerne> .outcome add There's an inexplicable rhythmic hissing noise.
L214[22:55:21] <LunchBot> Added outcome: There's an inexplicable rhythmic hissing noise.
L215[22:55:46] <FLHerne> (there really is, and I'm stumped by it)
L216[22:58:07] <FLHerne> it doesn't appear to be the fridge, an LPG leak, an electrical short, the wind rustling my metal blinds, the fermenting scraps in an empty jar in the bin, plants rubbing on the hull or something a bird is doing
L217[23:06:48] <XXCoder> weird
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