OCLogs: 2023-02-17.log

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L7[01:37:31] <FLHerne> H-3 launch https://spaceflightnow.com/2023/02/16/h3-test-flight-1-preview/

L8[01:39:43] <FLHerne> scrubbed, it looks

L9[01:40:04] <raptop> The main engines did ignite, so I'm guessing they didn't like the thrust?

L10[01:40:43] <raptop> ...oh, an SRB failure that *doesn't* destroy the vehicle

L11[01:41:31] <umaxtu> unless that's just a translation issue

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L57[12:12:02] <FLHerne> ;outcome add It's extremely complex and high risk.

L58[12:12:03] <LunchBot> Added outcome: It's extremely complex and high risk.

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L71[14:04:05] <Althego> kikkerikii at reine

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L73[14:06:14] <Discepto> G'day!

L74[14:06:28] <Althego> hi

L75[14:08:43] <Mat2ch> Is upsidedown morning already? :D

L76[14:10:04] <Althego> i think new zealand is 12 hours ahead of cet, so even that cant be morning

L77[14:10:29] <Althego> but it is sufficiently morning in at least some parts of the usa

L78[14:10:40] <Discepto> Haha, yeah, 0110 here Victoria. Was a sweltering day yesty. Logged into the forum for the first time in eons.. hovered over "More" and saw IRC. I knew there'd be folks on here. XD

L79[14:11:13] <Althego> not many

L80[14:11:46] <Mat2ch> But more than you might think

L81[14:11:58] <Discepto> True, but IRC is just one of those things that always lives on somehow.

L82[14:12:30] <Mat2ch> We will outlive everything else.

L83[14:12:56] <Mat2ch> When Whatsapp, Telegram and Signal are all long dead there will be people in here talking.

L84[14:13:23] <sandbox> didn't we talk about this the other day?

L85[14:13:27] <Althego> sometiems

L86[14:13:28] <Althego> https://xkcd.com/1782/

L87[14:13:40] <Althego> and i always link to xkcd

L88[14:14:10] <Mat2ch> hehe

L89[14:14:52] <Althego> meanwhile an indonesian peafowl fed an austrian chicken

L90[14:20:46] <Discepto> XKCD is always relevant.

L91[14:23:51] <Discepto> I'm connected via the web portal the forum takes you to, but I'll be back over the weekend at some point. Going to reinstall windows tomorrow and make this PC dual boot Ubuntu 22.10; got an IRC client on my lappy. Night y'all!

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L97[18:40:56] <darsie> Recover Billy-Bobsen and Billy-Bobsen's scrap.

L98[18:41:48] <darsie> Must be the son of Bill and Bob :).

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L100[18:54:40] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JILQ2qe-cjI

L101[18:54:43] <Althego> upcoming launch

L102[18:54:44] <Althego> maybe

L103[18:56:04] <darsie> stream in t-4

L104[19:02:52] <darsie> stream started

L105[19:07:06] <darsie> intro

L106[19:07:21] <darsie> live

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L108[19:10:15] <darsie> I tried to find a new class I comet till I accidently killed my IR telescope instead of untracking an asteroid.

L109[19:10:39] <darsie> terminate*

L110[19:10:42] <darsie> d

L111[19:12:19] <darsie> t-10 s

L112[19:36:40] <raptop> x_x https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039965578754007060/1076223922082680832/image.png

L113[19:38:10] <darsie> yay, I have 16 GB RAM :)

L114[19:38:39] <darsie> i7-3770, NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2)

L115[19:42:28] <darsie> looks like mi i7-3770 is faster than the i5-6400, says passmark.

L116[19:42:46] <darsie> Maybe I can get away with just a new graphics card.

L117[19:42:55] <darsie> But it'll be a while till I can play it on Linux.

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L119[19:57:08] <darsie> But faster cards draw much more power.

L120[19:57:25] <darsie> https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/2815vs4037vs4282/GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-vs-GeForce-RTX-3080

L121[19:57:34] <darsie> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/896vs2578vs4238/Intel-i7-3770-vs-Intel-i5-6400-vs-Intel-i5-11500

L122[19:59:07] <Althego> i am mostly below minimum spec. i am stil lwaiting for april until the last parts become available

L123[20:08:50] <Mat2ch> The cpus they are saying are rather low power... did they fix the cpu limitations?

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L126[21:25:12] <Izaya> 5600XT is a weird choice

L127[21:25:29] <Izaya> the 580 has an 8GB variant, I wonder if that'll do the job

L128[21:51:07] <Mat2ch> My Vega 56 should be on par with the 5600 XT and my Ryzen 2700X enough for the cpu

L129[21:51:21] <Mat2ch> I'm not worried. But I will only buy the game if we get a linux version.

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L131[22:01:31] <raptop> I'm either just below on CPU or too low to care. I can hit recommended on both RAM and storage, but I'm not in the right order of magnitude for GPU

L132[22:01:49] <raptop> So, guess it'll have to wait for me building a proper desktop. (2024?)

L133[22:02:28] <minas_tirith> raptop, hi uwu

L134[22:02:41] <minas_tirith> Izaya, hi uwu

L135[22:03:39] <Izaya> I might demo it under WINE but I don't intend to buy it without an actual Linux version yeah

L136[22:03:43] <Izaya> minas_tirith: sup, been a minute

L137[22:03:49] <SporkWitch> given how much RTX cards depend on DLSS to really shine in general performance over the 10- and 16-series (for the 20- and 30-series respectively), I'm kind of suspecting that the 10- and 16- seres will still be playable, just not ideal

L138[22:04:27] <SporkWitch> they don't mention framerate, but we can assume they probably mean 45-60 FPS, given how obsessed people are with high framerates, even on games that don't really get affected as long as it's over 20 or so

L139[22:05:34] <minas_tirith> Izaya, just alright

L140[22:05:36] <minas_tirith> bored mostly

L141[22:06:08] <minas_tirith> has intel written linux drivers for the Arc

L142[22:06:14] <minas_tirith> I have good hopes regarding it

L143[22:06:40] <minas_tirith> if they maintain friendly relations with the kernel people they will easily outthrone all other cards in that market

L144[22:06:45] <minas_tirith> *dethrone

L145[22:07:13] <Izaya> haven't been keeping up with Intel's cards, I hear they're using DXVK to implement DX on Windows in some cases though, which is wild but not unexpected

L146[22:07:32] <minas_tirith> they made an egpu recently

L147[22:07:50] <minas_tirith> I hope they wrote good linux drivers for it

L148[22:08:00] <minas_tirith> they'd be incredibly dumb not to

L149[22:08:17] <minas_tirith> Windows customers might feel it is unproven or inferior performance to the amd and nvidia

L150[22:08:19] <Izaya> I imagine they're at least as good as the Intel HD drivers, which are ... fine.

L151[22:08:44] <minas_tirith> but if it smoothly works with the linux it will be adopted without even thinking by all the linux customers

L152[22:09:17] <minas_tirith> I never had a single issue with Intel Integrated Graphics on linux whether for normal applications or video games, so it the Arc drivers are of similar quality that is indeed a good sign

L153[22:09:50] <Izaya> I gather they can be a headache on the developer side due to OpenGL weirdness, but I don't have any experience with that.

L154[22:10:11] <minas_tirith> oh?

L155[22:10:14] <Izaya> I do know that vulkan support goes back to older hardware on linux than other platforms though

L156[22:10:16] <minas_tirith> I'll have to see

L157[22:10:42] <minas_tirith> I meant to write a video game one of these days so I will notice if theres anything difficult about it anyways soon

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L160[22:23:12] * raptop waves at minas_tirith

L161[22:23:32] <minas_tirith> Yes hello

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L163[23:17:02] <packbart> now I see what you're all on about. I didn't look for KSP2's system requirements. I should be fine, my 2080S is just above minimum

L164[23:17:38] <packbart> ( https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/114zqtn/one_week_before_the_release_of_kerbal_space/ )

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L168[23:21:33] <sandbox> I wasn't going to be getting it anyway

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