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L1[00:00:57] <FLHerne> ;outcome add It's as if the water is TRYING to exist... but can't.
L2[00:00:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome: It's as if the water is TRYING to exist... but can't.
L3[00:02:51] <raptop> Oh, hey, an outcome to go with the impostor water mission
L4[00:04:57] <FLHerne> ;outcome add YOU'RE WINNER !
L5[00:04:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome: YOU'RE WINNER !
L6[00:06:56] <raptop> yay
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L8[00:23:33] <darsie> ksp crashed
L9[00:32:44] <raptop> F
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L12[01:12:21] <XXCoder> ;mission
L13[01:12:21] <LunchBot> You slice up an ice cream cone with a knife to find your orbit. "We know you broke some part of the Kerbal Aviation Act, and as soon as we decide which part it is, some type of charge will be filed. If you had a pilot's license, we'd suspend that. But you don't."
L14[01:12:44] <XXCoder> hmmm
L15[01:38:12] <SporkWitch> ;mission add You forget to patch the cones.
L16[01:38:13] <LunchBot> Added mission: You forget to patch the cones.
L17[01:51:00] <FLHerne> ah, Larry Walters
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L21[02:57:24] <raptop> !1mission
L22[02:57:29] <raptop> !mission
L23[02:57:29] <LunchBot> You outsource the assembly of your rockets to The Netherlands. You EVA home from the Mun.
L24[03:13:58] <XXCoder> interesting sequence
L25[03:14:13] <XXCoder> probably did suit only landing due to exporting too much
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L31[04:10:01] <funkenstein> I managed to get a Juno engine, a probe core, two av-r8 winglets, and a simple fin to 610m/s
L32[04:11:07] <funkenstein> It looks like I could fly all the way around Kerbin with that
L33[04:11:16] <funkenstein> Oh and a mk0 fuel tank
L34[04:11:28] <Althego> with 610 it takes a while
L35[04:11:40] <Althego> with 1200 it is tolerable
L36[04:11:41] <raptop> Oh, yeah, if you can get them through the transsonic regime, the Juno and Wheezley engines can get you surprisingly fast
L37[04:12:02] <funkenstein> Yeahhh it's sluggish but wow
L38[04:12:20] <funkenstein> 640 now
L39[04:13:40] <funkenstein> And 800 in a death dive
L40[04:14:04] <funkenstein> 1.2m in length
L41[04:14:16] <funkenstein> Yay, drones!
L42[04:15:16] <funkenstein> Wait, that was a technicality of the game as I launch it straight up. 2.2m in length and 1.2 in height
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L45[04:16:03] <funkenstein> What's that little dot by the KSC
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L51[04:22:56] <funkenstein> In and out, jeez
L52[04:23:23] <raptop> connection issues?
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L54[04:24:47] <raptop> I'll take that as a yes
L55[04:25:16] <Althego> "skill issue"
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L57[04:27:11] <funkenstein> Yeah basically, I don't have internet rn so I added esper to my phone and it doesn't stay connected for more than a couple of minutes
L58[04:27:43] <funkenstein> Not sure why
L59[04:27:55] <funkenstein> Makes me nutty
L60[04:28:12] <raptop> Guessing the tab getting killed or something
L61[04:28:26] <Althego> power saving probablt
L62[04:28:28] <funkenstein> Hm?
L63[04:28:32] <funkenstein> Odd
L64[04:28:32] <Althego> i always turn of this stupidity
L65[04:29:00] <Althego> because it never takes into account that irc or ssh is running and needs connection
L66[04:29:12] <funkenstein> Lame
L67[04:29:19] <Althego> oh user is not doing anything i guess i can cut power
L68[04:29:44] * raptop presses F to pay respects to AndChat, though I've got Revolution IRC on my phone if need-be
L69[04:30:07] <Althego> did it die?
L70[04:30:25] <Althego> no longer available on google play...
L71[04:30:53] <funkenstein> Ahaa it's a pillar with squad on it
L72[04:30:55] <raptop> yeah
L73[04:31:00] <Althego> hehe
L74[04:31:05] <Althego> you didnt know the monolith?
L75[04:31:16] <Althego> there are several of those
L76[04:31:21] <raptop> all hail the kerboliths
L77[04:31:33] <Althego> obviously a 2001 reference
L78[04:31:36] <funkenstein> Nah I kept noticing a lil speck to the left of the runway
L79[04:31:40] <Althego> there are many other easter eggs
L80[04:31:49] <Althego> on other bodies
L81[04:31:50] <funkenstein> I meant to check it out but I only now did
L82[04:31:56] <funkenstein> I see
L83[04:32:04] <Althego> there is a list on the wiki
L84[04:32:08] <funkenstein> I did find a moon arch
L85[04:32:47] <Althego> but you can discover them with satellite mapping function
L86[04:33:04] <funkenstein> Oh lol
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L88[04:33:17] <funkenstein> I landed by an arch that was broken and had glowing lights
L89[04:33:32] <raptop> The 1.12.5 arch
L90[04:33:34] <Althego> that is new
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L92[04:33:50] <raptop> (...has anyone checked to see if the other 2 have that?)
L93[04:39:06] <Althego> funkenstein: https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/KerbNet see anomaly detection
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L97[04:42:34] <funkenstein> Whoops
L98[04:43:09] <funkenstein> So if I fly by minmus using a rovemate as my command module I should be able to find whatever I i fly over
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L100[04:44:43] <Althego> not much on minmus
L101[04:44:58] <funkenstein> Mun, then
L102[04:45:04] <funkenstein> Or Kerbin?
L103[04:45:14] <Althego> kerbin, mun, duna, ike are better in that regards
L104[04:47:44] <funkenstein> ;mission
L105[04:47:44] <LunchBot> You duel-boot Linux and Windows. Had it been possible for anything to survive this event, there would have been a clear detection of gravioli.
L106[04:48:01] <funkenstein> Lol
L107[04:48:03] <raptop> hmm
L108[04:50:04] <Althego> ;mission add You build a giant Orffyreus's wheel to satisfy your power needs.
L109[04:50:04] <LunchBot> Added mission: You build a giant Orffyreus's wheel to satisfy your power needs.
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L111[04:50:24] <funkenstein> ;mission
L112[04:50:24] <LunchBot> You decide to show several tourists a sunrise on the Akatsuki Sea. The only sign of your demise is brief neutrino burst.
L113[04:50:26] <Althego> who knows it could work in ksp :)
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L117[05:36:05] <funkenstein> ;mission
L118[05:36:05] <LunchBot> You dive deep into Jool in pursuit of helium-3. You decide to consult additional pythons.
L119[05:38:21] <funkenstein> I don't get why you explode at the same point every time you enter Jool. I think it should be possible to fly through Jool with the right rocket, or use RTGs to create a quadcopter-base that maintains altitude somewhere within Jool
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L123[05:54:11] <funkenstein> Any input?
L124[06:00:38] <funkenstein> About Jool I mean
L125[06:11:42] <Althego> what do you mean same point? altitude?
L126[06:11:58] <funkenstein> Yes. If it drifted a bit who cares
L127[06:14:30] <Althego> realistically in gas giants the increase of temperature and pressure would destroy everything as you go deep
L128[06:15:27] <funkenstein> Not THAT deep lol just a few thousand meters
L129[06:15:55] <funkenstein> Also I was thinking Verbally rather than realistically
L130[06:15:59] <Althego> depending on your settings there is a pressure limit on parts
L131[06:16:21] <funkenstein> There is.
L132[06:16:24] <Althego> without that as in the older games when it was not there, you can go down to altitude zero
L133[06:16:45] <Althego> maybe a bit below that too
L134[06:16:51] <funkenstein> I have no indication of the pressure is within jool
L135[06:17:36] <Althego> sure you do
L136[06:17:44] <Althego> the pressure instrument
L137[06:18:12] <funkenstein> I think the grip pads have the best pressure/speed of impact rating of the parts, theoretically you could contain the probe core within that
L138[06:18:53] <Althego> but t he game doesnt work like that
L139[06:19:06] <Althego> you cant build a pressure sealing box out of parts
L140[06:19:12] <funkenstein> But I just was thinking a rotor-maintained altitude around 2000m below the surface of the gas
L141[06:19:16] <funkenstein> I'm aware
L142[06:19:42] <funkenstein> Maybe I'm being daft but where is the pressure instrument
L143[06:20:30] <Althego> i think jool goes sup to 9 atmospheres at sea level
L144[06:20:51] <funkenstein> Not as bad as I expected
L145[06:21:12] <Althego> wiki says 15
L146[06:21:25] <funkenstein> I have difficulty stabilizing quadcopters, any advice?
L147[06:21:56] <funkenstein> YouTube was of limited assistance, I got plenty of helicopter tutorials
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L150[06:25:46] <funkenstein> ;outcome add A lone tumbleweed rolls through space.
L151[06:25:46] <LunchBot> Added outcome: A lone tumbleweed rolls through space.
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L154[06:27:49] <funkenstein> ;mission
L155[06:27:49] <LunchBot> You attempt to get a bot to give you a straight answer. The Vallhenge is activated, and performs its primary function of [DATA EXPUNGED].
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L157[06:29:18] <Althego> hehe
L158[06:29:34] <Althego> must be the guardian of obfuscation
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L160[06:30:19] <funkenstein> ;frog
L161[06:30:20] <LunchBot> https://i.redd.it/mb4j1up2dd191.gif
L162[06:31:14] <Althego> hehe almost cartoonish
L163[06:32:24] <Althego> reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6meFp5fTd8
L164[06:34:01] <funkenstein> Lol
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L187[15:00:53] <Althego> somehow familiar :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdSxDNnqRlo
L188[15:02:55] <SporkWitch> more info (and spoilers) and speculation about the 1.12.5 easter egg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G0dgVJ5EQA
L189[15:04:23] <Althego> ah yes, there is the decoded message
L190[15:05:23] <SporkWitch> just 41 more days! https://days.to/until/24-february
L191[15:23:04] <darsie> 1.12.5? An update after the last update?
L192[15:23:20] <Althego> yes a tiny uőpdate just for that mun arch
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L200[16:24:23] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9g8wg3clrg
L201[16:24:30] <Althego> action inside jool
L202[16:35:51] <Althego> heh next one will be the sun
L203[17:21:20] <FLHerne> ;mission surface of Jool
L204[17:21:20] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "surface of Jool".
L205[17:21:23] <FLHerne> hrm
L206[17:21:29] <FLHerne> ;mission land on Jool
L207[17:21:29] <LunchBot> You accept a contract to land on Jool's surface.
L208[17:37:24] <darsie> Can the command seat be positioned somewhere so the 0.625 m heat shield protects a Kerbal from entry heat? http://0x0.st/o73G.png
L209[17:37:45] <darsie> I moved it back and forth with no success.
L210[17:40:26] <SporkWitch> i really think it just needs to be wider; even if you put the kerbal right on the heat shield i think he's still too tall to be covered entierly
L211[17:40:32] <Althego> heatshields dont even protect stuff adequately which are the same width as them
L212[17:42:20] <darsie> Works with the 1.5 m HS.
L213[17:42:41] <darsie> Although the okto2 got a bit hot that was attached to it.
L214[17:42:57] <SporkWitch> even worse with deadly reentry and mod parts, though part of that could be poor interactions with KSPIE (which after seeing that they apparently don't play nice with each other, i removed deadly reentry). With that, some of the modded command pods flare out a tiny bit so they just barely overhang the properly sized heat shield. Logically they should be covered, but since the game doesn't really
L215[17:43:28] <SporkWitch> simulate the shape of the shockwave, it causes it to not protect those modded pods, but the stock ones (which don't flare out) work fine with their proper size shield
L216[17:44:29] <Althego> this is what annoys me, if the air is deflected outside nothing that is the same width as the shield should be overheating
L217[17:45:15] <darsie> Some air molecules might pass through the deflection stream without collision.
L218[17:45:31] <SporkWitch> up to a certain distance; the protected area is going to be a teardrop shape, since the low pressure area behind the vessel will suck that plasma back in
L219[17:45:47] <darsie> Although the shocked air collides with itself, I think.
L220[17:45:56] <SporkWitch> that's why i'm thinking it's a height issue; kerbal's head is outside the protect area
L221[17:46:09] <darsie> Yeah, Kerbal is too big.
L222[17:46:16] <Althego> hehe bigheaded kerbal
L223[17:46:32] <SporkWitch> i mean, kerbals ARE like 50% head, in terms of height lol
L224[17:46:46] <SporkWitch> especially when suited up lol
L225[18:02:36] *** raptop changes topic to 'Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.12.5 | Rules: http://tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | KSP 2 Early Access Feb 24 https://tinyurl.com/ksp2earlyaccess '
L226[18:11:49] <darsie> Who has done a "Complete the ultimate Mun 6 Voyage" or so?
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L228[18:12:08] <funkenstein> https://youtu.be/h9g8wg3clrg
L229[18:12:34] <funkenstein> Not what I was looking for about Jool but fascinating
L230[18:13:31] <funkenstein> ;mission
L231[18:13:31] <LunchBot> In order to spite your elementary school teachers, you write in recursive handwriting instead of cursive. The result is very hammer.
L232[18:14:35] <packbart> Hammer, Digger
L233[18:15:32] <funkenstein> Hammerfell, Daggerfall, it's amazing they didn't call it Skydrop
L234[18:16:03] <SporkWitch> Morrowsink? Obliviunder?
L235[18:16:20] <funkenstein> Oblivion could be left as is lol
L236[18:16:22] <SporkWitch> Actually, obliviunder sounds like a harry potter spell... lol
L237[18:16:42] <funkenstein> That's where you go when you finish with all that dropping, falling, sinking, and droppinf
L238[18:17:06] <funkenstein> Lol a spell to remove the ground beneath a target
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L240[18:24:37] <SporkWitch> the new game looks like it might be neat. won't preorder, but will definitely check out some gameplay footage once it's out, probably pick it up if the combat looks good
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L242[18:27:55] <funkenstein> I was like "combat it ksp2
L243[18:28:09] <funkenstein> *combat in ksp2?"
L244[18:28:30] <SporkWitch> naw, the new harry potter game. That said, I fully expect weapons mods once KSP2 modding support comes in, ESPECIALLY since we'll have proper multiplayer
L245[18:29:26] <funkenstein> You thought you were going to launch a river to minmus? *pyeerrm* nope
L246[18:29:44] <funkenstein> Rover. My phone thinks rovers aren't real
L247[18:32:43] <umaxtu> the new HP game does look cool. shame about J K Rowling though
L248[18:33:26] <funkenstein> Jeb Kerman Rowling
L249[18:33:39] <umaxtu> and I've heard some criticisms about the plot being antisemitic
L250[18:34:11] <funkenstein> Yeah the goblins kinda hurt
L251[18:34:12] <SporkWitch> you've heard raving lunatics who thinks orthodox jews are literal nazis (not even kidding); pay them no mind
L252[18:34:34] <Althego> that 1.12.5 download was really slow
L253[18:35:02] <SporkWitch> bad connection? I have crappy Spectrum internet and it was pretty fast here. It was only a single model change, after all.
L254[18:35:09] <funkenstein> The goblins are painfully adherent to antisemitic stereotypes
L255[18:35:10] <Althego> no
L256[18:35:15] <Althego> i mean bad oon the server side
L257[18:36:03] <SporkWitch> the goblins resemble goblin stereotypes from mythology; the people saying they're analogues to jews are projecting their own antisemitism. Source: I'm a jew, I'm not offended by things clearly not intended to offend.
L258[18:36:41] <Althego> havent you learned that today everybody is offended by everything
L259[18:36:47] <SporkWitch> (and the bank they shot the scenes in the movie in is a real bank in london; they didn't photoshop the floor in, so you can't use that as an argument either)
L260[18:36:58] <funkenstein> I'm also Jewish and while I'm not wildly offended like some are I do find it cringeworthy
L261[18:37:04] <SporkWitch> Althego: i know it full well, it's why i'm calling out the criticisms umaxtu referred to as what it is
L262[18:37:13] <funkenstein> The floor?
L263[18:37:14] <packbart> in the Discworld, a typical dwarf song goes "Gold, gold, gold, gold, gold!"
L264[18:37:22] <SporkWitch> only cringey if you choose to take it that way
L265[18:37:33] <SporkWitch> yeah, the bank has a star of david on it; its' an actual bank in london
L266[18:37:57] <funkenstein> Dwarves have always been gold-driven and alcohol driven
L267[18:38:07] <funkenstein> Oh wow I never noticed that
L268[18:38:15] <SporkWitch> it's one of the arguments the nutters tried to use to say "see! see!"
L269[18:38:26] <umaxtu> I just think people are being premature. game can be made with terrible things happening if they take care.
L270[18:38:54] <funkenstein> If it's a good game no problem
L271[18:39:19] <funkenstein> It's her gender bollocks that I find most disappointing
L272[18:39:19] <packbart> I'd rather not buy any EA game, though ;)
L273[18:39:23] <SporkWitch> it's just absurd on its face, especially when the whole good/evil dynamic of the series is that the death eaters are the brownshirts calling for racial purity, and the rest are the Allies fighting against them
L274[18:39:35] <funkenstein> Yep lmao
L275[18:41:05] <SporkWitch> people are just salty because rowling, in her capacity as an individual, acknowledged the reality that biological sex exists. She's never attacked anyone, never shamed them, just pointed out the attacks and infringements on biological women, and for that she's canceled. the woke cult eats its own, like all extremeists, because no deviation from the party line can be tolerated.
L276[18:41:23] <sandbox> perhaps change the topic
L277[18:41:31] <funkenstein> Thanks
L278[18:41:35] <umaxtu> yeah, my bad
L279[18:41:37] <packbart> "published by Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment" - ah, ok. not EA then
L280[18:41:37] <funkenstein> ;mission
L281[18:41:38] <LunchBot> You throw a fit about not having the same privileges as your siblings, leading to interstellar war. You make two important discoveries in rapid succession: Your glasses have been on the floor all this time, and that marker you've been burning along is actually the retrograde one.
L282[18:41:51] <SporkWitch> packbart: i assumed you meant Early Access lol
L283[18:42:19] <packbart> nah, I meant Electronic Arts but that was just based on the first search results
L284[18:42:32] <Althego> ea is widely regarded one of the worst game publishers
L285[18:42:37] <Althego> if not the worst
L286[18:42:39] <SporkWitch> ah, yeah it's Warner Brothers who owns the rights. Think they're also the publisher on the lego harry potter games
L287[18:42:57] <SporkWitch> EA, actiblizzion, and Epic are in a three-way tie for me
L288[18:43:16] <umaxtu> at least EA finally figured out how to make a good star wars game
L289[18:43:16] <SporkWitch> if the microsoft acquisition of actiblizzion does go through, that might edge them ahead of the pack for worst
L290[18:43:22] <packbart> well, lucky us that KSP is published by Take Two
L291[18:43:35] <Althego> ingenuity flew again and then went back to airfield z. my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
L292[18:43:58] <SporkWitch> did take two buy private division? O.o
L293[18:43:59] <sandbox> EA seemed to improve for a short time... but that was about 15 years ago
L294[18:44:26] <SporkWitch> steam page still shows intercept as the dev and private division as the publisher...
L295[18:44:26] <umaxtu> they've ditched the "single player games are dead" bs at least
L296[18:44:49] <SporkWitch> i just wish they'd pushed through with Anthem. The potential for that game was epic, and they just gave up on it
L297[18:45:06] <umaxtu> if I had to pick a favorite publisher, it would be devolver digital
L298[18:45:21] <umaxtu> but picking favorites is stupid. so I wont
L299[18:45:37] <funkenstein> ;mission
L300[18:45:37] <LunchBot> You ask for a banana mod on the forums. You receive a sixpack of Jeb's Homebrew 75% Ginger Ale (with zero asbestos!) as an "I'm sorry for screwing your mission up" gift.
L301[18:45:38] <packbart> SporkWitch: "Private Division is Take-Two Interactive's third publishing label, following Rockstar Games and 2K"
L302[18:45:43] <SporkWitch> i couldn't say i have any favourites anymore, pretty much all have disappointed me in recent years. Why i've been doing so many random indie games by one or two person teams
L303[18:45:48] <packbart> ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Division )
L304[18:45:56] <SporkWitch> packbart: ah, well that's unfortuante :(
L305[18:46:23] <umaxtu> yeah. aa and smaller games are where it's at
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L308[18:47:59] <SporkWitch> i take back my comment; i was brainfarting and mixed up take-two with tencent
L309[18:48:33] <umaxtu> have any of you played Cult of the Lamb?
L310[18:49:28] <SporkWitch> doesn't sound familiar
L311[18:49:40] <packbart> hm. Tencent owns 9% of Frontier Developments stock
L312[18:50:12] <SporkWitch> technically i shouldn't give the names of some of the indies i've been playing as they're lewd, but the hilarity is that the ones i've been playing literally have better character development, storylines, and gameplay than 90% of the major releases for the past 10 years lol
L313[18:50:27] <Althego> i havent, but seen vtubers play it
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L316[18:58:22] <umaxtu> it's a blast.
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L320[19:19:48] <funkenstein> Somehow I feel bad time warping over 200 days because I feel that I should be doing several missions simultaneously, but at the moment the only idea I have is getting my rover to Eve, so there goes two years
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L323[19:21:22] <packbart> that feeling only leads to abandoned saves with probes on the way to all the planets but none ever arrives ;)
L324[19:21:33] <funkenstein> Lmao fair enough
L325[19:22:28] <funkenstein> I don't have that problem with probes though, I'm fine launching those simultaneously but I feel uncomfortable for manned missions
L326[19:22:33] <funkenstein> Kerbed missions?
L327[19:22:47] <SporkWitch> yeah, usually the only "background" stuff I have are things in big solar orbits, usually sentinels; transits I typically just fly the active mission, with occasional exceptions.
L328[19:23:42] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pivk4ebwLw
L329[19:25:48] <funkenstein> I always thought the pulses we're a fan with a broken blade in the office
L330[19:26:10] <funkenstein> It didn't line up for Morse so I forgot about it
L331[19:30:12] <funkenstein> Where does Eve's atmosphere begin
L332[19:32:13] <SporkWitch> funkenstein: https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Science#Celestial_body_multipliers
L333[19:32:28] <funkenstein> Nvm figure it out the Kerbal way
L334[19:33:22] <funkenstein> Figured*
L335[19:33:48] <SporkWitch> the chart gives the line where low/high atmo split (atmo border), atmo/low orbit (atmo limit), and low/high orbit (space border); wish it included the SoI as well, just for convenience
L336[19:35:04] <funkenstein> My fairing is enough to keep everything from burning, right? As long as I decelerate
L337[19:35:25] <SporkWitch> Guess you'll find out :P Fairings are better than no fairing, but they're not really heat shields
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L339[19:36:04] <Althego> and quit loll
L340[19:36:22] <SporkWitch> either the web client is just that flaky or his connection is just that bad lol
L341[19:36:28] <SporkWitch> really needs to use a bouncer
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L345[19:50:25] <funkenstein> I forgot parachutes
L346[19:50:53] <Althego> hehe
L347[19:50:58] <Althego> everybody does
L348[19:51:15] <Althego> "check yo stagin"
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L354[20:10:25] <funkenstein> Eve entry with no heat shields!
L355[20:10:45] <funkenstein> And too many parachutes
L356[20:11:39] <Althego> hehe
L357[20:11:52] <Althego> if you have the inflatable, take that
L358[20:11:56] <Althego> survives everything
L359[20:12:46] <funkenstein> I took it but jettisoned it because I got through the atmosphere on. Fairing and fuel alone
L360[20:13:09] <funkenstein> It was only serving as a heavy parachute
L361[20:14:04] <funkenstein> Which had been my plan for using it to drop in a helicopter that would carry a rocket back up to as high as rotors can take me before rejoining with a mother craft
L362[20:14:41] <Althego> "mothership." "drives offline."
L363[20:15:05] <funkenstein> But I can't make a rotored (is that a word? It is now)vehicle that is stable enough to just go straight up
L364[20:15:20] <Althego> strange
L365[20:15:47] <funkenstein> Up, then sharply to the left at 10,000m
L366[20:16:01] <SporkWitch> rotary-wing aircraft are complicated IRL, and much moreso in KSP because of the wonky atmospherics lol
L367[20:16:03] <Althego> https://www.centennialofflight.net/essay/Dictionary/heli_rotor_config/DI54.htm
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L369[20:16:24] <darsie> For my Eve sample return mission I did entry without heat shield with entry burn.
L370[20:16:24] <Althego> i would do coaxial
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L372[20:16:48] <funkenstein> Meshed rotors were not working
L373[20:17:01] <funkenstein> To be fair I only tried making a helicopter yesterday
L374[20:17:25] <funkenstein> Ones with tail rotors were fine, but could not fit beneath the inflatable heat shield
L375[20:20:23] <funkenstein> Wow, MPL is overpowered
L376[20:24:45] <SporkWitch> coaxial rotors are easier to do
L377[20:24:59] <Althego> they still sucked when i tried it
L378[20:25:04] <Althego> but it flew
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L380[20:26:33] <Althego> there is this idea that helicopters dont fly, but beat the eair into submission
L381[20:26:35] <Althego> air
L382[20:26:47] <SporkWitch> that's not an idea, that's reality
L383[20:27:27] <SporkWitch> but yeah, coaxial still sucks, just less than trying to make a tail rotor work in KSP
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L386[20:33:18] <funkenstein> ;mission
L387[20:33:18] <LunchBot> You order a shipment of asbestos-free snacks for your pilots. You realize that the landing in "Moon landing" was permanent.
L388[20:33:27] <funkenstein> Lol
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L390[20:37:33] <SporkWitch> at least they have snacks!
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L395[22:11:27] <funkenstein> Getting tired of "cannot analyze data as MPL is full of data" how do I empty it then, this is my most important set of data
L396[22:13:15] <packbart> transmit the data. not sure if there's a data vent
L397[22:13:41] <SporkWitch> data is the raw unrefined science, it can't be removed, just gotta wait for the lab to process it into science
L398[22:13:45] <packbart> hm. oh wait, that means input data, right?
L399[22:13:59] <packbart> yeah, need scientists to convert it
L400[22:14:02] <funkenstein> Yeah
L401[22:14:02] <SporkWitch> you DO want to keep it as full as possible, though, as the more data in the lab, the faster it generates science
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L404[22:15:52] <packbart> so it doesn't really matter which experiments you feed in
L405[22:15:54] <funkenstein> Seriously esper
L406[22:16:11] <funkenstein> But I have better data from the basalt pillar scan
L407[22:16:28] <funkenstein> Shouldn't I use that over a couple of crew reports
L408[22:16:43] <SporkWitch> funkenstein: it's not esper, its' you; none of us are having connectivity issues lol
L409[22:17:13] <packbart> it all comes out as science points. "better" experiments just fill the data buffer faster
L410[22:17:17] <funkenstein> Hmph
L411[22:18:01] <funkenstein> Once it is done, then, can I put this data in with "review experiment"
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L414[22:22:10] <funkenstein> Now it says it's full with only 250/750 data
L415[22:23:01] <SporkWitch> don't think it lets you overfill it, so if the experiment is worth 500 it could refuse (rounding in the display, but not the real value)
L416[22:23:12] <funkenstein> Ah
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L419[22:28:49] <funkenstein> Aaand everything exploded for no apparent reason
L420[22:29:05] <SporkWitch> slacking on sacrifices to the kraken again?
L421[22:29:11] <funkenstein> Apparently
L422[22:29:32] <funkenstein> *reaches 15m/s* khoossh
L423[22:30:58] <funkenstein> ;outcome explode
L424[22:30:59] <LunchBot> GreeningGalaxy explodes, becoming an improbably-colored quasar.
L425[22:31:09] <funkenstein> ;outcome explodes
L426[22:31:09] <LunchBot> The quadratic formula explodes!
L427[22:31:24] <funkenstein> ;outcome explodes
L428[22:31:24] <LunchBot> Your rocket explodes while you're out having lunch.
L429[22:31:37] <funkenstein> How many explosive outcomes do we have here
L430[22:31:51] <funkenstein> ;outcome everything explodes
L431[22:31:51] <LunchBot> Your efforts are misdirected and fail to address the underlying problem. Everything explodes.
L432[22:32:01] <raptop> 41 outcomes contain the string "explode"
L433[22:32:17] <raptop> !mission
L434[22:32:17] <LunchBot> You encounter the Knights who say NI₃. The sun wins the race against your ion glider.
L435[22:32:30] <funkenstein> Are any of them simply "everything explodes"
L436[22:32:49] <funkenstein> The knight who say NI³ lmaoo
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L438[22:38:56] <raptop> !tell funkenstein things that may be helpful: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.mrarm.irc or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.irccloud.android
L439[22:39:23] <raptop> hm
L440[22:46:22] <FLHerne> I think there are actually 53 explosive outcomes, allowing for "explosive" and "explosion" and so on
L441[22:47:12] <packbart> !outcome boom
L442[22:47:12] <LunchBot> Boom!
L443[22:47:14] <packbart> !outcome boom
L444[22:47:14] <LunchBot> Kaboom, and the vessel is gone!
L445[22:47:15] <FLHerne> weirdly that's less than 3% of all outcomes
L446[22:47:15] <raptop> makes sense
L447[22:47:20] <raptop> hah
L448[22:47:22] <packbart> well, there's more ;)
L449[22:47:24] <FLHerne> I would have expected a lot more
L450[22:47:27] <FLHerne> true
L451[22:48:15] <raptop> !outcome deflag
L452[22:48:15] <LunchBot> Technically the rocket merely experienced a rapid deflagration and never detonated.
L453[22:50:29] <FLHerne> 7 [ka]booms, 3 blasts (of the explosion kind)
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L455[22:50:36] <FLHerne> zero implosions, which shocks me
L456[22:50:38] <funkenstein> The kraken is hungry
L457[22:50:48] <funkenstein> Zero implosions?
L458[22:51:09] <funkenstein> 100% explosions?
L459[22:51:13] <FLHerne> 34 krakens
L460[22:51:27] <funkenstein> Every time I crest a hill my rover explodes
L461[22:52:07] <funkenstein> And a Kerman I.
L462[22:52:11] <funkenstein> In a pear tree
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L465[22:55:31] <funkenstein> 8 times in a row, tiny bounce BIG BOUNCE boom
L466[22:55:43] <raptop> things that may be helpful: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.mrarm.irc or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.irccloud.android
L467[22:56:19] <raptop> !outcome add Your rocket surprises everyone by imploding this time.
L468[22:56:19] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your rocket surprises everyone by imploding this time.
L469[22:56:31] <funkenstein> ;mission
L470[22:56:31] <LunchBot> TD-12 Decoupler collided with Jebediah Kerman. Kmath is lost in the evening netsplit.
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L473[22:59:07] *** Funkenstein_ is now known as Funkenstein
L474[22:59:59] <Funkenstein> Back
L475[23:00:05] <Funkenstein> ;mission
L476[23:00:05] <LunchBot> You plug your computer into a cheap Chinese power adaptor driven by a lawnmower engine. Your relaxing replica Europa Report mission suddenly turns frightening when you are [DATA EXPUNGED] on Vall.
L477[23:01:56] <raptop> hm
L478[23:07:18] <Azander> ;mission
L479[23:07:18] <LunchBot> Kmath can't be bothered to find you a mission. You spend all that remains of your budget on cleaning up the mess you made.
L480[23:07:18] <packbart> The Lawnmower Vall
L481[23:25:20] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Your rocket implodes, you repair it, then it explodes, you repair it again and launch it.
L482[23:25:20] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your rocket implodes, you repair it, then it explodes, you repair it again and launch it.
L483[23:26:10] <packbart> just build the imploding rocket around an exploding rocket. boom, stability
L484[23:26:29] <SporkWitch> literally boom stability lol
L485[23:26:57] <FLHerne> based on real events, see SH Booster 7
L486[23:27:18] <FLHerne> although they haven't yet launched it, there's time for it to implode or explode again before launch
L487[23:34:30] <Funkenstein> ;mission
L488[23:34:30] <LunchBot> You successfully dock with no RCS! You've used this command too much and the universe collapses.
L489[23:34:40] <Funkenstein> I did that lol
L490[23:34:55] <Funkenstein> I don't think I've yet docked with rcs
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L492[23:36:01] <Funkenstein> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/h3RxyGOd/20230108_231210.jpg
L493[23:36:32] <Funkenstein> New jwst image looks like it would make a great cake topping
L494[23:36:44] <Funkenstein> Also like the intro to the amazing world of gumball
L495[23:36:52] <Funkenstein> ;mission
L496[23:36:52] <LunchBot> You attempt to drive your solar sail vessel with a flashlight. You may be Jeb's favorite, maybe! (maybe)
L497[23:45:04] <FLHerne> Funkenstein: you're uppercase!
L498[23:45:27] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Your name is mysteriously capitalized.
L499[23:45:27] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your name is mysteriously capitalized.
L500[23:46:26] <Funkenstein> I am?
L501[23:46:31] <Funkenstein> Was I not before?
L502[23:47:24] <raptop> correct
L503[23:47:55] <Funkenstein> Well I switched to irccloud as you suggested
L504[23:48:12] <Funkenstein> I miss the colors of the lounge but eh
L505[23:48:51] <Funkenstein> ;outcome add Kaboosh!
L506[23:48:51] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Kaboosh!
L507[23:48:51] <raptop> IIRC, irccloud comes with its own bouncer, which is nice
L508[23:49:46] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rua5wJbG2mw EU opens first mainland satellite launch port in Arctic Sweden | DW News
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