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L43[03:00:11] <raptop> blink

L44[03:00:31] <raptop> I'm going to assume that a cat tried to join the channel

L45[03:06:16] <Pinkbeast> meow

L47[03:10:11] <Rutabaga22> Hello, what is this?

L54[04:25:23] <SporkWitch> naw, just a distracted discord bot; we actually know how to run stuff on IRC, which is why discord STILL allows you to put non-ASCII characters in names that draw lines all over a full 2560x1440 screen to make other people's messages unreadable

L74[10:19:29] <Guest52812> hello ! anybody there ?

L75[10:19:44] <Guest52812> i have a question about multiplayer mods

L76[10:20:04] <Guest52812> which one is more recent ? Dark Multiplayers or Luna Multiplayer ?

L77[10:23:52] <darsie> .

L78[10:24:05] <darsie> idk

L79[10:24:31] <darsie> Someone else might know.

L80[10:24:44] <darsie> stay around.

L81[10:25:12] <darsie> does ckan have a date?

L82[10:27:43] <Guest52812> i just read on steam LMP + KSS must be fine than DMP. The reason seem tobe DMP is more laggy

L83[10:27:58] <Guest52812> i'm looking for KSS now

L84[10:31:46] <Guest52812> KSS = Kerbal Star System

L85[10:31:52] <Guest52812> yup thx for all

L88[10:34:10] <Guest38516> hello

L90[10:38:28] <darsie> .

L93[12:37:54] <darsie> 1337

L98[15:36:11] <raptop> hm, no more guest

L99[15:40:30] <darsie> .

L105[15:58:34] <raptop> oh no

L106[16:01:22] <Althego> more lemmings

L107[16:01:44] <darsie> :)

L110[17:13:51] <SporkWitch> bah, i forgot the MEM doesn't have reaction wheels >_<

L111[17:14:03] <SporkWitch> all the way to the mun, jettison the transfer stage, then i have no control lol

L112[17:14:32] <Althego> it does have rcs

L113[17:14:40] <SporkWitch> yeah, but not enough monoprop heh

L117[19:09:06] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq5mJdwsmSc

L118[19:09:08] <Althego> scott

L134[19:16:34] <SporkWitch> is it february yet? XD

L135[19:16:58] <Althego> why should it be fenruary

L136[19:17:05] <SporkWitch> KSP2 :P

L153[19:20:00] <Althego> also where is my 7k series amd with vache?

L154[19:20:03] <Althego> vcache

L155[19:20:09] <Althego> that is probably february too

L156[19:20:38] <SporkWitch> i am hearing good things about the next gen radeons, but i still just don't trust their drivers, especially on linux

L157[19:20:45] <Althego> hehe

L158[19:21:15] <Althego> i never had a great experience with nvidia drivers under linux either

L159[19:21:34] <umaxtu> fglrx was even worse

L160[19:22:29] <umaxtu> from what I've heard, AMD's linux drivers are awesome these days

L161[19:23:29] <Althego> in return the nvidia adapter cable catches fire

L162[19:28:39] <FLHerne> SporkWitch: the AMD drivers have been great on Linux for at least 5 years now

L163[19:28:54] <FLHerne> unless you need compute, anyway

L164[19:29:04] <FLHerne> or raytracing :p

L165[19:33:04] <Althego> raytracing in games is still not really ready

L166[19:33:22] <SporkWitch> i've never had issues with the proprietary nvidia binaries since around the GTX260 era. That was when I made the switch to pure nvidia, because the Radeon X1800XT was a 600 dollar card at the time, with drivers so bad that some of the most popular games at the time (such as PlanetSide) caused hard crashes (as in not just CTD, but literally "disconnect power, everything's dead").

L167[19:33:58] <FLHerne> that's a very long way back

L168[19:34:59] <FLHerne> In the last few years Nvidia blob has been a total nuisance if you have Wayland, or a machine with multiple GPUs that aren't all Nvidia (like many laptops)

L169[19:35:17] <FLHerne> or like to run the latest kernel

L170[19:35:27] <SporkWitch> i've seen nothing to indicate it's improved enough to be worth switching back. With the Ryzen / Threadripper CPUs and associated GPUs, AMD's finally pulled their proverbial head out of their butt and are putting out good hardware again after their misguided APU obsession, but I still just haven't seen anything to make me trust their drivers.

L171[19:35:44] <SporkWitch> honestly, weyland has always been hell for me in itself, so i just don't use it lol

L172[19:37:41] <SporkWitch> that said, i've been forced to run windows for the time being because of a couple games i just cannot get behaving in linux. I'll need to upgrade my PSU if I want to stick my GTX1060 back in as a second card for pass-through, though I'm not sure it'll be enough, because before installing Windows as the host OS, I was trying to get it working in a VM and it feels like MS did some sabotage to

L173[19:38:24] <SporkWitch> ensure windows VMs are totally unusable unless using a windows host and hyper-v; literally just sitting at the desktop was a slideshow, with a Ryzen 9 3950x (half the cores assigned to VM) and 64GB of RAM assigned.

L174[19:38:38] <FLHerne> I mean, since the X1800 days it's not "improved"

L175[19:38:56] <FLHerne> the current, open-source, driver stack didn't *exist* then

L176[19:39:08] <FLHerne> at least in any usable form

L177[19:39:29] <FLHerne> fglrx didn't evolve into anything, it just became obsolete and eventually died

L178[19:39:37] <SporkWitch> everything i've ever heard about the open source drivers is that they're than AMD's proprietary ones, but not by much

L179[19:39:55] <SporkWitch> *better than AMD's

L180[19:40:19] <FLHerne> I don't know where you've heard that

L182[19:41:01] <umaxtu> secure boot can also be a pain with nvidia drivers

L183[19:41:28] <FLHerne> I've not seen any comments like that since ~2016 even if I disagreed with them