L24[02:57:49] <cringe> ISS Urine Tank Level: 24%

L25[03:05:59] <raptop> huh, relatively low

L27[03:11:09] <cringe> bro

L28[03:11:23] <cringe> the clean tank is at like 92%

L29[03:12:04] <cringe> they've been cleanin house for guests

L32[03:14:10] <cringe> oh

L33[03:14:11] <cringe> you left

L34[03:14:15] <cringe> the clean tank is at like 92%

L35[03:14:21] <cringe> they've been cleanin house for guests

L36[03:22:06] <raptop> hm

L42[04:23:14] <Izaya> successfully parsed my save file well enough to extract the records https://shadowkat.net/tmp/48f3.txt

L73[17:12:36] <raptop> !mission

L74[17:12:36] <LunchBot> You sacrifice a floating point to the Dark Lord Kahan. Cirno is embarassed by your poor math skills.

L75[17:13:04] <raptop> I was not expecting a mission/outcome combination to be related like that

L76[17:13:25] <Althego> hehe

L77[17:36:16] <umaxtu> managed to get into a Molniya orbit in RP-1!

L78[18:03:30] <umaxtu> the first stage is kinda underpowered though

L82[18:28:52] <raptop> grats!

L87[18:45:22] <Pinkbeast> Dunno if anyone's on with Wiki editing rights but https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?title=Duna got hit again

L88[18:45:41] <Althego> ehh

L89[18:51:03] <raptop> anyway, reverted

L90[18:52:47] <Althego> "oh no. anyway"

L91[19:11:11] <Althego> kikkerikii

L99[20:56:28] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgS3dPAbw0

L100[20:56:34] <Althego> in about 2 hours

L109[22:16:31] <SporkWitch> Intelsat G-33/G-34 mission control audio stream just started. Launch stream should start in an hour or so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ap-SAKuMWU

L110[22:26:18] <Mat2ch> not going to stay awake for that one :(

L111[22:32:39] <SporkWitch> stream starting in 27 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgS3dPAbw0

L113[22:51:29] <SporkWitch> stream starting now

L114[22:57:52] <Izaya> Hmm, maybe rather than building my mapping satellites to be as cheap as possible I should build them to be moved, so I'd spend 75 grand on one then re-use it to map everything

L115[22:59:56] <SporkWitch> Can do, but they're honestly so cheap anyway, no real reason to, and personally I like leaving them in orbit, as if it's a permanent surveilance satellite

L116[23:00:32] <SporkWitch> after all, any geologically active body or any that has an atmosphere (and thus weather) would have things change over time, thus you'd want to keep watching.

L117[23:01:30] <SporkWitch> what really drives me nuts, though, are the "reposition satellite" missions. I swear, they ALWAYS try to tell me to move my commsats out of position so they no longer serve their purpose lol

L118[23:02:28] <SporkWitch> they should have some logic written in so those particular missions can't be generate to tell you to move anything classified as a relay, since obviously relays are in very deliberate orbits

L119[23:09:29] <Izaya> so far I have like three generations of mapping satellite in Mun orbit, and they're all doubling as communication satellites

L120[23:10:00] <Izaya> the high-end ScanSat sensors cost nearly as much as a nuclear engine though, so I'd like to be able to re-use them I think

L121[23:10:25] <Izaya> maybe that will be my next design project; a reusable mapping satellite

L123[23:10:53] <Izaya> deployable communication satellites would be a nice touch too

L125[23:13:01] <SporkWitch> i just do two each, one with all of the low-res sensors, one with all of the high-res sensors. It's possible to have all of them at ideal range, so nothing suffers, though I don't think the same is true of a single with all low AND high res sensors

L126[23:13:40] <Izaya> for a hypothetical Jool mission I guess you'd want a pair of high-power ones in low polar Jool orbit, then a trio in equatorial orbit of each moon

L127[23:14:50] <SporkWitch> for commsats? depends on the size of the body; generally planet-sized objects you want a polar triangle and an equatorial triangle, but most moon-sized bodies you can get away with just a polar triangle

L128[23:15:35] <Izaya> the two in Jool orbit would be for uplink to KSC, whereas the ones around each body would be to provide uninterrupted coverage

L129[23:15:38] <SporkWitch> wiki has a recommended setup for total coverage that I think is a bit overly conservative, but it might assume you haven't bothered to upgrade the tracking station, maybe https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial:Setting_up_a_CommNet_system

L130[23:17:08] <SporkWitch> you'd still want three around jool itself; just because with two you have contact with the KSC doesn't mean you have line of sight to the ones around jool's moons. With three, you ensure the ones around the moons have line of sight on the ones around jool itself, and the ones around jool have line of sight to each other, and at least one has it to the KSC, unless occluded by the sun

L131[23:17:21] <SporkWitch> (and that's where the solar relays come in, for deep space coverage)

L133[23:20:46] <SporkWitch> grrr, couldn't find the answer to the question i had, but did stumble across a fun fact: jupiter and the sun's barycenter is actually slightly above the surface of the sun

L136[23:36:28] <Izaya> hmm, so what I'm hearing is that for a Jool mission I'd want 6 sets of 3 relay satellites

L137[23:36:36] <Izaya> and that one of each set could happily do mapping too

L139[23:39:36] <Izaya> >:D they're paying me to add a habitation ring to my Mun space station

L140[23:42:41] <SporkWitch> nice :)