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L1[00:13:17] <Izaya> Shout-out to the LV-303 'Pug' Liquid Fuel Engine for being an adequate substitute for a heatshield in addition to being a pretty good orbital engine.
L2[00:15:20] <Izaya> Also, new 'No Shortage of Dreams' post if anyone reads it https://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.com/2022/08/lunar-workshop-lass-proposal-1966.html
L3[01:05:55] <packbart> "splashed down at The Sun" oO
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L19[08:05:02] <Izaya> been using a variant of this script for my launches for like a year and I'm only now implementing a launch to inclination script
L20[08:05:05] <Izaya> go figure
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L27[09:44:33] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/90cb.jpg Got half the external tanks attached, time to get to work on a Mun mission.
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L30[09:47:45] <Izaya> Gonna be nice to research the better nuclear engines though, then I can drop all the solar panels from later designs, because I can run the nuclear reactor to cool the tanks.
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L33[10:35:32] <Mat2ch> If y'all want a real crazy experience then watch a starlink launch while the Oxygene album from Jean Michel Jarre is running in the background
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L36[11:02:38] <Althego> why oxygene?
L37[11:06:02] <Mat2ch> One of the best albums ever made.
L38[11:06:31] <Mat2ch> And somehow synthesizer music just fits rocket launches
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L40[11:37:33] <Althego> local leet time
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L48[14:12:46] <funkenstein> ;mission
L49[14:12:46] <LunchBot> You perform gastric bypass surgery on the Deep Space Kraken. There are unforeseen consequences.
L50[14:13:27] <funkenstein> Joke's on you, I foresaw that there would be unforeseen consequences.
L51[14:35:52] <Mat2ch> !mission
L52[14:35:53] <LunchBot> You attempt to push Jool into the Fulton Gap to increase the amount of land for Kerbals to live on. Lagrange points out the error of your ways.
L53[14:36:17] <Mat2ch> if KSP would simulate them, they would.
L54[14:39:47] * UmbralRaptop wonders if I need to explain the reference in the mission part of that one
L55[14:42:06] <Mat2ch> The mission was to push Jool there to evaporate parts of its atmosphere which would maybe make it habitable...
L56[14:42:53] <Mat2ch> But it would probably just suck up Kerbin in the process. It could work, but Kerbin would be gone.
L57[14:43:30] <SporkWitch> there's the mod that jumps forward to the sun's red giant phase; the kerbals moved to and terraformed Duna
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L68[15:25:17] <Izaya> Think I've finally figured out a lander design for my first Mun mission, even more compact than my previous design: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/4a64.jpg
L69[15:25:56] <SporkWitch> it's so tiny!
L70[15:26:04] <Izaya> Seats two, uses radial engines so it can have a cupola on the top and a docking port on the bottom.
L71[15:26:48] <Izaya> It's less useful than the 4-kerbal lander, but it's much simpler to integrate with my mission
L72[15:26:52] <Izaya> Plus, it's lighter
L73[15:30:19] <Izaya> Did I mention it's cheap?
L74[15:30:23] <Deddly> That's really sweet. Got some tweakscaling going on?
L75[15:31:43] <Izaya> Nope, just lots of part mods
L76[15:32:03] <Deddly> Makes sense. I thought that cupola looked small :)
L77[15:32:27] <Izaya> That one's from SSPX-R
L78[15:32:39] <Izaya> I've clipped it into a Tantares airlock module
L79[15:34:26] <Izaya> the airlock doesn't have an IVA so it's sorta wigging out with the clipping
L80[15:34:28] <Izaya> ah well
L81[15:34:53] <Izaya> Also: because it's so round, if you flip it over, you can retract the legs and roll it upright!
L82[15:34:55] <Izaya> :D
L83[15:36:54] <Izaya> Totally normal things going on here https://shadowkat.net/tmp/04d9.jpg
L84[15:37:23] <SporkWitch> POV Darth Kerbal lol
L85[15:38:57] <Izaya> Also, definitely going to take an extra tank of LF now that I've tried this thing, two landings and two flags on my first Mun mission of this save
L86[15:39:16] <SporkWitch> damn
L87[15:39:33] <Izaya> Conveniently enough, a full refill is exactly the size of a LF-12-200 tank
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L89[15:46:57] <Izaya> mfw I just lost two hours of my life refining the design of a lander that contains all of half a dozen pieces
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L92[16:13:44] <raptop> !mission
L93[16:13:44] <LunchBot> Feeling too impatient to aerobrake, you decide to lithobrake. Supernovy explodes, emitting all kinds of deadly radiation.
L94[16:14:03] <raptop> That somehow escalated
L95[16:14:07] <Izaya> oops I accidentally designed Talos 1 https://shadowkat.net/tmp/b085.jpg
L96[16:14:44] <SporkWitch> it's very round
L97[16:15:11] <Izaya> Hemisphere fuel tanks are the lowest part count way to taper off the 1.875m crew compartment
L98[16:15:47] <Izaya> Plus, it's a Look and I enjoy it :3
L99[16:17:49] <SporkWitch> wasn't criticizing, just observing :)
L100[16:18:22] <SporkWitch> i'm having fun with the procedural parts. HECS or OCTO with matching batteries and tanks looks really spiffy
L101[16:19:15] <Mat2ch> Uh, have you heard about SUSIE?
L102[16:19:21] <SporkWitch> negative
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L108[17:03:17] <Mat2ch> https://www.reddit.com/r/esa/comments/xho5bz/arianegroup_announces_reusable_space_vehicle/
L109[17:03:20] <Mat2ch> SUSIE
L110[17:03:32] <Mat2ch> https://www.universetoday.com/157666/is-europe-building-its-own-starship-not-exactly/
L111[17:03:48] <SporkWitch> kind of neat
L112[17:04:06] <SporkWitch> wouldn't mind seeing the x-33 get some love, though
L113[17:04:26] <Mat2ch> still the second stage is wasted.
L114[17:04:48] <SporkWitch> with SUSIE?
L115[17:05:30] <FLHerne> yes
L116[17:19:51] * raptop presses F to pay respects to linear aerospikes
L117[17:24:10] <Althego> hehe
L118[17:24:16] <Althego> or any aerospike
L119[17:24:24] <Althego> somehow it is just never worth it
L120[17:25:06] <Althego> maybe it will be something like the electric pump on the rutherford engine, people avoid it until somebody made it, an adter that it became popular
L121[17:25:31] <SporkWitch> more complicated design, more things to go wrong. Just easier to do multiple stages. I would be curious to see an attempt at variable bells; the space shuttle kind of did it, but not by a massive amount.
L122[17:26:15] <SporkWitch> people have made aerospikes, they're just complicated. also harder to gimble
L123[17:26:24] <darsie> some tap off cycles emerged, too.
L124[17:26:41] <SporkWitch> Firefly uses that, doesn't it?
L125[17:26:46] <darsie> yeah
L126[17:27:04] <darsie> Tim talked about it.
L127[17:30:31] <SporkWitch> pretty cool that they're letting him run their stream
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L132[18:48:43] <funkenstein> ;mission ad You add some aerospikes just for the hell of it.,
L133[18:48:43] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "ad You add some aerospikes just for the hell of it.,".
L134[18:48:59] <funkenstein> ;mission add You add some aerospikes just for the hell of it.
L135[18:48:59] <LunchBot> Added mission: You add some aerospikes just for the hell of it.
L136[18:59:31] <raptop> . o O ("random" name generator that gives you demons as kerbals)
L137[19:00:52] <raptop> On an unrelated note, it's possible to equip a plane with 452 missiles in Project Wingman (MG-29 with STDM, MLAA, MLAG)
L138[19:01:38] <SporkWitch> sounds like the magic a-10 in arma3, with its infinite ammo and minute-long bursts lol
L139[19:02:07] <raptop> heh
L140[19:09:02] <SporkWitch> hmm... i should go to the mun or minmus, but i know as soon as i return i'll have a contract to do exactly that... lol
L141[19:22:02] <Pinkbeast> Seems legit, the doomguy can run around with 100 rockets in his backpack
L142[19:36:02] <SporkWitch> hmmm, overbuilt my transfer stage and/or upper stage... i might have enough ΔV to land this thing when it was only meant to be an orbiter lol
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L152[20:26:50] <SporkWitch> wellp, did have enough fuel, but no way to keep it upright, and i couldn't wiggle it into an angle that would let me lift off without exploding; oh well, good thing i made a quicksave before deorbiting lol
L153[20:42:56] <darsie> I played KSP again and landed a non minimalistic "station" on the Mun: https://i.ibb.co/X7Ff7R8/screenshot619.png
L154[20:44:46] <darsie> 8 m/s left :)
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L156[21:53:07] <umaxtu> looks like you can cut back on the propellant next time
L157[21:57:00] <SporkWitch> went the opposite, i still got enough to get the 1-3 pod, so i scaled up and added legs lol
L158[21:59:30] <SporkWitch> i've also learned to embrace "moar boosters," so in the absence of a good transfer stage engine at 2.5m, i used a plate and stuck two cheetahs on it
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L161[22:10:35] <SporkWitch> apparently the replica falcon legs don't have ground tether...
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L163[22:58:54] <SporkWitch> very interesting. Talking mostly about weapons, but for obvious reasons it's also relevant to reactors and NTRs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uIPQBOCJ64
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