L5[01:25:05] <funkenstein> ;mission

L6[01:25:05] <LunchBot> You meet Scott Manley. Steam sets fire to your home folder.

L7[01:26:34] <funkenstein> ;mission

L8[01:26:34] <LunchBot> You attach a retroencabulator to your payload. B787_300 explodes, emitting all kinds of deadly /kick's.

L14[02:04:38] <Tank2333> ;lunch

L15[02:04:38] <LunchBot> Collops.

L16[02:04:48] <Tank2333> ;lunch

L17[02:04:49] <LunchBot> Pie and chips.

L19[02:04:58] <Tank2333> ill take the first

L32[04:01:49] <funkenstein> I'll take both, I'm hungry

L33[04:01:53] <funkenstein> lol

L35[04:36:07] <SporkWitch> not kerbal or space, but if anyone was a fan of the band The Offspring, their former drummer just killed it on a new track, just released half an hour ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfvaUwWi2k

L39[05:04:32] <Althego> the guy with the beanie looks like tim pool (youtuber)

L40[05:04:46] <Althego> oh wait, it is tim pool

L41[05:04:53] <SporkWitch> yeah, it literally is lol

L43[05:55:46] <funkenstein> lol he was the drummer for the offspring?!

L44[05:57:48] <Althego> no

L45[05:57:50] <Althego> Written and performed by Tim Pool. Arranged, recorded, programmed, produced, mixed and mastered by Carter Banks. Drums written, recorded and processed by Pete Parada.

L46[05:58:19] <SporkWitch> the drummer was the drummer for the offspring. the vocalist in the beanie is Tim Pool. He's a journalist, though he's been singing and playing guitar for fun for years (and has made money busking before)

L50[06:44:18] <funkenstein> I'm familiar with pool

L51[06:44:30] <funkenstein> I had only heard the offspring so I was like whaat

L56[09:27:18] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OLAx3hQ-DA Starbase Update with F-22 Raptor flight show

L59[10:13:39] <Mat2ch> Did I understand this Starlink and T-Mobile announcement correctly? They want to add 5G to the starlink satellites and make connections over 400 km?!

L63[11:06:33] <SporkWitch> at least the F-22's stopped asphyxiating their pilots... lol

L64[11:07:50] <SporkWitch> I'll have to catch up on the announcement, but my assumption would be using starlink for backhaul, NOT individual mobile phone connectivity. Makes it so you just need a tower, antenna, and power, no longer dependent on local data infrastructure.

L65[11:14:24] <Mat2ch> I've read several announcements now and they all say phone to sat

L66[11:14:33] <Mat2ch> 2 to 4 MBit/s connection

L67[11:14:47] <SporkWitch> Hmm. *checks what band 5G uses*

L68[11:15:03] <Mat2ch> Crazy stuff

L69[11:16:16] <Mat2ch> (on the other hand this means your smartphone is a world wide tracking device.

L70[11:16:19] <Mat2ch> )

L71[11:17:35] <SporkWitch> I'm rusty, but even with their low orbit, it feels like the atmospheric attenuation would be too great... 5G does include soem bands used in satcom, but even irridiums need that giant dong to send/receive.

L72[11:19:49] <SporkWitch> lower orbit DOES mean stronger signal strength on the ground most of the losses are atmospheric, though.

L73[11:20:29] <Mat2ch> It's almost half the orbit, yes

L74[11:24:18] <SporkWitch> for perspective, the only reason GPS works with such tiny receivers is because it's basically just a timestamp and an id. Cell phones actually use the cell towers themselves to help, because their GPS receivers are insufficient to get a good, reliable fix (this is usually referred to as "assisted GPS")

L75[11:25:43] <SporkWitch> lol, just puleld up the stream from last night and my first thought is "oh, the blade song" lol

L76[11:27:39] <Mat2ch> Hm, 600-700 MHz are the low bands.

L77[11:27:53] <Mat2ch> but, hm

L78[11:28:27] <Mat2ch> I have no idea how to calculate how much power it needs to get a decent signal to a 450 km target...

L79[11:28:45] <SporkWitch> lol, and now beastie boys "intergalactic," because of course. presentation hasn't even started and it's already highly entertaining haha

L80[11:30:14] <SporkWitch> i am glad it's tmobile, though; they're honestly the only major consumer telecom I've encountered that isn't really evil. My only complaint with them is actually their competence. Every time I figured out a way to circumvent their tethered data cap it would only take them a couple weeks, a month tops, to fix it lol

L81[11:37:09] <Althego> leet time

L82[11:41:31] <SporkWitch> semi-random: can anyone recommend any decent resources for an ADVANCED user going from linux to OSX? Wanting to minimize my learning curve when the new job starts Monday and they're not sending the setup instructions until that morning, so even though the macbook is arriving today I can't use the weekend to fiddle with it

L83[11:41:53] <SporkWitch> everything i'm finding is "this is how you turn it on" level stuff for luddites heh

L84[11:43:22] <Mat2ch> T-Mobile not evil... I'm not so sure.

L85[11:44:13] <Althego> hehe, good luck with that

L86[12:07:19] <Azander> SporkWitch: which distro?

L87[12:07:52] <SporkWitch> i've mostly used KDE if I need a GUI

L88[12:08:03] <SporkWitch> primarily debian or kubuntu

L89[12:09:00] <Azander> id you need (relativly) simple and up and running right away I'd suggest one the Mont distros. They have a mac-like onme.

L90[12:09:38] <SporkWitch> nonono, other way around lol

L91[12:09:53] <Azander> as for learning, I leatnrf form teh man pages. everything I could fine on the internet (decades ago) was the hot to get started stuff :(

L92[12:10:11] <SporkWitch> Been using UNIX and Linux since the 90's, but haven't touched a Mac SINCE the 90's. Work gave me choice of Macbook or Thinkpad, so anything's better than windows lol

L93[12:10:30] <Azander> ahhhh

L94[12:10:37] <Azander> going TO Mac.

L95[12:11:16] <Azander> well, get used to everything being controlled by Apple, and make sure to guard your appleID as if it was your banking info

L96[12:11:17] <SporkWitch> yeah lol. Thus the difficulty, since most of the stuff i've been finding is for total noobs that barely know how to turn the thing on. I don't need basic interaction with a GUI, I need to get in the weeds lol

L97[12:11:38] <SporkWitch> don't think apple id will be a factor here since it'll be joined to the company's AD domain

L98[12:12:06] <Azander> The good news about mac OS is that is is Darwin based. Darwin is based on BSDUnix\

L99[12:12:24] <Azander> no, it will be an issue

L100[12:12:43] <Azander> apple links EVERYTHING to it. and I do mean everything

L102[12:13:23] <Azander> it may be an appleID on your companie's AD but it still needs to be guarded like it was your bank account

L103[12:13:51] <Azander> I admin nearly 50 MAcs. IT is a nightmare

L104[12:14:08] <SporkWitch> gotcha

L105[12:14:13] <SporkWitch> well, that's what lastpass is for :P

L106[12:14:29] <Azander> ranging from osX 10.4 to the newest 12.5

L108[12:14:59] <SporkWitch> i'm assuming the current macbook pros are Parallels-friendly?

L109[12:15:00] <Azander> how much you can do will also depend on hjow locked doen teh machine is, by your company admins

L110[12:15:21] <Azander> I belive so. We don't run parallales

L111[12:15:27] <SporkWitch> yeah, not sure about that yet. It's a security company, and in my experience they usually give their techs a fair bit of leeway, but we'll see.

L112[12:15:56] <Azander> gotta riun, time to head for work :(

L113[12:16:01] <SporkWitch> VMs are handy for testing and reproducing customer issues, especially when successful reproduction leaves things broken heh

L114[12:16:05] <SporkWitch> o/

L123[16:56:36] <funkenstein> ;mission

L124[16:56:37] <LunchBot> You attempt to build a hype plane. You are filled with determination.

L125[16:56:42] <funkenstein> ;lunch

L126[16:56:42] <LunchBot> An arbitrary colloid (try !colloid)

L127[17:22:30] <Althego> kikkerikii

L128[18:14:08] <raptop> .

L131[19:53:38] <FLHerne> ;mission add Gravity sucks so you turn it off.

L132[19:53:38] <LunchBot> Added mission: Gravity sucks so you turn it off.

L136[21:21:02] <funkenstein> ;mission

L137[21:21:02] <LunchBot> Someone asks for your help on #kspofficial, but you are unable to aid them in their quest. A rogue M comes out of nowhere, smacking into you.

L138[21:25:11] <SporkWitch> a rogue Xenon M? :P