L3[01:20:02] <umaxtu> man, maintaining multiple KSP installs sure makes me wish that NTFS was copy-on-write

L17[03:26:55] <SporkWitch> umaxtu: btrfs is sufficiently stable for home use and has been for some time (still some potential issues with RAID5, though it has native RAID0, RAID1, and RAID10 support). KSP also runs natively on linux. Only mod I've encountered issues with was dockingcam, and he managed to fix that.

L18[03:27:15] <SporkWitch> (in case it wasn't sufficiently implied, btrfs does COW by default)

L19[03:28:14] <SporkWitch> that said, i'm not sure how COW would help you there. What you need is something with deduplication; file-level should be sufficient, but block-level would of course be ideal.

L21[03:55:12] <funkenstein> ;mission add You attempt laxative calculus.

L22[03:55:12] <LunchBot> Added mission: You attempt laxative calculus.

L29[06:14:41] <Izaya> btrfs is <3

L30[06:15:56] <Izaya> especially for KSP, compression helps a little but the real gain is the fact that I can make reflinked copies for multiple instances

L31[06:16:33] <Izaya> SporkWitch: what was the issue with dockingcam? installed it but it didn't work so I removed it and kept going with DPAI

L45[12:11:50] <funkenstein> ;mission

L46[12:11:50] <LunchBot> You discover a form of rat on Dres. You are filled with deuterium.

L47[12:12:08] <funkenstein> ;lunch

L48[12:12:09] <LunchBot> Red onion with straberry jam ( https://i.imgur.com/d984jH6.png )

L49[12:12:27] <funkenstein> needs garlic

L50[12:13:31] <funkenstein> ;lunch add Everything bagel with garlic, cream cheese, kippered salmon, apricot jelly, and spicy chili powder

L51[12:13:31] <LunchBot> Added lunch: Everything bagel with garlic, cream cheese, kippered salmon, apricot jelly, and spicy chili powder

L52[13:17:38] <umaxtu> SporkWitch: yeah, btrfs is awesome. thats what I use on my laptop

L53[13:26:45] <SporkWitch> Izaya: it needed one of the files replaced, something he did to generate the visuals only liked windows, so all you got in-game was a solid colour on the window

L54[13:57:34] <Izaya> is it in the thread somewhere?

L55[14:06:12] <SporkWitch> not sure. if you're still running into it, it sounds like he didn't integrate it into the main release.

L56[14:07:38] <SporkWitch> i don't see an issue on the repo, so can't remember how i contacted him

L57[14:09:58] <SporkWitch> nm, was looking at the wrong repo https://github.com/linuxgurugamer/DockingCam/issues/25#issuecomment-1013977252

L58[14:10:44] <SporkWitch> nm, guess we didn't fix it before i had to go back to windows for something else

L59[14:34:17] <funkenstein> ;mission

L60[14:34:17] <LunchBot> You outsource the assembly of your rockets to a group of garden gnomes on steroids. goo for the goo god.

L61[14:36:35] <Izaya> >"linux"gurugamer

L62[14:36:40] <Izaya> > play and test on windows

L63[14:36:53] <SporkWitch> i've pointed out the irony many times

L64[14:37:13] <Izaya> not even the worst disappointment in such situations q_q

L65[14:37:59] <Izaya> ah well, will poke at it later

L66[14:38:04] <SporkWitch> i'm trying to figure out how best to start my first colony... i'm buidling the first construction ship now. one of my mods adds caterpillar tracks, which I think will prove useful

L67[14:38:13] <Izaya> I wish I could write TSRs for KOS

L68[14:38:29] <SporkWitch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/1008021700073496676/unknown.png

L69[14:38:37] <Izaya> I want a message handler that runs on boot but doesn't stop me doing stuff

L70[14:46:00] <packbart> that's an interesting bulldozer/construction workshop

L71[14:46:34] <funkenstein> caterpillar tracks seem useful, if only you could make custom sizes

L72[14:47:36] <funkenstein> not like scale tweaking, but custom placement of the wheels within and therefore the angles that the edges meet at

L73[14:47:44] <funkenstein> I'm sure that was poorly worded

L74[14:48:07] <SporkWitch> packbart: it's just the basic mobile workshop from the ground construction mod, and some tracks from another mod; nothing else attached yet, just wanted to see how well they worked, and i'm pretty impressed. it's smart enough to rotate in place without reaction wheels, and it was stable on the small hills west of the KSC at 20m/s

L75[14:48:52] <SporkWitch> funkenstein: tweakscale is supported, but it's the standard all-at-once scaling, not specific dimensions

L76[14:50:03] <SporkWitch> there's a decent variety of tracks in the mod, the ones in the image just seemed the obvious choice

L77[14:51:01] <SporkWitch> i need to figure out what i actually need to start building, though. this is one of the big things i'm hoping they make easier in KSP2, because as good as the stuff in Ground Construction and MKS are, they're very kludgy and convoluted.

L78[15:07:43] <funkenstein> I still haven't figured out how to use the motors, for either vtols or wheels

L79[15:15:49] <SporkWitch> wheels just work, badly, but they work; don't need to mess with the motor stuff. for VTOL, that one's a nightmare. IRL, everything we have that does it is fly-by-wire with advanced flight computers to automatically balance the craft. Prior to that technology, all attempts at such, especially tilt-rotors like the Osprey, were incredibly difficult to fly and were basically death traps (and that's

L80[15:15:56] <SporkWitch> with experts designing them and flying them)

L83[16:13:33] <funkenstein> ;mission add You go a little crazy with the moving parts

L84[16:13:33] <LunchBot> Added mission: You go a little crazy with the moving parts

L86[17:10:42] <darsie> funkenstein: Did you mean my hexapod?

L87[17:11:19] <darsie> 12 servos

L90[18:33:21] <XXCoder> ;mission

L91[18:33:22] <LunchBot> You outsource the assembly of your rockets to Ohio. Someone accidentally triggers modcall and you get banned.

L92[18:34:16] <XXCoder> I guess im still waiting for ohio make parts as thats entire solar systems away, assuming its in same galaxy or universe

L93[18:34:42] <Pinkbeast> Dear CKAN, while in other respects I appreciate what you do, I am not sure I believe you when you say I have played this game instance for 1.6 hours

L95[19:25:59] <FLHerne> XXCoder: no, KSP is our future, after the zombie apocalypse and the Planet Shrinking Ray

L96[19:26:06] <XXCoder> lol

L97[19:29:21] <SporkWitch> need a good apocalypse so the cats can finish taking over.

L98[19:36:37] <Althego> just play stray, the protagonist is a cat

L99[19:36:48] <Althego> after humans died out

L100[19:37:08] <SporkWitch> been thinking about giving it a shot lol

L101[19:42:59] <raptop> dedicated meow button

L102[19:49:19] <SporkWitch> clear necessity

L105[22:37:08] <funkenstein> I did not, darsie, but I should like to see it.

L106[22:37:51] <darsie> .

L107[22:38:35] <funkenstein> que?

L108[22:38:50] <funkenstein> the hexapod

L109[22:39:21] <SporkWitch> *heptapod

L111[22:39:26] <SporkWitch> (Arrival was a very underrated movie)

L116[23:00:07] <SporkWitch> spent most of today reading instead of playing and i've come to the conclusion I'm just doing things all wrong lol. Much simpler to use the WOLF stuff for most of this, and focus on the MKS stuff in space only, not on the surface. It's also basically immune to the kraken, since once landed, it "poofs" and is simulated in the background without having physical models anymore