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L1[00:28:24] <raptop> Hah
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L4[00:59:50] <funkenstein> ;mission
L5[00:59:51] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You
fall asleep during your rocket launch. Scolar_Visari no longer
recognizes you as a Son (and/or Daughter) of Kerbin.
L6[01:00:00] <funkenstein> ;mission
L7[01:00:01] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You try
your newly discovered "flubber" as a different form of
lithobraking. You break math.
L8[01:00:13] <funkenstein> seems about
right
L9[01:00:40] <SporkWitch> Mat2ch: das
keyboard 4q, so yeah, i'm leaning towards the keyboard; gskill
isn't known for shoddy work and the memory's only been in use for
just over a year. too much of a coincidence we'll see, though.
worst case i return the keyboard and just get another 4 pro (what i
replaced; enter and spacebar were starting to go, with enter
randomly doing double-activations, and spacebar randomly not
L10[01:00:43] <SporkWitch>
activating)
L11[01:01:05] <SporkWitch> funkenstein:
that 113 join is probably due to a netsplit
L12[01:01:36] <funkenstein> what's a
netsplit?
L14[01:02:01] <funkenstein> excuse my
techno-twitdom
L15[01:02:51] <raptop> IRC's
decentralization occasionally has quirks
L16[01:02:55] <SporkWitch> basically, one
of the servers in this IRC network lost connection to one or more
of the others, resulting in the users on the isolated segments
seeing the other disconnect. once the server rejoins th network,
you see it as a join
L17[01:03:19] <SporkWitch> and i can
confirm there was a netsplit earlier today
L18[01:03:44] <funkenstein> cool
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L22[01:22:27] <packbart> in today's game
lingo: "instancing problems" ;)
L23[01:22:46] <funkenstein> not sure what
that means either
L24[01:22:47] <SporkWitch> not sure that's
an accurate comparison, since instances are largely isolated
L25[01:23:10] <funkenstein> I have 282
science from around the KSC. is that the most i can get?
L26[01:23:30] <SporkWitch> if an instance
crashes, those players are completely disconnected; in a netsplit,
the users on either side of the split can continue to communicate,
they just can't talk across the split
L27[01:23:33] <packbart> yeah, it was kinda
a lame joke. I had just read some article about peer2peer game
synchronization earlier
L28[01:23:55] <funkenstein> that makes
sense
L29[01:23:58] <SporkWitch> oh, you mean
"please lagswitch" games?
L30[01:24:23] <funkenstein> unless you're a
mathematician, in which case it's trivial
L31[01:24:47] <packbart> nah, the
difference in realities experienced by players when things move
faster than the protocol can sync them
L32[01:24:58] <funkenstein> ;outcome add
Your craft becomes completely entangled in the Quantum
L33[01:24:58] <LunchBot> funkenstein: Added
outcome: Your craft becomes completely entangled in the
Quantum
L34[01:25:04] <SporkWitch> i don't recall
the total amount of science you can get from around the KSC, but
there's a LOT of biomes, you can probably get a couple thousand on
default settings
L35[01:25:22] <packbart> like in GTA V,
players in the same car can see the car crashing through a light
pole and not at the same time
L36[01:25:56] <packbart> or Elite where one
pilot sees someone hit a target and another pilot sees the same
shots go astray
L37[01:25:59] <funkenstein> packbart like
when I'm playing COD and I clearly shot someone twice in the head
but their killcam shows me facing the other direction still
L38[01:26:14] <SporkWitch> GTAV is probably
a poor example. It uses servers, AFAIK, but allows some desync to
make driving playable
L39[01:26:47] <SporkWitch> GTAV is also
just weird and buggy sometimes lol
L40[01:26:51] <packbart> it depends on the
server, I think. I only played the FiveM stuf, not GTA V
Online
L41[01:27:13] <packbart> and that one is
supposed to use some sort of p2p sync and chooses a
"master" peer
L42[01:27:51] <packbart> sooo... which
method will KSP 2 use for multi-player? :)
L43[01:27:58] <SporkWitch> foiled, don't
have the gta5 clip uploaded to youtube lol. i have a great one
where i'm driving on a clear, straight road and my car just
randomly leaps into the air and does a bunch of flat spins
lol
L44[01:30:09] <SporkWitch> packbart: KSP2
multiplayer will be kraken-powered
L46[01:34:53] <SporkWitch> packbart: ... i
demand all those hours of my life back lol
L47[01:35:55] <SporkWitch> i will also
never stop being entertained by the fact that linuxgurugamer
doesn't use linux
L49[01:40:29] <SporkWitch> at least it's
not a human one...
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L52[02:32:08] <SporkWitch> hmmm, think it
might actually e the software itself; killed the application to
manage the keyboard and astroneer hasn't crashed since... was
consistently crashing within 5-10 minutes
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L56[03:35:49] <packbart> "Used to be
moderately buggy, now feels extremely buggy"
L57[03:35:56] <packbart> added to Steam
wishlist, anyway :)
L58[03:36:04] <SporkWitch> what game?
lol
L60[03:37:08] <packbart> the top negative
review for Astroneer on Steam
L61[03:37:13] <SporkWitch> ah
L62[03:37:25] <SporkWitch> i got it ages
ago, it's kind of fun, though not amazing
L63[03:37:36] <SporkWitch> i've just been
doing lots of game hopping, as nothing is really keeping me right
now
L64[03:38:52] <SporkWitch> you want great
reviews, read the ones for day of dragons lol. talk about a salty,
talentless dev. Dude replied to my review within an hour doing
exactly what all the criticism says: attacking the community, not
actually disproving any of the valid claims, etc. lol
L65[03:38:59] <SporkWitch> he keeps
flagging my review as spam, too haha
L66[03:39:36] <SporkWitch> (it's literally
just an asset flip scam; everything in the game is stock or
purchased, and there's no gameplay loop; it's built to take just
long enough to notice this to run out the refund timer)
L67[03:45:49] <SporkWitch> totally
different game type, but apparently new world is free this weekend
(not to keep; free to play 7-11 april, sale until 18 april)
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L70[03:59:18] <packbart> I occasionally
watched a streamer playing New World but he seems to have dropped
it pretty soon after release, not sure why
L71[04:00:01] <packbart> still 2k live
viewers on Twitch, so it's not dead
L72[04:00:50] <SporkWitch> i haven't played
it since launch week or so, though put in a lot of time in the
closed and open betas. It's fun, nothing spectacular, though. Main
issue was just not much to do unless you were into the pvp
territory control
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L88[06:00:52] <funkenstein> packbart the
centipede looks lovely, once I have wheels, how did you get the
joints to work? additionally, the mod looks fine but I don't know
how to mod nowthat i have the steam version
L89[06:13:49] <FLHerne> funkenstein: Have
you done the weird ones like the separate tracking station
antennas, the random patch of concrete and the flagpole?
L90[06:14:14] <FLHerne> (re KSC
science)
L92[06:15:02] <FLHerne> then surface
samples, EVA reports, Gravioli
L93[06:15:14] <packbart> and the joints are
unpowered hinges, I think
L94[06:15:15] <FLHerne> 282 is definitely
low
L95[06:16:15] <packbart> I'd also recommend
copying KSP to another directory and leave the Steam copy unmodded,
so an update to KSP won't break your current game if any of the
mods are not compatible yet
L96[06:16:21] <funkenstein> I think I've
done the random concrete "ksc, we're home"
L97[06:16:40] <funkenstein> thoguht abouit
the flagpole had no idea about the antennae
L98[06:16:53] <funkenstein> I have
CKAN
L99[06:17:00] <funkenstein> it works with
steam
L100[06:17:01] <funkenstein> ?
L101[06:17:16] <packbart> well, it works
with any directory where KSP is installed
L102[06:17:26] <packbart> (and can manage
multiple instances)
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L105[06:19:39] <funkenstein> 282 was with
only goo, thermometers, and barometers
L107[06:19:51] <FLHerne> there are a few
more arbitrary separate things, the wiki has a list
L108[06:19:57] <funkenstein> and of
course, eva reports and surface samples
L109[06:20:19] <packbart> and don't forget
to jump for the flying EVA report ;)
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L111[06:21:10] <funkenstein> ahh
L112[06:23:59] <funkenstein> I DON'T want
the community resource pack, fervently I don't, but CKAN doesn't
want me to install mechjeb or near future electrical without
it
L113[06:25:48] <funkenstein> furthermore I
have no idea how to copy KSP anywhere
L114[06:26:09] <funkenstein> I have a very
limited knnowledge of computers, it's my partner ho knows these
things
L115[06:26:16] <Izaya> you copy it from
~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program to
wherever you want
L116[06:27:23] <Izaya> or C:\Program
Files\whatever idk I don't use windows
L117[06:27:29] <Izaya> you can also use
CKAN to clone the instance
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L121[08:24:00] <funkenstein> I tried, made
things confusing, and deleted everything just to be safe
L122[08:34:10] <funkenstein> You discharge
your Friendship drive. For all the resultant horror, grief, and
pain, you put your differences behind you and try again. For
science. You monster.
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L124[09:27:24] <funkenstein> It's
time...to dock
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L126[09:46:36] <funkenstein> Now IT
IS
L128[09:47:03] <SporkWitch> (Ax-1 docking
with ISS in ~2 hours)
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L132[09:50:35] <SporkWitch> stream just
started, flayer
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L134[09:51:46] <flayer> which stream
L135[09:52:18] <flayer> ...are you telling
me you're peeing?
L136[09:52:27] <funkenstein> no we're
docking
L137[09:52:31] <funkenstein> peeing is
later
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L140[09:53:39] <flayer> oh, dragon
launch/
L141[09:54:51] <SporkWitch> launch was
yesterday; docking with ISS this morning
L142[09:55:13] <SporkWitch> they're going
over the rendesvous and approach plan right now; they're so much
safer than kerbals lol
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L144[09:55:46] <SporkWitch> KSP
rendesvous: 0.1km? PERFECT! *suicide rendesvous at 100m/s*
L145[09:56:27] <funkenstein> lol
L146[09:56:32] <flayer> they're being
overly cautious imo
L147[09:56:41] <flayer> although i don't
blame them
L148[09:57:04] <SporkWitch> it only takes
one screwup and the entire program is gone, so yeah
L149[09:57:11] <SporkWitch> they're not
expendable, like kerbals heh
L150[10:04:07] <funkenstein> what are the
lights we're looking aat
L151[10:04:32] <funkenstein> looks like
led's on a string
L152[10:04:32] <SporkWitch> i would assume
the camera is at the ISS and we're looking at the dragon
capsule
L153[10:04:38] <funkenstein> ah
L154[10:04:47] <funkenstein> wobbly, isn't
it
L155[10:05:01] <SporkWitch> my reasoning
being the lower quality camera, and the positioning of the
navigation lights
L156[10:05:23] <SporkWitch> it's VERY
zoomed in lol
L157[10:05:33] <SporkWitch> and yep, that
was confirmation, we're looking at the dragon, so that camera is on
the ISS
L158[10:10:20] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: you
could have just replaced the switches :D
L159[10:11:04] <funkenstein> what is that
jerking, the camera panning?
L160[10:11:17] <SporkWitch> eh, second
switch failure within a month, and i'd had it for 5+ years, safe to
say it was only going to keep happening at that point
L161[10:11:20] <SporkWitch> funkenstein:
yes
L162[10:11:32] <SporkWitch> and it's as
jerky as it is because of how zoomed in it is
L163[10:11:56] <funkenstein> the
photographer in me feels the pain
L164[10:12:07] <SporkWitch> and now i have
pretty backlit keys, though it's definitely going to ttake some
getting used to these browns. feels VERY differnt from the blues
i'm used to
L165[10:12:50] <SporkWitch> i definitely
prefer the blues, but i can feel how it'll be easier to get rapid
presses with these browns, which i've been finding necessary for
Starbound, which i've been playing a fair bit of lately
L166[10:13:26] <funkenstein> what
L167[10:13:51] <SporkWitch> sorry, the
last two were for Mat2ch
L168[10:14:10] <funkenstein> may I ask
what you mean, though?
L169[10:14:16] <funkenstein>
blues/browns
L170[10:14:28] <SporkWitch> Cherry MX Blue
switches vs Cherry MX Brown switches.
L171[10:15:17] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: Oh,
well, then it was really time for a new one.
L172[10:15:26] <funkenstein> so they make
the keyboard more responsive?
L174[10:15:38] <Mat2ch> I have a keyboard
from Roccat and it is 10 years old. Longest lasting keyboard I've
ever had.
L175[10:15:47] <funkenstein> ( techno
twit, O'm inept)
L176[10:16:04] <Mat2ch> !mission
L177[10:16:04] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: In lieu
of launching, you begin lunching. You suffer a massive
headsplosion.
L178[10:16:06] <SporkWitch> do you spend a
minimum of 40 hours per week typing on it almost constantly?
L179[10:16:18] <SporkWitch> because i do,
and that's just for work lol
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L181[10:18:34] <funkenstein> lack of
clicky sounds nice
L182[10:19:17] <SporkWitch> it feels
really different; i like the blues
L183[10:19:31] <SporkWitch> but i wanted
the backlighting and so the browns were the only option
L184[10:21:26] *
flayer throws carrots at funkenstein
L185[10:22:07] <taniwha_> SporkWitch,
0.1km? too far. 0.0 }:>
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L187[10:22:30] <flayer> i'm just happy to
get within 2 km
L189[10:23:14] <flayer> and if its a super
fast encounter, i will correct burn based on the navball
L190[10:23:49] <flayer> otherwise i will
just look at the station and burn towards it before flipping
around
L191[10:26:57] <funkenstein> ;mission add
You attempt to eat a muffin in microgravity...
L192[10:26:57] <LunchBot> funkenstein:
Added mission: You attempt to eat a muffin in microgravity...
L193[10:27:58] <funkenstein> funkenstein
launches a variety of citrus at flayer
L194[10:30:11] <flayer> nice
L195[10:33:03] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: I do a
lot of typing as well... and gaming, too, which is rather abusive
;)
L196[10:33:13] <SporkWitch> yup
L197[10:33:22] <SporkWitch> why i wasn't
too surprised about getting the life i did out of it
L198[10:33:59] <Izaya> been thinking about
getting some kailh jades to go with the kit that's been sitting on
my desk for far too long >.>
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L200[10:36:02] <funkenstein> no response
from thew big loop
L201[10:36:09] <funkenstein> what do they
mean
L202[10:36:48] <SporkWitch> they're having
issues with the ship-to-ship comms
L203[10:37:02] <Mat2ch> also non-clicky
switches in keyboards are great. I once had a colleague who used an
old IBM keyboard. It always felt like a machine gun next to
me...
L204[10:37:14] <SporkWitch> the x-by-y
refers to loudness and clarity, on a 1-5 scale. 3/5 loudness, 3/5
clarity = 3x3
L205[10:37:24] <SporkWitch> they're
getting through fine when relaying through the ground station,
though
L206[10:37:50] <SporkWitch> Mat2ch: they
just don't feel right, i'm used to that extra "bite" when
typing
L207[10:38:01] <SporkWitch> these browns
feel "floaty"
L208[10:38:19] <funkenstein>
rakketytattetytat
L209[10:40:00] <funkenstein> the clouds
are gorgeous from this angle
L210[10:40:20] <Izaya> man that's a cool
shot, seeing the capsule pointing at the camera, between the camera
and the earth
L211[10:41:23] <funkenstein> cinematic, in
fact
L212[10:41:23] <Izaya> Gonna get some nice
wallpapers out of this one, I can feel it :D
L213[10:41:38] <funkenstein> I wish, I
don't know how to screenshot youtube
L214[10:41:52] <Izaya> no idea, I'm
watching in mpv
L215[10:42:00] <Izaya> but I meant with
proper cameras from inside the station
L216[10:42:07] <funkenstein> ah
L217[10:42:13] <Izaya> should end up on
nasa's site and flickr
L219[10:43:00] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: well,
you worked for years with the other keys. Probably just like a new
car
L220[10:43:16] <SporkWitch> a poopier car
:P
L221[10:44:26] <funkenstein> that's why
they're browns
L222[10:44:28] <funkenstein> lol
L224[10:45:32] <flayer> crazy stuff,
that
L225[10:45:46] <SporkWitch> it'sthe ISS's
cameras, they're old
L226[10:45:49] <Izaya> hence, wait for
photos from the station :p
L227[10:47:23] <funkenstein> just passed
over a lovely cumulonimbus
L228[10:47:25] <Izaya> even if they were
new and fancy they wouldn't be as good as captured stills,
streaming is bad for video quality
L229[10:47:32] <Izaya> I'd love this as a
wallpaper though
L230[10:47:33] <Izaya> :p
L231[10:49:06] <funkenstein> cirrocumulus
now
L232[10:51:03] <SporkWitch> it's because
they have navy on board; no clue how to operate a radio :P
L233[10:51:06] <flayer> i need to get a
telescope
L234[10:52:37] <funkenstein> so does the
navy
L235[10:54:08] <funkenstein>
cheeeese
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L237[11:04:40] <SporkWitch> wow, she's not
very bright... she thinks a nitrogen-oxygen mix is synonymous with
nitrousoxide... colloquially known as laughing gas...
L238[11:08:01] <Althego> also nitrogen
oxygen mix is almost the same as air
L239[11:08:07] <Althego> why not just call
it air?
L240[11:08:28] <SporkWitch> because it's
specifically a nitrogen-oxygen mix, without all the other crap in
air
L241[11:08:48] <Althego> which is mostly a
bit of argon so who cares
L242[11:09:05] <SporkWitch> i'd guess with
a higher percentage of oxygen than normal, just enough nitrogen to
minimize fire hazard, for mass reasons
L243[11:10:12] <SporkWitch> nonetheless,
it's a distinction, and as i said, i doubt it's the usualy 78/21
mix
L244[11:11:22] <SporkWitch> not having any
luck finding the proportions
L245[11:14:28] <funkenstein> as orville
said to wilbur
L246[11:14:35] <funkenstein> you're
wright\
L247[11:21:25] <Althego> argh
L248[11:22:54] <Izaya> so I was thinking
about NTRs earlier today and I ended up wondering, for long trips
with a NTR, would having a small LH2 tank for feeding the engine
(sized for the longest burn you want to perform), an
electrolysis(?) machine, running off the standby power generation
of the nuclear reactor, and a big water tank for splitting into H2
and O2 - both as volatile/fuel storage, and as
L249[11:22:56] <Izaya> radiation shielding
- work?
L250[11:28:26] <funkenstein> I don't see
why not
L252[11:37:57] <flayer> i don't like how
the top only has one hinge
L253[11:38:09] <flayer> i want it to be 4
different bits
L254[11:38:18] <flayer> or at least
two
L255[11:38:22] <SporkWitch> water is
extremely good at blocking radiation. It's one of the reasons it's
used for nuclear reactors, also the reason for the design choice in
Robinson's "Red Mars" of having the water tanks
surrounding a core module for use as a solar storm shelter
L256[11:38:42] <SporkWitch> flayer: more
parts = more points of failure
L257[11:38:54] <flayer> i know but i dont
care
L258[11:39:04] <flayer> is water better or
worse than lead at blocking radiation?
L259[11:39:27] <SporkWitch> worse than
lead, but lead is very heavy and serves no other practical
use
L260[11:39:30] <flayer> it is probably a
cost vs efficiency vs availability thing?
L261[11:39:53] <SporkWitch> the benefit of
water is that you need to bring it anyway, so if you design with it
as part of your shielding, you're saving significant mass
L262[11:40:10] <Izaya> Is it safe to drink
if it's used as a radiation shield?
L263[11:40:19] <SporkWitch> yes
L264[11:40:28] <Izaya> I know it's used in
the skin as shielding for radiation from space but that's a rather
different usecase :p
L265[11:40:53] <SporkWitch> stuff doesn't
"become" radioactive by exposure to radiation,
radiaoactive PARTICLES can get mixed with it. As long as the water
never comes in physical contact with radioactive material, it's
perfectly safe to drink
L266[11:40:56] <Izaya> (or rather, often
PLANNED for use between the inner and outer hull, I don't think
anything's actually flown with that setup)
L267[11:41:26] <taniwha> SporkWitch, not
true: neutron activation
L268[11:41:26] <Izaya> ah okay
L269[11:43:35] <SporkWitch> cursory search
implies that cannot occur by accident; conditions required outside
of a lab, you're not worrying about that anymore lol
L270[11:45:51] <SporkWitch> in fact, i'm
not finding any mention or example of it occurring under natural
conditions (I would assume there's some edge cases where it could
occur, but I suspect these conditions would also kill anyone that
might later care if their food or water were made radioactive).
What I'm finding also suggests that half lives of seconds are more
common, though it does mention years as possible
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L274[11:52:34] <SporkWitch> very much not
a significant concern. quantities negligible, and that seems to
indicate it only produces beta waves, which explains why they
literally just vent it
L275[11:53:11] <SporkWitch> per your
source, C-14 is literally what we use for radiocarbon dating, we
expect to find it in everything lol
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L277[12:02:13] <Izaya> the fact that this
is getting held up by video issues is very 2020/2021
L278[12:04:37] <darsie> It's not in fossil
fuels.
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L281[12:28:51] <Althego> must have been an
incorrect sdp :)
L282[12:43:19] <SporkWitch> i blame the
nitrousoxide she was breathing :P
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L286[13:10:07] <Althego> kikkerikii
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SporkWitch
L289[13:48:33] <SporkWitch> sup?
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L291[14:12:21] <SporkWitch> the radio
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L304[18:37:57] <funkenstein>
;mission
L305[18:37:58] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You
add tzatziki sauce to the reaction wheels. It is used by nefarious
porpoises.
L306[18:40:33] <umaxtu> tasty
L307[19:07:16] <FLHerne> ;mission add
Jeb's hibernation suit fails mere weeks into his return journey
from Eeloo. Through years of total isolation in the blackness
space, his mind is warped beyond recognition.
L308[19:07:16] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
mission: Jeb's hibernation suit fails mere weeks into his return
journey from Eeloo. Through years of total isolation in the
blackness space, his mind is warped beyond recognition.
L309[19:07:42] <FLHerne> ;mission fixup
s/blackness/blackness of/
L310[19:07:43] <LunchBot> FLHerne: New
text is: Jeb's hibernation suit fails mere weeks into his return
journey from Eeloo. Through years of total isolation in the
blackness of space, his mind is warped beyond recognition.
L311[19:07:46] <FLHerne> bleh
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L331[20:34:19] <darsie> "Kerbal Space
Program 2: Episode 5 - Interstellar Travel" says we'll get
time warp while burning. So, how about realistic thrust ion
thrusters?
L332[20:37:14] <UmbralRaptor>
hopefully!
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L334[20:46:20] <SporkWitch> looking
around, it seems the highest thrust (that I can find) for an ion
thruster is 4N. That said, that's also a much smaller one than the
Dawn in KSP. Dawn is 2kN, so still much more powerful, but in terms
of gameplay I feel like it's probably good. To do a realistic
implementation you'd be accelerating for the entire journey.
Usually when I hear about plans for ion thrusters for
distance
L335[20:47:09] <SporkWitch> missions the
plan is you accelerate to the halfway point and decelerate on the
second half. Very slow, but very efficient.
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L339[20:53:49] <darsie> SporkWitch: What's
that, VASMR? What Isp?
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L343[20:54:54] <SporkWitch> found a few
papers, but skimming them they didn't specify they thrust (or i
missed it) and i honestly didn't feel like doing the maths as i'm
really overtired lol
L344[20:55:16] <SporkWitch> i woke up
after only like 2 or 3 hours of sleep, which is the only reason i
was up in time to watch the rendesvous and docking this morning
lol
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L348[21:04:54] <darsie> 620 kg for
VASIMR
L349[21:09:02] <darsie> Dawn is 250
kg
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L363[23:16:48] <funkenstein> may I mention
something slightly un-space-related? there's nobody else aroung to
mention it to
L364[23:16:52] <funkenstein>
;mission
L365[23:16:52] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You
send Jeb to astronaut school to learn more about safety procedures.
Your reputation underflows, and suddenly the really nice contracts
are available again.
L366[23:17:03] <funkenstein>
;mission
L367[23:17:03] <LunchBot> funkenstein:
Your five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out
new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no Kerbal has
gone before. On your return the media is only interested in the
zero-G toilet.
L368[23:17:12] <funkenstein> figures
L369[23:25:26] <raptop> ...what is the
thing anyway?
L370[23:26:07] <darsie> It's mostly space
related.
L371[23:26:23] <darsie> Because it's just
slightly un-space-related.