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L2[01:02:21] <raptop> !mission
L3[01:02:21] <LunchBot> raptop: You hail the probe. Wernher von Kerman orders Bob to buy him a dozen brattwursts on the way back from the supermarket.
L4[01:02:45] <raptop> Not sure how that's related, but at least dinner will be good
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L15[03:21:33] <XXCoder> ;mission
L16[03:21:33] <LunchBot> XXCoder: You attempt to calculate longitude of ascending node by hand. The linux file manager starts on boot.
L17[03:21:59] <XXCoder> must have been pressing keyboard while writing solutions
L18[03:22:07] <XXCoder> its so rare to get a repeat...
L19[03:22:33] <XXCoder> raptop: sure its related, wernher von kerman is secretly a probe
L20[03:28:14] <raptop> Hm, because he's canonically german(ish), wernher will make the good kind of potato salad
L21[03:28:57] <raptop> (That is, the kind that's served hot, and uses vinegar and bacon. Not the kind that's served cold and uses mayonnaise)
L22[03:29:13] <umaxtu> now I want some of Schniyz's potato salad. so damn good
L23[03:30:06] <XXCoder> literally my last mission was: You attempt to calculate longitude of ascending node by hand. You miss your scheduled burn.
L24[03:30:25] <XXCoder> so its very rare repeat in row
L25[03:36:52] <raptop> nice
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L58[14:50:37] <funkenstein> ;missiin
L59[14:50:43] <funkenstein> ;mission
L60[14:50:43] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You embark on a journey to the toilet. Your name is cursed for generations.
L61[14:50:48] <funkenstein> ;mission
L62[14:50:49] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You attempt to research the entire tech tree with a single launch. Curiosity of tolerance levels leads to an untimely demise.
L63[14:50:58] <funkenstein> ;mission
L64[14:50:58] <LunchBot> funkenstein: Jetpack deorbit to Kerbin. Bob shows you how well he can play Wonderwall on guitar.
L65[14:51:05] <funkenstein> ;mission
L66[14:51:05] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You build a dual-purpose jetpack slash flamethrower. You learn for yourself the true cost of lies.
L67[14:51:17] <funkenstein> he'd bettter be playing it while deorbiting
L68[14:51:26] <funkenstein> ;mission
L69[14:51:26] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You bring the anti-mass spectrometer up to 105%. You realize that this will take a Poincare recursion time to complete.
L70[14:51:33] <funkenstein> ;mission
L71[14:51:33] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You perform gastric bypass surgery on the Deep Space Kraken. Then there was much rejoicing.
L72[14:51:42] <funkenstein> I'm sure\
L73[14:51:47] <funkenstein> ;mission
L74[14:51:47] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You try to publish a paper about how pigs are actually plants. The hatch is obscured.
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L80[16:30:07] <sandbox> ;mission
L81[16:30:07] <LunchBot> sandbox: 'Murica militarizes Pluto. In a strange twist of probability, people no longer die, regardless of the absurdity of their situation.
L82[16:39:22] <raptop> uh
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L85[17:13:16] <packbart> LunchBot does have a command to edit outcomes, doesn't it?
L86[17:13:17] <LunchBot> I am a bot operated by FLHerne. Try !{nextlunch,lunchmode,mission,outcome,stupid,colloid,colloid²,nextfrog,rocks,space!,nextbankruptcy,nextpinecone,nextyear,nextfire,banlist,wenhop,help} help.
L87[17:13:29] <packbart> "brattwurst" should definitely be "bratwurst" :)
L88[17:13:41] <packbart> !colloid²
L89[17:13:42] <LunchBot> packbart: Pasimnoket.
L90[17:13:58] <packbart> !nextbankruptcy
L91[17:13:58] <LunchBot> packbart: JP Aerospace.
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L97[18:26:27] <packbart> ooh, the screenshot simulator got carrier interiors. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/edc2.jpg
L98[18:27:43] <Althego> what is that, star citizen?
L99[18:28:45] <packbart> Elite Dangerous
L100[18:29:29] <Althego> havent played that for a while
L101[18:30:46] <packbart> I've got the carrier skin where the observation deck doesn't look out over the landing pads. hm. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/edc3.jpg
L102[18:31:11] <packbart> Althego: me neither. and they changed all the faces of my carrier crew!11 :(
L103[18:31:19] <Althego> heh
L104[18:31:20] <Althego> e
L105[18:35:31] <packbart> I guess they had to change the faces to fit the few available NPC models. My old crew had a lot more personality. Now they look more the same
L106[18:36:26] <packbart> ah well. any game, you win some new features and lose some old ones. and the bugs changed again ;)
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L114[22:23:05] <raptop> !mission blah
L115[22:23:05] <LunchBot> raptop: No mission found matching "blah".
L116[22:23:30] <raptop> !mission blåh
L117[22:23:31] <LunchBot> raptop: You suggest that IKEA replace their Blåhaj line with plush krakens.
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L119[22:24:57] <funkenstein> ;mission
L120[22:24:57] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You build a replica of an obscure craft that no one but you has ever heard of. You also discover that "Warp to dawn" and "Warp to Dawn" do two very different things.
L121[22:25:00] <funkenstein> ;mission
L122[22:25:00] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You search for buried treasure on Eve. This shouldn't be physically possible.
L123[22:25:02] <funkenstein> ;mission
L124[22:25:02] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You launch a small, unobservable teapot into a high orbit in order to definitively prove the existence of one. More struts are required.
L125[22:25:04] <funkenstein> ;mission
L126[22:25:04] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You attempt to port KSP to the Doom engine. kmath despairs at your choices and resets its database.
L127[22:25:35] <funkenstein> ;mission
L128[22:25:35] <LunchBot> funkenstein: You open a portal to Duna to recover the abandoned Union Aerospace Corporation facility. You accidentally call Laythe "Lethe" in a press conference, causing everyone to forget about going to space today.
L129[22:28:41] <raptop> You know that you can browse all of the missions/outcomes at https://www.flherne.uk/hacks/missions.txt and https://www.flherne.uk/hacks/outcomes.txt right?
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L133[22:37:21] <TheWikipedian> Hello!
L134[22:38:16] <darsie> .
L135[22:38:19] <TheWikipedian> i do not have manoeuvre planning yet but i want to go to the mun, how can i plan such a mission
L136[22:39:17] <darsie> Go to orbit and I think you can start your transfer burn when the Mun rises.
L137[22:39:51] <darsie> Getting maneuver planning is certainly a saner choice ;).
L138[22:41:03] <TheWikipedian> I am more interested in the mathematics to be honest
L139[22:41:31] <TheWikipedian> i could unlock manoeuvre planning but i want to learn how to do it by hand
L140[22:42:21] <UmbralRaptop> Ah, like phase angles?
L141[22:42:39] <TheWikipedian> i am not sure what that is
L142[22:44:05] <UmbralRaptop> The angle between you and the target when you do the transfer burn
L143[22:44:43] <UmbralRaptop> eg: for a kerbin-duna transfer, you want duna to be 44˚ ahead
L144[22:44:52] <TheWikipedian> yes, how is that calculated?
L145[22:46:14] <UmbralRaptop> Mostly by comparing periods of the initial orbit, target, and transfer orbit. I'll need to double check on the canned formula
L146[23:00:20] * raptop stabs google
L147[23:01:19] <raptop> Angle(in degrees) = 1440 (a_2 / (a_1+a_2))^3/2 if I did the math right
L148[23:01:29] <raptop> This is for an outwards transfer
L149[23:02:59] <raptop> a_1 is the semi-major axis of the initial orbit, and a_2 for the final orbit
L150[23:03:06] <UmbralRaptop> https://photos.app.goo.gl/h8gXXvYjHFPWs89U7
L151[23:06:04] <raptop> I want to say for an inwards transfer it ends up being θ(deg) == 1440 (a_1 / (a_1+a_2))^3/2
L152[23:06:15] <raptop> (ie: that one semi-major axis is flipped)
L153[23:06:45] <raptop> Also, I really don't trust that I didn't mess up a constant
L154[23:07:44] <raptop> Yeah, I'm pretty sure I did, because as a_2 becomes way larger than a_1, it should go to 90 degrees
L155[23:08:04] <raptop> bleah, 90 (a_2/(a_1+a_2))^(3/2)?
L156[23:14:38] * raptop pokes the channel a with a blåhaj
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L158[23:32:59] <raptop> bleah, algebra error and a conceptual error
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