L7[01:46:32] <raptop> ;outcome add You set a new record for maximizing Δv use.

L8[01:46:32] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: You set a new record for maximizing Δv use.

L9[01:47:17] <raptop> ;mission add You decide to solve your problems in Kerbal Excel Program by adding more spreadsheets.

L10[01:47:17] <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: You decide to solve your problems in Kerbal Excel Program by adding more spreadsheets.

L11[01:53:41] <bees> raptop: You do something that you've done before. This results in you creating a new OS, KUNIX, which becomes insanely popular and shapes the history of computing.

L13[01:58:09] <raptop> that's probably fine

L36[10:01:19] <darsie> .

L37[10:12:28] <bees> darsie: You speak the Discouraging Word. The skies cloud ominously. You suffer a massive headsplosion.

L58[16:49:38] <Mat2ch> Well, I've watched Don't Look Up today. The science is probably ok, but the launches, well...

L59[16:53:10] <sandbox> look down

L60[16:53:47] <Althego> never dig down

L61[16:54:28] <sandbox> don't dig too deep

L62[16:59:30] <SporkWitch> Don't Look Up is pretty great. As typical they basically got things backwards, but still pretty accurate in terms of how the government and media manipulate things. SOOOO many little easter eggs and nods, too. In the president's office, there's a picture of her hugging Bill Clinton. The tech mogul is obviously a mix of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. The tv show "Daily Rip," there's a reflection

L63[16:59:44] <SporkWitch> of the cup on the table that reads "lib"

L64[17:06:20] <Mat2ch> hrhr

L65[17:06:36] <Mat2ch> The tech guy has some parts of Musk and Bezos added, too

L66[17:06:53] <Mat2ch> the way he speaks is copied from Musk

L67[17:07:02] <SporkWitch> i can see it a little, but the strongest was definitely Bill Gates lol

L68[17:07:07] <Mat2ch> hrhr

L69[17:07:43] <SporkWitch> also, musk isn't totally evil and infinitely greedy, doesn't really fit character-wise, but i can see the bit of the mannerisms

L70[17:07:56] <Mat2ch> There is a German word with no translation, which fits in here pretty well: Technikgläubigkeit. The believe you can solve everything with complex technology

L71[17:08:04] <Mat2ch> well, the movie is full of it. :D

L72[17:08:24] <SporkWitch> aye

L73[17:08:49] <Mat2ch> You are true about Musk. But many people don't understand him and therefore presume he is evil

L75[17:09:35] <Mat2ch> But some parts of the movie were just dragging... the part where Grande is singing, totally unnecessary

L76[17:09:46] <SporkWitch> the part that cracks me up is that apparently the writer/director literally set out to make it as a portrayal of his feelings on climate change: that the word is literally ending in 10 years unless we act now, and anyone that just looks up could see it. Thing is, almost everything they did fits the other way around so much better, and all those little easter eggs only reinforce it (and make me

L77[17:10:06] <SporkWitch> think some of the crew agreed that he was projecting his own thing onto those telling him HE won't look up lol)

L78[17:10:34] <SporkWitch> eh, they paid for her, they wanted their money's worth, and it'd bring the kids in

L79[17:10:56] <SporkWitch> i totally respect her for being willing to play such a self-deprecating role, though

L80[17:11:08] <Mat2ch> I never will understand why people watch movies with some starlet in it... it's about the story and the acting, not the actors themselfs...

L81[17:11:40] <Mat2ch> The "mind your own business, old man" scene had me jelling :D

L82[17:12:46] <SporkWitch> i think my favourite was the son just getting abandoned and both his and hillary's reaction when they realize it lol

L83[17:12:59] <SporkWitch> and that mid-credits scene was just perfect lol

L84[17:13:18] <Mat2ch> the mid-credits scene was where they landed, right?

L85[17:13:35] <SporkWitch> yeah, and we find out what the [forget weird creature name] was lol

L86[17:13:51] <SporkWitch> as soon as i saw them landing i instantly knew they were going to answer that, but it was so perfect lol

L87[17:14:36] <Mat2ch> it was a bit cheesy.

L88[17:14:38] <SporkWitch> gimme a few, about to hit the atmosphere and find out if my new spaceplane can land

L89[17:14:55] <Mat2ch> Also it would've been fun if they landed on Earth again, because the AI decided there were no other planets. :D

L90[17:14:58] <SporkWitch> it made it to orbit with 1430 dV left

L91[17:15:06] <Mat2ch> Nice!

L92[17:15:35] <SporkWitch> yeah! and it has an isru and drill (the small ones, but still; i just couldn't get the TWR out of a mk3 >_<)

L93[17:16:05] <SporkWitch> room for a small (mk2) payload, and with that dV i THINK i can probably haul a small payload without adding SRBs

L94[17:16:24] <SporkWitch> 65km; back in a few

L95[17:16:35] <Mat2ch> I only once managed to built a working ssto space plane with the MK3 parts.

L96[17:16:47] <Mat2ch> It's just too heavy and has so much drag...

L97[17:19:03] <SporkWitch> RIP, not nearly enough control authority >_< lol

L98[17:22:31] <Mat2ch> oh noes

L99[17:22:37] <Mat2ch> That's the part I hated the most. :D

L100[17:22:45] <Mat2ch> Testing if my creations can land

L101[17:22:51] <Mat2ch> Hours and hours I've spent with testing

L102[17:23:19] <SporkWitch> so because i have so much fuel left, i was actually able to somewhat regain control, but because i didn't set up my fuel priorities right, my centre of mass is in the wrong place, that's why i couldn't keep the nose down lol

L103[17:24:56] <packbart> so, for spaceplane landings "don't look up" is good advice?

L104[17:25:16] <SporkWitch> aye lol

L105[17:25:33] <SporkWitch> so, remarkably, MOST of it survived splashdown... lol

L106[17:26:19] <Eddi|zuHause> guys... whenever i play early carrer i have the same problems... one of them: in an MK1 plane, i can have a cockpit with a pilot, and a crew cabin with a scientist. but there's no hatch where the scientist can exit and inspect/reset the experiments

L107[17:26:58] <SporkWitch> crew should have a hatch, but worst case, have pilot exit, transfer scientist to cockpit, have scientist exit

L108[17:27:38] <SporkWitch> i always forget, it is lowest number tank drains first?

L109[17:27:44] <Eddi|zuHause> the crew cabin has a hatch on the front and the back, but both of those are obstructed in a regular plane-shaped... plane

L110[17:29:02] <packbart> SporkWitch: highest number drains first

L111[17:30:02] <packbart> hm. unless I'm confusing myself...

L112[17:43:05] <SporkWitch> you were right, highest first

L114[17:57:13] <SporkWitch> hmmm, some slight changes and less than 1km of dV left once in orbit. still enough to get to minmus, though, and that's all that matters! lol

L115[18:15:24] <darsie> 1 km/s*

L116[18:24:18] <SporkWitch> you knew what i meant :P

L117[18:24:30] <SporkWitch> also, whee! successfully docked with my station!

L119[18:27:55] <SporkWitch> that accomplished, now to find out if i can land... lol

L121[18:59:02] <SporkWitch> packbart: so you were right about fuel priority, i just wasn't thinking right and so i set it backwards lol. I don't know why my brain said "drain from the front first" when the problem was not being able to keep the nose down on reentry lol

L122[18:59:37] <SporkWitch> caught it early enough in the descent i was able to pump fuel across, regain control, and landed on the runway. DID go off th end, but no damage and enough fuel to turn around and get back onto it lol

L123[18:59:50] <SporkWitch> gonna add a third speedbrake, i think

L128[19:07:30] <SporkWitch> with the rapier engines, is it the extra air from the shock cones at high speeds that increases their output, or is it actually coded as speed? Wondering if adding more intakes will get me more thrust. I have two shock cones feeding 6 rapiers, flameout around 20-25km

L129[19:08:34] <Althego> as long as there is enough air the intake doesnt matter. jets, unlike rockets in the game have two curves, one pressure, one speed

L130[19:08:47] <Althego> so the extra thrust is coming from the speed

L131[19:09:47] <raptop> ^

L132[19:10:21] <SporkWitch> well grr lol. would have been nice to squeeze a slightly steeper ascent out of it for better fuel use. oh well. Pretty happy with how this thing turned out. small ISRU and drill, an empty medium cargo bay for payload (though not tested with payload yet) and it gets to orbit with 1-1.5km/s deltaV left

L133[19:10:28] <Althego> you can even see it is intentionally so, it loses thrust before going supersonic, but after that it goes several times higher

L134[19:10:37] <SporkWitch> abysmal thrust due to only one nerv, but still

L145[23:25:46] <SporkWitch> got it up to 2.5km/s after reaching kerbin orbit. tiny bit more tweaking needed, i skimmed the atmosphere on the first orbit heh

L152[23:43:38] <SporkWitch> UmbralRaptor: you need a bouncer lol

L153[23:44:29] <raptop> Definitely for my phone

L154[23:44:55] <raptop> ...which would mean either setting it up on one of those 32bit raptops I have lying around or buying a raspi or something

L155[23:45:34] <SporkWitch> raspis make excellent bouncers, and raspi4 has the oomph to even serve well as a plex server (though sadly HDDs draw too much power for me to run two of them over PoE)

L156[23:46:23] <SporkWitch> spent the day improving on my spaceplane. Current iteration can now get to orbit with 2.5km/s dV left and has small ISRU and drill on-board :)

L157[23:46:28] <raptop> \o/

L158[23:46:48] <SporkWitch> need to give it a tiny bit more oxidizer; i ended up skimming the atmosphere on first orbit and had to make another burn, heh

L159[23:47:44] <SporkWitch> extra bonus, though, is that there's a free cargo bay as well, so it should be possible to carry small payloads out from kerbin, and trivial to pick payloads up in orbit for delivery wherever

L161[23:54:18] <SporkWitch> wasat for? lol

L162[23:55:30] <flayer> dunno

L163[23:55:35] <flayer> i opened the channel and there you were