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L19[05:10:38] <XXCoder> ;mission
L20[05:10:38] <LunchBot> XXCoder: You
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properly compute the collision of your ship and Kerbin. You fly
straight through and begin your next mission.
L21[05:10:55] <XXCoder> whew
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L24[06:24:56] <packbart> !nela
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L48[14:35:57] <Althego> !calc
3072000+1536000+2816000+768000+2304000
L49[14:35:58] <Kerbot> Althego =>
10496000
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L52[14:44:11] <Bebiezaza> hmmm
L53[14:44:54] <Bebiezaza> are there any
squad employees who are active on the forum?
L54[14:46:26] <Althego> the inmarsat launch
is delayed somewhat
L55[14:49:07] <Deddly> Bebiezaza, Yes
L56[14:49:24] <Deddly> Bebiezaza, some of
them to keep an eye on things and read suggestions.
L57[14:49:42] <Deddly> I was just reading
something by one of the devs, actually
L58[14:49:56] <sandbox> they're all dead,
Dave
L60[14:51:28] <Deddly> One of the artists
asked for some feedback and is getting some high-quality
suggestions. He's taking it seriously.
L61[14:52:02] <Deddly> Bebiezaza, We also
have two community managers who are active on the forum
L62[14:52:30] <Deddly> Was there something
you needed help with or were you just curious?
L63[14:52:31] <Bebiezaza> I want someone,
preferable squad employees, to answer this lol
L65[14:52:49] <Deddly> Bebiezaza, Ah yes,
that post!
L66[14:53:32] <Bebiezaza> 🤔
L67[14:54:21] <Deddly> Bebiezaza, I'll see
if I can get KSPStar to have a look
L68[14:54:36] <Deddly> KSPStar is one of
the community managers, she's great.
L69[14:55:21] <Bebiezaza> 👍
L70[14:55:39] <Deddly> But I'll take the
opportunity to thank you for your interest in the wiki!
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L72[14:56:05] <Althego> i would like better
if the exhaust expanded by decreasing pressure
L73[14:56:21] <Althego> the jet engine
exhaust usually looks nice already
L74[14:56:29] <Bebiezaza> I actually had
edited the wiki ages ago, and now I am back to look at it
again
L75[14:56:30] <Deddly> The Althego I think
KSP2 will have that, won't it?
L76[14:56:43] <Althego> i dont trust
ksp2
L77[14:56:49] <Bebiezaza> Mostly doing Thai
translation at a snails' pace
L78[14:57:09] <Deddly> Bebiezaza, is there
any way to see how many people use the Thai translation and how out
of date it is?
L79[14:57:51] <Bebiezaza> BTW, the question
3 in the forum actually stems from me and another contributor from
Thai Wikipedia talking about over discord
L80[14:58:14] <Bebiezaza> Deddly, I don't
think anyone is really using the Thai pages
L81[14:58:29] <Deddly> Is there any way to
tell for sure?
L82[14:58:48] <Deddly> Like, are there
statistics of how many people visit those pages?
L83[14:58:54] <Bebiezaza> There had been 5
people who I have seen in the history who touched the Thai
translation
L84[14:59:01] <Bebiezaza> So, here's the
problem
L85[14:59:22] <Bebiezaza> subpage system of
translation kinda sucks
L86[14:59:37] <Bebiezaza> I cant really see
how many pages are in Thai language
L87[15:00:20] <Bebiezaza> and there has
never been a way to really check how many people visits pages
L88[15:00:24] <Deddly> Do you have any idea
who started the Thai pages?
L89[15:01:13] <Bebiezaza> Yeah, but I would
need to backtrack again
L90[15:01:41] <Deddly> I ask because, if
it's just a community project, you don't really need special
permission to remove it, I think?
L92[15:01:50] <Bebiezaza> this
L93[15:02:38] <Deddly> West2554 back in
2013...
L94[15:04:33] <Deddly> Are all of those
pages just Google Translate or has someone actually done all this
work?
L95[15:05:10] <Deddly> It seems a shame to
remove it if it's human translation - that's a lot of work
L96[15:05:17] <Deddly> I mean, it's a waste
of a lot of effort
L97[15:07:05] <Deddly> Althego, since
development of KSP 1 has finished, apart from possibly bug fixes, I
think the only hope for proper engine plumes in stock is KSP 2. The
discussion I linked is about KSP 2
L98[15:07:24] <Althego> too bad
L99[15:07:29] <Bebiezaza> Here are all the
contributors who have translated Thai language, including the
slightest touch of them
L100[15:07:30] <Bebiezaza> Cyberian,
PPminecraft, JavaDevil, Panawat, Wutzwz (Thai Wikipedian),
Bebiezaza (ME lol also a Thai Wikipedian), X-982p Kerman (Thai
Wikipedian who I've talked about ending Thai Translation
project)
L101[15:08:01] <Bebiezaza> Maybe not all,
but that's what I've found
L102[15:11:50] <Deddly> Thanks,
Bebiezaza
L103[15:12:06] <Deddly> Althego, not happy
about the idea of KSP 2?
L104[15:12:24] <Althego> graphics update
could be done for ksp 1 to achieve similar things
L105[15:12:38] <Althego> and they have to
reimplement ksp 1 and add a lot of fratures
L106[15:12:41] <Althego> like the base
management
L107[15:13:46] <Althego> so i think they
will fail to copy something, fail to implement something new to be
balanced, or fail to integrate the different game aspects
(basically different games)
L108[15:14:00] <Althego> all in all making
ksp 2 worse, except for the graphics
L109[15:14:15] <Bebiezaza> Deddly, and
about the translation, they are mostly easy words, some of them
might have used only Google Translate
L111[15:15:08] <Deddly> Althego, it's
possible
L112[15:17:31] <Bebiezaza> [[Kerbol
System/th]] , [[Moho/th]] , and [[Mohole/th]] are pages I have
recently started from scratch, but I'm open to scrapping
them.
L113[15:17:31] <Deddly> Thanks a lot,
Bebiezaza. Let's see what KSPStar says. I'm not sure if she's
working today, but she'll get the message eventually
L114[15:19:14] <Althego> about 13 minutes
until launch
L115[15:19:20] <umaxtu> Althego: sometimes
its nice to start over instead of with an existing codebase
L116[15:19:25] <Althego> true
L117[15:19:36] <Althego> but for a
graphics overhaul you dont need to touch the code
L118[15:19:36] <Bebiezaza> Thanks Deddly.
I'm not really an IRC user so I might not be online by then. If
there are any responses, please put them into the forum thread I've
created (and for backtracking too).
L120[15:21:54] <Deddly> Bebiezaza, yeah,
KSPStar isn't an IRC user either, so she isn't likely to say
anything here, but hopefully on the forum. :)
L122[15:23:08] <Deddly> Althego, except
for performance reasons. I expect the graphics they're going for
would require a much more powerful machine if it were for KSP
1
L123[15:23:27] <Deddly> haha, OK :)
L124[15:24:21] <Althego> that is a good
point
L126[15:31:34] <Deddly> Ooh I've never
seen a JAXA launch
L127[15:32:07] <Althego> and this is not
one either :)
L128[15:32:16] <Deddly> Oh well
L129[15:32:55] <Althego> looked like it
had high acceleration at liftoff
L130[15:33:00] <Deddly> They should strut
the boosters to the nose cone for moar stability
L131[15:34:55] <Deddly> I'm spoiled by
SpaceX - I want on-board cameras
L132[15:35:22] <Deddly> They even cut out
the only camera feed just as the fairing was about to separate
:/
L133[15:35:26] <Althego> not only
spacex
L134[15:35:37] <Althego> even soyuz and
progress launches have onboard cameras
L135[15:36:07] <Deddly> Yeah I know others
have good cameras too, but SpaceX have so many launches it's easy
to catch one every now and then without planning for it
L136[15:37:10] <Althego> and there are
others, obviousl the electron too, but i think the new small
launchers, like firefly and astra have cameras too
L137[15:37:10] <Mat2ch> The countdown they
showed was a display they filmed...
L138[15:39:31] <Deddly> Yeah Electron is
pretty good
L139[15:40:33] <Althego> i have seen ula
launch with camera on first stage
L140[15:40:47] <Althego> at least it
looked like it was there
L141[15:41:00] <Althego> anyway i think
the most boring launches are fro mesa
L142[15:41:13] <Althego> lot of talk, very
little footage
L143[15:43:23] <Deddly> Blue Origin
streams are mind numbing
L144[15:43:31] <Althego> those are
ads
L145[15:43:45] <Deddly> Exactly
L146[15:44:10] <Deddly> They are worse
than "infomercials"
L147[15:44:33] <Mat2ch> Is someone still
watching their streams?
L148[15:45:11] <Deddly> Mat2ch, I expect
there are still some people who record it so they can play it later
as a "live stream" on YouTube
L149[15:45:20] <Althego> hehe
L150[15:45:23] <Althego> i gate
those
L151[15:45:27] <Althego> especially with
spacex
L152[15:45:33] <Althego> with the fake
names
L153[15:45:35] <Althego> like space
x
L154[15:45:37] <Althego> and such
L155[15:45:51] <Mat2ch> I hate them very
much, too
L156[15:45:58] <Deddly> I'll be reporting
them if I see them again
L157[15:46:02] <Mat2ch> but lately yt
seems to have implemented something to not show me them
anymore
L158[15:46:12] * X
likes space, yes
L159[15:46:19] <Deddly> Someone said that
YouTube are pretty good at having them stopped
L160[15:46:39] <Althego> yes, so good that
they were recommended for weeeks
L161[15:46:40] <Deddly> Haha, X is always
ready to be pinged
L162[15:46:49] <Mat2ch> btw it's almost 10
at the Boca Chica launch site and B4 is already venting...
L163[15:46:53] <Althego> and sandbox
L164[15:46:56] <Althego> and snow
L165[15:47:09] <Deddly> museum
L166[15:47:16] <Mat2ch> X: But do you like
fake streams to advertise cryptocoin stuff?
L167[15:47:18] <Althego> oh nyo
L168[15:47:50] <Rokker> musuem
L169[15:47:53] <Mat2ch> lol
L170[15:47:55] <Mat2ch> :D
L171[15:48:19] * X
didn’t even know that steams could be faked. X has a degree in
economics so he sees the obvious faults in current
cryptocoins.
L172[15:48:59] <Deddly> X, so you're a
dogecoin advocate, are you?
L173[15:49:00] * X
uses this opportunity to warn of the dangerous of deflationary
monetary systems.
L174[15:49:19] <Deddly> What's a
deflationary monetary system?
L175[15:49:20] <X> *Dangers…
L176[15:49:42] <Althego> i guess the
counter to inflationary
L177[15:49:56] <X> It’s anything that
doesn’t have a mechanism to account for increased demand for the
currency by making more currency.
L178[15:49:56] <Althego> so you let it sit
there and it just gains value
L179[15:50:17] <Althego> meanwhile the
value of cryptothing is emitted carbon dioxide. why would anybodsy
pay for that?
L180[15:50:35] <Mat2ch> because it's cheap
and tomorrows problem.
L181[15:50:39] <Althego> basically it is
like paying for farts
L182[15:50:55] <Althego> which is actually
a business as it turned out
L183[15:50:59] <X> Like…. most
commodities, like gold or bitcoin.
L184[15:51:28] <X> A non deflationary
cryptocurrency would generate additional currency for every
transaction.
L185[15:53:32] <Deddly> X, would the
purpose be to prevent it from skyrocketing in value and making a
few early adopters insanely rich?
L186[15:53:42] <X> In… temporal? Monetary
policy, if there is a lot of demand for currency, the central bank
should issue more currency to keep up with the demand for
money.
L187[15:54:53] <X> Deddly: that could
actually still happen. But essentially it would be a counter to
that.
L188[15:55:18] <Deddly> Interesting.
L189[15:55:59] <Deddly> Bitcoin's
mechanism is to progressively increase the work needed to mine new
currency. Does that help, or does it merely putt off the
problem?
L190[15:56:10] <Deddly> put*
L191[15:56:27] <Althego> that is exactly
there to make it impossible to generate more
L192[15:56:47] <X> Bitcoin’s mechanism is
time based, not dependent on use and decreasing over time.
L193[15:58:56] <Deddly> So what is the
main problem with such a system? Insane inflation?
L194[15:58:59] <X> Imagine the earth
contains a certain amount of gold. The easy to mine gold is
released into the world first, and used for transactions. As the
demand for gold increases, its relative value to other goods
increases, and it makes it more economical to mine gold further
under ground or more impure gold. However the amount of gold
available to be a currency is ultimately limited by the amount of
gold in the earth.
L196[15:59:11] <X> Insane deflation
L197[15:59:16] <Izaya> asteroids want to
know your location
L198[15:59:23] <X> When there is demand
for its use
L199[15:59:34] <Deddly> Right, deflation,
sorry
L200[15:59:39] <flayer> there was a huge
increase in people
L201[15:59:42] <flayer> they had to dilute
the gold
L202[15:59:44] <flayer> in the coins
L203[15:59:51] <flayer> to the point where
paper money was the only reasonable alternative
L204[16:00:22] <flayer> backed by an
inflated price of essentially fictitious, potential, gold
L205[16:00:47] <flayer> when it became
obvious it was impossible to maintain the facade in the 60s, they
started working towards backing the currency with oil
L206[16:00:52] <Deddly> X, that's very
interesting. But does that not actually mean that it's a GOOD thing
for people to invest in it before the demand increases?
L207[16:01:01] <X> Yep. Fiat currency is
the only known way to mitigate commodity risk in currency right
biw.
L208[16:01:19] <X> Deddly: if you are
certain there will be demand….
L209[16:01:30] <flayer> there is very
little actual demand for gold
L210[16:01:43] <flayer> only in the
entirely fictional world of finances is there a demand for
gold
L211[16:01:52] <Deddly> X can't you say
the same thing for Dollars, Euro or Sterling?
L213[16:02:12] <X> It has the same risk of
investing in any commodity, if demand doesn’t meat your expectation
you lose out on your investment
L214[16:02:13] <flayer> it might as well
be dandruff.
L215[16:02:19] <sandbox> oh, no bot
L216[16:02:55] <Althego> spandau ballet -
gold
L217[16:03:00] <Althego> or whatveer it
was
L218[16:03:01] <Deddly> X, I mean, if I
hold on to some currency, I better hope it's worth something in the
future.
L219[16:03:03] <sandbox> yep
L220[16:03:21] <Deddly> X, Isn't it the
same risk?
L221[16:03:34] <X> Deddly: there is
nothing limiting the make up of the dollar. We could switch to
plastic if paper becomes expensive.
L222[16:03:45] <Rokker> Deddly: why would
you museum ping me if you have no museum to share :(
L223[16:04:05] <Deddly> Rokker, Aaw sorry.
It's because we were discussing pings :)
L224[16:04:06] <Rokker> I just got through
a week of museum visits in virginia though so I could disregard
some
L225[16:04:15] <X> Deddly: Yes, but you
have a central bank to manage value.
L227[16:04:35] <X> If your central bank is
completely incompetent, like Turkey, then there is risk.
L228[16:04:57] <Rokker> disregard wtf. I
meant share. autocorrect wtf
L229[16:05:18] <X> Turkey is lowering
interest rates to increase demand for Lira…. Which increases
inflation relative to goods.
L230[16:05:49] <X> The better move would
be to increase interest rates to decrease demand for money and to
hopefully stop the inflation train.
L231[16:07:02] <Deddly> So, basically,
this is one reason why investing in currency is generally safer
than investing in shares.
L232[16:07:53] <Deddly> But also, actually
having something valuable, like water or food, is probably the only
thing that'll keep you going when the end comes :)
L233[16:08:58] <Althego> you can store
alcohol, sugar, and lot of stuff that would be valuanle even if all
money lost value
L234[16:09:27] <Deddly> Rokker, please do
share
L236[16:10:04] <X> I wouldn’t ever invest
in currency unless for some weird reason the government has
announced a deflationary policy. Even then you’re probably better
off investing in a company or a bond.
L237[16:10:16] <Deddly> Althego, didn't
the Romans used to use salt? (Salary comes from the word salt, I
think)
L238[16:10:56] <Deddly> X, but then why
would you warn of the dangers of a deflationary system?
L239[16:11:00] <Rokker> Deddly: this is
from the National Museum of the US Army
L240[16:11:14] <Rokker> it's the backup
instrumentation for a pretty important satellite
L241[16:11:30] <Deddly> Which
satellite?
L242[16:12:16] <Rokker> SCORE
L243[16:12:22] <Rokker> the first
commsat
L244[16:15:04] <Rokker> Deddly: I need to
upload the photos still. I'll send them to you when I do
L245[16:15:12] <Rokker> oh
L246[16:15:17] <Rokker> I saw the Orion
capsule
L247[16:15:59] <Deddly> Awesome
L248[16:17:12] <Mat2ch> X: So, if I want
to invest a small amount of money, say 10k EUR for half a year,
what would you suggest?
L249[16:17:17] <Mat2ch> Some ETF?
L250[16:18:52] <Deddly> Hey that's not a
small amount of money
L251[16:19:18] <Deddly> I guess
everything's relative
L253[16:20:38] <Rokker> see, it's an Orion
capsule.
L254[16:21:02] <Mat2ch> Deddly: it's what
some people have to save up to pay for taxes and health
care...
L255[16:21:30] <Mat2ch> and since I'm from
the city of money, this is a rather small amount.
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L257[16:21:42] * X
would warn of the dangers of a deflationary system because it
stifles growth. I’ll explain more later. Off to the
work.
L258[16:21:50] <Mat2ch> Friend of mine was
selling used ships and oil drilling rigs at his last job...
L259[16:22:02] <Deddly> I envy your
proximity to such things, Rokker
L260[16:22:11] <Althego> hehe oil drilling
rigs
L262[16:22:17] <Althego> what spacex
bought
L263[16:22:21] <X> Mat2ch: ETFs for long
term growth. Short term is just gambling.
L264[16:22:28] <Deddly> Thanks for the
lesson, X, seeya :)
L265[16:22:32] <Rokker> look no closer ar
the orion. it is a full complete orion
L266[16:22:34] <Althego> supposedly they
are below the price the steel they are made of
L267[16:22:46] <Rokker> it definitely
isn't a boilerplate
L268[16:22:52] <Rokker> which is still
cool
L269[16:23:05] <Mat2ch> X: any suggestions
for short term?
L270[16:23:15] <Mat2ch> Also have fun
:)
L273[16:24:25] <Rokker> I think this might
be the most forgotten apollo mission
L274[16:26:22] <sandbox> whoopee!
L275[16:27:10] <Rokker> lol
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L280[16:44:17] <Rokker> Deddly:
injin
L281[16:44:46] <Rokker> I got a really
muddy pantleg to get that photo
L282[16:44:49] <Deddly> Oooh that is
lovely
L283[16:47:49] <Rokker> LR-79 off of a
Jupiter
L284[16:47:58] <flayer> i'm gonna take a
nap
L285[16:48:02] <flayer> wake me if Webb
launches
L287[16:48:52] <Rokker> Deddly: have you
met my friend Joe
L288[16:49:06] <Rokker> he's very self
conscious about his size
L289[16:49:15] <Rokker> good ole Lil
Joe
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L291[17:01:47] <Bebiezaza> 👋
L293[17:02:42] <Bebiezaza> Deddly, this is
another Thai Translator I wrote here like 2 hours ago
L294[17:07:13] <Mat2ch> flayer: 24h
nap?
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L296[17:07:45] <Althego> probably learned
from choco sensei
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L299[17:44:29] <Deddly> Sorry Bebiezaza, I
was away (and am again now)
L300[17:44:37] <Bebiezaza> lol
L301[17:44:42] <Bebiezaza> it's almost 1am
here too
L302[17:44:48] <Bebiezaza> might be gone
soon
L303[17:54:46] <Deddly> And I'm working,
so I'm not paying too much attention to this screen right now
:)
L304[17:55:06] <Bebiezaza> I just noticed
that KSPStar answered :)
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L306[17:56:32] <Guest38267> ahoy
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L311[18:14:55] <Deddly> there
L312[18:17:09] <Althego> heh, couldnt even
ask "marine?
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L314[18:40:01] <Mat2ch> Woah
L315[18:40:11] <Mat2ch> look at the Boca
Chica live stream. The whole tank is frosted
L316[18:44:53] <Deddly> Linky?
L318[18:45:54] <Althego> the usual
suspects
L319[18:46:07] <Deddly> Thanks
L320[18:46:48] <Deddly> Methane in the
bottom tank, right?
L321[18:47:59] <Deddly> People in the chat
are saying methane on the top, but I would have thought it would
make more sense the other way around, no?
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L323[18:48:17] <Deddly> ahoy there,
Guest37499
L324[18:48:21] <Althego> the tanks which
is smaller is the oxygen
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L326[18:48:29] <Althego> i guess when they
are full you can see how big they are
L327[18:49:04] <Deddly> Well, you can see
the bottom of the top tank, it seems
L328[18:49:17] <Deddly> So the bottom tank
must be three quarters full
L329[18:49:37] <Althego> then my guess is
the bottom is the methane
L330[18:49:43] <Mat2ch> I guess they
didn't want to fill it up completely today.
L331[18:49:57] <Mat2ch> Maybe tomorrow and
then they will give out an overpressure notice
L332[18:50:22] <Deddly> Oxygen is heavier,
I believe, so from a stability point of view, Methane on the bottom
would be more logical.
L333[18:50:33] <Mat2ch> and doesn't it
need more oxygen than methane?
L334[18:50:50] <Althego> but it falls
bottom down
L335[18:51:01] <Althego> ok at that point
it is almost empty
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L340[18:55:02] <Mat2ch> and it's the
bigger tank. So the bigger tank is LOX
L341[18:55:14] <Althego> strange
L342[18:55:21] <Deddly> And it's the
smaller tank, depending in which image you look at
L343[18:55:25] <Althego> i probably
remembered incorrectly
L344[18:56:00] <Deddly> If I wasn't clear,
the two images show opposite configurations
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L347[18:57:53] <Mat2ch> But I'm wondering
about the booster...
L348[18:58:11] <Deddly> Yeah I know, me
too, but I thought it was amusing
L349[18:59:10] <Mat2ch> and I think
methane is more dense than oxygen, the molecule is longer and you
need four oxygen atoms for one methane molecule
L350[18:59:33] <Mat2ch> eh, not longer,
just bigger than oxygen
L351[19:00:23] <Deddly> Umm, I think O2
should be a lot heavier
L352[19:00:55] <Althego> o2 is denser, way
denser, says the net
L353[19:01:05] <Althego> but you need more
than 1 oxygen, so...
L354[19:01:17] <Deddly> GOOGLE HAS
SPOKEN
L355[19:01:58] <Mat2ch> ah, in the stream
they said something that means the LOX tank is at the bottom
L356[19:02:41] <Althego> at least not
bottom left :)
L357[19:03:22] <Izaya> managed to write a
kOS script to plan intercepts through brute force :3
L358[19:03:48] <Deddly> Nice one
Izaya
L359[19:04:56] <Althego> hehe, brute
forcing an encounter
L360[19:05:00] <Izaya> it uses the
advanced technique of "plan a prograde burn and then let the
game work out the distance while you run the simulation time
forward"
L363[19:06:30] <Izaya> for my next trick
I'll add another node after the encounter one to match orbits (by
brute forcing the speicifc closest approach and getting the
velocity difference)
L364[19:07:20] <Althego> !calc
1.141/0.657/2
L365[19:07:20] <Kerbot> Althego =>
~0.86834094368340943683
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L368[19:10:38] <Deddly> Hey I just
realised mod9000 is missing
L369[19:10:51] <Mat2ch> Deddly: but on
both pictures it's always the bigger tank
L370[19:11:04] <Mat2ch> and you can
clearly see that the bigger tank is at the bottom on B4
L371[19:11:39] <Deddly> This is true
L372[19:12:09] <Althego> the bigger tank
is the methane
L373[19:12:13] <Althego> er
L374[19:12:15] <Althego> oxygen
L375[19:12:30] <Althego> because first i
didnt take into account you need 2 o2 molecules for 1 methane
L376[19:13:04] <Deddly> According to
Wikipedia, 2,800 t of liquid oxygen and 800 t of liquid
methane
L377[19:13:04] <Althego> so it is app. 2x
denser than emthane, but you need 2x as much, so the density ratio
gives this 86%
L378[19:13:24] <Althego> for volume
L379[19:14:50] <Deddly> Sounds about
right.
L380[19:15:24] <Deddly> So why have the
heavier part at the bottom? To avoid crushing the tank below?
L381[19:15:37] <Althego> that can be
L382[19:15:55] <Althego> as beck said, the
most of the force on the tanks and the rocket is buckling
L383[19:16:21] <Deddly> I guess
L384[19:16:25] <Althego> and there can be
a thoudand other reasons
L385[19:16:46] <Althego> it can also
happen than in a later iteration the tanks are reversed
L386[19:16:56] <Althego> didnt that happen
to starship?
L387[19:22:25] <Mat2ch> It did
L388[19:24:14] <Deddly> I guess that's why
there are conflicting diagrams
L389[19:24:39] <Deddly> Which liquid is
colder?
L390[19:24:45] <Althego> hehe scott's
video, didnt mention that jwst has now missed 24th
L391[19:25:09] <Althego> with spacex you
can never know, do they supercool starship too?
L392[19:26:59] <Mat2ch> woooot
L393[19:27:06] <Mat2ch> jwst postponed
again?
L395[19:27:27] <Althego> weather
L396[19:27:36] <Althego> actually doesnt
loko good for the next weeks
L397[19:28:25] <Mat2ch> :(
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L400[20:34:03] <sandbox> already
watched
L401[20:34:15] <Althego> the gunniest
thing is, they are actually doing a fine interview, although they
are only a fake news site
L402[20:35:33] <sandbox> f
L403[20:35:55] <Althego> no need to pay
respects, nobody died :)
L404[20:36:03] <Althego> yes there was a
typo there
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L406[21:19:13] <Althego> kikkerikii
L407[21:19:34] <Althego> but i cant stay
up...
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L409[21:29:47] <SporkWitch> sandbox: the
full 1:40-ish one? the one i linked yesterday was only about 40
minutes of it
L410[21:30:08] <sandbox> SporkWitch, yep
the full one
L411[21:30:12] <Althego> the full is about
100 minutes
L412[21:30:39] <sandbox> or half that if
you watch at 2x speed ;p
L413[21:30:42] <SporkWitch> and yeah,
Babylon Bee IS a satire site, but they are smart people. They also
have Not The Bee, where they report on real, albeit absurd, news
(generally stuff that they WOULD publish as satire, but it's
actually real lol)
L414[21:31:35] <SporkWitch> sandbox: just
making sure, because the longer one actually gets into the weeds on
Starship, so i knew it would be of high interest here heh
L415[21:33:32] <Althego> the problem with
2x speed is, that elon has a speech pattern that makes him hard to
understand
L416[21:33:48] <Althego> honestly i hate
how he talks
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L418[21:41:35] <Izaya> SporkWitch: /sfg/
lurker?
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