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L11[00:38:46] <SporkWitch> lol, "explodium sea"
L12[00:38:50] <SporkWitch> i want to light eve on fire now lol
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L37[00:57:45] <packbart> !nela
L38[00:57:45] <Kerbot> packbart => Falcon 9 - Crew-3 (Dragon) - Thu Nov 11, 2021 02:03:00 UTC (L-01:06:06) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/crew-3-dragon for info/stream
L39[00:57:51] <packbart> ah
L40[01:01:17] <flayer> good grief
L41[01:01:30] <flayer> i'm slowly turning in a psychopathic lunatic
L42[01:01:51] <flayer> it's been an ongoing process for at least 15 years, and in about 30 years more i'll have completed my transformation
L43[01:07:57] <SporkWitch> damn, that probe was worthwhile even if i did end up short on deltaV to hit gilly as well; 2.4k science radio'd back, and with some patience i can still grab more biomes :P
L44[01:17:30] <raptop> woot
L45[01:27:15] <SporkWitch> okay, i officially love rapiers lol
L46[01:27:59] <SporkWitch> added one additional fuel fuselage on each side, replaced the whiplashes with rapiers, and the aerospikes with nukes, slightly higher orbit, and with much more deltaV left over
L47[01:28:34] <SporkWitch> i can definitely work with these new engines, trick is going to be getting just the right amount of oxidizer to get to orbit and use liquid fuel for the rest
L48[01:34:16] <SporkWitch> so does thta pre-cooler part do anything useful? i can't really seem to find much
L49[01:34:30] <flayer> intake?
L50[01:34:33] <flayer> fuel?
L51[01:34:53] <flayer> structural fuselage?
L52[01:35:15] <SporkWitch> so basically just a slightly different version of the lower-tier in-line intake?
L53[01:35:53] <raptop> IIRC, it's just an intake maybe with a bit of fuel
L54[01:36:05] <SporkWitch> gotcha
L55[01:37:10] <SporkWitch> totally unrelated: any recommend graphics mods available on ckan? i have realplume, planetshine, and sunflare, but in videos i'm seeing awesome cloud, water, and weather effects (like lightning in eve's atmosphere)
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L57[01:39:29] <Izaya> that's probably scatterer
L58[01:45:40] <SporkWitch> i should have that, pretty sure it's a prereq for realplume
L59[01:46:13] <packbart> I'd use watefall instead of realplume
L60[01:46:51] <packbart> Clouds are done by EVE (plus maybe a texture pack like Spectra) and Scatterer
L61[01:46:55] <SporkWitch> i just want the pretties! lol. i have the resources for it :P
L62[01:47:13] <packbart> yeah, but Waterfall is more pretty than Realplume, imo
L63[01:47:37] <packbart> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/196309-112x-waterfall-a-framework-for-continuous-mesh-driven-engine-effects-july-23/
L64[01:47:54] <SporkWitch> i'll give it a shot, not sure what i'm missing for the environmental stuff, though :(
L65[01:48:18] <packbart> Try installing Spectra from CKAN. I like it
L66[01:48:33] <packbart> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/159443-1122-spectra-visual-compilation-150-breathe-22nd-september-2021/
L67[01:49:16] <SporkWitch> will check those out shortly; entering atmosphere now, testing latest spaceplane's reentry and landing
L68[01:49:55] <packbart> The problem with clouds is that you sometimes can't see the landmasses anymore from the map view
L69[01:50:06] <packbart> that makes landing on Eve a bit more tricky
L70[01:58:23] <SporkWitch> in fairness, you're not really SUPPOSED to see eve's from orbit. once landed, that would be annoying, though (i really hope they have a proper ground map / nav mode in KSP2)
L71[01:58:48] <SporkWitch> and the answer to re-entry is: no control authority lol. went into a flat spin around 30km and was never able to recover
L72[01:59:04] <SporkWitch> (and i've recovered from some crazy stuff, both in this and in DCS)
L73[02:00:41] <Izaya> rocketlaunch.live is a missed opportunity, could've been rocketlaunch.site
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L75[02:04:28] <SporkWitch> is the latter claimed? nothing stopping them from grabbing it and putting a redirect on .live :P
L76[02:05:07] <Izaya> alas it is
L77[02:05:14] <Izaya> otherwise I would've bought it myself
L78[02:05:32] <SporkWitch> heh
L79[02:07:04] <Izaya> hhhh excellent glowing rocket nozzle
L80[02:08:15] <minas_tirith> hey Izaya
L81[02:08:26] <minas_tirith> Funny seeing you here
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L86[03:46:49] <SporkWitch> ... plane isn't controllable, go back and throw a canard on... get to orbit... there's only one canard because symmetry was off >_< lol
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L115[06:20:14] <RoboFreak> crew 3 is up. electron was delayed, but there may or may not be an astra launch today
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L120[07:08:06] <kubi> little Friday, my space friends!
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L129[08:58:19] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: but it got to orbit!
L130[08:58:28] <Mat2ch> even with less drag!
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L139[12:37:11] <Althego> (local) leet time
L140[12:37:53] <Mat2ch> yeah
L141[12:37:57] <Mat2ch> 12 hours till docking
L142[12:38:15] <Mat2ch> but I'm going to sleep
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L158[13:44:51] <Mat2ch> umaxtu: do you have a link to that rcs balancer which shows the wet and dry CoM?
L159[14:09:56] <umaxtu> https://github.com/m4v/RCSBuildAid
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L177[14:37:30] <SporkWitch> if i like plane a lot, should i try out FAR? It sounds like it'd fix a lot of my control issues by having the aircraft behave more realistically
L178[14:39:23] <Truga> yes far makes planes easier to use IME, but it'll also kill you if you design anything incorrectly
L179[14:46:44] <SporkWitch> sounds like it'll be more help than hindrance, as part of my problem i think is building planes how they logically should work rather than how they work in KSP lol. Reading up on FAR I figured out why those spins were unrecoverably when they should have been: no "weathervane" effect in KSP. I couldn't understand why throttling up and pointing down didn't stabilize me like it should lol
L180[14:48:43] <darsie> Did you turn the rudder correctly?
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L182[15:30:41] <SporkWitch> O.o
L183[15:51:09] <SporkWitch> packbart: not sure which is doing it, but i suspect waterfall, instant FPS death on the ground lol. Seems fine once I get a couple hundred meters up
L184[15:51:16] <SporkWitch> damn is it pretty, though lol
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L186[16:03:51] <SporkWitch> note to self: flying at 1.7km/s at sea level turns you into a fireball :P
L187[16:05:11] <raptop> :D
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L189[16:10:33] <SporkWitch> to be fair, i kind of did it on purpose for fun lol
L190[16:11:01] <SporkWitch> also, it seems the FPS issue is specific to the waterfall presets for the rapiers; nukes, whiplash, and aerospike don't cause even a hiccough
L191[16:11:24] <Althego> waterfall?
L192[16:11:35] <SporkWitch> engine plume mod
L193[16:11:40] <SporkWitch> even prettier than realplume
L194[16:12:25] <SporkWitch> i swapped it in for realplume, and added spectra for cloud effects and such
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L196[16:36:26] <SporkWitch> hmmm, 2 rapiers = fine, 4 rapiers = goodbye FPS lol
L197[16:39:10] <Althego> too bad they never made bigger versions of the rapiers
L198[16:39:25] <SporkWitch> the solution seems to just be "moar rapiers" lol
L199[16:40:12] <SporkWitch> wish i knew what exactly it was about the rapiers that instantly tanks FPS above 2 of them. don't have the same issue with whiplash, aerospike, nukes, etc. it's SPECIFICALLY something about the effects waterfall's preset is applying to the rapiers...
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L202[18:26:52] <flayer> i'm tired Althego
L203[18:26:58] <flayer> how are you
L204[18:27:28] <Althego> end of year fatigue
L205[18:34:41] <Mat2ch> it's weeks until that!
L206[18:34:55] <Althego> 2 weeks
L207[18:35:05] <Althego> somehow habe yo push through
L208[18:35:14] <Althego> have to
L209[18:35:16] <Mat2ch> in two week its going to be still November!
L210[18:35:26] <Althego> but no more work for me
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L212[18:35:52] <Mat2ch> Free until new year?
L213[18:35:57] <Althego> yes
L214[18:42:23] <Mat2ch> Nice
L215[18:42:27] <Mat2ch> that's 6 weeks or so
L216[18:45:24] <Mat2ch> I'm going to tell my clients that I take the two weeks after christmas off
L217[18:46:32] <Mat2ch> which will be no problem, because nobody will be working those two weeks...
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L221[19:34:03] <packbart> SporkWitch: huh, that's odd. I don't use Rapiers myself, though. you could try and fiddle with the Waterfall settings (it's got a UI to modify them) or maybe ask on the mod's thread
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L224[19:57:35] <SporkWitch> packbart: yeah, the interface isn't exactly... intuitive heh. there's no simple or obvious quality settings heh
L225[20:05:59] <Althego> docking in a few hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ5YAPZ8i3s
L226[20:07:11] <Althego> also space is back. but i need to sleep
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