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L15[03:17:18] <Solar_Oracle> Aaaaaand we're back on the air.
L16[03:18:44] <darsie> .
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L19[03:21:00] <Solar_Oracle> And I'll bring in our first listener.
L20[03:27:28] <umaxtu> hello, my name is umaxtu and I love reading terrible sci-fi
L21[03:28:06] <Solar_Oracle> Well that's nice. Alright, next caller.
L22[03:28:15] <umaxtu> lol
L23[03:28:42] <Solar_Oracle> I also have a dilemma: Finish watching Let's Play then write.
L24[03:28:52] <Solar_Oracle> Notice there's not an, "Or" there.
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L26[03:36:19] <raptop> the dilemma is sleep vs those things?
L27[03:40:10] <Solar_Oracle> It'll be several hundreds of billions of years till I leave the main sequence and sleep.
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L30[03:57:00] <Solar_Oracle> By the Kraken, nearly an hour to watch.
L31[04:06:25] <Solar_Oracle> Shower thoughts: Commander Shepard not only died from asphyxiation, they also reentered an atmosphere.
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L48[10:03:58] <NGC3982> dars.. d.. where's darsie
L49[10:11:27] <Althego> i always think it is some kind of noble family name: d'arcy :)
L50[10:13:05] <NGC3982> ignoring spelling im pretty sure he's the quasi-antagonist in a jane austen novel
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L53[11:37:10] <Althego> (local) leet time
L54[12:05:16] <Althego> A man walks into a bar, the bartender asks, "what do you want?" the man replies, "Oh, just some fruit punch" the bartender sighs and shakes his head, "if you want punch, you're gonna have to wait in line". The man looks around, but there is no punchline.
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L56[12:50:23] <darsie> .
L57[12:50:34] <Althego> mr d'arcy
L58[12:50:44] <darsie> .
L59[12:52:29] <NGC3982> muh darsee
L60[12:53:26] <darsie> .
L61[12:54:58] <darsie> I'm responding because this is one of my favorite channels. You're not highlighting me wiht d'arcy or darsee.
L62[13:02:10] <darsie> darise is common, too.
L63[13:02:49] <NGC3982> clarise*
L64[13:03:48] <darsie> .
L65[13:07:59] <darsie> https://i.imgur.com/9epVmOs.jpeg
L66[13:08:44] <Althego> shuba shuba
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L72[15:32:41] <raptop> hah
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L85[18:32:06] <darsie> This happens if you give a 1* engineer a bunch of blocks and two ladders:
L86[18:32:06] <darsie> https://i.postimg.cc/x9TtFBNS/screenshot181.png
L87[18:32:06] <darsie> https://i.postimg.cc/F9F5pPNf/screenshot179.png
L88[18:33:19] <raptop> This is giving me an "images that preceed unfortunate events" vibe
L89[18:34:30] <Althego> looks like somebody scaling an antenna tower to replace the lightbulb on top
L90[18:36:05] <darsie> She built that tower from the blocks and when she couldn't reach higher, she climbed the stairs putting the lower stair above the other, building even higher.
L91[18:36:24] <darsie> s/stair/ladder
L92[18:36:59] <raptop> nice
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L96[19:28:22] <darsie> Tourists can't leave command seats.
L97[19:28:39] <Althego> bee happy that you can make them sit in command seats
L98[19:29:06] <darsie> :)
L99[19:30:03] <packbart> darsie: there's a mod for that, too :) Kourageous Tourists
L100[19:30:09] <darsie> rly? :)
L101[19:30:29] <packbart> peeling 10 Kerbals out of a module and walking them back in again is quite a chore, though
L102[19:31:16] <packbart> ( https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspt10b.jpg )
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L104[19:32:33] <packbart> it's got a level-system for tourists. 1-star: can EVA on surface, does not have a jetpack up to 5-star: can EVA in space with a jetpack
L105[19:33:33] <Althego> can you control them? or are they moving on their own?
L106[19:33:53] <packbart> no, you need to control them one by one
L107[19:34:08] <packbart> (I didn't test the EVA-follower mod)
L108[19:34:43] <darsie> How do they get stars? Are they recurring customers?
L109[19:36:01] <packbart> ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/167120-x )
L110[19:36:22] <packbart> darsie: similar to how Kerbals level up their experience.
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L118[20:09:54] <darsie> These tourists can't simply jump without falling over on Kerbin.
L119[20:09:59] <darsie> The normal ones.
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L123[21:08:48] <NGC3982> i think i found a bug
L124[21:09:05] <NGC3982> rcs is using fuel and oxidizer even if crossfeeds are cut
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L126[21:29:00] <darsie> Ok, I made a proper rocket for orbital tourists :) https://i.postimg.cc/b8GMxmZv/screenshot191.png https://i.postimg.cc/NtCS23fV/screenshot187.png https://i.postimg.cc/LHCCfPRf/screenshot190.png
L127[21:30:40] * darsie is proud for the idea of storing the chute in the octagonal strut.
L128[21:31:25] <darsie> For lack of an inline chute.
L129[21:38:11] <packbart> NGC3982: RCS ignores crossfeed settings, afaik. do you use the Lf/Ox thrusters?
L130[21:38:44] * raptop guesses that this is that one RCS thruster that uses Lf/Ox (the Vernor?)
L131[21:39:37] <packbart> or was the crossfeed setting an attribute of the monoprop resource?
L132[21:40:41] <raptop> hrm
L133[21:40:59] * raptop vaguely remembers that also being a resource setting
L134[21:45:17] <NGC3982> packbart: oh, dag nabbit
L135[21:45:25] <NGC3982> lf/ox thrusters, yes
L136[21:45:45] <packbart> the vernorEngine.cfg contains "resourceFlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW"
L137[21:46:02] <NGC3982> they used fule from all of the tanks (even lf-only ones) on the entire craft despite crossfeed configuration
L138[21:46:18] <packbart> not sure what that means exactly
L139[21:47:22] <NGC3982> fuel tank 1 > decoupler with no crossfeed > fuel tank 2 > decoupler with no crossfeed
L140[21:47:38] <NGC3982> rcs lf/ox thrusters attached to fuel tank 1
L141[21:47:56] <NGC3982> when they are in use, fuel is depleated from both fuel tank 1 and 2
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L143[21:48:32] <Guest96491> does anyone even use this
L144[21:48:38] <Guest96491> there exists a discord
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L146[21:49:01] <raptop> ajlsdfk;;;;
L147[21:49:03] <packbart> why use discord when there's IRC
L148[21:49:20] <raptop> Why jump into a channel to complain at everyone and then leave 28 seconds later?
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L150[21:57:52] <darsie> Can someone make me an account and accept the discord TOS?
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L152[21:58:22] <darsie> After reading them.
L153[21:58:38] <NGC3982> sure
L154[21:58:42] <raptop> Anyway, There's a #Principia channel on this server that has a bot that bridges to the Principia discord, so I'm not sure what else is needed
L155[21:58:42] <NGC3982> i have nothing better to do
L156[21:58:54] <NGC3982> what is principia?
L157[21:59:01] <NGC3982> besides a very important book
L158[21:59:15] <darsie> a mod providing n-body gravity.
L159[21:59:44] <raptop> Yep
L160[21:59:57] <darsie> Therefore also Lagrangian points, I think.
L161[22:00:21] <raptop> Lagrange points, shenanigans with low energy transfers, nonspherical gravity (so you can do sun-synchronous orbits)...
L162[22:00:46] <darsie> Parabolic/hyperbolic escape trajectories?
L163[22:00:58] <raptop> Are just approximations there
L164[22:01:11] <raptop> I mean, I guess it depends a bit on choice of reference frame
L165[22:01:45] <NGC3982> very cool
L166[22:03:53] * darsie thinks about ballistic capture.
L167[22:05:47] <packbart> it doesn't provide all-body mechanics, though. can't put a probe in orbit around an asteroid or pull a space station off course by parking a ship next to it
L168[22:06:30] <umaxtu> not even principia?
L169[22:06:45] <packbart> exactly not principia
L170[22:08:55] <packbart> (as far as I know. it might have changed)
L171[22:12:22] <raptop> Yeah, spacecraft don't exert gravity in it
L172[22:18:14] <umaxtu> lame
L173[22:19:19] <packbart> send a patch ;)
L174[22:20:11] <NGC3982> getting to eeloo for the first time
L175[22:20:26] <NGC3982> extreme amounts of dV left on lower stage
L176[22:20:36] <NGC3982> but using decoupler instead of docking port
L177[22:20:44] <NGC3982> :---(
L178[22:28:05] <raptop> I guess you can use it as a crasher
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L181[22:49:11] <NGC3982> https://skarmdump.henjoh.se/eeloo.PNG
L182[22:49:12] <NGC3982> yey!
L183[22:49:33] <raptop> \o/
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L186[23:11:10] <NGC3982> i actually looks like i will make it home
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