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L11[01:38:11] <Solar_Oracle> Alright, it's on to more suffering.
L12[01:40:25] <minas_tirith> Solar_Oracle
L13[01:40:38] <Solar_Oracle> YOU WISH TO CONSULE THE ORACLE, MORTAL?
L14[01:41:21] <raptop> Just as long as you're not the Larry Ellison Oracle
L15[01:44:14] <Solar_Oracle> Nope, I'm one of those natural oracles like noxious fumes or flocks of birds.
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L22[02:18:41] <raptop> "For all we know, his science-fiction could've been some peacenik screed about primitivist Neanderthals or naked princesses on Mars!" heh
L23[02:21:41] <Solar_Oracle> For being such an important character, Mikey has as much depth and characterization as a single sheet of printer paper.
L24[02:22:00] <Solar_Oracle> And another chapter up.
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L26[02:26:48] <raptop> "onboard grav-drives that could accelerate them to a large fraction of the speed of light in less than twenty meters" Well, at least they can't fire them in a planetary atmosphere without killing themselves
L27[02:27:22] <raptop> But, uh, also why would you shoot it at anything smaller than a carrier battle group?
L28[02:27:45] * raptop assumes that grav-drives make a mockery of recoil
L29[02:32:52] <Solar_Oracle> It would be funny if the recoil was substantial.
L30[02:33:59] <Solar_Oracle> The Posleen books *really* love ridiculous, impractical science-fiction weapons that end up performing no better in the book than conventional weapons would have.
L31[02:34:28] <Solar_Oracle> While I'm not sure if they're in this particular text, Watch on the Rhine has tanks that would dwarf Baneblades.
L32[02:35:32] <raptop> Figure that the missile is at least 1 kg, and "large fraction" means >0.5 c (γ > 1.14). That's >3 megatons in kinetic energy
L33[02:42:21] <Solar_Oracle> Hahaha! The Posleen orbit-to-surface bombardment vehicles are weak by comparison, getting no more than ten kilotons per the description in this current chapter.
L34[02:43:09] <raptop> hah
L35[02:43:24] <Solar_Oracle> Babylon 5 did it better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCk-12UtYEI
L36[02:43:45] * raptop imagines a posleen hanging out the airlock of one of those dodecahedrons and aiming down at various cities
L37[02:45:12] <Solar_Oracle> I think there was an episode of The Clone Wars where they actually did that with battlefield artillery being used in space as anti-ship batteries.
L38[02:45:21] <raptop> nice
L39[02:46:05] * raptop vaguely recalls something like that, with the artillery hidden so it could ambush the ships
L40[02:47:06] <Solar_Oracle> Posleen shooting out of the airlocks would be some real Battlefield level stuff.
L41[02:50:13] <Solar_Oracle> Crap, I can't find my favorite part of Babylon 5, season 2 on YouTube.
L42[02:56:00] <Solar_Oracle> Close second https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oHtLmjKRbE
L43[03:13:34] <Solar_Oracle> 3rd best scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0n2vurSBIQ
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L47[03:24:10] <Althego> oh no, calli at the same time as ollie
L48[03:24:43] <Althego> and a casual 5 hour stream from kiara
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L51[04:01:35] <Althego> math stream started yess
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L53[04:08:44] <Althego> guh
L54[04:12:36] <raptop> There's something inherintly amusing about watching a zombie on another continent teach calculus
L55[04:14:31] <Althego> be honest, it was interesting when she read pi
L56[04:16:35] <raptop> it was surprisingly interesting
L57[04:18:35] <Althego> that resize trick is something you cant do on a real blackboard
L58[04:19:36] <Althego> why do we still go watch people drawing on a real one? would make more sense to sit at hgome and watch a stream
L59[04:21:51] <raptop> I'm leaning towards the idea that lectures should be entirely pre-recorded things, and the actual student/teacher meetings be recitation/homework related things and labs
L60[04:24:32] <raptop> hrm, properly deriving the power rule would mean having to do some binomial theorem silliness?
L61[04:24:58] <Althego> i dont remember :)
L62[05:01:43] <raptop> Obviously someone should troll Ollie by tweeting at her solutions to the homework involving fluxions
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L75[09:21:04] <darsie> Boosters dive into the VAB floor if I press N.
L76[09:21:21] <Althego> what does n do
L77[09:21:51] <Althego> i think i never used that in the editor
L78[09:24:35] <darsie> Positions the rocket some 5 or 10 m above ground.
L79[09:25:01] <darsie> Maybe a mod key.
L80[09:48:06] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP0vGjHdOsE
L81[09:48:08] <Mat2ch> oh, wow
L82[09:48:11] <Mat2ch> give that one a view
L83[09:48:13] <Mat2ch> or two
L84[09:48:15] <Mat2ch> and share it!
L85[09:48:32] <Althego> what, momo launch lot later
L86[09:48:36] <Althego> i could have watched it
L87[09:49:37] <Althego> lol typical kerbals
L88[09:50:22] <Althego> heh did momo fail? or was that rotation intentional?
L89[09:52:04] <Mat2ch> Booster 3 on Pad A is so much taller than a starship :D
L90[09:57:33] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRdlrLJT3AE
L91[10:24:34] <darsie> Oh no, I forgot to deploy solar panels on my new space station. Now I have to send a probe with electricity up ...
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L95[10:46:03] <Mat2ch> Althego: it's crazy that they still use analog communications for the cameras
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L97[10:49:20] <Mat2ch> The ocean is burning. I've never seen that in any prophecy.
L98[10:51:44] <Althego> centurions episode, the sky is on fire
L99[10:51:48] <sandbox> the day of lavos
L100[10:52:30] <Truga> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1411190158347497472/pu/vid/1280x720/F21Uh31u2s5KZK9m.mp4?tag=12
L101[10:53:55] <Mat2ch> I'm talking about old prophecies!
L102[10:56:57] <sandbox> 65 million year old prophecy
L103[10:57:26] <Mat2ch> too old. :D
L104[10:57:32] <flayer> honestly
L105[10:57:53] <flayer> "the rapture" might just be a prediction of billionaires flying off into space to leave this planet
L106[10:58:02] <flayer> "the meek shall inherit the earth" ... or what's left of it.
L107[10:58:29] <Althego> hehe wata in da faiyaa
L108[11:28:56] <Althego> ah, the gtx 1070 revisit benchmark from hardware unboxed. i have been waiting for this
L109[11:37:00] <darsie> 1337
L110[11:46:24] <flayer> .
L111[11:52:33] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i'm having a problem with ckan. it seems to expect the game in SteamApps, but it's actually in steamapps (lowercase)... and i can't find a way to change it
L112[11:52:51] <Althego> add a symlink?
L113[11:53:05] <Eddi|zuHause> i did that, but steam complains loudly about that
L114[11:53:13] <Althego> lol
L115[11:55:26] <Truga> hmm https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN/blob/454e1deb72f74d294c59a3e885a89b46b3113525/Core/Games/KerbalSpaceProgram.cs#L284
L116[11:55:44] <Truga> seems like ckan has like ckan tries both
L117[11:55:52] <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably correct about that, since it's one of those cases where it'll appear to work fine for years, but then randomly collapses in a weird corner case
L118[11:57:33] <Eddi|zuHause> Truga: that's probably for first time installs, not installs which have existed for years and then steam decided the path changes?
L119[11:57:43] <Truga> possibly
L120[12:03:48] <Eddi|zuHause> problem is, in the game version list, i can only "rename" them, not change the path
L121[12:08:47] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: linux? Then try a symlink
L122[12:08:56] <Althego> didnt work
L123[12:09:11] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it "works". but rings all kinds of alarm bells
L124[12:09:21] <Mat2ch> not steam
L125[12:09:24] <Mat2ch> for ckan.
L126[12:09:33] <Eddi|zuHause> huh?
L127[12:09:48] <Mat2ch> leave the steam stuff as it is and just add the symlink so ckan finds what it needs.
L128[12:10:00] <Eddi|zuHause> huh?
L129[12:10:22] <flayer> Eddi|zuHause, keep a baseball bat handy in case your computer starts rebelling against you
L130[12:10:28] <Eddi|zuHause> symlink what to where?
L131[12:11:23] <Mat2ch> ln -s steamapps SteamApps
L132[12:11:29] <Eddi|zuHause> yes.
L133[12:11:33] <Eddi|zuHause> that's what i did
L134[12:11:41] <Eddi|zuHause> that's the part that steam complains about
L135[12:12:05] <Mat2ch> hm
L136[12:12:21] <Mat2ch> my KSP folder is in steamapps, too, and ckan doesn't complain
L137[12:12:35] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but mine was in SteamApps before
L138[12:12:39] <Eddi|zuHause> now it's not
L139[12:12:50] <Eddi|zuHause> and i can't change the entry in ckan
L140[12:12:57] <Mat2ch> I'm confused...
L141[12:13:15] <Eddi|zuHause> what's confusing?
L142[12:13:35] <Eddi|zuHause> it used to be SteamApps. then some day several years ago steam decided to rename it to steamapps
L143[12:13:45] <Mat2ch> You say ckan expects KSP in SteamApps.
L144[12:13:53] <Mat2ch> but ckan works for me fine without complaining
L145[12:13:55] <Eddi|zuHause> now i ran ckan again
L146[12:14:03] <Eddi|zuHause> and it's still looking in SteamApps
L147[12:14:16] <Eddi|zuHause> and i can't tell ckan to change the stored path
L148[12:14:18] <Mat2ch> where is the ckan binary located for you?
L149[12:14:43] <Eddi|zuHause> in some random folder i put it a few years ago
L150[12:14:55] <Mat2ch> oh, ok, that's the difference
L151[12:15:06] <Mat2ch> I place the binary usually in the KSP directory
L152[12:15:09] <Mat2ch> so no path lookup
L153[12:15:10] <Eddi|zuHause> not inside the steam folder
L154[12:15:33] <Mat2ch> (and I can have multiple KSP installs in parallel with different stuff in it, like RO+RSS)
L155[12:15:50] <Eddi|zuHause> sure. i could try to add a new instance
L156[12:17:41] <Mat2ch> well, it is small enough to do so
L157[12:17:52] <Mat2ch> also I run it from inside of a schroot environment :P
L158[12:17:57] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm afraid the "clone" command will try to copy stuff onto itself, and the "new" command will not remember the mods
L159[12:18:08] <Mat2ch> schroot -c chroot:sid_mono -p mono "/home/blabla/games/SteamLinux/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/ckan.exe"
L160[12:18:17] <Mat2ch> I hope to annoy Althego with this. :D
L161[12:18:46] <Althego> i just think it is useless complexity. doesnt matter what you use
L162[12:19:46] <Eddi|zuHause> i should probably just google how to regedit with mono
L163[12:20:27] <Mat2ch> Althego: I couldn't do this as a normal user with chroot only.
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L168[14:59:45] <packbart> Eddi|zuHause: can't you just edit CKAN's config.json?
L169[15:06:33] <Eddi|zuHause> there's no such file
L170[15:09:11] <packbart> there should be. I only use CKAN on Windows and it's in AppData\Local\CKAN. I'd expect it to be in something like ~/.config/ on Linux
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L172[15:14:02] <packbart> Eddi|zuHause: ~/.local/share/CKAN/config.json
L173[15:27:07] <Eddi|zuHause> alright, that exists
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L183[17:07:38] <raptop> !mission
L184[17:07:38] <LunchBot> raptop: Mistakes are made. You melt Kerbin's scrith shell, causing it to fall into the singularity.
L185[17:07:46] * raptop >_>;;
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L192[18:45:02] <Althego> deletin one record is down from 1 minute to 43 seconds. huge improvements
L193[18:45:16] <Althego> i guess as the tables shrink it gets faster
L194[18:45:36] <Althego> mostly probably because the related table it needs to delete from still has 17 million rows
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L196[19:44:35] <Althego> scott
L197[19:44:43] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b1VgtyIQN0
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L209[22:11:58] <BoxersteaveeG> hello
L210[22:12:01] <Mod9000> Hello, BoxersteaveeG
L211[22:12:29] <BoxersteaveeG> back to the good ol' days
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L214[22:51:13] <raptop> blink
L215[22:52:06] <raptop> huh, you can in fact do a munar flyby with level 1 VAB/pad and nothing fancier than an LV-T30 (general rocketry)
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