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L2[00:13:39] <Solar_Oracle> A wild M-type
star appeared!
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L6[00:19:56] <raptop> It's not very
effective...
L7[00:20:20] <raptop> (I mean, the
luminosity of a typical M-dwarf isn't any larger than a
medium-sized nuke)
L8[00:20:58] * raptop
ignores that you can't have a nuclear weapon detonate continuously
for gigayears (if not terayears)
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L11[00:32:05] <Solar_Oracle> The last
civilizations will cling to the light which you once called
feeble!
L12[00:32:11] *** Server sets mode:
+CLPTgnt
L13[00:43:19] <Solar_Oracle> In the end,
your greatest leaders will beg to serve us!
L14[00:47:36] <raptop> heh
L16[00:48:57] <Solar_Oracle> One chapter
in, and I'm already reading on how good chicken tastes like
sand.
L17[00:51:07] <raptop> uh
L18[00:51:35] <raptop> I've heard that
turkey can have a grainy texture vs chicken, but still o_O
L19[00:52:03] <Solar_Oracle> This is
further proof that John Ringo is not of this Earth.
L20[00:52:49] <Solar_Oracle> I am, however,
going to need a place to upload this Let's Read.
L21[01:00:13] <Solar_Oracle> By the Kraken,
this book is awful.
L22[01:03:27] <Solar_Oracle> A Hymn Before
Battle? More like a hymn before I had to read this awful
text.
L23[01:07:08] <Solar_Oracle> And GRRRRRR
too much military terminology! It's a science-fiction action book,
not a manual!
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L25[01:25:32] <Solar_Oracle> Pro tip,
science-fiction writers: Most of you understand so little of space
flight that you will be the LAST people on the planet to be
contacted if a space navy is needed to fight aliens.
L26[01:26:05] <Solar_Oracle> For every one
person that writes something that reads like Children of a Dead
Earth in text format, we'd get a thousand people who think it
should play out like Battlefleet Gothic
L27[01:28:40] <umaxtu> what book?
L28[01:28:48] <raptop> A Hymn Before
Battle
L29[01:29:33] <raptop> Or more
generally,too many writers thinking that they're writing with a
different level of realism than they actually are
L30[01:30:18] <Solar_Oracle> It's the first
in what is known as the Posleen Series.
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L32[01:30:53] <Solar_Oracle> It's a series
about an invasion of Earth led by a bunch of aliens that would have
trouble screwing in a light bulb without accidentally blowing
themselves up. Think Orks, but even more stupid.
L33[01:31:09] <umaxtu> theres this one
fairly cheesy sci-fi series that I like where the author tries to
consider the impacts of traveling at .1 - .2 c
L34[01:33:00] <Solar_Oracle> I only wish we
got that level of analysis. In one of the series' later books, we
get tanks with supersized conventional penetrators loaded with
multiple grams of antimatter.
L35[01:33:19] <Solar_Oracle> And bounding
antigravity mines that are weaker than existing bounding
mines.
L36[01:38:52] *
raptop still wants to know what you'd fire a weapon with multiple
grams of antimatter at. Enemy tank divisions and/or carrier
battlegroups?
L37[01:40:18] <Solar_Oracle> Dropships. The
penetrator part is silly, the antimatter alone should've vaporized
a gigantic chunk of the vehicles and brought them down just as
spectacularly.
L38[01:40:33] <Solar_Oracle> It gets even
sillier when they reveal they're vulnerable to neutron bombs.
L39[01:41:17] <Solar_Oracle> The Posleen
literally seem to use steel for their ships instead of some neutron
unfriendly space shielding.
L40[01:41:38] <umaxtu> that relativistic
distortion is really the only concession to realism. the ships have
inertial compensators and impossibly powerful and efficient
propulsion systems
L41[01:42:08] <raptop> hm
L42[01:48:17] <Solar_Oracle> Alright, more
writing tomorrow. I must find a place to deposit this filth.
L43[01:48:38] <umaxtu> sounds perfect for
tumblr
L44[01:49:02] <Solar_Oracle> Wait,
*tumblr?*
L45[01:49:13] <umaxtu> well, pre-verizon
tumblr
L46[01:50:11] <raptop> it's fine, they're
not posting porn
L47[01:50:21] <Solar_Oracle> Surprisingly,
Something Awful still exists.
L48[01:51:06] <Solar_Oracle> And that's
where the original Let's Read format originated. I've already
formatted my text for Reddit, but I also have to inconveniently
split up the chapters because Reddit has pretty severe character
limits in posts.
L49[01:51:19] <Solar_Oracle> And I'm unsure
what SubReddit would tolerate this torture.
L50[01:52:00] <Izaya> umaxtu: is it the
Zones of Thought series by chance?
L51[01:52:46] <Izaya> though I suppose
that's more the Cycle of Empires
In Space!
L52[01:59:14] <Solar_Oracle> I only now
realized that the reptilian centaur-esque Posleen are a lot like
Tyranid Termagaunts, except with hands.
L54[02:04:01] <Solar_Oracle> Games Workshop
must've been on serious acid when they did the classic Tyranid
color schemes.
L55[02:07:42] <raptop> 90s (80s?) 40k
armies seem like they were more colorful if anything
L56[02:08:57] <Solar_Oracle> Heh, the Eldar
haven't actually changed that much compared to the rest. The Guard
used to have a huuuuge variety of miniatures.
L57[02:10:07] <umaxtu> Izaya, nah. its the
Lost Fleet series
L58[02:11:44] *
raptop gets the impression that literally every uniform that was
used by an army between 1900 and 1950 is part of some division of
the Imperial Guard
L59[02:13:02] <Solar_Oracle> They even had
some from earlier, ala the Vostroyan First Born.
L62[02:15:37] <raptop> ooh, imperial
russia?
L63[02:15:47] <Solar_Oracle> Yeah.
L64[02:16:28] <Solar_Oracle> GW's always
allowed a bit of leeway into the sheer customization of Guard
regiments, even if they mostly sell Cadian models now.
L65[02:17:11] <Solar_Oracle> With millions
of inhabited worlds, it's pretty easy to come up with an excuse for
a Guard regiment to look like whatever you wish.
L66[02:18:18] <Solar_Oracle> Though,
lore-wise, they're supposed to be single purpose IE: A regiment can
consist of tanks or infantry (not always mechanized), but never
both.
L67[02:18:40] <Solar_Oracle> But the actual
size of a regiment varies tremendously.
L68[02:19:19] <Solar_Oracle> The Ciaphas
Cain novels, for example, largely deal with a regiment that's
overstrength because of a clerical error that's never
resolved.
L69[02:20:24] <Solar_Oracle> The regiment
in question is the combination of two former regiments, but the
Empire's military administration just goes on assuming both still
exist independently and hands out reinforcements and supplies
thusly.
L70[02:22:06] <Solar_Oracle> Which is
pretty believable in Warhammer's context, as it could literally
take them thousands of years to sort out the paperwork.
L71[02:23:48] <Solar_Oracle> I imagine the
form for a disbandment of the two regiments is sitting at the
bottom of a kilometer high stack of other forms in some basement in
a hive on Terra, the responsibility of a clerk that died two
hundred years ago and hadn't been replaced because they failed to
clock out during their 20 hour shift.
L72[02:24:21] <Solar_Oracle> And the
kicker? They'll be fired once their supervisor realizes they died
on the job.
L73[02:24:44] <raptop> hah
L74[02:27:13] <Solar_Oracle> Amusingly,
until April or so, it was even possible to make worlds in Stellaris
that existed for nothing than the sake of bureaucracy.
L75[02:28:50] <Solar_Oracle> Like you could
fill every building slot with administrative offices, and I'd often
have multiple planets like this in late games.
L76[02:29:04] <Solar_Oracle> Good
times.
L77[02:34:56] <raptop> "What does this
planet produce?" "Paperwork."
L78[02:35:33] <Solar_Oracle> Even more fun
when it's an ecumenopolis, but their power lies beyond building
slots.
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L84[03:47:53] <Eddi|zuHause> hi. been a
while since i played... i'm having trouble getting the game to
start some/most of the time. and get this backtrace:
https://pastebin.com/9N02aTpE
L85[03:55:12] <Eddi|zuHause> makes checking
for incompatible/obsolete mods kind of a pain...
L86[04:02:54] *
raptop would probably be forced to suggest asking on the
forums
L87[04:03:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i vaguely
remember being unable to even register on the forums last
time
L88[04:05:39] <raptop> blarg
L90[04:06:50] <Eddi|zuHause> kinda old
though
L91[04:10:55] <Eddi|zuHause> i do seem to
have a bugtracker account, but not a forum account
L92[04:17:03] <raptop> ...is it me or does
the bugtracker use wiki accounts?
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L109[07:38:25] <kubi> try with a vanilla
install
L110[07:38:32] <kubi> delete
everything
L111[07:38:57] <kubi> and build up the
mods slowly
L112[07:39:31] <Althego> "wipe them
out. all of them" :)
L113[07:39:55] <kubi> kill 'em all
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L116[08:21:32] <Althego> eh, the
differential equation stream is cancelled again
L117[08:21:47] <Althego> i have been
waiting for that for two weeks already
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L120[08:34:11] <Althego> guh
L121[08:36:04] <minas_tirith> Althego,
what stream
L122[08:38:16] <Althego> ollie's
differential equation stream. if you dont know what i am talking
about, it is guaranteed to be vtuber silliness
L123[08:39:40] <XXCoder> i heard new ksp
1.0 update will be last update?
L124[08:39:44] <minas_tirith> Do vtubers
teach math too
L125[08:39:51] <XXCoder> yes
L126[08:39:53] <flayer> XXCoder, last
major udpate, yeah, i think so
L127[08:40:00] <Althego> 1.12 is the last
update
L128[08:40:09] <Althego> although at least
one patch release is still expected
L129[08:40:11] <flayer> maybe a bugfix
patch
L130[08:40:12] <Althego> 1.12.1
L131[08:40:20] <XXCoder> id not be
surpised on minor fixes
L132[08:40:32] <XXCoder> its needed if you
want to show good software support
L133[08:41:22] <minas_tirith> Althego, do
they draw and animate it themselves?
L134[08:41:25] <Althego> it was stated
there may be bugfixes
L135[08:41:59] <XXCoder> i forgot what
software it was, but i remember one time they had last major update
to game, which added a major crash big
L136[08:42:01] <XXCoder> bug
L137[08:42:04] <Althego> most of them are
using models drawn and rigged by other people. i know of at least
one, juniper actias, who draws and rigs her models
L138[08:42:07] <XXCoder> then they never
updated it again
L139[08:42:14] <flayer> sadness
L140[08:43:16] <XXCoder> if i remember
right, newer version was a massive flop
L141[08:43:22] <XXCoder> people simply
didnt buy it
L142[08:43:41] <Althego> you dont need to
buy this and it doesnt crash either
L143[08:43:44] <XXCoder> probably due to
being unable to really play first one
L144[08:43:59] <flayer> deploying elevons
in an aerobraking formation is a great way to slow down for
landing
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L149[09:53:07] <Althego> heh i clicked the
free game trilogy on gog
L150[09:53:29] <Althego> now i have 101
games, and never had 100. the only problem is, it is 101h
L151[10:08:48] <darsie> 101th? 101
hex?
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L153[10:09:18] <darsie> free game
trilogy?
L154[10:09:25] <darsie> Why is it a
problem?
L155[10:10:26] <Althego> because i skipped
the 100h games
L156[10:12:44] <Eddi|zuHause> <kubi>
and build up the mods slowly <-- uhm, yes. that's what i was
trying to do. but the crash happens also in vanilla, and if you
then try adding mods one by one, it's hard to determine whether the
mod made it worse
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L158[10:16:14] <Eddi|zuHause> looks like
complete random chance (something like 1 in 6) that the game starts
up at all
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L161[11:03:16] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: if
it's any consolidation to you, 101h is prime.
L162[11:03:39] <Althego> eh
L163[11:18:26] <darsie> consolation
L164[11:19:46] <Althego> actually i dont
like primes
L165[11:20:57] <darsie> Do you like
cryptography?
L166[11:21:24] <Althego> no, not
really
L167[11:21:55] <darsie> Ok. I guess you
don't use HTTPSeverywhere, then.
L168[11:22:11] <Althego> i dont need to
like it to use it
L169[11:22:32] <darsie> It's
optional.
L170[11:30:24] <flayer> liking it is
optional
L171[11:30:52] <Althego> i am more of a
control engineering guy than a crypto guy
L172[12:01:39] <Mat2ch> Crypto is nice
stuff, but we sometimes make it awfully hard.
L173[12:02:48] <flayer> it was easy enough
to get encryption working on my website
L174[12:02:48] <Althego> a dad, a shark
and a chicken go to summer festival in minecraft
L175[12:03:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i've seen an
automatic chicken cooking machine in minecraft
L176[12:03:49] <Althego> add a tako
too
L177[12:04:01] <Althego> and a time
traveler
L178[12:04:04] <Althego> so they are all
coming
L179[12:04:12] <Althego> i can watch 5
streams in parallel. 3 is tops
L180[12:04:15] *
flayer slaps Althego
L181[12:04:32] <Althego> *cant watch
L182[12:10:17] <Althego> hehe they are
going to crash the serverwith this many people :)
L183[12:10:36] <Althego> kikkerikii
L184[12:13:45] <flayer> what are you
watching
L185[12:17:35] <Eddi|zuHause> you can
reduce streaming quality
L186[12:18:11] <Althego> doesnt help that
i lack sufficient brain capacity to process all of it
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L189[12:56:58] <Eddi|zuHause> having more
than one stream unmuted at a time is just asking for trouble
L190[12:57:30] <Althego> not if they have
separate audio. but now they are connected in some voice chat
L191[13:02:26] <darsie> I was testing the
range at which Bob can operate instruments on EVA and the
magentometer boom wasn't cooperative at all. So I set orbit and
oops, bob was in orbit, but not the ship :).
L192[13:04:13] <darsie> works in
orbit.
L193[13:11:02] <darsie> Will the
magnetometer work on the surface of Minmus?
L194[13:12:31] <darsie> It's not in the
wiki.
L195[13:17:28] <darsie> I tried to cheat
my ship to 0 m altitude to minmus and I got in a deep blue
environment. The ship was gone, Bob was still on camera, but
coudn't go on EVA. ESC didn't pop up the menu. I quit with
alt-f4.
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L197[13:41:40] <darsie> Will the
magnetometer work on the surface of Minmus? Nope.
L198[13:42:03] <darsie> That's appearently
not "In the vacuum of space."
L199[13:49:49] <flayer> you can only use
the extend-o-boom while in orbit afaik
L200[13:57:13] <darsie> Or while hopping
:).
L201[14:13:47] <flayer> when not
surfaced!
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L214[20:23:38] *
darsie competed the tech tree.
L215[20:23:43] <darsie> completed*
L216[20:23:58] <Althego> great
L217[20:24:40] <darsie> I forgot to add
picoports.
L218[20:24:53] <Althego> what is
that
L219[20:25:07] <darsie> mod. smaller than
the Junior Port.
L220[20:25:17] <darsie> For small
probes.
L221[20:25:19] <Althego> what does it
do?
L222[20:25:25] <darsie> docking
ports
L223[20:25:25] <Althego> for probes?
L224[20:26:17] <darsie> That's the most
common use case.
L225[20:28:18] <Althego> "i take
orvellian quotes for 800", lol gamesrs nexus steve
L226[20:32:38] <raptop> Is that a quote
about early flight?
L228[20:34:54] <Althego> after the quote,
tehre is the joke
L229[20:35:39] <Althego> good that they
are also criticizing the online acount required for win11
L230[20:35:55] <Althego> that is one of
the worst moves they could make
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L232[20:37:02] <umaxtu> I use pro so
*shrug*
L234[20:40:37] <darsie> .tell
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L236[20:58:48] <kubi> hmmm
L237[20:59:01] <kubi> the mouse wheel is
really backwards
L238[20:59:24] <kubi> quality control is
not the strength of this team
L239[20:59:28] <kubi> also
L240[21:00:47] <kubi> empty VAB - put down
the root (normal capsule) - right click on it to pop up the
tweakables - move the mouse onto the popup - capsule jumps
somewhere and then moves with the mouse
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L243[21:00:58] <kubi> just like left
mousebutton drag
L244[21:01:19] <kubi> so, wait for
1.12.1
L245[21:01:21] <kubi> at least
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