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L3[00:38:36] <Solar_Oracle> Howdy howdy howdy!
L4[00:40:00] <Solar_Oracle> As a warmup for my inevitable Stellaris AAR (which, unlike George R. R. Martin's conclusion to the Song of Ice and Fire Series, will actually be released before we all expire), I'm going to do an awful Let's Read.
L5[00:40:26] <Solar_Oracle> Because I need the practice and I get through those things like a Bending robot goes through booze and cigars.
L6[00:43:07] <Solar_Oracle> I am taking recommendations, but I advise you: I need some truly awful rubbish. Preferably science-fiction.
L7[00:46:35] <Solar_Oracle> I'm leaning towards the first in a series of truly awful books: "A Hymn Before Battle" by John Ringo.
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L11[01:51:13] <XXCoder> you want really shitty books? guns of twospace
L12[01:51:23] <XXCoder> it has one other book, forgot name
L13[01:51:44] <XXCoder> universe ideas is very interesting, but story and some stuff is crap
L14[01:52:02] <XXCoder> series was killed after 2 books so some stuff is never explained
L15[01:52:15] <XXCoder> that shitty enough Solar_Oracle
L16[02:07:38] <Solar_Oracle> Wait, language?
L17[02:07:45] * Solar_Oracle covers their eyes in horror.
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L19[02:11:43] <raptop> sigh
L20[02:12:32] <raptop> John Ringo books seem like they'd be tempting to make into cheesy movies
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L22[02:17:38] <Solar_Oracle> I've read one of the sequels (Watch on the Rhine) but never the original: The Source of all evil.
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L25[02:30:31] <XXCoder> oops heh
L26[02:30:35] <XXCoder> sorry
L27[02:32:00] <raptop> yeah, it might have been a bit much
L28[02:32:18] * raptop hands a ticket with the standard fine for violating the verabl morality statute
L29[02:32:32] <XXCoder> yes, thought cop
L30[02:32:33] <XXCoder> ;)
L31[02:32:42] <XXCoder> yeah usually careful enough but forgot
L32[02:39:53] <Solar_Oracle> Probably doesn't know how to use the three seashells, either.
L33[02:41:00] <XXCoder> guns of two space is really not great, but in least you get to enjoy really unique hyperspace type
L34[02:41:05] <XXCoder> its right there in name
L35[02:44:37] <XXCoder> ah yes first book is Two-Space War, second one is guns of two space
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L37[02:51:38] <Solar_Oracle> Yes, but how bad is it compared to Kratman?
L38[02:52:19] <XXCoder> not too familiar with kratman
L39[02:55:25] <Solar_Oracle> Oho ho ho ho.
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L41[02:55:49] <Solar_Oracle> He wrote a Posleen book where former Waffen SS soldiers were rejuvinated and impressed into the war.
L42[02:56:57] <Solar_Oracle> It starts off as an excuse for black uniforms, ginormous tanks that would put Baneblades to shame and spirals into outright Waffen SS apologia.
L43[02:57:15] <Solar_Oracle> And the Posleen are somehow a threat despite literally being too stupid to breathe.
L44[02:59:08] <Solar_Oracle> Just take a look at the cover! https://d28hgpri8am2if.cloudfront.net/book_images/cvr9781416521204_9781416521204_hr.jpg
L45[03:00:24] <Solar_Oracle> The monstrous tanks on the right side also sabot discarding, fin stabilized penetrators with several grams worth of antimatter, because that's supposed to make sense.
L46[03:02:21] <Solar_Oracle> The humans also design anti-Posleen antigravity mines that somehow ended up being less destructive than real life bounding mines.
L47[03:05:38] <Solar_Oracle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVJJMlDn41o
L48[03:10:31] <Solar_Oracle> I still don't know what this is about, but a Turian cowboy just feels right.
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L54[04:14:38] <raptop> ...the only reason I can think of for discarding sabot silliness if you're launching multiple grams of antimatter is to get the projectile farther from you
L55[04:15:20] <XXCoder> solar LOL yeah i read those series
L56[04:15:30] <XXCoder> very low iq sci fi
L57[04:15:45] <minas_tirith> XXCoder, tell me
L58[04:16:43] <XXCoder> tell what?
L59[04:17:35] <raptop> Like, "multiple grams" could easily be in the yield range of a B61
L60[04:17:38] <minas_tirith> XXCoder, the name of the books
L61[04:17:55] <XXCoder> oh uhh cant remember lol luckly you can google posleen
L62[04:24:53] * raptop wonders if the Polseen drive bolos, or something
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L71[06:01:02] <Althego> not zombanwa, zonnichiwa lol
L72[06:11:18] <UmbralRaptop> …oh
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L84[08:14:20] * minas_tirith inspects sandbox
L85[08:14:36] <sandbox> nothing to see here
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L88[08:44:57] * Deddly inspects minas_tirith
L89[08:45:14] * minas_tirith inspects Deddly
L90[08:45:53] <Deddly> <MINIONS_FACE> Whaaaat?! </MINIONS_FACE>
L91[08:46:15] <Mat2ch> I'm so happy that you can't use memes here :P
L92[08:46:48] <Deddly> It is one of the small joys of IRC.
L93[08:47:24] <Althego> you can
L94[08:47:31] <Althego> but people have to click the links
L95[08:47:48] <Deddly> I don't completely object to them in the appropriate places, but in a chat area like this... no, that would be terribly annoying. And of course, back in the day, IRC "popups" were common.
L96[08:48:29] <Deddly> Giant walls of coloured ASCII art were technically memes of the day.
L97[09:04:13] <Deddly> O great bot of wonders, would you be so kind as to bestow upon your faithful follower the chanlog for his perusal?
L98[09:04:13] <Mod9000> I keep channel logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
L99[09:04:22] <Deddly> I thank you
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L103[09:48:07] <darsie> I'm so used to pressing TZ prior to launch, that I did it on the Mun and was surprised that the rocket instantly took off.
L104[09:55:38] <Deddly> darsie, as in, you forgot that the engine was already activated?
L105[09:56:20] <Deddly> darsie, how did you get Henke Kerman to pick up so much, and does it affect anything in game?
L106[09:56:27] <darsie> yes
L107[09:56:43] <darsie> I just let him pick up two things.
L108[09:56:52] <darsie> In the thing menu.
L109[09:56:58] <darsie> Pick up part
L110[09:57:20] <darsie> idk, I put it in the rocket storage.
L111[09:58:22] <darsie> I wanted to get my crew back to Kerbin and do Minmus surface science next, but I accidently had too much dv, so I'm going straight for Minmus.
L112[09:59:26] <Deddly> Do you know if the kerbal could walk with all that load?
L113[10:00:43] <darsie> I have to try ...
L114[10:06:38] <darsie> Walks fine with 60 l and 90 kg.
L115[10:08:09] <darsie> Jumps much lower, though.
L116[10:08:28] <darsie> That's on the Mun. Haven't tried on Kerbin.
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L120[11:03:20] <Deddly> Sorry I got disconnected. That's interesting, Darsie. I haven't actually played around much with that functionality yet. Is it just the lower gravity, I wonder?
L121[11:05:49] <Mat2ch> there is a weight limit and it has something to do with the local gravity
L122[11:06:04] <Mat2ch> there are parts you can move in Kerbin which you can't move on Eve for example.
L123[11:06:54] <Deddly> That sounds right, but doesn't the Kerbal's weight limit change, or is that a fixed number?
L124[11:08:18] <Mat2ch> it changes, yes
L125[11:08:27] <Deddly> Darsie, Q&A say there is a cheat that allows kerbals to carry more than their limit. Do you have it activated, maybe?
L126[11:10:08] <darsie> no
L127[11:10:29] <darsie> Not me. Maybe some other entity.
L128[11:10:56] <darsie> But also the volume limit is exceeded.
L129[11:11:51] <Deddly> Which version are you playing, and do you have any mods?
L130[11:13:19] <darsie> Where's that cheat?
L131[11:13:52] <darsie> 1.11.2.3077 (linuxplayer)en-us
L132[11:14:00] <darsie> 1.11.1 Making History
L133[11:14:05] <darsie> 1.6.1 Breaking Ground
L134[11:14:29] <Deddly> darsie, it's in the normal cheat menu under Kerbals>Inventory
L135[11:15:15] <darsie> KER, dated quicksaves, EER
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L137[11:16:04] <darsie> I don't see Kerbals/Inventory
L138[11:18:17] <Deddly> Checking...
L139[11:18:27] <darsie> EEX*
L140[11:20:49] <Deddly> You're on Linux?
L141[11:21:22] <darsie> Yeah. I'm not running linuxplayer in a Linux VM in Windows or so :).
L142[11:23:47] <Deddly> Wow OK. I am so curious as to why you would choose to run the Linux version instead of the Windows one. My impression from other people's comments is that the Linux version has more bugs
L143[11:24:18] <darsie> Because I don't have Windows because Windows is evil.
L144[11:24:50] <Deddly> And yet you do
L145[11:24:58] <darsie> Where?
L146[11:25:09] <darsie> My washer?
L147[11:25:28] <Deddly> Oh wait... I missed the important "not" in your sentence above
L148[11:25:34] <darsie> :)
L149[11:26:15] <Deddly> So that makes perfect sense. I actually thought for a moment there that you were running Linux in a VM on Windows and I had so many questions...
L150[11:26:38] <Deddly> Most of those questions were repetitions of "But why??"
L151[11:31:13] <Deddly> darsie, turns out that cheat hasn't been released yet. Consider this an accidental feature reveal, LOL
L152[11:31:50] <minas_tirith> Deddly, hi
L153[11:32:16] <Deddly> minas_tirith, hi
L154[11:33:18] <darsie> ok :)
L155[11:34:39] <darsie> Ahh, I did a messy landing twice ... because I had orbital navigation.
L156[11:35:10] <darsie> Normally it switches to surface navigation, automatically, IIRC.
L157[11:35:26] <darsie> Minmus
L158[11:37:38] <Deddly> Yeah it usually does
L159[11:40:42] <Deddly> But I find that if you manually switch between them at some point, the game sometimes interprets that as you wanting full manual control over its function
L160[11:42:34] <Deddly> darsie, seems like your heavy-lifting kerbal is a bug
L161[11:42:49] <Deddly> Well, he's a kerbal, but also a bug
L162[11:43:03] <minas_tirith> He's getting superkerbals
L163[11:43:29] <Deddly> Seems to be limited to Linux. Anyone else here with a Linux install who can check it out?
L164[11:56:01] <Deddly> Here's your opportunity to file a bug report entitles "Superkerbals on Linux". Don't let the opportunity go to waste!
L165[11:56:07] <Deddly> entitled*
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L167[12:10:46] <minas_tirith> GlassYuri, hi
L168[12:13:03] <darsie> Hmm, I need an impactor for Minmus.
L169[12:13:54] <Deddly> Jeb makes a good impactor
L170[12:15:19] <darsie> heh
L171[12:15:39] <darsie> I could "rescue" Kerbals from Minmus orbit :).
L172[12:16:16] <Deddly> Hmmmmm!
L173[12:16:39] <darsie> I mean, would you rather die in orbit or impact?
L174[12:17:07] <darsie> Well, we know little about Kerbals. They don't need food ...
L175[12:17:28] <Deddly> ...or life
L176[12:17:54] <darsie> Yeah, but if you see it that way, that's true for humans, too.
L177[12:18:23] <Deddly> Shhh! Don't give away my secret plans!
L178[12:22:40] <minas_tirith> ,google sims psychopathic gameplay
L179[12:27:50] <Deddly> !nextlunch
L180[12:27:51] <LunchBot> Deddly: Permadongled water.
L181[12:28:33] <Deddly> That sounds nutritious
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L183[12:31:01] <minas_tirith> !nextlunch
L184[12:31:01] <LunchBot> minas_tirith: Tacos.
L185[12:31:05] <minas_tirith> !nextlunch
L186[12:31:05] <LunchBot> minas_tirith: Doritos Mountain Dew AMP Game Fuel Battle Chest (with chance for rare cosmetics!)
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L188[13:05:32] <darsie> BTW, my impactor: https://i.postimg.cc/fZ7FjS2F/screenshot580.png
L189[13:31:27] <packbart> Wolfhound and Clydesdale are not exactly what I would expect from your usual minimalistic builds ;)
L190[13:35:32] <darsie> :)
L191[13:35:44] <darsie> Well, I didn't know how much impact I needed :).
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L193[13:39:36] <darsie> Hmm, first impact far away gave 100% science on the seismometer. https://i.postimg.cc/DvqSz3QS/screenshot581.png
L194[13:40:13] <darsie> 2* scientist, 45% science rate
L195[13:41:21] <darsie> Hmm, maybe I should get a seismometer contract first? :)
L196[13:41:38] <darsie> Let's see how 'later' works :).
L197[13:41:52] <darsie> Hey, I have some science, wanna buy it? :{
L198[13:41:54] <darsie> :)
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L211[16:41:39] <Althego> til the past tense of yeet is yote
L212[16:41:58] <Althego> i saw it as yeeted everywhere
L213[16:42:06] <Mat2ch> uhm
L214[16:42:11] <Mat2ch> :D
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L217[17:04:07] <Guest16235> I'm ready!
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L219[17:04:42] <Althego> unit ready
L220[17:04:44] <Althego> yes sir
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L223[17:30:10] <raptop> 1.12: not available in the store yet
L224[17:30:22] <Althego> unit lost
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L226[17:33:05] <Althego> raptop: it is there for me
L227[17:33:34] * raptop does another hard refresh
L228[17:33:36] <raptop> yep, there now
L229[17:34:24] *** Althego changes topic to 'Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.12 | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | < Solar_Oracle> What can you do on Venus? Unless you put up a Tibanna gas refinery and casino, absolutely nothing.'
L230[17:35:18] <raptop> ah, I was too slow on the /topic
L231[17:35:27] *** Althego changes topic to 'Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.12 bit.ly/ksp112update | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | < Solar_Oracle> What can you do on Venus? Unless you put up a Tibanna gas refinery and casino, absolutely nothing.'
L232[17:38:05] <Althego> oh no i forgot about the calli karaoke
L233[17:43:35] <Althego> i guess i will have to console myself with the ame heyayay
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L238[18:03:43] * a_flayer downloads the latest KSP
L239[18:08:22] <Althego> whould we wait for the usual .1 patch?
L240[18:09:33] <packbart> did we ever?
L241[18:09:46] <a_flayer> i should probably wait for mods
L242[18:09:46] <Althego> sometimes i did
L243[18:09:56] <Althego> because it usually comes out in a week
L244[18:09:59] <packbart> my mods seem to be working so far
L245[18:10:19] <a_flayer> you've just convinced me to paste them right in
L246[18:10:19] <Althego> there was some unity upgrade too
L247[18:10:29] <a_flayer> hopefully less CPU usage
L248[18:11:09] <a_flayer> i've gone very mod-lite ever since the expansions came along
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L251[18:14:49] <Izaya> 1.12 eh
L252[18:14:57] <Izaya> guess I'll have to do a new mod setup in a month
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L254[18:16:07] <Althego> but you dont need to do it ever again :)
L255[18:17:00] <Izaya> but it's part of the Experience™
L256[18:17:26] <packbart> I just copy them over from the previous version
L257[18:19:37] <a_flayer> oh, is there a built-in alarm clock now?
L258[18:20:10] <Althego> yes
L259[18:20:23] * a_flayer deletes triggertech
L260[18:21:23] <Althego> as things go the stock versions are usually at least slightly inferior to the mods
L261[18:21:41] <a_flayer> the mod was laggy
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L263[18:29:55] <packbart> I only have 93 mods installed. nowhere near LGG levels
L264[18:30:01] <a_flayer> Althego, it has all the function I need
L265[18:30:20] <Althego> i still miss the torque value from ker
L266[18:30:33] <Althego> the stock delta v tool doesnt have that
L267[18:30:39] <a_flayer> I have 8 mods now, half of which are tiny alterations of convenience
L268[18:31:12] <a_flayer> two add parts/function - station science and snacks - and two are graphical mods
L269[18:31:14] <Izaya> wish I had more RAM so I could run more mods B)
L270[18:33:07] <packbart> I removed the graphical mods. I found them to be too buggy or weird
L271[18:33:24] <Althego> i remeber how i waited for the stable 64 bit version for graphical mods
L272[18:33:27] <packbart> EVE's clouds would rotate with the ship, not the planet
L273[18:33:33] <a_flayer> i got clouds and engine effects
L274[18:33:39] <Izaya> 64-bit was always stable
L275[18:33:50] <Izaya> on linux :3
L276[18:33:59] <Althego> and then they looked kind of ugly, for example the missing antialiasing of the far away hills on the horizon made it unbearable
L277[18:33:59] <raptop> All hail the penguin
L278[18:34:24] <Althego> so those were out. i used to have chatterer
L279[18:34:30] <Althego> which adds quite a lot of atmosphere
L280[18:34:41] <a_flayer> packbart, i used to that problem, but it doesn't seem to apply anymore
L281[18:34:53] <Althego> but since after ker was mostly replaced by the stock tool, that was the last remaining mod, so i jus got rid of it
L282[18:35:27] <raptop> stock kRPC wen
L283[18:35:33] <packbart> I need my KER HUDs
L284[18:37:34] <darsie> With a complete tech tree I'm entitled to KER's landing mark, right?
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L288[18:56:27] <minas_tirith> UmbralRaptop, hi
L289[18:59:47] <raptop> was messing with my phone wifi
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L295[19:51:03] <Mat2ch> when did 1.12 drop?
L296[19:52:42] <raptop> few hours ago
L297[20:04:55] <Mat2ch> Nice
L298[20:05:16] <Althego> it is not even 1.69 :)
L299[20:10:03] <raptop> Also, there was never a version 0.69
L300[20:10:47] <Althego> there was never a 1.2.3
L301[20:11:12] <raptop> There was at least a 1.1.1 and a 1.11.1
L302[20:29:23] <Althego> heh i am an hour late to bed
L303[20:32:24] <packbart> there needs to be a 1.12.1 - I already broke the fireworks ;)
L304[20:32:37] <packbart> the launch button disappeard and the PAW sliders no longer work
L305[20:33:28] <packbart> hm. or maybe that is the intended behaviour. I'll try again
L306[20:33:56] <Althego> test your might! mortal kombat!
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L308[20:36:52] <packbart> oh, me stupid. I guess the probe core ran out of power. everything ok
L309[20:38:03] <darsie> Do all pilots still have all SAS directions?
L310[20:38:22] <darsie> all Kerbals*
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L312[20:39:50] <packbart> maybe
L313[20:39:58] <Althego> cant find it in the fixes
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L315[20:49:02] <darsie> My mouse wheel is reversed in 1.12.
L316[20:49:29] <darsie> I'll remove mods.
L317[20:52:59] <Mat2ch> nah, could be to a Unity update.
L318[20:53:07] <darsie> yeah. still.
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L320[20:55:24] <a_flayer> indeed, it will take some getting used to if i can't get it reversed
L321[20:56:15] <darsie> This has happened before.
L322[21:00:23] <darsie> RMB turning of scene is slower. I need 8 RMB swipes for 360 deg in hte VAB and 6 swipes on the launchpad.
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L328[22:00:27] <Mat2ch> For KSP there's a config option to invert the mouse
L329[22:00:35] <Mat2ch> maybe editing the config necessary.
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L340[22:57:58] <Guest06457> Hello all
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L342[23:02:50] <raptop> 124 seconds
L343[23:17:11] <darsie> gn
L344[23:18:34] <raptop> \o
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