OCLogs: 2021-05-04.log

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L3[00:39:53] <Guest87311> hi

L4[00:39:55] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest87311

L5[00:40:17] <Guest87311> ksp is awesome

L6[00:40:32] <Guest87311> we can all agree

L7[00:40:49] <raptop> in conclusion, that is how jebediah kerman caused the great booster shortage (2011-2021)

L8[00:41:08] <Guest87311> lol

L9[00:41:24] <Guest87311> i have a sandbox mode where jeb bill bob and val are dead

L10[00:41:38] <Guest87311> but a science mode where i have all of them alive

L11[00:42:21] <raptop> I mean, they respawn at default difficulty settings

L12[00:42:36] <Guest87311> well i had default settings

L13[00:42:58] <Guest87311> i think when you make a kerbal lost in action too many times they go k.i.a

L14[00:46:47] <Guest87311> stonkz

L15[00:46:50] <Guest87311> stonks

L16[00:47:05] <Guest87311> this is basiclly ksp discord but for underaged people

L17[00:47:30] <raptop> uh

L18[00:48:39] <Guest87311> ?

L19[00:49:01] <raptop> I'd assume that if anything, this channel skews older than the KSP discord

L20[00:50:15] <Guest87311> oh ok

L21[00:50:20] <Guest87311> i didnt know

L22[00:51:50] <FLHerne> Yeah, really young people here is basically you

L23[00:52:07] <FLHerne> and maybe TristenKSP, unless you're TristenKSP under another name again

L24[00:58:43] <Guest87311> well im not

L25[00:59:43] <Guest87311> gilly takes 4920

L26[00:59:43] <Guest87311> delta v right?

L27[01:00:00] <Guest87311> low gilly orbit not landing btw

L28[01:01:31] <raptop> uh, from where?

L29[01:02:15] <Guest87311> kerbin

L30[01:03:03] <raptop> Well, the first ΔV map in the /topic says 3300+950+430+80+60+410 (5230 m/s), so maybe

L31[01:03:11] <raptop> bleh, it's been too long since I've played much

L32[01:03:53] <Guest87311> from this delta v map https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png its says low gilly orbit 4920 and low mun orbit 5050

L33[01:05:03] <raptop> Ah, I was using the worst case plane change numbers

L34[01:05:30] <raptop> But either way, ~5 km/s for a 1-way trip

L35[01:06:20] <raptop> Note that depending on how you handle Eve orbit entry and setting up the Gilly rendezvous, it's possible to accidentally have much higher ΔV costs

L36[01:06:39] <Guest87311> i have a rocket that was designed for lko and has 10k delta v

L37[01:06:43] <Guest87311> i mean duna

L38[01:06:49] <Guest87311> gosh my memory is trash

L39[01:07:10] <raptop> 10 km/s should have lots of headway for a round trip

L40[01:07:19] <Guest87311> it was a one way

L41[01:07:31] <Guest87311> it was my first duna mission on my science mode

L42[01:08:02] <Guest87311> and i didnt launch at a transfer window

L43[01:08:52] <Guest87311> why is there so many banned users

L44[01:09:17] <raptop> We've had issues in the past

L45[01:09:25] <Guest87311> o

L46[01:10:03] <Guest87311> is swearing allowed? if its not then that probaly explains why there is so many banned people

L47[01:10:19] <raptop> It isn't in that we follow that part of the forum rules

L48[01:10:33] <raptop> And we've had people, uh, blow up from being told that

L49[01:10:43] <raptop> Also sometimes just spammers

L50[01:11:01] <Guest87311> oh

L51[01:11:19] <Guest87311> i get some issues with mods

L52[01:12:26] <Guest87311> i got hyperedit but when it loads at the end it says verifying expansion breaking ground and then it never loads load time without hyper edit 4 mins and loaded and with hyper edit it was like 15 mins and didnt load

L53[01:12:32] <Guest87311> so yea

L54[01:12:48] <raptop> whelp

L55[01:13:03] <raptop> That said, doesn't the debug menu let you teleport craft into various orbits now?

L56[01:13:46] <Guest87311> well uh i wanted to change ever planet and moons orbit to be 10x closer to the thing that it orbits

L57[01:13:55] <Guest87311> which you cant do with the debug menu

L58[01:14:06] <raptop> ah

L59[01:15:16] <Guest87311> id rate breaking ground 7 jebs out of a bill - Matt Lowne

L60[01:16:47] <Guest87311> is there a way to fix the hyperedit glitch that i was getting?

L61[01:18:28] <Guest87311> bill and val are underrated

L62[01:18:38] <Guest87311> most people only use jeb and bob

L63[01:21:48] <Guest87311> is there a way to save nothing?

L64[01:21:59] <Guest87311> im watching piolet1549 stream

L65[01:22:08] <Guest87311> and he has a save file that has 0 parts

L66[01:22:12] <Guest87311> but how??????

L67[01:23:30] <raptop> I guess you could do some silliness with config files

L68[01:24:14] <Guest87311> oh

L69[01:24:23] <Guest87311> im not that into file editing

L70[01:24:42] <Guest87311> what is your favorite rocket]

L71[01:26:06] <raptop> In real life? The Soyuz-U

L72[01:26:43] <Guest87311> my favorite would prob be the s-310 sounding rocket made by jaxa

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L74[01:27:13] <raptop> Mainly because it holds the records for most launches (786) and most launches in one year (47)

L75[01:28:19] <Guest87311> oh

L76[01:28:24] <Guest87311> thas alot

L77[01:29:10] <Guest87311> this channel is older then discord itself

L78[01:29:31] <raptop> If you've seen SpaceX talking about wanting to reach 48 launches per year, that's why

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L80[01:30:19] <Guest87311> oh

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L82[01:31:07] <packbart> 0 parts or 0 zero flights? the latter is easy, just don't have any craft out. the former is probably possible, too, but I don't see what it would achieve

L83[01:33:27] <Guest87311> e

L84[01:35:44] <Guest87311> epic

L85[01:37:05] <Guest87311> how do i make an account on espernet i dont want to be guest

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L87[01:56:21] <packbart> I think you can change the nickname even in the web thingy at connnct or with /nick someothername

L88[01:56:40] <packbart> or use an IRC client

L89[02:00:04] <raptop> yep, modulo whatever is registered

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L95[03:06:11] <Althego> https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/status/298/what-were-learning-about-ingenuitys-flight-control-and-aerodynamic-performance/

L96[03:06:32] <Althego> another heli event in many hours https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/status/298/what-were-learning-about-ingenuitys-flight-control-and-aerodynamic-performance/

L97[03:06:35] <Althego> not flight

L98[03:06:53] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S486uTXwk7I

L99[03:07:00] <Althego> i wanted this, not the same twice

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L102[04:07:47] <namedomran> im having a problem with b9 part switch constantly giving me this error, if i ignore it, almost all fuel tanks are missing from the game. does anyone know how to fix it? http://prntscr.com/12gejjj

L103[04:19:46] <Althego> looks like you are missing NuclearSaltWater whatever that is

L104[04:20:18] <Althego> i guess it is another mod

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L113[05:21:58] <namedomran> fixed it, thanks. just needed to reinstall b9 hx and b9 hx reconfig

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L133[07:49:10] <RoboFreak> oh no i didnt notice, scott's 3rd lego stream

L134[07:49:29] <RoboFreak> which is basically he answering random viewer questions

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L141[08:27:48] <Mat2ch> wen hop?

L142[08:30:04] <Deddly> Evening

L143[08:31:06] <Althego> also f9 launch

L144[08:31:17] <Deddly> Mat2ch, Everyday Astronaut's stream starts at 19:00 CET, so a couple of hours after that, I'd guess

L145[08:31:31] <Althego> nsf as usual start early

L146[08:31:33] <Deddly> 17:00 UTC/GMT

L147[08:31:36] <Althego> and they are going to keep talking for hours

L148[08:32:05] <Deddly> They do go on a bit

L149[08:32:54] <Deddly> Thing is with Starship, since SpaceX doesn't officially give the time for testing, they have to start early

L150[08:39:10] <Althego> not really

L151[08:39:37] <Althego> they said several times, that from specific event they can pretty much predict to the second when the launch happens

L152[08:39:53] <Althego> i guess they could just start from village evacuation

L153[08:48:08] <Mat2ch> but where's the suspense then? :D

L154[08:52:00] <Mat2ch> 100 km/h wind gusts here. In May. That is very unusual and disturbing.

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L158[10:11:50] <Guest91516> hello!

L159[10:11:58] <Althego> hi

L160[10:12:00] <Mod9000> Hello, Althego

L161[10:12:02] <Althego> oh no

L162[10:12:08] <sandbox> heh

L163[10:12:10] <Althego> i hate when that happens

L164[10:12:18] <Althego> it never works correctly

L165[10:13:32] <Guest91516> How's everyone doin?

L166[10:14:08] <Deddly> Hello, Althego

L167[10:14:11] <Deddly> Hi there Guest91516

L168[10:14:32] <Deddly> All's good, you?

L169[10:15:02] <Guest91516> Yeah I'm great thanks

L170[10:15:13] <Deddly> Mat2ch, that's some extremely high winds you have there

L171[10:16:08] <Althego> Ride and fly high, high, high, high

L172[10:16:08] <Althego> Very very high, in the sky!

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L174[10:17:43] <Deddly> Bye

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L176[11:11:18] <Mat2ch> Deddly: 5/7, would launch.

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L215[14:38:28] <Althego> may the 4th be with you

L216[14:38:34] <Althego> and i got the astra

L217[14:41:56] <raptop> hm, new tako outfit and then photakographing various pokemon

L218[14:42:32] <Althego> but before that kiara

L219[14:42:33] <JVFoxy> .. rather may flowers but maybe I'm weird

L220[14:42:40] <Althego> both are outside of my range

L221[14:42:53] <Althego> so i can watch them next morning

L222[14:46:22] <JVFoxy> so.. SN15 on May 4th... of course it has to be..

L223[14:46:52] <Mat2ch> well, at least 3 hours until hop

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L226[15:02:01] <raptop> Apparently VITAS should check their connection

L227[15:44:43] <Mat2ch> Scrub :(

L228[15:48:07] <Althego> check yo stagin

L229[15:48:41] <JVFoxy> got a kerbal funny but video is in crap quality. :(

L230[15:49:14] <JVFoxy> was streaming to a friend, jet buggy I built. kerbal gets out of rear command pod, I guess got stuck in jet stream as engine was powering down. Ends up spinning like a top on the ladder

L231[15:49:44] <JVFoxy> buggy clips a corner of the terrain and launches spinning kerbal into the air. survives the landing though, buggy not so much

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L233[15:52:26] <Althego> in a few hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpl_JnG7rcg

L234[15:54:43] <Althego> heh this intersects with the heli presentation

L235[15:55:51] <Mat2ch> no hop :(

L236[15:55:58] <Althego> cancelled?

L237[15:57:07] <Mat2ch> scrub.

L238[15:57:16] <Mat2ch> Probably because of bad weather

L239[15:57:19] <Mat2ch> it's raining

L240[15:57:20] <Althego> at least it is not in parallel

L241[15:57:31] <Althego> with the orbital launch

L242[15:57:33] <Mat2ch> and it's going to rain there the next few days

L243[15:58:01] <Althego> although it would have been interesting to see spacex and nsf double stream these

L244[15:58:17] <Althego> (2x2 stream)

L245[15:59:48] <Mat2ch> thunderstorms until Thursday.

L246[15:59:52] <Mat2ch> So next try maybe Friday?

L247[15:59:57] <Althego> next week

L248[16:00:00] <Althego> again

L249[16:01:31] <Mat2ch> Friday or next Tuesday.

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L252[16:09:00] <Althego> with this long of a wait, it betterworks this time

L253[16:09:48] <Mat2ch> yeah

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L258[17:03:44] <raptop> Apparently helicopters can experience UB https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/status/298/what-were-learning-about-ingenuitys-flight-control-and-aerodynamic-performance/

L259[17:10:44] <Mat2ch> UB?

L260[17:12:19] <FLHerne> undefined behaviour?

L261[17:12:40] <raptop> yep

L262[17:12:41] <Mat2ch> the article read like they tried to get rid of all undefined behaviour

L263[17:12:53] <raptop> also they did

L264[17:15:03] <Althego> yes, they wanted to transition between ground and air to avoid parts of the state space that are poorly modeled

L265[17:15:44] <Althego> got up to level 40 in the cell cluster polygon thing

L266[17:15:53] <Althego> 10 more and i can get a frigate

L267[17:22:18] <Althego> *transition fast

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L275[18:16:29] <TwistenX> a

L276[18:17:12] <Althego> sad the smol shark

L277[18:17:17] <TwistenX> I am alive

L278[18:17:23] <Althego> still alive

L279[18:17:45] <TwistenX> maybe

L280[18:18:12] <TwistenX> Has anything happened to KSP since I've been gone

L281[18:18:20] <Althego> no

L282[18:18:33] <TwistenX> m

L283[18:20:06] <TwistenX> I saw that Starship had another launch, however. Was that SN15?

L284[18:20:19] <Althego> no launch

L285[18:20:35] <Althego> they wanted to have one but then decided not to

L286[18:20:53] <TwistenX> >:(

L287[18:20:59] <TwistenX> Elon stop delaying things

L288[18:21:04] <Althego> maybe the last fog explosion made them more cautious

L289[18:22:41] <TwistenX> Maybe

L290[18:22:58] <FLHerne> There was a Starlink launch, and another in an hour or so

L291[18:23:03] <FLHerne> on Falcon 9

L292[18:23:07] <TwistenX> oh

L293[18:23:08] <flayer> i gotta poop

L294[18:23:13] <TwistenX> cool

L295[18:23:34] <flayer> not that cool, it's a daily event

L296[18:23:42] <TwistenX> I think cloud weather is easier to predict from space than on earth

L297[18:25:28] <TwistenX> Because you can see the clouds from an entire 5/8ths of the Earth, so you can predict SUPER future cloud covers, depending on how good you are at that

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L299[18:26:49] <raptop> for related reasons, weather prediction didn't really start as a formal thing until the invention of the telegraph

L300[18:27:10] <TwistenX> Oh! You know what would be a good idea for Kerbal Space Program 2? Weather! Depending on your difficulty setting depends on the maximum severity and possibility of certain weather! (You can also turn on/off weather in the custom difficulty.)

L301[18:27:28] <Althego> some people still say, they are going to believe it if the name is changed from meteorology to meteoronomy :)

L302[18:27:36] <Althego> (like astrology-astronomy)

L303[18:27:44] <TwistenX> no

L304[18:28:00] <TwistenX> (softly)

L305[18:28:00] <TwistenX> Don't.

L306[18:28:04] <Althego> believe me, weather sounds easy, it is not

L307[18:28:34] <Althego> especialyl if it has real physics consequences

L308[18:28:41] <Althego> aside from fancy lighting effects

L309[18:28:42] <TwistenX> Well, Armstrong predicted the cloud weather practically perfectly on Apollo 11.

L310[18:28:58] <Althego> the weather runs itself

L311[18:29:09] <Althego> in simulation not even time is flowing if you dont make it so

L312[18:29:32] <raptop> The trick is to get reasonable fidelity without eating enormous amounts of CPU/memory

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L314[18:30:01] <Althego> i think clouds could be enough

L315[18:30:06] <Althego> they could run in the shaders or something

L316[18:30:17] <raptop> floofy clouds would certainly look nice

L317[18:30:30] <TwistenX> Imagine the max severity for wind is 100km/h and during launch the rocket's just like; " i want to crash now weee "

L318[18:30:39] <Althego> hehe

L319[18:30:43] <Althego> windshear

L320[18:30:58] <Althego> that would be funny

L321[18:30:59] <raptop> lighning strikes :D

L322[18:31:21] <raptop> Anyway, KSP rockets tend to be very resistant to aerodynamic breakup compared with real ones

L323[18:31:21] <TwistenX> KSP Noobs: "hMmMm I wOnDeR wHy ThAt HaPpEnEd?"

L324[18:31:24] <Althego> going up in moderate wind, then suddenly you get hit with severe wind and the rocket explodes

L325[18:31:40] <TwistenX> the stages just fall apart and the struts break off XD

L326[18:31:43] <Althego> these iare all nice things

L327[18:31:52] <Althego> but believe me, doing thes is not at all easy

L328[18:32:02] <raptop> (Kerbal engineering is grossly underrated. Just look at the unlimited restarts, and deep throttling capabilities of their engines. And the bells are so rugged that you can land on them!)

L329[18:32:05] <TwistenX> I would love to see this as a real feature in KSP2 or as a mod for KSP.

L330[18:32:12] <Althego> once i was fighting some windshear and microburst bugs for weeks

L331[18:32:43] <raptop> I know that back in the 32bit days, someone was trying to do a weather sim, but was running into eg: compute limits

L332[18:32:45] <TwistenX> Weather would make KSP2 feel so much more like real life

L333[18:33:03] <Althego> the engines are so strong because they are actually made of metal, unlike the other parts which float, those are probably made of cardboard

L334[18:33:39] <Althego> anyway, trust me, you dont want weather

L335[18:33:44] <raptop> carbon fiber, I think

L336[18:33:52] <Althego> there are thousand more things they could do

L337[18:34:02] <Althego> ksp2 is way too ambitious to begin with

L338[18:34:11] <Althego> with colonies and stuff

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L341[18:35:21] <TwistenX> Well, I mean, if they made it so if you're not looking at something or an object is too far away to be seen, they could just make the object disappear from view until you get close enough or you look at it, that could save processing space.

L342[18:35:48] <TwistenX> It will physically be there, but not visually.

L343[18:35:49] <Althego> that is the oldest trick in tyhe book

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L345[18:36:14] <TwistenX> Then they should use it, especially with how big of a game KSP2 should be.

L346[18:36:50] <Althego> distance is already extremely limiting the game. like the physics limit

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L348[18:40:26] <TwistenX> Like, if you can't see something in Kerbin's night sky, just make it disappear from view, but still allow it to physically influence the gameplay. Or, if there's a graphics quality setting added, depending on how high and how low it is set, depends on how good the game looks and how far away you'll be able to see something.

L349[18:40:59] <TwistenX> I also would like a sky-watching update with telescopes.

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L352[18:44:51] <Althego> the things far away dont do anything

L353[18:44:53] <Althego> they are on rails

L354[18:44:58] <TwistenX> Ye

L355[18:45:02] <Althego> extremely easy to render

L356[18:45:10] <TwistenX> That's why you can't push them out of orbit

L357[18:45:18] <TwistenX> without mods

L358[18:46:17] <Althego> i just want to ask them, how is it that ksp taxes my graphics card harder than horizon zero dawn, since they changed the looks of kerbin, while simultaneously not really making it look better

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L360[18:46:43] <Althego> spacex stream music on

L361[18:46:57] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpl_JnG7rcg

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L363[18:47:25] <TwistenX> Kerbin got a visual re-vamp?

L364[18:47:59] <Althego> a year ago or something

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L366[18:48:09] <Althego> this is insane

L367[18:48:16] <raptop> *going*

L368[18:48:21] <raptop> s/g/b/

L369[18:48:38] <Althego> as george carlin said, hw wouldnt know if he was coming or going

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L371[18:49:20] <Althego> can you stop that?

L372[18:49:34] <TwistenX> I literally cannot leave the page without crashing it why

L373[18:49:42] <TwistenX> idk why it's doing this

L374[18:51:02] <Althego> t-10 min

L375[18:51:06] <flayer> damn, that waterfall mod is really nice

L376[18:52:00] <Althego> what does it do?

L377[18:52:12] <TwistenX> adds waterfalls, i'm guessing

L378[18:52:18] <flayer> engine exhaust stuff

L379[18:52:21] <flayer> lights

L380[18:52:36] <flayer> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/196309-111x-waterfall-a-framework-for-continuous-mesh-driven-engine-effects-march-26/

L381[18:52:40] <TwistenX> why is it called waterfall if there is no waterfalls

L382[18:53:34] <Althego> developed woth waterfall model :)

L383[18:54:00] <TwistenX> huh

L384[18:55:37] <TwistenX> Do you guys think I'd be able to make paintings of all the main heavenly bodies from Kerbal Space Program? (Kerbol, the planets, and the moons)

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L386[18:59:20] <Althego> any previous work?

L387[18:59:45] <Althego> we know it is possible, whether you can do it, cant say

L388[19:00:03] <Althego> t-1 min

L389[19:00:22] <Althego> meanwhile this is starting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S486uTXwk7I

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L391[19:00:58] <Althego> 5 s

L392[19:01:08] <Althego> liftoff

L393[19:02:00] <TwistenX> I'm not the best at painting, but I figured Jool would be the easiest

L394[19:02:11] <TwistenX> Especially with pastel paints

L395[19:02:31] <Althego> anytyhing is easy if it is far enough :)

L396[19:02:40] <Althego> .

L397[19:02:50] <Althego> death star, just very far away :)

L398[19:03:26] <TwistenX> Well, Jool is thousands of Megameters from Kerbin, so it might be easy

L399[19:08:45] <Althego> landing soon

L400[19:09:14] <Althego> bit smoke?

L401[19:09:34] <Althego> there is the ship

L402[19:09:53] <Althego> landed

L403[19:10:00] <Althego> cool when you can see the ship from the rocket

L404[19:10:10] <Althego> ship lost video before the landing

L405[19:10:34] <Althego> second stage is in orbit. now there will be a second burn and a deploy, takes too long i will be asleep by then

L406[19:10:59] <Mat2ch> right in the center.

L407[19:12:02] <Althego> slightly left of center - love the way you move (with the dancing putin)

L408[19:14:24] <Althego> i didnt think the dragonfly would be that big

L409[19:14:29] <Althego> about the size of curiosity

L410[19:15:39] <TwistenX> a

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L415[19:18:14] <raptop> あ

L416[19:18:21] <TwistenX> e but japanses

L417[19:18:48] <Althego> !kana a

L418[19:18:49] <Kerbot> Althego => あ | ア

L419[19:19:49] <raptop> no, no, "e" would be え or エ

L420[19:20:03] <TwistenX> i don't speak italian

L421[19:20:03] <Althego> !kana aioeu

L422[19:20:03] <Kerbot> Althego => あいおえう | アイオエウ

L423[19:22:58] <TwistenX> Hey guys, go vote for what I should paint by going to www.menti.com and use the code 9679 5379

L424[19:24:12] <raptop> ...

L425[19:24:29] <TwistenX> what

L426[19:24:36] <raptop> Consider: Jool and a moon or three

L427[19:24:45] <raptop> (view from another moon presumably)

L428[19:24:54] <TwistenX> I still need it to be voted

L429[19:26:15] <raptop> compare with that Chesley Bonestell painting of Saturn as seen from Titan (1944)

L430[19:26:23] <TwistenX> Okay

L431[19:27:53] <TwistenX> OH I CANNOT PAINT THAT NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRIED

L432[19:28:59] <TwistenX> I was thinking something like this; https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSlInOTlYWqgOlLCTCJDpLPi2cCz7Dxj8tpZmKaYikBr77EhrNkr2fzEiPnAJ4V02N4yOKoYQIY_1aMfhgB:https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article20092155.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_NASA-scientist-captures-amazing-picture-of-solar-eclipse-on-Jupiter.jpg&usqp=CAU

L433[19:29:15] <TwistenX> Or this; <img src="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSekDiD6JD8KY9gmBe0JgS_2sMKnggkAJojRB5pmM4NL5cx4LrDGJHAalcpvlD3ZB9pK3t0zKA6TatxeDuw:https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SFefBPL3dXM/hqdefault.jpg&usqp=CAU" alt="Triple Solar Eclipses on Jupiter 24 Jan 2015 - YouTube"/>

L434[19:29:23] <raptop> planet

L435[19:29:29] <TwistenX> very

L436[19:33:08] <TwistenX> it's Io

L437[19:33:26] <raptop> forbidden pizza moon

L438[19:33:50] <TwistenX> yes

L439[19:35:19] <TwistenX> The lava is the tomato sauce

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L445[19:51:39] <TwistenX> What was the code to the mentimeter

L446[19:52:09] <TwistenX> Nevermind

L447[19:54:23] <TwistenX> Kerbin with its moons is now ahead of Jool and its moons

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