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L12[02:30:22] <Althego> heh tako still
streaming. progesses way faster than kiara
L13[02:30:31] <Althego> about twice as
fast
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L22[04:22:47] <Ariri> of course
L23[04:23:45] <Ariri> ina is good like
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L34[08:16:14] <Althego> wen hop
L35[08:16:53] <Althego> tuesday
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L37[08:23:46] <eKyNoX> Hellow!
L38[08:32:12] <Althego> he
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L42[09:23:29] <Mat2ch> Althego: exactly.
wen hop
L43[09:24:07] <Mat2ch> no tfr for
today.
L44[09:24:10] <Mat2ch> well, back to
work.
L45[09:25:00] <Althego> it has been
"in the next few days" for weeks now
L46[09:26:09] <Mat2ch> yeah
L47[09:26:16] <Mat2ch> for weeks
already?
L48[09:27:02] <Mat2ch> well, weather
forecast says it's windy today. Probably the reason
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L50[09:34:14] <Althego> what 34 degrees
there tomorrow? still doesnt get up to 20 here
L51[09:34:32] <Althego> otherwise looks to
be ok
L52[09:35:34] <Mat2ch> yeah, better weather
next week here, too.
L53[09:35:39] <Mat2ch> It's always
"next week" this year
L54[09:35:44] <Mat2ch> and I'm totally fine
with it.
L55[09:35:54] <Mat2ch> Better than having
the first heatwave hitting in May.
L56[09:36:29] <Mat2ch> And then having a
second, a third, a fourth, a fifth, almost dying in the sixth and
then finally it's September and all we did through summer was
trying not to die from the heat.
L57[09:36:33] <Mat2ch> I hate climate
change.
L58[09:37:28] <Mat2ch> and we need rain.
Very badly. It's all turning to dust here.
L59[09:39:16] <darsie> Mat2ch: In
Germany?
L60[09:39:46] <Mat2ch> yep
L61[09:40:07] <Althego> the little rain
that comes, you use it up
L62[09:40:12] <Althego> there will be even
less here
L63[09:40:16] <darsie> I'm trying my best
to fight it.
L64[09:40:26] <darsie> kinda
L65[09:40:48] <Althego> basically i run a
computer 16 hours a day
L66[09:40:53] <Althego> that is my power
consumption
L67[09:40:53] <darsie> I don't buy animal
products.
L68[09:41:07] <Althego> i dont even
travel
L69[09:41:29] <darsie> Bought an i7-3770
office PC from HP. It has an 6 or 8 pin mainboard power
connector.
L70[09:42:40] <darsie> going 300 km to our
holiday house in Styria by train.
L71[09:44:04] <darsie> But yeah, I only
turn it off at night.
L72[09:44:51] <darsie> Not sure what to
replace our gas boiler in the bathroom with.
L73[09:47:54] <darsie> Want to buy a VW
ID.4, but dunno if we should get it with our without heat
pump.
L74[09:48:04] <Mat2ch> With.
L75[09:48:14] <Mat2ch> You are in Austria,
you get cold winters, you want the heat pump.
L76[09:48:29] <Mat2ch> .oO( and that advice
really hurt me, because I hate VW. )
L77[09:48:41] <darsie> But tests with an
ID.3 showed it makes no difference. Haven't got any real test data
on the 4.
L78[09:49:46] <darsie> BTW, ID means
intelligent design ...
L79[09:50:20] <FLHerne> What conditions was
it tested in?
L80[09:50:39] <Mat2ch> heat pump will make
a huge difference in winter. Just look at the Model 3 data
L81[09:50:53] <darsie> Driving on a highway
in winter with two similar cars, one wiht and one without heat
pump.
L82[09:50:54] <FLHerne> Heat-pump
efficiency is no better at very low temperatures, and irrelevant
when it's warm, but there's a range where it's useful
L83[09:51:23] <Mat2ch> on the other hand,
the VWs could be so inefficient that they can use that heat for the
cabin :P
L84[09:51:26] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: It's
certainly *possible* for VW to engineer a heat-pump system that
makes no difference, but it would be surprising
L85[09:52:01] <Mat2ch> It's VW after
all.
L86[09:52:29] <Mat2ch> The designed the
stabilizer to go through the gearbox for an Audi
L87[09:52:40] <Mat2ch> so you have to pull
the whole engine if you want to replace the stabilizer.
L88[09:52:47] <Mat2ch> *They designed
L90[09:53:32] <Mat2ch> I hate VW from the
depth of my heart. And that's very deep. They are expensive to buy,
expensive to repair and expensive to drive.
L91[09:54:17] <darsie> It's the most
economic ecar in that class.
L92[09:54:26] <Mat2ch> There should be a
video from Bjørn somewhere, too.
L93[09:54:44] <darsie> What's the
stabilizer?
L94[09:55:32] <darsie> We have charging
stations in Vienna with 6.4 c/kWh at night.
L95[09:55:48] <darsie> 11 kW
L96[09:56:05] <darsie> That's cheaper than
our own electricity.
L97[09:56:22] <darsie> (renewable)
L99[09:58:11] <Mat2ch> Most efficient
vehicle is Model 3 SR+
L100[09:58:21] <Mat2ch> Then comes the
Hyundai Kona
L101[09:58:33] <Mat2ch> and yes, I trust
Bjørn with his tests.
L103[09:59:23] <Mat2ch> ...
L104[09:59:46] <Mat2ch> Althego: out! We
are talking about electric cars (and my hatred against VW ;)
L105[10:00:02] <Althego> i couldnt follow
it just write only
L106[10:00:04] <Mat2ch> also I wanted to
write an invoice and stuff.
L107[10:00:19] <Mat2ch> write only?
L108[10:00:21] <Mat2ch> what you
mean?
L109[10:05:11] <Althego> i was on the
phone
L110[10:05:20] <Althego> so i could paste
but couldnt read
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L112[10:06:39] <darsie> Mat2ch: We want to
go 300 km from Vienna (170 m) to Ramsau (1150 m) without charging
and or with my telescope (31 cm dia, 118 cm long), a paraglider,
4-5 ppl ...
L113[10:06:52] <darsie> In winter.
L114[10:08:11] <Althego> doesnt seem to be
impossible
L115[10:08:39] <darsie> Sure. Not sure if
the Model 3 SR+ is the car for that, though.
L116[10:09:11] <darsie> Kona doesn't have
the range, IIRC.
L117[10:09:19] <Althego> you could take a
small diesel generator with you too :)
L118[10:09:23] <darsie> hehe
L119[10:09:53] <darsie> Diesel generators
are not small. A petrol generator maybe.
L120[10:10:16] <darsie> Or my solar panel
:)
L121[10:10:32] <darsie> I want it on the
roof ...
L122[10:15:17] <Mat2ch> darsie: if you
don't want to creep with 90 km/h with the ID4 you will have to
recharge it, too.
L123[10:16:00] <Mat2ch> solar panels
aren't that great on the roof. If you only move your car once in a
week for max 40 km, yeah, maybe. But otherwise, nah.
L124[10:16:28] <darsie> Well, the idea is
to go 200 km highway at 100 km/h and 100 km overland road at 80
km/h.
L125[10:16:34] <Mat2ch> darsie: have a
look at the spreadsheet I pasted. Bjørn did some extensive
tests
L126[10:17:30] <Althego> you could take a
stick with you and use it to angle the solar panels :)
L127[10:17:40] <darsie> I mean on the roof
of the house in which I rent a flat.
L128[10:18:17] <Mat2ch> ID4 goes around
450 km at 90 km/h. On the way to Ramsau you will need a 15 min
charging stop
L129[10:18:27] <Mat2ch> on the way back
maybe not if you can charge it up to 100 %.
L130[10:18:44] <Mat2ch> And you should
never charge to 100 % if not really necessary.
L131[10:18:57] <Mat2ch> so just plan in a
short stop and you are going to be fine.
L132[10:19:24] <darsie> What's worse, 100%
charge before leaving or a quick charge stop?
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L135[10:21:43] <Mat2ch> A Better
Routeplanner suggests an 8 min charging stop.
L136[10:21:56] <darsie> mhm
L137[10:22:29] <darsie> Will the battery
be warm enough to quick charge?
L138[10:22:54] <Mat2ch> after 90 minutes
of driving: Yes.
L139[10:23:27] <darsie> In a test it
stayed at 14 C when driving 90 km/h.
L140[10:23:35] <darsie> ID.3
L141[10:24:02] <darsie> Going faster
heated it up more, but that causes more drag.
L142[10:24:37] <darsie> Maybe that was
fixed in software, so the heat pump properly heats the
battery.
L143[10:24:41] <darsie> maybe ...
L144[10:25:13] <Mat2ch> If you start at
100 % you can go with one charge
L145[10:25:16] *
darsie needs food ...
L146[10:25:22] <darsie> That's the
idea.
L147[10:25:46] <Mat2ch> well, where the
heck can I tell a better route planner to use proper metric
format?
L148[10:25:58] <darsie> I noticed miles,
too.
L149[10:25:58] <Althego> hehe
L150[10:26:01] <Althego> was it in
miles?
L151[10:26:54] <Mat2ch> oh, wow, you have
to activate "detailed" things and then you can select it.
Worst way to hide important options
L152[10:27:18] <Althego> these are not
important options. should be in km. no miles needed. ever. for
anything
L153[10:27:24] <darsie> Where?
L154[10:27:26] <Mat2ch> darsie: how heavy
do you think the other people and the luggage will be?
L155[10:27:40] <Mat2ch> darsie: go to
settings
L156[10:27:48] <Mat2ch> then there's a
small slider "Detailed"
L157[10:28:33] <darsie> yeah, I found
that.
L158[10:28:36] <darsie> but hten
L159[10:30:07] <darsie> Can't find
it.
L160[10:30:56] <Mat2ch> I just did a quick
comparison of the ID4 and the 2020 Kona. With the 2020 Kona you
need one charging stop for 7 minutes, but since you can driver
faster you only lose on minute...
L161[10:31:08] <Mat2ch> darsie: screenshot
plz :D
L162[10:31:18] <darsie> of what?
L163[10:32:18] <Mat2ch> you said you can't
find it. Show us what you see and maybe we can point you in the
right direction.
L164[10:33:01] <Mat2ch> if you only go 100
km/h with the Hyundai it will make the drive also without
recharging and 13 % left.
L166[10:35:41] *
darsie gets breakfast muesli ...
L167[10:42:08] <darsie> .
L168[10:42:33] <Mat2ch> darsie: you need
to scroll down to get to the Unit stuff
L169[10:43:12] <darsie> To where?
L170[10:43:30] <darsie> I looked
everywhere but the app settingns.
L171[10:43:51] <darsie> ahh, got it.
L172[10:44:27] <darsie> I thought app
means android/iphone app.
L173[10:45:34] <darsie> Can't set
temperature.
L174[10:45:53] <darsie> Ohh, I can.
L175[10:46:08] <Mat2ch> have fun playing
around. :)
L176[10:46:46] <darsie> 9 min charge at
-10 °C.
L177[10:47:03] <Mat2ch> now change with
and without heat pump
L178[10:49:01] <darsie> 13 min without
heat pump.
L179[10:49:28] <darsie> But how real is
this model? What's their data source?
L180[10:49:35] <Mat2ch> and the interior
will heat up quicker with the heat pump
L181[10:50:14] <Mat2ch> you have to ask
them. I guess they do tests on their own, but aren't sure yet,
hence the lable "Alpha" at the vehicle selector
L182[10:50:24] <darsie> I even opted for
the 'Life' model to get heated seat and steering wheel.
L183[10:50:34] <Mat2ch> they are working
with Teslabjørn afaik
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L185[10:57:31] <darsie> Mat2ch: With heat
pump, -10 C, 100 SOC departure, max 100 km/h I need a 9 min charge.
Without heat pump 8 min charge. Unless I messed up.
L186[11:02:36] <Mat2ch> that doesn't make
sense.
L187[11:02:50] <darsie> Hmm, no ... with
heat pump: 8 min. Without: 8 min.
L188[11:03:08] <darsie> I agree.
L189[11:03:30] <darsie> So I don't get a
heat pump.
L190[11:04:11] <Mat2ch> ah, yes, they are
using the same reference consumption.
L191[11:04:20] <Mat2ch> But there has to
be differences.
L192[11:04:47] <darsie> no ...
<FLHerne> Mat2ch: It's certainly *possible* for VW to
engineer a heat-pump system that makes no difference, but it would
be surprising
L193[11:05:13] <Mat2ch> :D
L194[11:05:18] <darsie> :)
L195[11:05:48] <darsie> Maybe the 'heat
pump' is just a speaker that makes some noise.
L196[11:06:04] <darsie> VW has cheated
before.
L197[11:06:46] <Mat2ch> I know. But since
the data from a better route planner is still marked as
"alpha" I wouldn't count too much on it.
L198[11:07:07] <darsie> yeah :). I was jk
:).
L199[11:07:54] <darsie> And maybe it's
alpha because VW hasn't published real data about the heat
pump.
L200[11:07:59] <Mat2ch> well, I wouldn't
be suprised if they did cut corners somewhere and the cars will
fall apart in 3-5 years and require expensive repairs...
L201[11:08:03] <Mat2ch> after all it's
VW...
L202[11:08:39] <darsie> At least the
software seemed to have been rushed initially.
L203[11:09:20] <Mat2ch> that's because
nobody asks the people who KNOW how to develop software.
L204[11:09:25] <darsie> What's the
stabilizer?
L205[11:09:39] <Althego> what, anybody
knows how to?
L206[11:09:40] <Mat2ch> Everyone who made
a "hello world" tutorial thinks they are the best
developers in the world.
L207[11:10:09] <Mat2ch> And if somebody
tells them to do things the right way and that it will take time,
the managers will ask someone else
L208[11:10:10] <darsie> I made a hello
world KSP tutorial ;)
L209[11:10:30] <Althego> solution: fire
the managers
L211[11:11:18] <Althego> this looks fully
passive
L212[11:11:25] <Mat2ch> Althego: that's
what we would do. But since they are the managers they will
increase just their wage.
L213[11:11:38] <Mat2ch> Just a piece of
metal. But needs replacement sometimes
L214[11:12:37] <Althego> while i was
working in factory, i always thought quality people are useless.
because they never noticed actual defects, but stopped production
for no reason. so without them production would be faster and with
the same amount of defects
L215[11:13:21] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L216[11:13:30] <Mat2ch> lunchtime!
L217[11:13:50] <Althego> lele time too
:)
L218[11:19:00] <Althego> anyway that part
is simple yet useful
L219[11:19:39] <Althego> i would have
created a computerized feedback something that keeps the vehicle
upright, too complicated. they solved it with a metal piece
L220[11:21:33] <darsie> Well, the id4 is
RWD and has only one small, simple gear, so I guess this problem
doesn't exist here.
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L222[11:37:12] <Althego> (local) leet
time
L223[11:38:06] <darsie> 1337
L224[11:38:09] <darsie> dang
L225[11:38:18] <darsie> I prepared it
...
L226[11:38:25] <darsie> But then got
carried away chatting.
L227[11:38:40] <Althego> hehe
L228[11:54:55] <Mat2ch> darsie: probably
not. :D
L229[11:55:09] <Mat2ch> But the Audi shows
what they are capable off. ;)
L230[11:55:17] <darsie> mhm
L231[12:07:41] <umaxtu> speaking of EVs, I
test drove a Chevy Bolt this weekend.
L232[12:09:53] <Izaya> gotta try one of
those electric bikes some time
L233[12:10:31] <Izaya> all torque, all the
time sounds kinda fun, even without gears to manage and the
wonderful scream of approaching the end of the rev range
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L235[12:26:29] <Mat2ch> umaxtu: how was
it?
L236[12:31:58] <umaxtu> I liked it.
L237[12:32:48] <umaxtu> rode nice, seemed
well built, etc.
L238[12:39:01] <Mat2ch> EVs are really
nice to drive. Almost all of them
L239[12:39:27] <Mat2ch> few noises, few
vibrations, much power
L240[12:40:41] <umaxtu> apparently the
base model 3 is in the same price-range so I guess I should try
that too. not that I'm actually buying anything at the moment
L241[12:59:32] <Mat2ch> me neither
L242[13:00:03] <Mat2ch> I have a Model 3
reserved for four years now... well, some day, maybe.
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L244[13:03:56] <Althego> hehe
L245[13:04:03] <Althego> the longer you
wait the better it will be
L246[13:07:19] <Althego> somehow tesla
does what no other automaker, constantly improving. sadly the
berlin gigafactory is not going to produce model 3. but what they
are going to produce, is going to have front and back
gigacasting
L247[13:07:48] <Althego> coco continues on
the yagoo pixel art
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L249[13:26:44] <Mat2ch> well, a Model Y
would be nicer anyways, because of the trunk space...
L250[14:01:59] <Althego> reaper is
coming
L251[14:05:59] <Althego> guh
L252[14:07:19] <Althego> hehe, 65k people
watching, everybody wants to see the new clothes
L253[14:08:42] <darsie> KSP?
L254[14:08:59] <Althego> somebody somwhere
probably livestreaming that too
L255[14:09:09] <darsie> what?
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L257[14:18:49] <Althego> pay no attention
to the man behind the curtain
L258[14:19:07] <Althego> (just the usual
hololive spam, i try to keep it to a minimum)
L259[14:36:27] <darsie> You didn't post a
link or even mentioned what ppl are watching.
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L263[14:44:20] <Althego> yes, that. i
intentionally dont post links. guh pretty much settled the channel
for those who knowledgeable
L264[14:44:36] <Mat2ch> whenever I see
hololive I'm wondering if I did something wrong in life.
L265[14:46:58] <UmbralRaptop> Mat2ch: How
so
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L272[15:55:02] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop:
because they are making money of this. And I'm sitting here
wondering if I will have enough money when I'm old or if I ever can
retire at all.
L273[15:58:19] <Mat2ch> F9 launch
tomorrow. They are probably not going to have two events in one
day. So hop on Wednesday maybe?
L274[15:58:41] <Mat2ch> And I wish they
would post times in UTC, too
L275[16:01:19] <Althego> different teams
working on them, so totally possible
L276[16:01:40] <Althego> probably yagoo is
making the most money off it
L277[16:03:13] *
UmbralRaptop half expects that Google is making the
most
L278[16:10:03] <Mat2ch> they do.
L279[16:12:47] <Althego> i think google
takes 1/3 of the superchats
L280[16:13:06] <Althego> then i suspect
the company takes another 1/3
L281[16:13:19] <Althego> so at best 1/3 is
remaining for the streamer
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L283[16:33:12] <packbart> but there can be
a lot of superchat contributions per stream
L284[16:33:26] <packbart> Twitch takes
half of the subscription payments
L285[16:34:16] <umaxtu> wow
L286[16:34:25] <Althego> that is kind of
insane
L287[16:37:56] <raptop> Also not sure how
the splits are with merchandise
L288[16:39:30] <Althego> that reminds
me
L289[16:39:40] <Althego> will there be any
update for ksp?
L290[16:39:45] <Althego> dlc or
otherwise?
L291[16:39:53] <Althego> there is no
word
L292[16:42:42] <Althego> i think the
planet revamp is finished too
L293[16:42:53] <Althego> lots of features
were added
L294[16:43:29] *
raptop shrugs
L295[16:43:42] <Althego> shrubbery
L296[16:45:02] <umaxtu> go play Disco
Elysium. I hear its amazing
L297[16:45:31] <raptop> At some point
probably
L298[16:45:38] <raptop> so many
games...
L299[16:46:03] <umaxtu> Yeah, I'm trying
to motivate myself to finish Divinity Original Sin before I start
another game
L300[16:47:22] <packbart> and every game
that's been around for a while has its share of disgruntled
players
L301[16:47:38] <raptop> let's see, the
last game that counts as finished for me (mostly) would be mobius
front 83
L302[16:47:49] <packbart> I read lots of
"FDev don't care about players and they never fix
bugs!11" in the past weeks ;)
L303[16:49:20] <raptop> It's fun how there
are games where that is a problem, and there are games where people
just say that despite lots of ongoing bugfixes and
development
L304[16:49:28] <umaxtu> I'm almost done
with FFVII remake on the ps4. probably just in time for the Mass
Effect Lengendary edition to come out. and of course I keep getting
side tracked with Stardew Valley
L305[16:49:30] <raptop> And by fun I mean
WTFy
L306[16:50:04] <umaxtu> packbart, you
talking 'bout Frontier?
L307[16:50:38] <packbart> no, Elite
Dangerous developed by Frontier Developments
L308[16:50:46] <umaxtu> thats who I
meant
L309[16:50:47] <Althego> at least it is a
playable game
L310[16:50:48] <raptop> Hm, Unconnected
Marketeers is out
L311[16:50:50] <packbart> ah, I see
L312[16:50:58] <Althego> i still regard
star citizen as a scam
L313[16:51:27] <umaxtu> eh, they provide a
lot of status info
L314[16:51:55] <packbart> and now that
they are adding a first-person shooter, people complain more about
unfixed old bugs. business as usual
L315[16:52:13] <umaxtu> can't be as bad at
fixing bugs as Bethesda
L316[16:52:23] <raptop> Heh
L317[16:52:48] <Izaya> > be
bethesda
L318[16:52:51] <Althego> hehe
L319[16:52:54] <Izaya> > have 10 years
to fix your game
L320[16:52:58] <Izaya> > introduce new
bugs
L321[16:52:59] <raptop> I feel like for
sufficiently old Bethesda games the consensus is "don't play
the actual game, but this rebuild of the engine with more features
and fewer bugs"
L322[16:53:01] <umaxtu> hopefully
Microsoft will make them be better about that
L323[16:53:17] *
raptop is specifically talking about Daggerfall and
Morrowind
L324[16:53:22] <Izaya> openmw is looking
neat these days
L325[16:53:28] <umaxtu> raptop, yeah, TTW
is far more stable for me then actually playing Fallout 3
L326[16:53:54] <raptop> heh
L327[16:55:57] <umaxtu> one of these days,
I need to go back and playthrough all of the fallout games. now
would be a great time since I can't get an upgrade for my GPU
L328[16:56:36] <raptop> Play the 2D
fallouts!
L329[16:57:17] <umaxtu> yeah
L330[16:59:42] <umaxtu> I'm trying to
limit myself to having 1 game in progress in each genre at a
time
L331[17:00:40] <Althego> i am too
exhausted because of some reason. havent played anything for a
while. all i do in the last few days is play that cell clustering
science game in eve
L332[17:01:12] <umaxtu> I didn't know you
were a spreadsheet captain
L333[17:06:14] <raptop> I mean, Kerbal
Spreadsheet Program is also a thing
L334[17:06:29] <umaxtu> not like EVE
L335[17:07:19] <Althego> i dust off e:d
from time to time too
L336[17:07:35] <Althego> but havent
actually played eve for a long time
L338[17:10:05] <flayer> oh that looks like
an interesting game Izaya
L339[17:10:26] <Izaya> what I bought: ARK:
Survival Evolved
L340[17:10:36] <Izaya> what I expected:
[jurassic park]
L341[17:10:38] <umaxtu> does it still run
terribly?
L342[17:10:45] <Izaya> what I got:
LibreOffice Calc
L343[17:10:49] <Althego> hehe
L344[17:11:00] <Althego> how is space
engineers doing?
L345[17:11:00] <Izaya> it's improved since
2015 but I can't really say nowadays
L346[17:11:06] *
flayer sighs
L347[17:11:21] <flayer> i am reminded of
the time that i first got into EVE Online
L348[17:11:21] <Althego> oh now what have
i done. "space engineers is not doing..." :)
L349[17:11:27] <flayer> that was a really
epic game
L350[17:11:39] <packbart> I have a rule
for games: I don't do spreadsheets
L351[17:11:41] <Izaya> I don't think it's
fair to compare performance on a 750Ti on Windows vs the same game
on WINE on an RX580 on Linux
L352[17:11:55] <packbart> I use external
sites like eddb.io, though
L353[17:12:21] <Izaya> but for what it's
worth, it still maxes my GPU well below max settings, even with a
significant overclock and a high-end GPU
L354[17:12:24] <Althego> yes eddb is
great
L355[17:12:46] <Izaya> but it manages 30
FPS stably now so that's... an improvement?
L356[17:13:18] <umaxtu> eddb is still a
thing? awesome
L357[17:15:15] <Althego> always looks like
a german icao code to me :)
L358[17:15:57] <umaxtu> how many times
have you done the run to the other end of the galaxy? I forget what
the system was named
L359[17:17:13] <umaxtu> Colonia?
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L363[18:28:28] *
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L364[18:28:36] <raptop> ...are they
showing white LEDs in the 1980s?
L365[18:29:03] <Althego> jrjr
L366[18:29:05] <Althego> hehe
L367[18:29:29] <darsie> I remember when I
got my first blue LED.
L368[18:29:39] <Althego> and we cant get
rid of them eveer since
L369[18:29:40] <darsie> Thought it was
cool :).
L370[18:30:00] <Althego> they are in
everything and blind you with bright light
L371[18:30:10] <Althego> also apparently
cause sleeping problems
L372[18:30:24] <darsie> You can turn most
of them off.
L373[18:31:00] <darsie> But yeah, I have a
cheap amp from aliexpress with a blue power LED. I covered it with
black rubber. Still leaks some light.
L374[18:31:08] <Althego> i either cover
them or paint them over
L375[18:31:30] <Althego> and that finally
turns them back to status lights
L376[18:32:31] <kubi> hehe
L377[18:32:51] <kubi> the very first LEDs
were blue-ish
L378[18:33:15] <kubi> not for mass
production, but lab stuff
L379[18:34:30] <kubi> a nice black tape
hides the light
L380[18:34:51] <Althego> i use black
marker or black tape
L381[18:34:55] <kubi> alternatively, you
can use a drop of black nail paint from your gf
L382[18:35:17] <kubi> emos are good for
something :)
L383[18:36:29] <Althego> are there still
emos?
L384[18:36:48] <kubi> well
L385[18:37:00] <kubi> nail paint does not
rot for a long time :)
L386[18:37:08] <raptop> Black is a nice
color because it goes with everything
L387[18:37:27] <kubi> wellnot too good
with brown
L388[18:39:00] <darsie> I have black
nailpolish.
L389[18:45:36] <Althego> hok i am not sure
if spacex can stream two launches at the same time. what about
nsf?
L390[18:45:44] <Althego> lol what is
hok
L391[18:46:04] <raptop> Hearts of
Potassium, a very confusing Paradox game
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L407[22:56:36] <Guest93778> kerbal space
program is awesome
L408[22:56:44] <darsie> yeah :)
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L410[22:57:00] <darsie> How long do you
play it?
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L412[22:57:17] <Guest93778> sense jan this
year
L413[22:57:33] <darsie> Completed the tech
tree, yet?
L414[22:57:37] <Guest93778> ye
L415[22:57:50] <Guest93778> done like 8-10
duna missions
L416[22:57:57] <Guest93778> none crewed
tho
L417[22:58:07] <darsie> Duna is easy
:).
L418[22:58:20] <raptop> Ah, stay-at-home
kerbals
L419[22:58:56] <Guest93778> what if
asteroids had soi
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L422[23:00:20] <darsie> ask xkcd ;)
L423[23:00:21] <Guest93778> i want hyper
edit but it breaks my game xd
L424[23:01:14] <darsie> They kinda do.
They have undefined shape, mass and ore content till you get
<2.2 km.
L425[23:01:31] <darsie> So you can save
just outside that and approach till you get what you want :).
L426[23:01:55] <darsie> Sometimes you find
pretty magic ones :).
L427[23:02:05] <raptop> Something
something gilly something dres (for "asteroids" with
SOIs)
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L439[23:42:18] <_> hi im back
L440[23:43:21] <_> is ksp 1.12 ever gonna
exist?
L441[23:46:06] <raptop> probably, but we
don't know the exact date
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