L17[03:44:55] <Althego> ah this is vostok 1

L20[03:58:40] <raptop> yeah

L29[06:07:08] <packbart> also STS-1

L30[06:07:26] <packbart> 1981-04-12

L31[06:14:22] <raptop> that, too

L33[06:40:35] <Althego> https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1381336873793060864

L34[06:40:47] <Althego> suborbital launch, but still

L51[11:38:30] <darsie> 1338

L52[12:05:29] <Althego> kikkerikii

L54[12:59:40] <Althego> so proposed flight of ingenuity is on the 14th

L55[13:04:04] <sandbox> interesting https://www.flightradar24.com/BIO05/275f77c9

L56[13:04:28] <Althego> hehe

L57[13:04:33] <Althego> i would understand that over land

L58[13:04:42] <Althego> but what are they doing over the water?

L64[13:40:51] <Mat2ch> https://onthewight.com/a-plane-has-been-scanning-the-isle-of-wight-every-day-for-the-last-week/?__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=2ee409bd6a8e98e24d976c13587dba725d6deb05-1618234798-0-ARUNOVP31_-8Vbsm6PmQDIS4NmHdJW7PX2bQB8WPd0X4mhQYfR5858BgG7xU25IgODn_qQJHsRHaxVkfqigPaqpMePZ-qn2Pqnt1OPr_zO73z8CJ9WPiuVTQTSJawwkMTZG7TJzlj9gW_wFDg2zCkC9TDQeGpfyKAJs05-o0lJBftZ-rOgH98dr3_eb_REN4Gd-hP1WpeCM6pox_21

L65[13:40:53] <Mat2ch> v-PTM2unjxtU74j0LwMJv8TZ-z7roiu6DAIh7U6CoG_EuvW1oYX59alYwmLC4JtcohVAay18zUYf-ushaCc9FdPqRmS8NkT7mndGGQqqXOizwxLr8qtYNLBSK9FYQV1O_PbQLRj1fjL9P5zemb_TPGgh0qheRRepy7Y1cyLzEAzOIIM-XlYeIG7uEJZfU3Ps8GkPWEfgIg154kwAMUJ12K3h49rNvcHr691oN1TVA4UDANprwYubp_ZFAiezKEM1XBSDomFTJ5sJlg70nhtZSrTo4lu6ewWaAm_cPToliZeW1SsDoMtmgUXBFumbDDNcpFiIGiCuu-iKnyWfx_8atMzRu9SzDTdD6A0EtDvMtZggufwVtLcNNHhwbIdoya

L66[13:40:55] <Mat2ch> pMitLpeC3uK1NcrFET9jAKO6pt5UaTSc_N6ZcZMLD5OxojjT5OVkXy9oQZbWuNX4udZnQchfIfrdXFp3e5yQg5QTOqaKUIPzPIBQze5i94QaYwUr3AvO9_jqi-a7Rh9QwbO181VLkxYjpMz0liEPvdIfkr4JFwSgzvtTr_vdRrPH6CbB3A

L67[13:40:57] <Mat2ch> Oh, wow

L68[13:40:59] <Mat2ch> sorry

L69[13:41:03] <Mat2ch> How can you create links so broken?

L70[13:41:22] <Mat2ch> https://onthewight.com/a-plane-has-been-scanning-the-isle-of-wight-every-day-for-the-last-week/

L71[13:41:32] <umaxtu> takes effort

L72[13:41:36] <Mat2ch> http://bioflight.dk/about-bio-flight/

L73[13:41:40] <Mat2ch> the owner

L74[13:42:15] <Mat2ch> umaxtu: I'm not sure if this isn't vicious

L75[13:43:59] <Mat2ch> is it possible that there are sand banks? And they cartographed them there, maybe to build a wind park?

L76[13:46:58] <Althego> sand banks. to hold sand dollars :)

L77[13:47:04] <umaxtu> I would think that they'd get better readings from a boat

L78[13:50:24] <Mat2ch> umaxtu: how, there might be sand beneath you :D

L79[13:54:12] <sandbox> there's another plane from Prestwick flying near Glasgow

L80[13:54:46] <sandbox> similar pattern

L85[14:34:22] <Mat2ch> Russians, I tell ya

L86[14:35:52] <Althego> russian bots?

L87[14:39:52] <FLHerne> Looks like they're primarily scanning over land, so probably not offshore wind...

L88[14:39:52] <Mat2ch> Flying planes. Yes.

L89[14:40:04] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: that side would be good for onshore wind... :D

L90[14:40:53] <FLHerne> "Looks like military grade by the rivets on the tail, made to look like a standard vulcanair. Could be Russian I suppose, but considering Danish involvement it’s either subterfuge, but most likely scouting out of our bacon and butter industry. Danish govt also has a 90% stake in our onshore renewables, so could be a joint venture. Wouldn’t be surprised if it were Google and Bing in a joint enterprise. Mapping our island with military precision would be

L91[14:40:54] <FLHerne> very valuable to the right country such as China. Keep watching those skies!"

L92[14:41:01] <FLHerne> ^ from the article comments

L93[14:42:34] <Mat2ch> lol

L94[14:42:58] <umaxtu> Fedor must be involved

L95[14:46:06] <Althego> hah perfect. reaper with zombie tomorrow... but in apex, sadly

L106[17:30:07] <TwistenX> I have arisen from the dead

L107[17:30:27] <flayer> AHHH ITS A ZOMBIE!

L108[17:30:46] <TwistenX> This is the perfect place to be

L109[17:31:00] <TwistenX> Because everybody here is affiliated with rocketry

L110[17:31:20] <TwistenX> So there's so many brains

L111[17:31:27] <Althego> not as cute as the other zombie i know of

L112[17:31:36] <TwistenX> ?

L113[17:31:56] <TwistenX> Undead raptop?

L114[17:33:31] <TwistenX> Anyways, yeah I'm back into KSP. I got distracted by playing a bunch of Roblox, Minecraft, GTA V, Friday Night Funkin, and coding things.

L116[17:40:17] <Althego> yet

L118[17:40:34] <Althego> also not addicted?

L119[17:40:51] <raptop> dunno what counts as addicted wrt vtubers

L120[17:42:39] <TwistenX> Watching a video pretty much as soon as it is uploaded, maybe?

L121[17:43:37] <raptop> Probably catching the streams at weird times

L122[17:44:01] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lERuoAow5c

L124[18:10:23] <Mat2ch> oh, pressure test underway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCbgoqMcirI

L125[18:10:53] <Althego> feel the rpessure

L126[18:11:11] <Althego> i think at this point they can build the tanks correctly at least

L128[18:23:43] <umaxtu> maybe, maybe not

L129[18:24:01] <Althego> tests are important

L130[18:24:12] <Althego> what i mean i dont expect this to fail

L131[18:26:43] <FLHerne> SN15 does have the new thrust bulkhead design

L132[18:32:09] <Althego> i am worried the whole flip thing is not going to work out even with the header tanks

L133[18:34:24] <umaxtu> same

L134[18:34:54] <Althego> first it looked doable. but all of the prototypes failed

L135[18:45:36] <flayer> i'm so tired

L136[18:46:01] <Mat2ch> the flip will be done with the RCS soon

L137[18:46:16] <Mat2ch> doing it with the raptors is just because they are not ready yet

L138[18:46:28] <Mat2ch> aaaand the flip worked, only the raptors themselfs had problems...

L139[18:46:54] <Mat2ch> they are trying to put lots and lots of new things into Spaceship and that's really a challenge

L140[18:47:15] <umaxtu> but is the flip causing the raptor problems?

L141[18:47:20] <Mat2ch> like pressuring the tanks with exhaust gases

L142[18:47:35] <umaxtu> clearly spacex has to crease a rotating raptor test stand

L143[18:48:30] <Althego> hehe

L144[18:48:32] <Mat2ch> let me think. I think Sn8 had bubbles in the fuel lines. So maybe yes, but maybe just not enough pressure

L145[18:48:51] <Althego> but this is what i meant

L146[18:48:53] <Mat2ch> SN9 had problems with the raptors not fireing correctly when doing the flip

L147[18:48:59] <Althego> previously the raptors were ok

L148[18:49:04] <Althego> yet the landing failed

L149[18:49:06] <Mat2ch> SN10 had a problem with the raptors

L150[18:50:02] <Mat2ch> For SN11 they had a Methane leak which burnt some cables for the avionics system and then the second raptor had a hard start and we don't know if it went through the thrust puck or if the fts got triggered.

L151[18:50:21] <Althego> this last one was the only actual engine related thing

L152[18:56:26] <umaxtu> raptors not firing correctly sounds engine related

L153[18:59:04] <Althego> except when it is pressurization related

L154[19:06:47] <Mat2ch> jep

L155[19:07:04] <Mat2ch> apparently they are killing of old designs of the raptor engines there...

L156[19:09:10] <umaxtu> how different are the raptors on SN15?

L157[19:10:52] <Mat2ch> we don't know yet.

L158[19:13:43] <FLHerne> Fuel/oxidizer connections are moved, and some of the external plumbing is tidier

L159[19:14:22] <FLHerne> internal changes, who knows?

L160[19:15:10] <Althego> at this point those are probably just tweaks for slight gains, lower mass or easier production

L161[19:17:27] <FLHerne> Less blowing up would be nice

L162[19:22:35] <Althego> so ok to blow up but make it smaller? :)

L163[19:27:40] <Mat2ch> no, constant controlled blowing them up helps here!

L164[19:28:01] <Althego> that would be that detonation engine thing

L165[19:28:06] <Althego> that scott talked about

L166[19:28:33] <Mat2ch> well, in a way it is constantly blowing up, just releasing the gases in a controlled way. ;)