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L15[02:33:01] <raptop> !mission
L16[02:33:14] <raptop> Ah, the bot is kill
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L23[05:02:34] <bees> raptop: You find an alien SHIFT and install it as your throttle controller. You travel back in time, only to discover that the universe no longer exists in that timeframe.
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L27[07:02:35] <Althego> lol coco, meme review with best girl yagoo (actually a soundboard)
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L32[08:27:58] <Althego> ooh bgm, zombie is coming
L33[08:28:23] <darsie> what?
L34[08:28:38] <Mat2ch> darsie: Althego is fanboiing again. ;)
L35[08:28:53] <darsie> of?
L36[08:29:01] <Althego> pay no mind for the ramblings of an old man
L37[08:29:07] <Althego> zombanwa
L38[08:30:03] <Althego> i meant ollie is streaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohRZ_fmGP7E
L39[08:30:14] <Althego> sound level warning
L40[08:37:58] <XXCoder> wtf is that channel about
L41[08:39:32] <Althego> just as any vtuber channel. plays games, sometimes sings, reads superchats, goofs off, etc
L42[08:39:42] <XXCoder> ah
L43[08:40:04] <XXCoder> i couldnt fugure what it was about lol just see some anime chattering away
L44[08:40:37] <XXCoder> i cant lipread fake people lol
L45[08:40:48] <XXCoder> not that my lipreading skills is any good
L46[08:40:57] <Althego> ah sorry
L47[08:41:01] <XXCoder> np
L48[08:41:08] <Althego> unfortunately trackin gis quite slow
L49[08:43:17] <Althego> also doesnt help she speaks 3 languages
L50[08:43:37] <XXCoder> lol ok
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L57[10:56:02] <flayer> i'm going to build a jool station on the same plane as laythe/vall/tylo, but with the ap/pe between pol and bop
L58[11:06:29] * UmbralRaptop forgets what the SOI options look like
L59[11:06:58] * UmbralRaptop assumes that there's a reasonable orbit
L60[11:15:54] <darsie> Easiest to achive circularish orbit is probably the largest one, after orbital insertion at Jool Pe.
L61[11:37:34] <Althego> (local) leet time
L62[11:37:57] <darsie> .
L63[11:40:39] <UmbralRaptop> Also, obligatory remark on the superiority of retrobop
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L68[13:15:20] <Althego> ready to fly? https://twitter.com/NASAJPL/status/1378513754241961985
L69[13:17:50] <darsie> Copenhagen Suborbitals just had an engine test live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ZjTpxpI1I
L70[13:17:58] <Althego> ah
L71[13:18:11] <darsie> more tests to go
L72[13:18:49] <Althego> there were videos about the test rig
L73[13:18:58] <Althego> i didnt expect them to be able to test it now
L74[13:19:16] <Althego> ok they were talking about testing the different parts they got from different people
L75[13:19:47] <Althego> what is the name of the things which mix fuel and oxidizer
L76[13:23:37] <Althego> the injectors
L77[13:26:01] <umaxtu> I wonder if anyone has tried to make a carbureted rocket engine
L78[13:27:07] <Althego> hehe
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L80[13:27:10] <Althego> probably not
L81[13:28:06] <umaxtu> yeah, rocket engines are tricky enough without involving dark magic
L82[13:39:30] <Althego> surprisingly small engine
L83[13:49:01] <Althego> it doesnt seem to have a nozzle
L84[13:49:05] <Althego> but still small
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L86[14:06:56] <Althego> guh
L87[14:07:07] <Althego> ("dad" is straming)
L88[14:20:46] <Izaya> tuning carbs for an ICE is enough of a pain and there's only a mild chance of them blowing up in your face
L89[14:20:58] <Izaya> ... are rocket engines ECEs?
L90[14:22:11] <Althego> dont think so
L91[14:22:13] <umaxtu> Izaya, hence my dark magic don't
L92[14:24:10] <umaxtu> *joke
L93[14:24:35] <FLHerne> Depends?
L94[14:24:47] <Izaya> I do not envy people with big old cars that have one carb per cylinder
L95[14:24:53] <Izaya> Tuning two is a pain, tuning 8 must be hell.
L96[14:25:00] <FLHerne> Pressure-fed engines are pure ECEs, ones with preburner turbopumps are both
L97[14:25:23] <Althego> interesting
L98[14:25:40] <Althego> so the combustion chamber is not part of the engine?
L99[14:25:49] <Althego> ok, it is open towards the environment
L100[14:26:07] <FLHerne> That was my thinking
L101[14:26:15] <Althego> then are jets external combustion too?M
L102[14:26:27] <FLHerne> Maybe?
L103[14:27:12] <FLHerne> "A second class of internal combustion engines use continuous combustion: gas turbines, jet engines and most rocket engines, each of which are internal combustion engines" wiki disagrees :-(
L104[14:27:32] <FLHerne> !stupid conceded
L105[14:27:32] <LunchBot> FLHerne: "To my mind that should class them as amphibians, although this is not generally conceded."
L106[14:27:53] <Althego> them being what?
L107[14:28:28] <FLHerne> Gannets, IIRC
L108[14:29:38] <FLHerne> yes
L109[14:29:42] <FLHerne> "Gannets are bigger than fulmars and more slender and graceful. They dive spectacularly from a great height; they fold up as they hit the water and down as far as two hundred feet they can give a fish a run for its money. To my mind that should class them as amphibians, although this is not generally conceded."
L110[14:29:51] <Althego> their lifestyle is amphibian, but amphibians are not categorized by that
L111[14:29:55] <FLHerne> ^ from Three Ways to Capsize a Boat, which is worth reading
L112[14:30:17] <FLHerne> They aren't, but perhaps they should be :p
L113[14:31:56] <Althego> btw humans are also fish
L114[14:32:14] <FLHerne> Really?
L115[14:32:46] <Althego> because the word "fish" in english is not well defined, what it would mean biologically is basically a vertebrate
L116[14:33:01] <Althego> what we obviously are
L117[14:33:26] <FLHerne> Oh, so the same way birds are dinosaurs
L118[14:33:52] <FLHerne> https://xkcd.com/1211/
L119[14:35:36] <Althego> https://obscuredinosaurfacts.com/blog/post/2019/09/06/i-am-a-fish.html
L120[14:36:13] <FLHerne> !stupid add The fastest animal alive today is a carnivorous dinosaur, Falco Peregrinus. It preys mainly on other dinosaurs, which it strikes and kills in midair with its claws.
L121[14:36:14] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added stupid quote: The fastest animal alive today is a carnivorous dinosaur, Falco Peregrinus. It preys mainly on other dinosaurs, which it strikes and kills in midair with its claws.
L122[14:36:52] <Althego> i also recommend the systematic classification of life from aron ra
L123[14:37:19] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXJ4dsU0oGMLnubJLPuw0dzD0AvAHAotW
L124[14:37:32] <Althego> super dad jokes at the end
L125[14:37:40] <Althego> of each aep
L126[14:38:33] <FLHerne> oh, there was another thing in the bot
L127[14:38:36] <FLHerne> !stupid genera
L128[14:38:36] <LunchBot> FLHerne: General rule: If YOU say you've cracked some long-running puzzle that's baffled experts for decades/centuries, you haven't.
L129[14:38:41] <FLHerne> stupid search
L130[14:38:52] <FLHerne> !stupid phyl
L131[14:38:53] <LunchBot> FLHerne: "He says he is expecting us – Le narrowboat anglais Phyllis May avec ses géraniums."
L132[14:38:55] <FLHerne> agh
L133[14:39:19] <FLHerne> !stupid different genus
L134[14:39:19] <LunchBot> FLHerne: False killer whales (Pseudorca crassidens) can breed with bottlenose dolphins (Tursiops truncatus). Same family (Delphinidae) but different genus, and relatively far-removed genera at that.
L135[14:40:52] <FLHerne> Althego: from your link:
L136[14:41:04] <FLHerne> > “Pachyderms” (meaning thick skin) was a term that basically meant “large gray hairless animals from Africa,” and included rhinos, hippos, and elephants until we realized ... scientists decided the term was basically useless and stopped using it.
L137[14:41:24] <Althego> hehe
L138[14:41:26] <FLHerne> But honestly, that's a useful category
L139[14:42:20] <FLHerne> Lots of genetically-related things fill very different environmental niches, are threatened by different stupid things humans do, and so on
L140[14:43:07] <FLHerne> While distantly-related things that turn out similar through convergent evolution are often useful to consider together
L141[14:45:18] <FLHerne> Like one of the other examples -- different kinds of tree are nearly unrelated, but it's clearly worth defining "tree" as a category
L142[14:46:47] <Althego> yes, tree is a useful category
L143[14:47:27] <Althego> i have never thought of its relation with phylogeny
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L148[16:02:41] <Althego> lol danny's dimension breaker
L149[16:20:56] <Althego> https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1378014439941808131
L150[16:21:01] <Althego> clouds in ksp2
L151[16:21:16] <Althego> i dont need real volumetric clouds, just give some in ksp
L152[16:27:37] <Mat2ch> but are the clouds realisticly simulated, driven by wind and do we get rain? ;)
L153[16:29:02] <Alanonzander> How about snow?
L154[16:29:18] <Althego> even professional military simulators dont do t hat
L155[16:29:28] <Althego> you can turn on rain or snow
L156[16:29:30] <Althego> and clouds
L157[16:29:36] <Althego> but they are not really related to anything
L158[16:30:03] <Mat2ch> Well, the military simulators don't have us as users. ;)
L159[16:30:10] <Althego> ok, the rain and snow is lown by the wind
L160[16:30:20] <Althego> they had me :)
L161[16:30:22] <Mat2ch> And they do training for scenarios, they don't need a simulation
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L163[16:30:55] <Althego> i lost one pair of shoes when i was testing the brakes in geilenkirchen, the bottom part separated
L164[16:31:22] <umaxtu> brake shoes?
L165[16:31:27] <umaxtu> as in drum brakes?
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L167[16:32:07] <Althego> the brakes are on the rudder pedals, by tilting the pedals forward. i was trying to reproduce an issue and for that i needed consistent braking force
L168[16:32:23] <Althego> and my shoes gave up
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L170[16:35:37] <Althego> anyway sims dont have planet wide wather
L171[16:35:40] <Althego> weather
L172[16:35:47] <Althego> what ksp would need
L173[16:50:02] <Mat2ch> well, you can import current weather data into some sims... ;)
L174[16:50:12] <Mat2ch> but KSP would need a simple, but convincing weather simulation
L175[16:50:32] <Althego> as a game you dont need to be correct, just good looking
L176[16:50:52] <Althego> but even adding wind alone just messes up so many things
L177[16:51:31] <Althego> you instantly have two sets of velocity vectors, with respect to ground and respect to air
L178[16:51:41] <Althego> air speed indictations change too
L179[16:51:51] <Althego> not that ksp has realistic air speed indicator
L180[16:51:54] <Mat2ch> jup jup
L181[16:51:58] <Althego> it is magical absolute speed
L182[16:52:07] <Mat2ch> radar! ;)
L183[16:52:23] <Mat2ch> there are enough radio stations around Kerbin, you could do that just by triangulation
L184[16:53:13] <Althego> also drag and lift changes too
L185[16:57:59] <Althego> if you have wind, you can have local conditions near mountain ridges, windhear to complicate you flight, maybe microburst too
L186[16:58:24] <Althego> if you have water, you can have icing on the wind, in pitot tubes, and the runway
L187[16:58:37] <Althego> *windshear
L188[16:59:38] <Althego> see, copenhagen suborbitals can have their own timeline displayed in the stream, while spacex doesnt release anything like that from their tests, and all third party streams are just guessing
L189[17:07:42] <Althego> countdown to test
L190[17:07:57] <Althego> it is working
L191[17:08:26] <Althego> i didnt expect that flame at the end
L192[17:13:46] <darsie> Hawk: ​Valentina Kerman!
L193[17:13:47] <darsie> :)
L194[17:14:00] <Althego> hehe
L195[17:16:29] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-mmGTVL6To
L196[17:16:40] <Althego> HU
L197[17:16:40] <Althego> Hard Landing | a KSP Fan Animation
L198[17:24:02] <Mat2ch> Woah
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L200[17:24:04] <Mat2ch> WOAH
L201[17:24:12] <Mat2ch> That attention to detail!
L202[17:24:12] <Althego> looks totally pro
L203[17:24:14] <Mat2ch> The animation!
L204[17:24:19] <Mat2ch> Yes it does!
L205[17:24:19] <Althego> like the ksp2 trailer
L206[17:24:25] <Mat2ch> Better!
L207[17:31:27] <Althego> btw the fuel indicator moves towards biffer numbers
L208[17:31:29] <Althego> bigger
L209[17:32:48] <umaxtu> I prefer biffer
L210[17:33:28] <Althego> biff tannen
L211[17:36:16] <Althego> wait this is an alcohol lox engine
L212[17:36:23] <Althego> why dont they jus build a v-2 lol
L213[17:37:13] <Althego> countdown to burn
L214[17:37:49] <Althego> that howling second flame
L215[17:38:08] <umaxtu> honestly? the v-2 wasn't that good of a design from a manufacturing perspective
L216[17:38:40] <Mat2ch> it did the raptor burp!
L217[17:38:41] <Althego> but tried and tested
L218[17:40:53] <Althego> so they continue tomorrow
L219[17:41:04] <Althego> easter holiday
L220[17:41:23] * flayer throws Althego a banana
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L222[17:41:37] <Althego> meanwhile each night the poor ingenuity needs to keep itself warm
L223[17:41:49] <Althego> i really want to see it fly
L224[17:41:52] <flayer> i need to learn to build helicopters in ksp
L225[17:42:07] <Althego> i wonder if they can make the rover cams to dontinues movie by limiting resolution
L226[17:44:26] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2t85X4mTtE
L227[17:44:37] <Mat2ch> Danny should join here and do some shameless self advertising. :D
L228[17:44:42] <Althego> hehe
L229[17:44:52] <Althego> yes just watched the last few
L230[17:45:12] <Althego> the cockpit dimension is freaky
L231[17:45:32] <Althego> also it is not worth to advertise for liek 10 people
L232[17:52:47] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XytbA5gn5Y How does he find those bugs?! HOW?
L233[17:53:39] <Althego> the best is still the rectangular orbit lines
L234[17:55:17] <Mat2ch> yeah
L235[17:55:35] <Althego> ut this is close
L236[18:03:28] <Mat2ch> ut
L237[18:03:30] <Mat2ch> ?
L238[18:03:32] <Althego> but
L239[18:03:51] <Mat2ch> ah!
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L241[18:21:44] <FLHerne> https://twitter.com/TrevorMahlmann/status/1378743810323316741
L242[18:22:26] <Althego> hehe
L243[18:23:32] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: Take any contraption and add a claw to it
L244[18:23:39] <FLHerne> !stupid klaw
L245[18:23:39] <LunchBot> FLHerne: "After docking with the klaw, the camera flies away violently and then everything explodes."
L246[18:23:44] <FLHerne> yeah, like that
L247[18:27:34] <raptop> !outcome add The Sphinx of black quartz harshly judges your vow.
L248[18:27:34] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: The Sphinx of black quartz harshly judges your vow.
L249[18:29:46] <Althego> what
L250[18:29:57] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/CFlXktI.jpg
L251[18:30:04] <Althego> yes i take the sphinx
L252[18:30:13] <Althego> i cant even remember the dog sentence correctly
L253[18:31:15] <raptop> Also, "jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz"
L254[18:31:28] <raptop> In conclusion, quartz sphinxes are good
L255[18:32:02] <raptop> (Note that the judgement includes five quacking zephyrs jolting your wax bed)
L256[18:32:05] <Althego> is there black quartz
L257[18:42:31] <raptop> sure, why not
L258[18:54:41] <Althego> ok looks cool
L259[19:06:56] <Althego> scott
L260[19:08:41] <Althego> lol, many people proved the alcohol used to fuel the redstone was afe enough to drink
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