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L3[00:16:32] <StormpilotKERBALKIND> yoyoyo

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L5[00:17:41] <raptop> okay

L6[00:17:45] <raptop> 15 seconds

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L20[03:52:20] <flayer> i love the docking port on the hinge

L21[03:53:04] <flayer> i just need a losing port in front, a fuel drain, a few more batteries, and i'm good to go for jool

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L26[04:36:05] <Althego> ah, i thought anton skipped april first, but no, he just had to join in the stupidity. i guess there was thiss the first for him

L27[04:36:13] <Althego> *still

L28[04:40:25] <Althego> actually it was a kind of nice video, even though it was about history of noodles instead of some space object

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L39[07:59:52] <Althego> hehe intel is competitive in the low end with the i5-11400

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L52[11:37:10] <Althego> (local) leet time

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L63[13:56:15] <prefixcactus> !mission

L64[13:58:30] <Althego> not today

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L66[14:06:03] <prefixcactus> :(

L67[14:06:31] <darsie> prefixcactus: Jetpack to orbit from Mun surface.

L68[14:07:04] <prefixcactus> er, are you suggesting I do that or what?

L69[14:07:46] <prefixcactus> Haven't done that since 1.0...

L70[14:08:03] <darsie> yes. That's your mission now :).

L71[14:08:12] <prefixcactus> Is it harder now?

L72[14:08:17] <darsie> idk

L73[14:08:22] <darsie> It's a close shave.

L74[14:08:33] <prefixcactus> Yep

L75[14:09:06] <darsie> Probably a little easier from the equator, but possible from everywhere. Unless you need to fly over a high hill.

L76[14:09:47] <darsie> I usually do it with Superman attitude.

L77[14:10:08] <Althego> hehe

L78[14:10:11] <darsie> :)

L79[14:10:13] <darsie> head first

L80[14:10:19] <Althego> more like ironman

L81[14:10:23] <darsie> k

L82[14:10:31] <Althego> because you cant stretch your arm out forward

L83[14:11:01] <darsie> That should be possible :)

L84[14:11:48] <darsie> Could be an easter egg of badS Kerbals, if they do long 'up' thrusts.

L85[14:12:50] <darsie> Do they need both hands at the RCS controls? Nah, one could be enough, right? :)

L86[14:14:07] <Althego> for translation and rotation you need 6 dof, you can only control 3 dof with a single stick

L87[14:14:55] <Althego> i didnt know moona can sing so well

L88[14:15:02] <darsie> who?

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L92[15:19:09] <darsie> Since there's a new 'time warp to next morning' button I often accidently click that instead of 100,000x warp.

L93[15:19:20] <darsie> you, too?

L94[15:19:53] <Althego> i never click the gui for timewarp, i use the keyboard

L95[15:22:55] <darsie> Free tourist with chute and working jetpack: https://i.ibb.co/Cm1gL6W/screenshot437.png

L96[15:29:10] <packbart> I never tested the new "warp to morning" button in flight scenes. does it warp until a physray hits the/any sun?

L97[15:29:43] <darsie> it warps till teh sun is about 20° above the horizon.

L98[15:30:00] <darsie> in the KSC

L99[15:30:25] <packbart> so, regardless where your craft is? I'll try it later, I guess

L100[15:30:46] <packbart> I would have imagined that it warps until you can see a sun from your current position

L101[15:30:47] <darsie> It doesn't exiyst outside the KSC.

L102[15:30:59] <packbart> it does

L103[15:31:08] <packbart> or did I misremember?

L104[15:31:15] <packbart> it's a new-ish feature

L105[15:31:59] <darsie> not for me.

L106[15:32:12] <darsie> 1.11.2

L107[15:32:23] <packbart> hm. Loading...

L108[15:35:14] <darsie> Not even on the launchpad.

L109[15:36:54] <packbart> I see a "warp to sunrise" button on the launchpad. also on the Mun

L110[15:37:07] <packbart> and it works, too

L111[15:37:07] <darsie> mod+

L112[15:37:09] <darsie> mod?

L113[15:37:20] <darsie> DLC?

L114[15:37:53] <packbart> no. yes, DLCs installed but I don't think it matters. hover the mouse over the time display, see timewarp options and that button appear

L115[15:39:33] <packbart> https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/foo.jpg - push that button and it warps til next sunrise at that location

L116[15:39:57] <darsie> Well, not for me: https://i.ibb.co/nm397W3/screenshot439.png

L117[15:40:13] <packbart> it is under that tooltop

L118[15:40:15] <packbart> -tip

L119[15:40:27] <darsie> Ahh, there :). thx!

L120[15:41:26] <packbart> pushing it on the Mun waps 6 days forward

L121[15:41:47] <packbart> (shouldn't that be ~3 days? hm)

L122[15:42:15] <packbart> it is disabled in orbit, though

L123[15:42:28] <darsie> doesn't work in orbit.

L124[15:43:16] <packbart> and 6 days are correct. I pressed the button early on "Mun morning"

L125[15:43:31] <darsie> They could have made Moho tidally locked to Kerbol.

L126[15:43:57] <Althego> i think even mercury is just in a resonance

L127[15:44:35] <darsie> mhm

L128[15:44:54] <darsie> But the Kerbol system is much smaller.

L129[15:45:18] <Althego> smaller because of technical reasins

L130[15:45:19] <darsie> Planets in red dwarf habitable zones are expected to be locked.

L131[15:45:29] <darsie> Because of gameplay reasons.

L132[15:45:41] <Althego> they tried to have analogs with the solar system

L133[15:46:47] <packbart> now I'd need to test if the "Warp to Sunrise" button works correctly with multiple suns. but eh, not today

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L135[15:51:33] <packbart> or whether it warps past an ecplipse or not

L136[17:04:53] <Mat2ch> looks like they are going to stack SN15 soon. Tomorrow maybe?

L137[17:05:29] <Althego> stack your rocket, not heap it

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L140[17:08:50] <Mat2ch> well, the last one was heaped.

L141[17:09:13] <Mat2ch> On a very widespread heap

L142[17:09:21] <Althego> yes, that is why i said it

L143[17:09:38] <Althego> and for the joke

L144[17:09:55] <Mat2ch> and I thought you are just making a very bad programers joke. :D

L145[17:10:11] <Althego> dual purpose

L146[17:11:04] <Mat2ch> that costs extra!

L147[17:11:35] <Althego> obviously a rocket doesnt fit in a register. might fit in a cache though

L148[17:14:07] <packbart> Got a rocket, in your pocket; Keep coolly cool, boy!; Don’t get hot; ‘Cause man, you've got; Some high times ahead

L149[17:14:11] <packbart> mad dance moves*

L150[17:30:33] <Althego> remember elon's cringe dance moves?

L151[17:30:48] <Althego> maybe there should be a rocket dance

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L162[18:59:50] <darsie> The fairing still has high drag if it's the root part: https://i.ibb.co/S3spZX1/screenshot442.png https://i.ibb.co/nsb1JYW/screenshot443.png

L163[19:03:04] <JVFoxy> also very aerodymanic in ways too

L164[19:03:15] <JVFoxy> aerodynamic... oh wahtever

L165[19:03:43] <darsie> In the first pic the fairing is root, in the second the okto2.

L166[19:04:10] <darsie> 20 km vs. 309 km Ap.

L167[19:05:47] <JVFoxy> guess they didn't think people would use a fairing as a root part all the time?

L168[19:05:57] <darsie> It's a bug.

L169[19:06:23] <darsie> If they knew about it, they'd fix it.

L170[19:06:25] <JVFoxy> the octo probe in sandbox only has the one SAS mode.. while in career, all probes have everything... ya I'm calling bug

L171[19:06:27] <darsie> Or document it.

L172[19:06:47] <darsie> That's not the bug this is about.

L173[19:07:42] <JVFoxy> no but there are has been quite a number of them cropping up since the 1.11 edition

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L179[19:41:11] <packbart> hm, already gone. that particular bug has been fixed, if I recall correctly

L180[19:42:14] <Althego> that reminds me, how are the rc bugs in debian. 205. not looking good

L181[19:42:46] <packbart> (hm. maybe it was this and similar: https://bugs.kerbalspaceprogram.com/issues/27169 )

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L183[19:44:10] <Mat2ch> wait, they know this for 2 month now and couldn't fix it in the last point release?

L184[19:47:39] <Althego> https://twitter.com/chicago_glenn/status/1378063097622052867

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L187[20:34:32] <darsie> Due to a bug the fairing has high drag when it is the root part. Make a different part the root part before flying. https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/AE-FF1_Airstream_Protective_Shell_(1.25m)#Notes

L188[20:39:00] <Althego> hehe

L189[20:39:30] <Mat2ch> .oO( I will not ask why it matters what the root part is for calculating the drag... )

L190[20:40:00] <Althego> and why the difference is so big

L191[20:40:10] <Althego> but there can be strange cases going on

L192[20:40:22] <Althego> what we cant think of

L193[20:42:21] <darsie> Maybe the fairing base ignores the fairing if it's root.

L194[20:42:47] <darsie> Hmm, stuff inside should get hot, then.

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L197[20:44:41] <darsie> ahh, there is #kspmodding .

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L199[20:45:16] <packbart> there's also #kspmodders but it requires a registered nick

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L202[20:46:34] <Althego> i never know which one is the real one

L203[20:46:40] <darsie> They seem to be very strict.

L204[20:46:50] <Althego> it is like the people's fron of judea

L205[20:47:10] <packbart> I did get my answers in #kspmodders

L206[20:47:18] <packbart> but I forgot the nickserv password again

L207[20:47:35] <Althego> the client can remember it for you

L208[20:47:35] <packbart> it should expire soon. or maybe I need to rename myself first

L209[20:47:52] <darsie> I put a sat in Kerbin orbit and hat 19 m/s left.

L210[20:48:12] <Althego> hehe

L211[20:48:17] <Althego> well designed

L212[20:48:23] <darsie> yeah :)

L213[20:48:31] <darsie> minimalistic, as usual :)

L214[20:48:40] <darsie> Hammer, Spark

L215[20:49:02] <darsie> Resource scanner

L216[20:50:00] <darsie> Struggled a bit to make orbit, but with keeping the nose up it worked.

L217[20:51:16] <darsie> Maybe letting Ap slip behind me would have been more efficient, but that's so advanced :).

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L219[21:14:25] * darsie found a better rocket for that sat mission in his saved designs. Too late ...

L220[21:37:30] <darsie> My orbit is within that of my target, yet I have two intersects ... https://i.ibb.co/GpPypW7/screenshot447.png

L221[21:39:51] <darsie> I guess it's due to inclination.

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L224[22:18:22] <Mat2ch> oh, wow, they're faster than expexted. SN15 is already stacked

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L227[23:36:08] <darsie> Recovering a Mainsail was not trivial.

L228[23:36:19] <darsie> 6 t

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L232[23:50:57] <packbart> ooh, suit updates. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/409435221977595924/826920532380483584/EMU.png

L233[23:51:00] <packbart> ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/201382-x )