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L8[00:45:56] * raptop
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L24[06:23:55] <Althego> lol elon and the
check out our new crane tweet
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L27[08:39:59] <Althego> hehe reaper
learning german... but starts 1 in the morning. sadly i will have
to watch it later
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L38[11:07:53] <Mat2ch> LabPadre has a
stream set up for today. I wonder if this is a mistake or if they
know things we don't know.
L39[11:08:48] <Althego> hehe
L40[11:09:01] <Althego> lately spacex
doesnt do anything in boca chica in the weekend
L41[11:09:16] <Althego> i think there was
something from elon too
L42[11:09:25] <Althego> aside from the
crane joke
L44[11:10:21] <Althego> paypal now does the
2 facto sms thing
L45[11:12:31] <Mat2ch> you can pay 16 USD
and get every SMS redirected to you
L46[11:12:36] <Mat2ch> not safe.
L47[11:13:16] <Althego> i think this must
be some eu regulation. banks already had to do this, and i was
afraid paypal would stop working
L48[11:13:59] <Mat2ch> if there only were
some standards, here you could offer a code and an app!
L49[11:14:01] <Mat2ch> Oh, wait
L50[11:14:03] <Mat2ch> THERE ARE
SOME.
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L58[12:49:45] <flayer> sigh
L59[12:49:53] <flayer> 14 minute
burn...
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L61[13:03:54] <Mat2ch> sounds efficient at
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L67[14:40:50] <Althego> what there was
another event horizon with paul davies
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L73[17:15:16] <sandbox> Apophis
L74[17:16:42] <raptop> more or less the
same risk class as bennu now?
L75[17:30:06] <flayer> food, raptop, i have
food!
L76[17:37:33] <raptop> yay, food
L77[17:57:02] <Althego> hehe, track 3
titled: guh
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L79[18:29:37] <Mat2ch> someday Squad has to
explain to me how the 10m heat shield works.
L80[18:31:19] <Mat2ch> It always(!) flips.
Regardless what I do.
L81[18:33:59] <Althego> hehe
L82[18:34:11] <Althego> is that the
inflatable?
L83[18:34:23] <Althego> also explain the
science bay
L84[18:34:39] <Althego> it always overheats
if the same sized heat shield is in front of it
L85[18:34:44] <Althego> in reality it
wouldnt
L86[18:40:54] <FLHerne> Why wouldn't
it?
L87[18:41:18] <Althego> because the
heatshield does not transfer heat and the air is deflected sideways
so it doesnt touch it
L88[18:41:37] <FLHerne> It's cylindrical,
so the sidewalls will be in the airflow to some extent
L89[18:41:43] <Althego> and as we have seen
in the rover landing video the heatshield should stay stable
L90[18:41:45] <FLHerne> There's a reason
capsules have angles
L91[18:42:00] <FLHerne> I've not tried out
the megaheatshield yet
L92[19:09:15] <Mat2ch> Neither has Squad.
:D
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L94[19:10:44] <packbart> well, it does
work. it would be as weird in real
L95[19:10:49] <Althego> usually i us it for
eve landing. and you cant deflate it, which is dumb, normally it
would be deflated for sure
L96[19:10:53] <Althego> then if oyu detach
it
L97[19:10:58] <Althego> it just slams into
the ship
L98[19:11:06] <Althego> or if doesnt it
starts to spin faster and faster
L99[19:12:02] <packbart> I use the
"normal" heat shields on Eve
L100[19:12:29] <Althego> they are4 too
small
L101[19:12:40] <Althego> for an aascent
stage
L102[19:13:11] <packbart> ok, I just don't
plan on returning from Eve's surface :)
L103[19:18:33] <Mat2ch> Powered landing
all the way. That seems to be the only good way to land on
Eve
L104[19:18:44] <Mat2ch> or use arrays of
regular heat shields
L105[19:19:24] <Althego> wait, the whole
craft flips for you?
L106[19:19:31] <Mat2ch> yes!
L107[19:19:37] <Mat2ch> the aero model is
just broken :)
L108[19:19:42] <Althego> some people add a
second heatshield at the back
L109[19:19:46] <Althego> that cancels the
effect
L110[19:19:47] <Mat2ch> I know
L111[19:19:49] <Mat2ch> :D
L112[19:19:54] <Althego> i add a fey find
behind the heatshield
L113[19:20:03] <Althego> at the very
to
L114[19:20:04] <Althego> p
L115[19:20:10] <Althego> where i put
angled engines too
L116[19:20:34] <Althego> so if it really
wants to flip or heat up, i can just break a little
L117[19:20:59] <Althego> so landing an
ascent stage looks more like a bomb
L118[19:21:02] <Mat2ch> the parachutes
aren't really Eve-compatible either... for such a harsh environment
you would usually have other designs
L119[19:21:25] <Althego> heatsgield is the
nose, some cylindrical thing in the middle which is the body, and
some stabilizing fins on top
L120[19:21:41] <Mat2ch> heat shields in
front of the craft to use as "parachutes" for reentry.
;)
L121[19:22:58] <Althego> i havent done an
aerobraking at jool since heat was introduced. i have to try the
inflatable there too
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L127[21:14:25] <FLHerne> !stupid state of
matter
L128[21:14:26] <LunchBot> FLHerne:
"People always said the old placeholder was like flying in
soup, but I disagree; it was like flying in some state of matter
not currently known to man."
L129[21:14:53] <FLHerne> ^ compared to the
pre-1.0 aero model, the current one is amazing
L130[21:15:22] <FLHerne> Planes *sort of*
behave like planes in some flight regimes
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