OCLogs: 2021-03-26.log

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L4[00:54:23] <darsie> https://i.ibb.co/TPL9ysq/screenshot404.png https://i.ibb.co/WGd1DXw/screenshot406.png

L5[00:54:54] <darsie> I figured out why jet engines flame out so annoyingly and what to do about it.

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L9[00:55:56] <darsie> Air is a resource like fuel and it's stored in air intakes. Intakes supply it to the engine and replenish it from the atmosphere, depending on speed and altitude.

L10[00:56:10] <darsie> When it runs out, the engine flames out for a moment.

L11[00:57:32] <darsie> Now the engine adjusts its fuel and air consumption depending on speed and altitude, but not smart enough to avoid these flame outs. To avoid them, throttle the engine.

L12[00:59:13] <darsie> I circumnavigated Kerbin at 1750 m/s with the rapier.

L13[00:59:44] <darsie> To get enough air I tried different and multiple air intakes, but throttling was the best solution.

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L15[01:03:53] <darsie> I angled my wings and at cruise altitude I used prograde hold and adjusted the speed/throttle for level flight.

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L25[02:24:19] <Solar_Oracle> Query: What version of Unity will KSP 2 run on?

L26[02:28:05] <Solar_Oracle> Also: Will it come out before Star Citizen?

L27[02:30:55] <Solar_Oracle> Which reminds me, I should sign up for the Elite Dangerous Odyssey Alpha, just in case KSP 2 is delayed to [DIGIT OVERFLOW ERROR]

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L29[02:40:45] <UmbralRaptop> No idea, and probably

L30[02:42:07] <Solar_Oracle> Or maybe KSP 2 will end up like the next Daikatana: Eventually released, but disappointing?

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L32[02:49:34] <Solar_Oracle> Total War Fans: "I wish they would bring the franchise back to its roots in authentic, historical wargaming." CA: "Announcing Rome: Total War Remastered!" Total War Fans: "Yay, AUTHENTIC, HISTORICAL WARGAMING."

L33[02:49:41] <UmbralRaptop> Maybe. It's worryingly easy to mess up

L34[02:51:02] <Solar_Oracle> A pattern I've noticed with a lot of modern games is that the release version can be nigh unplayable, but a year or two of support can make them into fantastic games like Battletech or Gnome Anne's Sky

L35[02:52:44] <Solar_Oracle> What in Ambassador G'kar's name is happening? KSP is actually running!

L36[02:54:12] <UmbralRaptop> uh

L37[02:54:36] <Solar_Oracle> It, for some weird problem related to the particular version of Unity it was on, hasn't run for several months.

L38[02:55:01] <Solar_Oracle> I'm going to see if the other games on the same version of Unity run now.

L39[02:56:07] <Solar_Oracle> I previously documented the name here, before I accreted enough matter to transform from Jovian Oracle into Solar Oracle https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/198016-unplanned-rapid-disassembly-of-ksp-on-launch-pad/#comment-3879443

L40[02:57:24] <Solar_Oracle> By Captain Sinclair! Even Hardspace is running now!

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L52[05:03:31] <Althego> https://twitter.com/SpaceXMR/status/1375117633515880449

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L56[05:41:41] <Althego> and found flat earth

L57[05:42:05] <Althego> is starship flight today again?

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L71[09:34:02] <Mat2ch> Althego: flight or static fire, what's your guess?

L72[09:34:09] <Althego> maybe both

L73[09:34:30] <Althego> static fire is quite sure today. but why not fly if everything is ok?

L74[09:36:03] <Mat2ch> Sad, Solar_Oracle already left. Wanted to add that KSP2 is always released next year.

L75[09:36:22] <Mat2ch> Usually they did a visual inspection of the raptors

L76[09:37:14] <Althego> what is this? https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_0070.html

L77[09:37:24] <Althego> 13 MILES NW OF CRAZY WOMAN, Wyoming

L78[09:37:30] <Althego> TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR ROCKET LAUNCH ACT

L79[09:46:03] <Mat2ch> sounding rocket maybe?

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L85[11:00:33] <darsie> .

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L95[12:29:01] <Althego> heh there was a oneweb 5 launch, i totally missed it

L96[12:29:16] <Mat2ch> how is the flight abort system called? Because it is installed. So maybe they are really flying today.

L97[12:29:29] <Althego> but there were nice images from a soyuz, that is rare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyLjwrT8nc

L98[12:29:42] <Althego> the flight termination thing?

L99[12:29:56] <Althego> range safety?

L100[12:30:18] <Althego> nsf already has a stream

L101[12:30:27] <Althego> so i think there really might be a launch

L102[12:30:28] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXEq9IX1To

L103[12:36:28] <darsie> https://i.ibb.co/TPL9ysq/screenshot404.png https://i.ibb.co/WGd1DXw/screenshot406.png

L104[12:36:28] <darsie> I figured out why jet engines flame out so annoyingly and what to do about it.

L105[12:36:28] <darsie> Air is a resource like fuel and it's stored in air intakes. Intakes supply it to the engine and replenish it from the atmosphere, depending on speed and altitude.

L106[12:36:28] <darsie> When it runs out, the engine flames out, magically turbine rpm go to 0 instantly and the intake can replenish some air while the engine spins up again.

L107[12:36:28] <darsie> Now the engine adjusts its fuel and air consumption depending on speed and altitude, but not smart enough to avoid these flame outs. To avoid them, throttle the engine.

L108[12:36:28] <darsie> I circumnavigated Kerbin at 1750 m/s with the rapier.

L109[12:36:28] <darsie> To get enough air I tried different and multiple air intakes, but throttling was the best solution.

L110[12:36:29] <darsie> I angled my wings and at cruise altitude I used prograde hold and adjusted the speed/throttle for level flight.

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L113[13:02:44] <Althego> zombanwa

L114[13:02:51] <Althego> but kikkeriki is coming up

L115[13:03:48] <Althego> hmm we are up to siren

L116[13:03:54] <Althego> i came back in time

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L118[13:06:23] * darsie cries because noone reacts to his great insight/discovery.

L119[13:06:45] <Althego> nice discovery, but not exactly new for the most of us

L120[13:06:50] <Althego> although i never tried with rapipers

L121[13:07:10] <darsie> k :)

L122[13:07:24] <Althego> with rapiers it is pedal to the metal until orbit

L123[13:07:46] <Althego> your case was special you wanted to use it as a jet in atmosphere

L124[13:08:05] <darsie> Applies to other jet engines, too.

L125[13:08:09] <Althego> yes

L126[13:08:16] <Althego> usually it happens to me with smaller ones

L127[13:08:39] <Althego> for circumnavigation i usually stick with the turbojets, because they are more efficient

L128[13:08:49] <darsie> Not as fast, though.

L129[13:08:54] <Althego> true

L130[13:09:15] <Althego> looked like a nice static fire

L131[13:09:25] <darsie> If you want to do observation contracts.

L132[13:09:58] <Althego> most of those are don with the panther in my case

L133[13:10:24] <Althego> because even the whiplash is verty high up in the tree

L134[13:10:52] <darsie> I rarely do them. I did when I started with KSP, and used rockets :).

L135[13:12:01] <Althego> yes, the first few can be done with rockets easily

L136[13:12:11] <Althego> because you dont need high horizontal distance

L137[13:15:48] <Althego> do they really want to launch in this fog?

L138[13:17:25] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/HgpKXhx.mp4

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L141[13:39:52] <Mat2ch> darsie: what you are describing about the intakes explains A LOT

L142[13:40:01] <Mat2ch> weird decision to make it that way :(

L143[13:40:28] <Althego> usually i have problems with intake air with ground vehicles

L144[13:40:38] <Althego> they dont move fast, and the intakes may point in random directions anyway

L145[13:41:07] <Althego> and then this flameout happens. was easier to throttle back

L146[13:41:32] <darsie> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Intake_air

L147[13:42:24] <Althego> now we need compressors and air tanks

L148[13:42:42] <Althego> or rather why cant you just replace intake air with oxydizer?

L149[13:42:53] <Mat2ch> weeeelllllll

L150[13:43:04] <darsie> Why can't you just use a rocket engine?

L151[13:44:16] <Althego> hehe, true

L152[13:44:25] <darsie> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Air_intake#List_of_air_intakes seems to list the air storage amount in column intake air.

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L156[14:04:02] <Althego> kikkeriki

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L163[15:34:11] <Rokker> BRO

L164[15:34:16] <Rokker> BROROROOOOOO

L165[15:34:25] <Rokker> THE NAVAHO HAS BEEN RESTORED

L166[15:34:30] <Rokker> I THOUGHT SHE WAS DEAD

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L169[15:44:37] <FLHerne> Rokker: the what

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L173[15:51:46] <Rokker> FLHerne: literally the basis of modern US rocketry

L174[15:52:13] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/selPzWNk/navaho_1.jpg

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L176[15:54:03] <FLHerne> Oh, that did look a bit squashed in the 2016 pics

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L178[16:01:48] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> EA Sports

L179[16:10:01] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> luncbot

L180[16:10:06] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> lunchbot

L181[16:10:45] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> i'm still banned bruh

L182[16:11:10] <Althego> !mission

L183[16:11:10] <LunchBot> Althego: You do not gather your party before venturing forth. You must construct additional pylons.

L184[16:14:34] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> what

L185[16:15:22] <Althego> sounds right. both halves are gaming

L186[16:15:28] <Althego> !mission

L187[16:15:29] <LunchBot> Althego: You try to recreate a previous failure as a learning exercise, but this time with greater sarcasm. You end up 40 km from the closest manned facility with an unconscious crewmate and 10 hours of air in your spacesuits.

L188[16:15:49] <Althego> this sounds right too

L189[16:16:11] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> G A M I N G

L190[16:16:35] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> E P I C L Y G A M I N G

L191[16:18:13] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> since I can add a stupid quote to Lunchbot, someone else please add this: "Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold of out hot eat the food?" - Jon Arbuckle

L192[16:18:22] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> I mean I can't add it

L193[16:18:51] <FLHerne> Is that supposed to be mangled to the point of incomprehensibility?

L194[16:19:04] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> y e s

L195[16:19:09] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> that's the point

L196[16:19:15] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> it's a stupid quote

L197[16:21:07] <Althego> btw atrocious nick. longer than my full name

L198[16:21:54] <pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico> Where did everybody get the idea for their nicknames?

L199[16:22:00] *** pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico is now known as TristenKSP

L200[16:22:06] <FLHerne> Mine is my name :p

L201[16:22:12] <TristenKSP> m

L202[16:22:28] <TristenKSP> Mine is just my name with KSP added at the end.

L203[16:23:12] <darsie> darsie's real name: darsie is my boy scout nickname

L204[16:25:09] <TristenKSP> Althego hbu

L205[16:25:34] <TristenKSP>

L206[16:26:20] <Althego> human bumping unit?

L207[16:30:44] <TristenKSP> how about you

L208[16:34:34] <TristenKSP> Where did you get your nick from

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L210[16:38:35] * UmbralRaptor ponders

L211[16:39:03] <UmbralRaptor> Right, this nick was diapsid + shadows sounds cool

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L214[16:53:10] <FLHerne> And then it changes semi-arbitrarily for various reasons

L215[16:54:00] <TristenKSP> deadraptop died but then he said "no"

L216[16:54:25] <UmbralRaptor> raptop being raptor+laptop

L217[16:54:54] <Mat2ch> why do you keep dead laptops around?

L218[16:55:21] <TristenKSP> how many raptops are there

L219[16:55:48] <TristenKSP> deadraptop, undeadraptop, raptop, umbralraptop/umbralraptor

L220[16:56:11] <UmbralRaptor> user died, not the laptop

L221[16:56:42] <TristenKSP> o

L222[16:57:23] <UmbralRaptor> anyway, lots of bouncing from messing with wifi

L223[16:57:31] <TristenKSP> ő̶̧͖̗̣̮̮͇̈͐̈́̀̍̒͋͘h̴̜̠̦̻͉́̈̂̾̀̓̆̀̐͊̀͂̾͝ ̶̧͕͇̫̝̱̱̪̬̙̱̤̬̖͎̺̇̑̎̓͐̅̽̾̈͗̈́̄͗̍͘͝ǫ̶̞̹̱͍͍̲͖̣͉̰͕͔͈͖̟͕̩̈́̒̈́̾̒̋͛̈̏̑̑͒̏̂̔̕͜͠k̵̡͓̬̺̰̮͙̖̯̘͓͍͖͒̓̔̈̉̐̊̓͑̊̓̈́

L224[16:57:45] <UmbralRaptor> (eduroam works, but not the campus network proper o_O)

L225[16:58:46] <flayer> darsie, not a fan of paid DLC, you say? https://i.imgur.com/UveObpB.png

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L227[16:58:56] <Althego> eduroam sounds like edo ram

L228[16:59:31] <TristenKSP> edo ram

L229[16:59:32] <Althego> tesla already has this. all parts are there for self driving but you need to buy the option

L230[16:59:44] <Althego> edo ram is not from the edo era, but it is quite old

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L234[17:01:04] <Althego> but in case of self driving after a few years there will eb regulation to make it mandatory. just like with seat belts

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L249[17:08:06] <darsie> flayer: We're about to buy a VW ID.4. (ID as in intelligent design ...)

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L252[17:08:36] <Althego> bad name

L253[17:08:49] <Althego> creationists use that

L254[17:08:53] <darsie> mhm

L255[17:09:06] <darsie> Might put off atheists and theists.

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L258[17:12:32] <umaxtu> its a crossover. therefore it is evil

L259[17:15:01] <TristenKSP> i am an atheist

L260[17:15:29] <Althego> religion is a topic to avoid here

L261[17:17:33] <umaxtu> unless it involves the god of MOAR BOOSTERS

L262[17:19:02] <TristenKSP> Rocket doesn't fly? Simple answer! MOAR ENGINES AND BOOSTERS!!!

L263[17:27:08] <darsie> TristenKSP: https://i.ibb.co/cQL9YsX/screenshot407.png

L264[17:27:31] <Althego> decent, but not too big :)

L265[17:27:33] <TristenKSP> oh

L266[17:27:37] <TristenKSP> my

L267[17:27:41] <TristenKSP> science

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L271[17:41:05] * raptop finally gets wifi setup for the campus networks, and then promptly goes home >_>

L272[17:41:08] <Althego> village cleared

L273[17:41:15] <Althego> it is happening

L274[17:41:22] <Althego> (in like 3 hours :))

L275[17:42:07] <raptop> Is this related to kiara expanding the KFP franchise?

L276[17:42:35] <Althego> no, they are parallel

L277[17:46:03] <TristenKSP> !e

L278[17:46:09] <TristenKSP> !stupid

L279[17:46:10] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: "That's a TERRIBLE plan! There's another TWENTY of them! We don't have enough minions!"

L280[17:46:27] <TristenKSP> how do you add a quote to this thing XD

L281[17:47:45] <raptop> Carefully

L282[17:48:30] <TristenKSP> i want to add Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food

L283[17:48:54] <TristenKSP> and "It's not an explosion, just an unscheduled disassembly!"

L284[17:49:02] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRuLfr22BE

L285[17:49:36] <Althego> eh there was swearing at the end. should have watched it before

L286[17:49:44] <Althego> anyway that is a stupid quote

L287[17:50:37] <TristenKSP> S W E A R W O R D B A D

L288[17:56:05] * darsie rescues a Kerbal from Mun orbit ... by letting a Kerbal on the Mun jetpack to a capsule in low Mun orbit, refuel the jetpack, encounter the stranded Kerbal to tell her to jetpack to Kerbin ...

L289[17:56:47] <Althego> hehe

L290[17:58:25] <darsie> Then I'll load an earlier state cause I haven't done my sample return mission from the comet on Kerbol escape trajectory.

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L293[18:03:11] <TristenKSP> ok

L294[18:03:14] <TristenKSP> !stupid

L295[18:03:14] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: "Diameter's a meaningless term. That structure doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to a sphere. Or any rational geometry."

L296[18:04:38] <darsie> At least the capsule has an ion drive with 1500 m/s, so it's not that hard. https://youtu.be/4TxkE_oYrjU?t=376 ;)

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L299[18:06:02] <TristenKSP> ion

L300[18:06:09] <darsie> ion

L301[18:10:11] <Althego> what, "invited her over to eat some foof"

L302[18:10:12] <Althego> what

L303[18:10:18] <Althego> nobody eats FOFF

L304[18:10:21] <Althego> FOOF

L305[18:10:36] <Althego> but i guess a phoenix can eat it

L306[18:13:58] <raptop> *f00m*

L307[18:14:54] <FLHerne> https://i.redd.it/563uzf8ojep61.png

L308[18:15:13] <raptop> heh

L309[18:18:31] <TristenKSP> oh god what happened to Falcon 9

L310[18:19:14] <flayer> it was fired into space repeatedly

L311[18:19:16] <FLHerne> They get a bit toasted

L312[18:21:28] <TristenKSP> they basically decided it was going to be reduced to ashes before they were done with it.

L313[18:22:10] <FLHerne> It's mostly just covered in soot

L314[18:23:36] <TristenKSP> Wilbur Soot?

L315[18:23:56] <Althego> i am waiting for a 10 th launch and landing

L316[18:24:13] <Althego> maybe they will scrub the rocket literally after that

L317[18:25:02] <Althego> flight termination system pin pull

L318[18:25:20] <Althego> i wouldnt want to be one to do that. high up, and something is wrong it explodes in your face

L319[18:27:09] <TristenKSP> RIP L'Manburg

L320[18:28:47] <Mat2ch> Althego: well, if it explodes than it doesn't matter if you are high up or on the ground...

L321[18:29:01] <Althego> no, it matters if i am far away and not there

L322[18:29:12] <Althego> and i hate being high up unprotected

L323[18:29:25] <Althego> even if it doesnt explode

L324[18:29:37] <Mat2ch> probably the pin is just a fuse...

L325[18:35:21] <Althego> when i see the bird, i light the fuse

L326[18:43:25] <TristenKSP> !stupid

L327[18:43:26] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: "We warrant each Acme Klein Bottle for a period of FIVE YEARS to be absolutely free of any magnetic monopoles. If you discover one, contact us immediately and we will refund your purchase price right after claiming the Nobel Prize."

L328[18:43:41] <TristenKSP> what

L329[18:44:04] <darsie> :)

L330[18:44:48] <TristenKSP> !nextlunch

L331[18:44:49] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: Baked potato.

L332[18:44:53] <TristenKSP> yummy

L333[18:45:25] <TristenKSP> Lunchbot is my favorite bot on the server

L334[18:46:23] <Althego> nah

L335[18:46:35] <Althego> fried is way better

L336[18:46:40] <Althego> !nela

L337[18:46:46] <TristenKSP> !nela

L338[18:46:46] <Kerbot> Althego => Starship Prototype - SN11 Test Flight (Suborbital) - Fri Mar 26, 2021 21:00:00 UTC (L-02:13:14) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/sn11-test-flight for info/stream

L339[18:46:48] <Kerbot> TristenKSP => Starship Prototype - SN11 Test Flight (Suborbital) - Fri Mar 26, 2021 21:00:00 UTC (L-02:13:12) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/sn11-test-flight for info/stream

L340[18:46:51] <Althego> hehe

L341[18:47:04] <TristenKSP> me when nela

L342[18:47:04] <Althego> where is that time coming from lol

L343[18:51:06] <darsie> After a few attempts Keldred Kerman jetpacked to Mun orbit and the capsule rendevouzed with him: https://i.ibb.co/WBdfxG7/screenshot408.png

L344[18:52:10] <darsie> rendezvoused*

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L346[19:25:31] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCLEZM_N0K8 Jean-Michel Jarre - Fourth Rendez-Vous

L347[19:25:48] <Althego> and it even has rockets and stuff

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L349[19:29:38] <Althego> kiara and the hair tangent. she said 3rd time it was a normal story

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L351[19:42:09] <TristenKSP> !stupid

L352[19:42:10] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: Just because something’s been done that way for years does not mean that it’s safe.

L353[19:42:21] <TristenKSP> I guess that makes sense

L354[19:42:25] <TristenKSP> !nextlunch

L355[19:42:25] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: Fish & chips.

L356[19:42:31] <TristenKSP> oooh

L357[19:42:36] <TristenKSP> !mission

L358[19:42:37] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You build a ship for the stated purpose of outrunning its own mass. There is a direct correlation between your level of fear and the exponential growth of the fireball.

L359[19:42:47] <TristenKSP> what does that mean

L360[19:43:36] <raptop> You're more scared of the fireball than it is of you

L361[19:43:40] <raptop> And it is growing

L362[19:43:42] <raptop> run

L363[19:44:37] <Althego> oh no scrub

L364[19:44:52] <Althego> road open

L365[19:45:09] <TristenKSP> oh dear

L366[19:45:18] <Althego> and again it is going to happen on a monday close to midnight so that i cant watch it

L367[19:45:23] <TristenKSP> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdU9RzlHm-o epic

L368[19:47:30] <Althego> and i forgot about our ludicrous future

L369[19:49:35] <TristenKSP> ludcrus

L370[19:49:43] <TristenKSP> leg crust

L371[19:49:55] <Althego> ludicrous speed, go!

L372[19:50:19] <Mat2ch> :(

L373[19:50:25] <Mat2ch> I was looking forward to that launch

L374[19:50:35] <Althego> me too

L375[19:50:38] <Althego> in an ideal time

L376[19:50:42] <Althego> after a staric fire even

L377[19:50:52] <Althego> would have been epic without explosion too

L378[19:52:40] <Mat2ch> NSF says they are targetting Monday

L379[19:53:20] <Althego> and then i have to limp through the week with sleep deprivation

L380[19:53:30] <Althego> or if they launch in time maybe not

L381[19:53:42] <Althego> but of course we also lose an hour because of dst

L382[19:54:27] <Mat2ch> yeah

L383[19:54:30] <Mat2ch> I hate dst :(

L384[19:55:06] <Althego> at least now we have 4 day easter like the germans

L385[19:55:13] <Mat2ch> and I'm always sleep deprived, so....

L386[19:55:39] <Mat2ch> it's not really four days. On Saturday usually everything is open.

L387[19:56:11] <Althego> yes of course. but for most people it is a 4 day weekend

L388[19:56:18] <Mat2ch> Well, I have a feeling that even this year everything is open. And in two weeks we have 100k newly infected people and those who are in charge of handling the pandemic will say: How could that happen?

L389[19:56:23] * Mat2ch is tired

L390[19:57:03] <Althego> yes we are probably not past the peak of the 3rd wave (souncd like a movie title, there was some scifi with similar name)

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L392[19:57:19] <Althego> and yet i guess there will be some temporary opening for easter

L393[19:58:53] <TristenKSP> starship keeps getting delayed, spacex STOPPPPP

L394[19:59:13] <Althego> elon is not getting younger :)

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L396[19:59:22] <Mat2ch> I want to move. Not to a different country, but to another planet. Anyone offering a ride? I will make pizza and pudding

L397[19:59:33] <Althego> maybe if he dies before mars is settled they send his body over there or something

L398[20:00:09] <Althego> isnt it all rehydrated stuff in zero g?

L399[20:00:28] <TristenKSP> ye

L400[20:00:33] <Mat2ch> well, another planet far away from this solar system.

L401[20:00:35] <TristenKSP> dehydrated*

L402[20:00:42] <Althego> first de, then re

L403[20:00:53] <Althego> so preparing it is basically adding hot water

L404[20:01:02] <TristenKSP> they actually sell astronaut food at like normal stores

L405[20:01:02] <Mat2ch> So you should bring a craft with a ftl drive. Artifical gravity is a must, too.

L406[20:01:10] <Mat2ch> Humans can't survive long in zero g

L407[20:01:21] <Althego> just liek years

L408[20:01:49] <TristenKSP> I had astronauts cookies and cream ice cream once it was like rock solid and hard to bite into. i got white and brown dust all over my car

L409[20:02:05] <Althego> hehe

L410[20:02:05] <Mat2ch> if one year in micro gravity has an impact on the bones like 30 years on earth then how long can you stay up there before you turn to mush?

L411[20:02:38] <Althego> i would be more worried about heart and eye problems

L412[20:03:21] <TristenKSP> muscle problems especially if you dont work out

L413[20:03:30] <Althego> but they do work out on the iss

L414[20:03:43] <Althego> that largely but not completely helps with the muscle and bone problems

L415[20:03:56] <flayer> bam, two expansions to the solar orbital station on trajectories out of kerbin -> instant sub 10,000 km intersects about 30 days away

L416[20:03:57] <TristenKSP> The longer you stay in 0G the more you need to work out your muscles and bones. Think about how much milk and calcium they drink on the ISS.

L417[20:04:03] <Althego> but as far as i know the eye pressure thing is still somewhat of a msytery

L418[20:04:07] <Althego> and can cause permanent damage

L419[20:04:23] <Althego> i dont drink milk down here either

L420[20:04:32] <flayer> and I only need to adjust the inclination 15 days away to reduce it to less than 100km

L421[20:04:52] <flayer> i think i'm starting to figure this game out

L422[20:05:47] <TristenKSP> Althego you don't drink milk?!

L423[20:05:55] <TristenKSP> How are your bones yes?

L424[20:06:06] <Althego> why would i? doesnt taste good and it is gross, also completely strange

L425[20:06:23] <flayer> he drinks horse semen instead

L426[20:06:27] <Althego> milk is not an essential nutrient

L427[20:06:30] <Althego> lol

L428[20:06:45] <flayer> how do you get your calcium?

L429[20:06:50] <TristenKSP> exactly

L430[20:06:52] <TristenKSP> hw

L431[20:06:52] <Althego> from food i guess

L432[20:07:26] <TristenKSP> not as much from milk tho

L433[20:07:37] <TristenKSP> you must not eat cereal either

L434[20:07:59] <TristenKSP> unless it's with almond milk, which isn't that bad. UNLESS IT'S FREAKING CHUNKY

L435[20:08:33] <Althego> hehe gura and the ame milk :)

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L440[20:15:57] <Webchat454> q

L441[20:15:58] <Webchat454> q

L442[20:15:58] <Webchat454> q

L443[20:15:59] <Webchat454> q

L444[20:15:59] <Webchat454> q

L445[20:15:59] <Webchat454> q

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L448[20:16:46] <TristenKSP> i agree with q

L449[20:18:43] <darsie> Lufred Kerman aerobraked at Kerbin and boarded the orbital lab to refuel the jetpack. Now jetpack deorbit to Kerbin KSC ...

L450[20:19:10] <flayer> its time to send 'the solar express' to the mun, minmus, and eve

L451[20:22:15] <TristenKSP> k

L452[20:22:33] <Althego> wavecable

L453[20:22:50] <Althego> whatever, cables are there to help waves propagate

L454[20:22:56] <TristenKSP> k

L455[20:25:00] <TristenKSP> k

L456[20:25:36] <Althego> ksp, ksc, kfp, kgb?

L457[20:25:49] <TristenKSP> kfc

L458[20:26:24] <FLHerne> TristenKSP: Don't spam the channel with single letters, it's both impolite and against the rules

L459[20:26:50] <FLHerne> (and yes, Webchat454 clearly has the same IP address as you)

L460[20:27:13] <Althego> that is why i said wavecable

L461[20:28:00] <FLHerne> I know, but I don't know if TristenKSP does :p

L462[20:28:27] <TristenKSP> that was an accident

L463[20:28:39] <TristenKSP> my q and enter key weren't working

L464[20:29:09] <Althego> you can test them in other ways

L465[20:30:12] <darsie> How do Kerbals deploy their chute?

L466[20:30:24] <darsie> Lufred had to lithobrake!

L467[20:30:48] <Althego> kerbalks without experience cant

L468[20:31:42] <TristenKSP> kerbalks?

L469[20:31:46] <darsie> Even if they have a chute?

L470[20:32:07] <darsie> Too dumb to pull a line?

L471[20:32:09] <Althego> otherwise it is in the rigth click menu

L472[20:33:58] <darsie> So I thought, but it's not there: https://i.ibb.co/x3c3LV7/screenshot417.png

L473[20:34:50] <darsie> 0* Scientist

L474[20:34:57] <Althego> anyway if the kerbal kame from the mun, it should now have one star

L475[20:35:09] <darsie> I could have upgraded her in the lab.

L476[20:35:13] <darsie> orbital lab

L477[20:35:20] <darsie> Otherwise only after landing.

L478[20:35:25] <darsie> recovery

L479[20:35:35] <darsie> Mun orbit

L480[20:35:58] <darsie> I'll try upgrading ...

L481[20:40:01] <darsie> mhm, 1* Scientist can Deploy Chute ...

L482[20:40:08] <TristenKSP> epic

L483[20:41:09] <TristenKSP> roblox has stocks now

L484[20:41:34] <TristenKSP> !mission

L485[20:41:35] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You disturb the PrefixCactus. You mix up differentiation and disintegration for the last time.

L486[20:42:12] <Althego> lol

L487[20:42:22] <TristenKSP> OH NOOO

L488[20:43:25] <TristenKSP> oh god they're a real user

L489[20:43:29] <TristenKSP> !mission

L490[20:43:29] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You attempt to sue Jebediah Kerman. Jeb having fun.

L491[20:43:30] <Althego> yes

L492[20:43:39] <TristenKSP> Jeb having fun

L493[20:43:39] <Althego> that was one part of the funny

L494[20:43:46] <raptop> Jeb is apparently at least as good as lawyering as flying

L495[20:43:53] <TristenKSP> lawyering

L496[20:43:56] <TristenKSP> !mission

L497[20:43:57] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: In lieu of launching, you begin lunching. Your hype train exceeds 88 miles per hour. You arrive in version .13.3.

L498[20:44:09] <Althego> hehe

L499[20:44:17] <TristenKSP> is this a Back to the Future reference

L500[20:44:22] <Althego> yes

L501[20:44:27] <TristenKSP> figured

L502[20:44:31] <TristenKSP> !mission

L503[20:44:32] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You charge your friendship drive. David Bowie is disappointed in you. You are a very poor Starman.

L504[20:44:39] <TristenKSP> :(

L505[20:44:54] * raptop wonders if the blood drive mission is still in there

L506[20:45:05] <TristenKSP> !nextlunch

L507[20:45:05] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: Mapo tofu.

L508[20:45:15] <TristenKSP> ew lunchbot is vegan

L509[20:45:23] <TristenKSP> tofu sounds gross

L510[20:45:28] <TristenKSP> !nextlunch

L511[20:45:29] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: Tomato and spinach pasta.

L512[20:45:44] <FLHerne> !mission blood

L513[20:45:45] <LunchBot> FLHerne: No mission found matching "blood".

L514[20:45:46] <Althego> !jap mapo

L515[20:45:47] <darsie> Lufred Kerman pulled the line and is coming in for a precision landing: https://i.ibb.co/qypwzCC/screenshot418.png

L516[20:45:47] <Kerbot> Althego => not found

L517[20:45:52] <FLHerne> !outcome blood

L518[20:45:52] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Blood for *all* of the Blood Gods.

L519[20:45:56] <FLHerne> hm

L520[20:46:15] <TristenKSP> !outcome

L521[20:46:15] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: We're going to die.

L522[20:46:16] <raptop> In case anyone is wondering, that means Armok, Khorne, various Aztec deities, etc

L523[20:46:18] <FLHerne> !outcome blood drive

L524[20:46:18] <TristenKSP> O H

L525[20:46:19] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Blood for the blood drive.

L526[20:46:25] <TristenKSP> !outcome

L527[20:46:25] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: Murphy's law was thus renamed in Jeb's honor, after that mission.

L528[20:46:30] <Althego> you can glide quite a lot with the parachute so you will need to circle around

L529[20:46:41] <TristenKSP> THE OUTCOMES ARE WEIRD AND s a d

L530[20:46:46] <TristenKSP> !outcome

L531[20:46:47] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: Everything is smothered in cheese.

L532[20:46:47] <FLHerne> TristenKSP: `!mission` on its own gives you a mission followed by an outcome

L533[20:46:59] <TristenKSP> OOOOOHH!

L534[20:47:03] <TristenKSP> !mission

L535[20:47:04] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You attempt to fire your rockets without advance notice, against union layoff agreements. Things go pear-shaped very quickly.

L536[20:47:08] <TristenKSP> !outcome

L537[20:47:09] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: I?! I?! Supernovy fhtagn!

L538[20:47:15] <TristenKSP> what

L539[20:47:22] <raptop> FLHerne: oh, hey, that outcome indicates a unicode problem

L540[20:47:29] <TristenKSP> what is supernovy fhtagn

L541[20:47:35] <raptop> It should be Iä!, not I?!

L542[20:47:40] <Althego> hehe

L543[20:47:47] <Althego> even then it shouldnt drop the characters

L544[20:47:50] <raptop> supernovy was a mod, and the rest is a cthulhu reference

L545[20:47:56] <FLHerne> raptop: Many of the outcomes are scraped from bees' IRC logs, so I think you have to blame him

L546[20:47:56] <TristenKSP> OH

L547[20:48:03] <TristenKSP> !mission

L548[20:48:04] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You accept a contract to test the Mk16 parachute in flight over Kerbol. This is grossly ethical.

L549[20:48:10] <FLHerne> raptop: (the ones that were original kmath ones)

L550[20:48:13] <raptop> ah

L551[20:48:13] <TristenKSP> this is easy

L552[20:48:16] <Althego> aslo ä, unlike ő and ű had support even before unicode

L553[20:48:17] <TristenKSP> !outcome

L554[20:48:18] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You exhaust the munar supply of karbonite.

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L556[20:48:32] <raptop> TristenKSP: I may want to push you towards messaging LunchBot

L557[20:48:36] <TristenKSP> What?! I was testing a parachute

L558[20:48:39] <TristenKSP> ok

L559[20:48:55] <FLHerne> !outcome fixup s/I?! I?!/Iä! Iä!/

L560[20:48:55] <LunchBot> FLHerne: New text is: Iä! Iä! Supernovy fhtagn!

L561[20:49:18] <darsie> Lufred fell over when landing on the runway.

L562[20:49:29] <raptop> oops

L563[20:49:34] <Althego> was karbonite that strange resource that was supplied in some mod?

L564[20:49:44] <Althego> i think there were two similar mods

L565[20:49:48] <raptop> also kethane

L566[20:49:48] <Althego> i cant remember

L567[20:49:58] <Althego> ah kethane yes

L568[20:50:03] <Althego> that was the one i wanted to remember

L569[20:50:05] <TristenKSP> can you add "It's not an explosion, but an scheduled disassembly!" to the stupid quotes please, FLHerne?

L570[20:50:50] <darsie> a scheduled

L571[20:51:06] <TristenKSP> unscheduled I meant

L572[20:51:48] <FLHerne> !stupid disassembly

L573[20:51:48] <LunchBot> FLHerne: "The steep-vector lithobraking resulted in rapid unscheduled disassembly."

L574[20:51:58] <FLHerne> It has something similar

L575[20:52:02] <TristenKSP> m

L576[20:52:15] <TristenKSP> all i know it's from elon musk

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L578[20:53:01] <FLHerne> He does like that phrase

L579[20:53:10] <TristenKSP> it's funny

L580[20:56:47] <TristenKSP> how much bobuc u gots?

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L582[20:57:40] <FLHerne> what

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L585[20:59:36] <TristenKSP> bobuc

L586[20:59:48] <Althego> whatever that is

L587[20:59:58] <Althego> bubonic plague?

L588[21:00:00] <TristenKSP> Is that the server moding a MOD?

L589[21:01:13] <TristenKSP> !mode

L590[21:01:19] <TristenKSP> !mission

L591[21:01:19] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You head to the nearest pig farm with a bag full of M size rocket motors and stoic determination to prove a point. This grossly violates ITAR.

L592[21:01:28] <TristenKSP> !outcome

L593[21:01:28] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: The video goes viral on YouTube.

L594[21:01:33] <TristenKSP> PFFF

L595[21:01:39] <Althego> haha itar pigs

L596[21:02:01] <Althego> or the pig fart powered rockets

L597[21:02:08] <TristenKSP> i laughed so hard i choked on my apple juice

L598[21:04:09] <TristenKSP> !mission

L599[21:04:09] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You call in sick to work because you spent all night playing SCP Containment Breach. You accidentally discover that putting a prism in your tea does not produce any new flavors.

L600[21:04:18] <TristenKSP> !outcome

L601[21:04:18] <LunchBot> TristenKSP: You notice the double-space formatting in ;mission. This messes with you to no end.

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L603[21:04:27] <TristenKSP> What?

L604[21:04:42] <Althego> there is a double space in this

L605[21:04:47] <Althego> intentionally

L606[21:05:17] <TristenKSP> oh

L607[21:05:18] <Althego> hehe anybody remembers doublespace?

L608[21:06:34] <Althego> now that i mentioned double... anybody remembers onehalf?

L609[21:09:21] <TristenKSP> no

L610[21:10:47] <TristenKSP> f

L611[21:11:09] <Althego> not paying respects for doublespace or onehalf

L612[21:16:04] <TristenKSP> no u

L613[21:21:15] <TristenKSP> ruu

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L616[21:22:36] <FedEx> Your package is at your front door.

L617[21:23:01] <Althego> come back tomorrow

L618[21:23:03] <darsie> TristenKSP: Do you work for FedEx?

L619[21:23:51] <FedEx> no

L620[21:23:59] <FedEx> im 13 years old

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L622[21:24:48] <Althego> i guess the itar pigs were not as funny for you as for me

L623[21:25:17] <TristenKSP> no i didnt understand it

L624[21:25:52] <TristenKSP> The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) is the United States regulation that controls the manufacture, sale, and distribution of defense and space-related articles and services as defined in the United States Munitions List (USML).

L625[21:25:59] <TristenKSP> ok

L626[21:26:30] <Althego> anyway if you want to deal with itar, you have to cut through a lot of red tape

L627[21:27:11] <TristenKSP> y

L628[21:33:35] <Althego> ok i should sleep

L629[21:33:52] <Althego> but there is a tako... eh sleep is more important

L630[21:33:52] <darsie> gn

L631[21:35:22] <TristenKSP> gun

L632[21:36:09] <TristenKSP> !ok

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L634[21:44:07] <raptop> ITAR also means a lot of annoying stuff with some kinds of sensors

L635[21:44:29] * raptop has been at conferences where various vendors are making a big deal of their compliance

L636[21:44:40] * raptop also wants to say that adaptive optics can run into issues

L637[21:44:57] <raptop> (At least with eg: the Kecks. The VLT and ELT should by definition be outside of ITAR)

L638[21:47:11] <darsie> raptop: Because they can determine satellite orbits?

L639[21:47:22] <darsie> Or image sats?

L640[21:48:09] <raptop> darsie: quite possibly that, but I want to say that you can get satellite orbits with much more limited tech

L641[21:48:24] <darsie> mhm

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