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L2[00:32:02] <JVFoxy> uh so.. what to do
with a ship in minmus orbit and 1900dv to spare...
L3[00:32:22] <JVFoxy> I wasn't actually
planning to have that much DV left over, just.. things went better
than expected
L4[00:33:23] <raptop> landing on a
flat?
L5[00:34:11] <JVFoxy> thought about it...
but it be on the terrier bell housing
L6[00:35:25] <JVFoxy> right now I'm getting
low orbit crew eva observations..
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L9[00:56:58] <JVFoxy> wee.. eh well figured
why not, touch down on one of hte flats
L10[01:00:48] <JVFoxy> oh ya.. derped. I
could take surface samplse too
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L12[01:11:09] <raptop> I guess you could
also hang out in munar orbit if you haven'
L13[01:11:15] <raptop> t already mined out
all the science
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L15[01:15:27] <darsie> JVFoxy: The terrier
probably can take 6 m/s impact or so. If you fall over on Minmus,
maybe reaction wheels can get you up again. Or press F9.
L16[01:20:39] <darsie> If you want to be
efficient, send a Kerbal on EVA to scout where there is a three
biome meeting point.
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L18[01:26:56] <JVFoxy> I landed at
2m/s
L19[01:27:21] <JVFoxy> ugh.. seeing those
biomes with the sunlight shining on things.. blind much?
L20[01:31:39] <raptop> Hope none of your
kerbals have vampirism
L21[01:33:23] <JVFoxy> ...
L22[01:33:42] <JVFoxy> surprised kerbals
don't get chunky given all the snacks they keep talking about
eating
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L27[01:58:08] <JVFoxy> whelp.. time to head
home I guess
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L31[02:34:24] <JVFoxy> haaa....! 1297
science just from this minmus mission.. uh.. wow?
L32[02:38:52] <darsie> nice :)
L33[02:38:57] <darsie> gn
L34[02:39:10] <darsie> Minmus is where the
science is.
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L36[02:57:42] <raptop> science tastes like
mint
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L38[03:03:42] <JVFoxy> well.. consider it
is easier to land there. But ugh.. 16 day trip there and back
L39[03:04:19] <JVFoxy> I could have spent a
bit more time, landed on another flat basin but.. eh..
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L55[07:01:20] <Althego> heh, almost 6 hours
of superchat reading. all the tangents. but there is double
speed
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L57[07:54:44] <Althego> finally. i needed a
holiday to finally collect enough spare time to play ksp
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L67[10:47:17] <flayer> nice, built a
low-tech SSTO spaceplane using 6 panthers and a skipper
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L69[10:54:37] <Althego> that is quite big
plane
L71[10:57:02] <Althego> big bada boom
L72[10:57:06] <flayer> i just added a few
more intakes and the hotkeys to close them once the panthers peter
out
L73[10:57:11] <Althego> bit like
blackbird
L74[10:59:44] <flayer> i have absolutely no
use for this plane
L75[11:00:03] <flayer> but i wanted to see
if i could do it with just the panthers
L76[11:01:57] <flayer> i could replace the
crew compartment with a cargo hold for a small satellite i
guess
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L81[11:58:24] <Deddly> I like Panthers. I
made an SSTO with two of them, I think. Wet mode FTW
L82[11:58:54] <Deddly> Pretty sure yours
can manage a bigger payload.
L83[12:37:32] <Althego> (local) leet
time
L85[12:47:29] <Izaya> xfce detected
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L87[12:49:47] <darsie> how?
L88[12:52:06] <Izaya> I know the window
decorations in the screenshot :p
L89[13:06:45] <Mat2ch> more linux users!
\o/
L90[13:11:48] <Izaya> throwback to 2014
when the only stable KSP version with 64-bit addressing was the
linux build
L91[13:12:20] <Mat2ch> and it was
awesome!
L92[13:39:31] <sandbox> I had a dream that
four people went to the moon, but one of their spacesuits was
leaking
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L94[13:57:03] <Mat2ch> well, that is better
than one of my dreams. My brain created a new relationship status:
Buying expensive art together.
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L96[14:14:07] <JVFoxy> that moment when you
realize you start making rockets recoverable alla SpaceX style out
of habit
L97[14:14:35] <JVFoxy> or just cuz you got
the parts count and weight to do it.. instead of using it for extra
science gear
L98[14:19:22] <JVFoxy> also when your
rockets start looking like dfat mortar rounds c_c
L99[14:19:25] <JVFoxy> *fat
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L102[14:36:39] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L103[14:37:03] <Mat2ch> Well, for KSP2 I
wish for a programmable robotics system that simulates things even
I'm not looking
L104[14:37:05] <Althego> no problem as
long as they dont look like fat32 rounds :)
L105[14:37:17] <Mat2ch> like having
recoverability on all stages and it does that automatically.
L106[14:37:23] <Mat2ch> Althego:
out!
L108[14:39:49] <JVFoxy> fat boy..
sorta
L109[14:40:28] <Althego> hehe looks
strange
L110[14:42:19] <umaxtu> Althego, but then
they'd be limited to 4gb file
L111[14:42:28] <umaxtu> /s
L112[14:44:38] <JVFoxy> bleh.. not enough
DV to orbit the lander
L113[14:44:43] <JVFoxy> take'n a
break...
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L120[15:22:54] <Althego> test is in
progress in boca chica
L121[15:22:58] <Althego> but there is
fog
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L125[15:47:07] <Althego> texas
tankwatchers
L126[15:47:22] <Althego> i'm not addicted
(sings the zombie in the background)
L127[15:50:23] *
raptop imagines vtubers commenting on spacex launches
L128[15:50:55] <Althego> there were some
superchats from starship sn10 :)
L129[15:51:34] <Althego> that was the only
connection i found
L130[15:51:40] <raptop> hrm
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L132[15:58:09] <TristenKSP> guys guess
what
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L135[15:58:58] <flayer> TristenKSP,
chickenbutt?
L136[15:59:09] <TristenKSP> no
L137[15:59:14] <TristenKSP> it's my
birhtday
L138[15:59:21] <flayer> happy
birthday!
L139[15:59:25] <flayer> how old are you
now?
L140[15:59:34] <TristenKSP> 13
L141[15:59:39] <TristenKSP> Im a
grandmother
L142[15:59:45] <flayer> nice
L143[16:00:08] <raptop> moving to a house
that strides around on chicken legs soon?
L144[16:00:21] <TristenKSP> no
L145[16:00:33] <TristenKSP> I'm probably
gonna live where I am for years
L146[16:01:49] <Althego> by the looks of
it, the wwather is not going to be nice tomorrow
L147[16:02:21] <TristenKSP> wwather
L148[16:05:59] <Althego> there is no road
closure either. but both sites report the test flight for
tomorrow
L149[16:11:26] <TristenKSP> test flight of
what
L150[16:12:05] <raptop> SN...
something
L151[16:13:24] <Althego> starship
sn11
L152[16:14:09] <TristenKSP> 11th flight?
Is it really gonna take them that long?
L153[16:14:46] <Althego> it is not even
the 11th flight
L154[16:15:11] <TristenKSP> Then why is it
SN11
L155[16:15:44] <raptop> Something
something model numbers
L156[16:15:46] <Althego> because that is
the 11th built by some numbering. next one will be 15, because
12-14 were scrapped halfway
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L159[16:40:00] <flayer> Deddly, removed 2
panthers and some fuel tanks, added a cargo hold, can still get to
orbit
L160[16:41:29] <Deddly> Awesome
flayer
L161[16:41:34] <Althego> but turbojets
would help it greatly
L162[16:41:36] <Deddly> New pic?
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L164[16:41:49] <Althego> i know they are
far up in the tech tree
L165[16:42:30] <Deddly> I think this was
an exercise in mid-tech SSTO
L167[16:43:03] <Althego> looks more
streamlined than the original
L168[16:43:06] <Deddly> That looks
great!
L169[16:43:11] <flayer> yeah, the point is
not to use whiplashes or rapiers or anything
L170[16:43:41] <Deddly> I think you could
get more payload to orbit if you had less wing, but it does look
good
L171[16:43:56] <Althego> wings are not
heavy in ksp
L172[16:44:13] <Deddly> It's the drag
that's the killer
L173[16:44:49] <Althego> and in that wings
can help, if you can point your nose directly in the airstream, you
have the least amount of drag
L174[16:45:33] <Deddly> It's a fine
balance. But generally, less wing will help an SSTO as long as you
can actually take off
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L176[16:46:06] <Deddly> At hypersonic
speeds, Mk2 parts themselves provide excellent lift
L177[16:46:42] <flayer> it basically
hopped off the runway by itself so i'm removing at least one set of
swept wings
L178[16:47:19] <Deddly> This is especially
important for a Panther-powered SSTO, since a lot of your burn in
the upper atmosphere is going to be rocket powered anyway
L179[16:48:08] <Althego> i feel that to be
so wasteful. it loses maybe 400 m/s delta v because of the
panthers, and has to carry too much fuel
L180[16:52:23] <Deddly> It's a design
challenge!
L181[16:52:26] <Deddly> It's fun!
L182[16:52:42] <flayer> i figure if i
design this ship now
L183[16:52:45] <flayer> and get it to work
decently
L184[16:53:05] <flayer> then later i can
replace the panthers with rapiers and have tons more dv on an
already efficient craft
L185[16:53:08] <Deddly> Exactly. I love
taking an old craft and gradually upgrading it
L186[16:53:41] <flayer> also, i'm playing
a career game without planetary multipliers for science
L187[16:53:50] <Deddly> Oooh
L188[16:54:21] <Deddly> Then making good
low-tech craft is very important
L189[16:54:25] <Althego> that is an
interesting decision. i always complain about too much science in
kerbin soi
L190[16:54:40] <flayer> yeah, that is
drastically reduced now
L191[16:54:52] <flayer> i've already done
most of the mun and minmus, don't even have any 550 nodes
unlocked
L192[16:55:05] <flayer> i think about 4
300 nodes are done
L193[16:55:37] <TristenKSP> ._.
L194[16:55:41] <Althego> the gravioli
detector is on an 550 node. and gives a large amount of
science
L195[16:56:29] <flayer> its first on the
list once i have the funds for tier 3 labs
L197[16:56:44] <Mat2ch> uh, venting
L198[16:56:56] <TristenKSP> gravioli,
gravioli, give me the formuoli
L199[16:57:00] <Mat2ch> (on the fuel
farm)
L200[16:57:07] <Althego> and the fog is
gone
L201[16:58:34] <Deddly> Is it just a
static fire today, Mat2ch?
L202[16:58:38] <Althego> yes
L203[16:58:46] <Deddly> Thanks Mat2ch
;)
L204[16:58:49] <Mat2ch> yep
L205[16:58:49] <Althego> but that means a
flight soon
L206[16:58:53] <Mat2ch> and tomorrow
flight maybe
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L210[16:59:40] <Deddly> I wonder how they
solved the deep throttle problem
L211[16:59:44] <Althego> the raptors are
not behaving nicely lately. there were engine changes and second
static fires
L212[16:59:53] <Althego> have you solved
the icing problem?
L213[16:59:57] <Althego> what icing
problem?
L214[16:59:59] <Deddly> Heh
L215[17:00:32] <Deddly> But Elon said
they're going to throttle deeper and land on two engines
L216[17:00:49] <Althego> maybe they
originally were in a higher throttle
L217[17:00:56] <Althego> and ust moved it
lower, inside the engine limits
L218[17:01:03] <Deddly> He previously said
that wasn't possible
L219[17:01:17] <TristenKSP> Things
change
L220[17:01:17] <Althego> raptor is already
quite good if it can go down to 40%
L221[17:01:34] <Althego> and the more they
change, the more they stay the same :)
L222[17:01:56] <flayer> is it really an
ssto if you use stages to activate the upper atmosphere
engines?
L223[17:02:06] <Deddly> They could always
add nitrogen to lower the throttle ;)
L224[17:02:09] <Althego> yes because it
doesnt discard parts
L225[17:02:23] <Deddly> flayer, as long as
you don't drop any parts, it's SSTO
L226[17:02:48] <flayer> i've also got a
spacelane that is launched on an SSTO rocket
L227[17:02:52] <flayer> spaceplane*
L228[17:02:59] <Deddly> You're using the
staging sequence merely as an alternative to action groups
L229[17:04:21] <Deddly> I often also use
the Abort action group when I haven't upgraded the SPH :)
L230[17:04:52] <Althego> somehow i almost
never use that
L231[17:05:05] <Deddly> Brakes can also be
used to good effect. I often use brakes to toggle wet mode on the
Panthers
L232[17:05:19] <Althego> but in early
probes when i dont have access to all the groups i use gears and
such to deploy antennae
L233[17:05:22] <Althego> and oslar
panels
L234[17:05:25] <Deddly> And the abort can
be used to toggle something else
L235[17:05:49] <Althego> ominous fog
L236[17:06:07] <Deddly> It's only when I
unlock level 3 SPH that I actually use the abort group for a real
abort
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L239[17:07:10] <Althego> hehe sph is the
last building i upgrade
L240[17:07:23] <Mat2ch> Runway ;P
L241[17:07:24] <Izaya> abort is for
crossing the atmosphere interface
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L243[17:07:42] <Althego> runway is a lot
chepaer
L244[17:08:00] <Mat2ch> When I get to the
runway I have so much money...
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L247[17:08:30] <Althego> with hard
settings money is constantly an issue. part unlocks and building
upgrades together are quite expensive
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L249[17:08:42] <Deddly> I find it fun to
do a spaceplane-only career
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L251[17:08:50] <Althego> zen is old. we
are waiting for zen 4 now :)
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L257[17:09:45] <TristenKSP> Is the
L258[17:10:05] <Izaya> zen is newer than
haswell and haswell is stronkest
L259[17:10:31] <TristenKSP> stronk
L260[17:10:40] <TristenKSP> strenkth
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L262[17:10:49] <Althego> stonks :)
L263[17:10:59] <TristenKSP>
intelijenc
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L298[17:11:16] <TristenKSP> WHAT THE
L299[17:11:19] <Althego> the split
L300[17:11:26] <Deddly> Netsplit
L301[17:11:27] <TristenKSP> WHAT WAS
THAT
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L304[17:11:33] <TristenKSP> WHAT'S A
NETSPLIT
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L308[17:11:40] <Izaya> fr though what's
the fastest processor I can get that uses DDR3? is it the 4790 I
already have?
L309[17:11:45] <Althego> an irc network is
build from several servers. and people are logged into different
servers. but servers communicates
L310[17:11:49] <Deddly> TristenKSP, on
IRC, sometimes a server gets split off
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L312[17:12:01] <TristenKSP> the server
committed die?
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L314[17:12:14] <Mat2ch> was probably just
restarted.
L315[17:12:16] <Althego> if the servers
lose connections among each other the network can split into two
halves. in that case servers generate quit messages on both sides
for the people on the other servers
L316[17:12:21] <TristenKSP> oh
L317[17:12:22] <Deddly> TristenKSP, it
just disconnected from the server we're on. It will be back
:)
L318[17:12:28] <TristenKSP> oh
L319[17:12:42] <raptop> oh no
L320[17:12:45] <Deddly> So for them, it
looks like WE all left
L321[17:12:48] <Althego> not another fire
:)
L322[17:12:54] <TristenKSP> :')
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L324[17:13:36] <Deddly> TristenKSP, I've
not seen you around before. Have you come from the forum?
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L333[17:13:54] <TristenKSP> I've been here
awhile
L334[17:14:04] <TristenKSP> a few months
at least
L335[17:14:14] <Deddly> Cool. So it's me
who's been inattentive, sorry :)
L336[17:14:17] <Althego> sound
L337[17:14:21] <TristenKSP> sound
L338[17:14:22] <Althego> there was no
image
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L340[17:15:02] <Deddly> LOL what was that?
I had music playing at the same time
L341[17:15:12] <Althego> not the
engine
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L344[17:15:20] <Althego> there is nothing
on the launch ad cam
L345[17:15:22] <flayer> it seems the
panthers refuse to work past 800m/sec
L346[17:15:26] <TristenKSP> starship is
doing
L347[17:15:32] <Althego> you can go up to
maybe 900
L348[17:15:36] <Althego> i think
L349[17:15:37] <Mat2ch> great, now the
live cam died or the uplink
L350[17:15:54] <TristenKSP> >:l
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L352[17:15:56] <flayer> yeah, they start
choking at halfway through 800
L353[17:15:58] <raptop> flayer: sounds
about right. Should be higher in wet mode
L354[17:16:06] <flayer> no, that's wet
mode
L355[17:16:10] <Althego> thaty is why i
said it loses around 400, or even more, because you can go up to
1400 with turbojets
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L357[17:16:36] <raptop> doh
L358[17:16:48] <raptop> Anyway, all hail
the turboramjet
L359[17:16:50] <flayer> nonetheless, it is
a success
L361[17:17:20] <Deddly> Thanks
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L364[17:17:29] <TristenKSP> . _ .
L365[17:17:31] <Althego> the flames are
not visible from this
L366[17:17:42] <Althego> what is that
sound
L367[17:17:58] <Althego> the death of a
cyber dragon
L369[17:18:15] <TristenKSP> They should
make a Σ rocket
L370[17:18:35] <TristenKSP> (Sigma)
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L372[17:18:47] <Althego> and also a
Δ
L373[17:18:53] <TristenKSP> Alpha
L374[17:18:55] <TristenKSP> Beta
L375[17:18:56] <TristenKSP> Gama
L376[17:19:00] <TristenKSP> Gamma*
L377[17:19:03] <Deddly> Labpadre is
back
L378[17:19:05] <TristenKSP> Delta
L379[17:19:10] <TristenKSP> Sigma
L380[17:19:12] <Althego> then dock
together to get Σ-Δ
L381[17:19:22] <TristenKSP> That symbol
actually looks cool
L382[17:19:35] <TristenKSP>
Sig-Delta
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L384[17:20:07] <TristenKSP> α -
alpha
L385[17:20:11] <Althego> btw why do
american universities have these 3 greek letter thingies?
L386[17:20:22] <TristenKSP> idk
L387[17:21:36] <Althego> ℵ null
L388[17:21:54] <TristenKSP> α - alpha, β -
beta, Γ - gamma, Δ - delta, Σ - sigma
L389[17:22:14] <raptop> Althego: so the
designated party areas look fancy
L390[17:22:39] <Althego> your alpha and
beta are "small" letters, the others are capital
L391[17:22:45] <TristenKSP> i know
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L394[17:23:02] <Deddly> A want to see
Starship go SSTO
L395[17:23:12] <Althego> nah
L396[17:23:14] <TristenKSP> SSTOs are
meh
L397[17:23:23] <Althego> if it is
completely reusable, doesnt matter
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L399[17:23:31] <Deddly> Only for testing
purposes
L400[17:23:36] <Althego> maybe with
nuclear rockets?
L401[17:23:40] <Deddly> Not for an actual
serious mission
L402[17:23:54] <Althego> maybe it could
put a single cubesat into orbit :)
L403[17:24:09] <TristenKSP> nuclear is
1'000x more powerful than present day rocket fuel
L404[17:24:29] <Deddly> SSTO would be a
good way to test re-entry profile
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L406[17:24:36] <Althego> no, just about
2x
L407[17:25:11] <Althego> too bad in case
of a launch accident huge areas would be contaminated
L408[17:26:12] <Deddly> That's a strong
case for ocean-launch sites
L409[17:26:52] <Althego> it would still
contanminate a huge area
L410[17:27:00] <Althego> there was a
fire
L411[17:27:17] <Althego> or
something
L412[17:27:34] <Althego> heh people say
abort
L413[17:27:50] <Althego> maybe they can
try again
L414[17:27:52] <Deddly> Looks like a
successful fire
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L416[17:28:13] <Althego> he nerdle cam
didnt show it
L417[17:28:18] <Althego> the other didnt
see it
L418[17:28:19] <TristenKSP> It's not a
crash, just an unscheduled disassembly.
L419[17:28:49] <Deddly> Lappadre + sound
from the pad cam is a good como
L420[17:28:52] <Deddly> combo
L421[17:29:28] <TristenKSP> In KSP though,
it would be; "It's not a crash, just an unscheduled existence
eradication." Cause things cease to exist when you crash in
KSP
L422[17:31:35] <Deddly> Not true. Kerbals
are send to another dimension from which they eventually teleport
back to KSC
L423[17:31:39] <raptop> Fortunately,
Kerbals respawn [needs clarification]
L424[17:32:26] <Deddly> I always turn that
off, though
L425[17:32:42] <Deddly> I like crashes to
have consequences
L426[17:32:48] <TristenKSP> Wait, Kerbals
are put in an unreachable place in the game before
respawning?
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L428[17:33:51] <raptop> Deddly: of course,
you could always launch Jeb on an escape trajectory out of the star
system
L429[17:34:07] <Deddly> TristenKSP, Yes,
they are missing for a while
L430[17:34:22] <Deddly> raptop, that would
have consequences, yes
L431[17:34:29] <TristenKSP> but, isn't
Kerbol's Sphere of Influence infinite? That's what it says on the
KSP wiki.
L432[17:34:46] <Deddly> TristenKSP, you
can still get an escape trajectory
L433[17:35:16] <Althego> kikkerikii
L434[17:35:27] <Deddly> You'll never
actually escape the sun's gravity, but you can get an escape
trajectory
L435[17:36:18] <TristenKSP> what how
L436[17:36:26] <TristenKSP> that doesn't
make sense
L437[17:37:52] <Althego> you are on an
escape trajectory but never actually escape :)
L438[17:38:47] <Deddly> TristenKSP, what
that essentially means is that you're going fast enough that the
gravity will never pull you back, but you'll still be within the
gravity well
L439[17:38:59] <TristenKSP> oh!
L440[17:39:45] <TristenKSP> So you'll
never slow down? Or it will take quite literally forever?
L441[17:39:59] <Althego> never slow
down
L442[17:40:07] <Althego> your remanent
speed at infinity is not zero
L443[17:40:14] <Althego> a hyyperbolic
trajectory
L444[17:40:23] <TristenKSP> oh oke
L445[17:40:28] <Althego> if it goes to
zero at infinigty it is a parabolic trajectory
L446[17:40:32] <Deddly> You'll never slow
down ENOUGH, at least
L447[17:40:56] <Althego> and of course if
it goes to zero before infinity then you are in a bound state,
having elliptic trajectory
L448[17:41:31] <Deddly> TristenKSP, sounds
like you need to try it and see what it looks like :)
L449[17:41:40] <TristenKSP> But, in KSP2,
you'll actually be able to escape Kerbol's SOI
L450[17:41:49] <Deddly> Yes
L451[17:42:04] <Althego> and wait hundred
years to get to the next star system? i wonder how the yare going
to do that
L452[17:42:04] <TristenKSP> Because we
will have more star systems to visit
L453[17:42:28] <TristenKSP> I'mma bout to
end Althego's whole career.
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L455[17:42:38] <TristenKSP> *deep
inhale*
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L457[17:42:42] <TristenKSP> time
warp
L458[17:44:21] <Deddly> There are also
mods that add other star systems to KSP 1
L459[17:44:37] <TristenKSP> ye
L460[17:45:04] <raptop> Althego: Do you
think an owl teaching a shark japanese will go better or worse than
a chicken doing the teaching did?
L461[17:45:23] <TristenKSP> hmmm
L462[17:45:33] <Althego> well, since the
owl is a professional, maybe it can go better. also less
shenanigans
L463[17:45:37] <Althego> or fewwer?
L464[17:45:44] <TristenKSP> I think this
is a trick queston
L465[17:46:09] <Deddly> Who?
L466[17:46:19] <Althego> what?
L467[17:46:30] <Deddly> I was
impersonating an owl
L468[17:46:43] <TristenKSP> :O
L469[17:48:17] <raptop> Yeah, if you don't
keep up your practice, the big green owl will have Deddly
consequences
L470[17:48:34] <TristenKSP> funny,
laughed
L471[17:49:14] <Deddly> フクロウ
L472[17:49:29] <Deddly> Owl
L473[17:49:39] <TristenKSP> ural owl
L474[17:52:34] <TristenKSP> Me and the
boys after saying "no" in spanish in an English only
Discord Server
L475[17:52:45] <Althego> of course by the
owl raptop meant duolingo, the shark is gura, and the chicken is
kiara
L476[17:53:12] <Deddly> Ah, this makes
more sense
L477[17:53:16] <TristenKSP> Is that a jojo
reference
L478[17:53:41] <Deddly> Duolingo is a
language-learning app. I assume the others are too
L479[17:53:52] <TristenKSP> I know
L480[17:53:56] <Althego> no, kiara is an
other holoen vtuber
L481[17:54:48] <Deddly> Ah
L482[17:55:28] <TristenKSP> Me reading my
notifications on my phone; Duolingo: "You missed your spanish
lesson! You know what happens now." ADT: "Intruder Alert
at backyard. Proceed with caution."
L483[17:56:42] <Althego> and since kiara
can fluently speak 3 languages she taught gura japanese once
L484[17:56:55] <Althego> with a built in
rickroll in japanese
L485[17:57:31] <TristenKSP>
"Astley-chan, you'll... never give me up... w-will
you?"
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L490[17:58:54] <TristenKSP> I almost broke
out hysterically laughing while typing that
L491[18:01:16] <Althego> hehe, scorpion
shaped chocolate with a strawberry
L492[18:03:25] <TristenKSP> what
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L495[18:05:06] <jazzkutya> is an okto pod
supposed to do all kinds of sas axis in normal difficulty career
game?
L496[18:05:10] <jazzkutya> also a level 1
jeb
L497[18:05:22] <Deddly> SN11
detanking
L498[18:05:25] <Althego> the basic probe
thing?
L499[18:05:26] <Althego> no
L500[18:05:34] <Deddly> Well,
venting
L501[18:05:43] <jazzkutya> not the most
basic, this is the second one after the stayputnik
L502[18:05:47] <Althego> the okto2 though
is quite advanced
L503[18:06:04] <jazzkutya> somehow in my
game both jeb1 and okto can do radial, node and stuff
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L505[18:06:15] <Althego> yes it is a
common bug
L506[18:06:53] <raptop> big in
1.11.1
L507[18:06:59] <raptop> *bug
L508[18:07:11] <flayer> excellent, only 20
days from my station in solar orbit back to kerbin
L509[18:08:30] <Althego> big in
japan
L510[18:10:05] <jazzkutya> so it's not
something like an ace pilot remote controlling it from the space
center?
L511[18:14:35] <raptop> big in japan would
presumably be coco (180 cm)
L512[18:16:16] <Althego> heh, that reminds
me of "bikicsunáj", when a guy tried to sing big in
japan, but didnt speak english, and he became an internet star for
a short while with the misheard lyrics
L513[18:17:11] <raptop> jazzkutya: please
ignore scott manley smuggling ansibles into the command pods
L514[18:17:13] <Althego> oh and then there
is the coco and haachama despacito
L515[18:18:38] <jazzkutya> what is
"ansibles"?
L516[18:19:30] <Althego> ansible is a
faster than light communication device in the sci-fi novels of
orson scott card
L517[18:19:33] <Deddly> jazzkutya, you
could always just pretend it's an ace pilot controlling it from the
space centre ;)
L518[18:20:21] <Althego> or alternatively
a configuration management and deployment software
L519[18:20:25] <jazzkutya> will do for the
moment, tho it's strange she/he is not showin up in the astronaut
complex :)
L520[18:22:41] <raptop> (and various other
authors, so it's a semi-generic term)
L521[18:23:32] <Deddly> jazzkutya, or, of
course, you could pretend those features aren't there and avoid
using them, if you can resist the temptation :)
L522[18:24:01] <jazzkutya> already used
them and i regret nothing :)
L523[18:24:16] <jazzkutya> i would hate
these lowlevel probe cores otherwise
L524[18:25:05] <Althego> honestly the okto
is ok, the hecs is fine. the only one i hate is the
stayputnik
L525[18:27:12] <Deddly> I'd like a tiny
size 0 probe with the Stayputnik functionality
L526[18:27:23] <jazzkutya> the stayputnik
seems useless without also unlocking an rcs wheel. what that also
goes for the okto
L527[18:27:41] <jazzkutya>
s/what/well/
L528[18:27:47] <Deddly> I think they did
it that way to encourage manned flight
L529[18:27:59] <umaxtu> I also wish there
were more components that could be used to offset the mass of a big
coms dish
L530[18:28:11] <umaxtu> batteries don't
work
L531[18:28:35] <Althego> yes batteries are
quite light
L532[18:28:37] <sandbox> batteries not
included
L533[18:28:46] <Althego> better start
unmanned?
L534[18:28:52] <umaxtu> that and they
aren't physics enabled
L535[18:28:58] <Althego> or what is the
name of the mod
L536[18:29:07] <umaxtu> better then
manned?
L537[18:29:13] <umaxtu> by
flowerchild?
L538[18:29:53] <Althego> anyway i would
like more early unmanned capability and wheels
L539[18:30:13] <Deddly> Early spaceplanes
without wheels are pretty dangerous :)
L540[18:30:40] <Deddly> Kerbals invented
the rocket before the wheel
L541[18:31:10] <raptop> Kerbal wheels are
obviously derived from turbopumps
L542[18:31:12] <Althego> yet they have
turbopumps
L543[18:31:36] <raptop> ...wait, didn't
they also invent reaction wheels before road wheels?
L544[18:32:55] <Althego> lol, experimental
spaceplane slowly moves sideways on the runway
L545[18:34:56] <Deddly> Not really, of
course. They have wheels on all the trucks doing doughnuts in the
VAB.
L546[18:35:58] <Althego> oh, then it must
be they didnt space rate the wheels in the beginning
L547[18:36:03] <Deddly> I guess it took
Kerbals a long time to have wheels approved as safe for flight.
Rockets, on the other hand, are really only useful for flight,
so...
L548[18:36:19] <Deddly> Great minds think
alike :)
L549[18:36:27] <jazzkutya> i see this is
literally the first bug reported for 1.11.1 altho with kerbals, not
probe cores
L550[18:36:48] <jazzkutya> (and later
commented that probe cores are also involved)
L551[18:36:55] <Deddly> Kerbals also have
the same problem?
L552[18:37:03] <jazzkutya> yup
L553[18:37:07] <Deddly> Wow. I'm surprised
that one got throught
L554[18:37:10] <Deddly> through
L555[18:38:28] <jazzkutya> and i thought i
ruined my gameplay expertience with just installing mechjeb (not
using) :)
L556[18:38:32] <Althego> doesnt seem to
happen all the time
L557[18:39:22] <jazzkutya> better take
another 5 year leave from ksp maybe there will be less bugs by that
time :)
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L560[18:41:28] <REZDAWG> im using PS$ im
stuckk im in space i do up my nods and stuff but idk what do i push
too activate my throttle on time or what do i do i get stuck at
that spot cant control my ship is ther a good site or sombody could
explaine plz
L561[18:41:40] <REZDAWG> ps4
L562[18:42:52] <REZDAWG> i understand
about how my noods work it after i put it on do i have too press
anything too get the gass going
L563[18:44:33] <REZDAWG> ill go tru your
tutoral
L564[18:44:35] <raptop> noods?
L565[18:45:04] <REZDAWG> i know im saying
it wrong sr
L566[18:45:21] <REZDAWG> ill figure out
the words and be back soon hahha
L567[18:45:23] *
raptop is mainly just trying to understand the
question
L568[18:45:40] <REZDAWG> me bad
English
L569[18:45:45] <raptop> Ah, afraid I only
know the controls for the PC version
L570[18:45:49] <jazzkutya> it could be
about jeb's noodles :)
L571[18:46:04] <raptop> You'll need to
activate the throttle manually at the time listed by the maneuver
node
L572[18:46:25] <raptop> jazzkutya: A
delicious ramen recipe, with hydrazine added for extra spice
L573[18:46:34] <REZDAWG> wen your in
space
L574[18:46:52] <REZDAWG> afte you put your
line up too know were you want too go
L575[18:46:55] <Deddly> REZDAWG, can you
access KSPedia in the game? It should have a list of controls
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L577[18:47:27] <REZDAWG> what buttons on
ps4 do i push too get my throttle going
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L580[18:48:06] <raptop> ^
L581[18:48:20] <Deddly> REZDAWG, throttle
up/down should be the up and down buttons
L582[18:49:18] <REZDAWG> yes but i hit x
and nothing happens
L583[18:49:26] <Deddly> Not x. Up :)
L584[18:49:27] <REZDAWG> cant get back
home
L585[18:49:35] <Deddly> Up on the D
pad
L586[18:49:39] <REZDAWG> ok
L587[18:49:48] <REZDAWG> and just
wait
L588[18:50:02] <Deddly> That should start
your engines
L589[18:50:03] <REZDAWG> it should mouve
me towards were i wanted it too go
L590[18:50:07] <REZDAWG> ok
L591[18:50:22] <Deddly> If you're pointing
in the right direction, it will get you where you want to go
:)
L592[18:50:26] <REZDAWG> i know L1 and up
is tlevel
L593[18:50:41] <Deddly> L1 and up is full
throttle, yes
L594[18:50:52] <Althego> this plane is
getting uglier each minute. and not going to fly soon
L595[18:50:56] <REZDAWG> ok ill figure it
out 65 days in space right now
L596[18:50:58] <REZDAWG> lol
L597[18:51:06] <REZDAWG> guy is
starving
L598[18:51:12] <Deddly> REZDAWG, you'll
get there, don't give up
L599[18:51:23] ***
Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause
L600[18:51:34] <Deddly> Kerbals pack
plenty of snaks, he'll be fine
L601[18:51:43] <REZDAWG> thanks yea been
using sandbox for practice
L602[18:52:17] <Deddly> Good idea
L603[18:53:16] <REZDAWG> ohh yea i just
got the game couple days ago and made it too space finely yesterday
night and now got too figure the way home lol
L604[18:53:55] <raptop> Althego: KSP
grossly violates Lear's Law, so it's fine
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L606[18:54:58] <Deddly> REZDAWG, Hey
that's really great, well done!
L607[18:55:06] <REZDAWG> i got in too this
becasue i seen a video on youtube one day and just check it out qA
LIKE HUMM LOOOKS INTERESTING
L608[18:55:14] <REZDAWG> sorry caps
L609[18:55:15] <raptop> :D
L610[18:55:41] * X
wakes up out of his sudden coma. I feel awful, like someone was
hitting me.
L611[18:55:49] <Deddly> REZDAWG, KSP is an
amazing game that can give you years of fun. It can also awaken a
love of space exploration
L612[18:55:51] <Althego> a zomrade?
L613[18:57:33] <Deddly> X, good
morning/afternoon/evening/night
L614[18:57:41] <Althego> x for doubt
:)
L615[18:58:25] *
raptop presses X to doubt
L616[18:58:30] <X> Good ... time period?
Deddly
L617[18:58:44] * X
was doubtfully pressed.
L618[18:58:57] <raptop> good standard
rotation angle of your planet with respect to its star,
Deddly
L619[18:59:09] <Althego> lol
L620[18:59:23] * X
repeats raptor
L621[19:00:21] <Deddly> Heh
L622[19:01:04] <Deddly> I get the feeling
X will be woken from a deep slumber every time a PS4 player comes
asking for advice.
L623[19:02:10] <X> It’s literally the only
reason I still have IRC at this point—to make odd comments when
people say my name.
L624[19:02:30] <Althego> "say my
name!"
L625[19:02:44] <raptop> TETSUO!
L626[19:03:31] <sandbox> my name was said
too ;p
L627[19:03:38] <Althego> hehe
L628[19:04:21] <jazzkutya> X is the new
W
L629[19:04:44] <Deddly> jazzkutya,
Undernet?
L630[19:04:44] <sandbox> I remember there
was a crazy person named "the" once
L631[19:04:51] <jazzkutya> dunno
L632[19:05:04] <Deddly> LOL.
L633[19:05:21] <Deddly> I heard there's
someone who gets pinged every time we talk about museums
L634[19:05:32] *
Deddly waits for it
L635[19:05:57] <sandbox> there's someone
who gets pinged when it's cold weather
L636[19:05:59] <umaxtu> I haven't seen him
on lately
L637[19:06:08] <raptop> Imagine if we
brought up various insects like bees
L638[19:06:13] <umaxtu> museumboi I
mean
L639[19:06:43] <Deddly> museum
L640[19:06:59] <Althego> snow
L641[19:09:24] <REZDAWG> ok im in space i
got my stuff set up and it says burn time what do push too get the
burn going
L642[19:09:35] <REZDAWG> ps4
L643[19:09:47] <Deddly> up
L644[19:09:55] <Deddly> D pad up
L645[19:10:05] <REZDAWG> ok now wait
L646[19:10:26] <Deddly> Wait until you've
burned long enough and there you go :)
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L650[19:28:48] <jazzkutya> a contract
wants an orbit that interferes with the mun. now what?
L651[19:30:39] <Rokker> Deddly:
museum?
L652[19:30:54] <Deddly> \o/
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L654[19:30:55] <Althego> just a satellite
contract?
L655[19:31:09] <Deddly> Just felt like I
was missing you Rokker :)
L656[19:31:18] <Rokker> who wants to play
a game of guess the thingy?
L657[19:31:23] <Althego> you can fulfill
it on the opposite side
L658[19:31:26] <jazzkutya> Althego:
yup
L660[19:31:32] <Rokker> guess the
thingy
L661[19:32:02] <Deddly> Ooh pretty
L662[19:32:17] <jazzkutya> but i can't set
up the node that would give the neccessary new periapsis without
being capture
L663[19:32:36] <Deddly> Rokker, Fuel
nozzle?
L664[19:32:36] <jazzkutya> d
L665[19:32:44] <Rokker> no
L666[19:33:08] <Deddly> Looks like the
inside of some kind of combustion chamber
L667[19:33:12] <Rokker> yes
L668[19:33:16] <Rokker> keep going
L669[19:33:30] <jazzkutya> well let me try
again
L670[19:33:37] <Deddly> Afterburner?
L671[19:33:44] <Rokker> no
L672[19:33:48] <Rokker> it's more
spacey
L673[19:34:11] <Rokker> hint 2
L674[19:34:16] <Deddly> I thought the
little holes behind the bigger holes might be the fuel
atomiser
L676[19:34:38] <Rokker> it's not
airbreathing
L677[19:34:43] <Althego> x-15
L678[19:34:50] <Rokker> well just the
engine
L680[19:35:14] <Deddly> Oh wow,
awesome
L681[19:35:25] <Althego> are those tiny
pipes in the nozzle?
L682[19:35:36] <Rokker> hold on, lemme go
get a pic of the x-15
L683[19:35:47] <Rokker> yes
L685[19:38:07] <Deddly> So I was right
about the atomiser
L686[19:38:40] <Rokker> yes but not for an
afterburner
L687[19:38:46] <Deddly> True
L688[19:38:56] <Deddly> Do you work there,
Rokker?
L690[19:39:00] <Rokker> yes
L691[19:39:14] <Deddly> Such a cool place
to work
L693[19:39:25] <Rokker> yeah I'm on my
break right now
L694[19:39:33] <Althego> that reminds me,
have to check copenhagen suborbitals
L695[19:39:42] <Deddly> You should wear
the space suit for protect you from COVID-19
L696[19:39:47] <Althego> nothing new, but
last video was about fuel injectors
L697[19:40:11] <Deddly> Thanks for sharing
the pics, Rokker
L698[19:40:30] <Althego> or just dont ever
bath and people will avoid you anyway. fight biological hazard with
biological defenses :)
L699[19:41:31] <Deddly> Interesting
theory. Must be tested
L701[19:42:50] <Deddly> V2 engine?
Wow
L702[19:44:04] <Rokker> we have 2, 3 if
you count the one attached to the V-2 we have
L703[19:44:22] <Deddly> That's quite a
treasure
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L707[19:56:15] <Rokker> Deddly: we
actually just added 2 new space artifacts within the last 2
weeks
L709[19:57:07] <Rokker> this
L711[19:58:16] <Deddly> I don't recognise
either of those. What are they?
L712[19:58:27] <Rokker> the second one is
an Aerobee
L713[19:58:35] <Rokker> without the solid
stage
L714[19:58:43] <Rokker> based sounding
rocket
L715[19:59:16] <Deddly> Oooh
L716[19:59:21] <Deddly> Really early
history
L717[19:59:26] <Rokker> the first one is
much more interesting and less well known. It's called the X-17 and
it was a heat shield testbed
L718[19:59:37] <Rokker> it would launch up
to 150 km
L719[19:59:42] <Rokker> with the first
stage
L720[20:00:10] <Rokker> then point upside
down and use the other 2 rockets to propeller itself into the
atmosphere at like 4400 m/s
L722[20:00:15] <Rokker> yes
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L724[20:01:24] <Deddly> Amazing
stuff
L725[20:01:49] <Deddly> Mach 14.5
L726[20:03:46] <jazzkutya> Althego: i
don't understand how could i fulfill it on opposite side. target
orbit is circular a bit inside mun's orbit
L727[20:04:08] <jazzkutya> and 180 degrees
inclination
L728[20:04:09] <Althego> just be with the
satellite where the mun isnt
L729[20:04:36] <Althego> you dont need to
keep it there after the contract is done, which is just 10 seconds
of inactivity
L730[20:05:30] <jazzkutya> but how can i
reaise the periapsis if capture happens before the raised
periapsis.
L731[20:07:34] <jazzkutya> i can get to a
poin on the target orbit
L732[20:08:03] <jazzkutya> but then i
don't know when to stop burning prograde because calculated
periapsis goes haywire due to a calculated capture
L733[20:08:48] <jazzkutya> what would be
the final circularization burn
L734[20:08:54] <jazzkutya>
s/what/that/
L735[20:10:38] <jazzkutya> if i could turn
off prediction of the capture i could do the final burn
L736[20:11:18] <jazzkutya> hoping it will
satisfy the contract too :)
L737[20:12:21] <jazzkutya> in other world,
i can get my Ap on the target orbit but not he Pe
L738[20:12:46] <jazzkutya>
s/world/words/
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L743[20:40:57] <jazzkutya> okay did it by
ignoring the numbert and matching the curve nearby only
L744[20:41:03] <jazzkutya> i hate ignoring
the numbers
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L752[21:31:30] <Mat2ch> uh, I like the
gear pods
L753[21:31:41] <darsie> yeah? :)
L754[21:32:35] <darsie> Unfortunately I
couldn't tend to the plane before the rocket reached orbit.
L755[21:32:56] <darsie> Hmm, maybe I
could, by driving Ap further away.
L756[21:33:12] <Mat2ch> there's a mod for
that. ;)
L757[21:33:27] <darsie> Does it fly
automatically?
L758[21:34:30] <Mat2ch> Nope, but creates
a save game when you stage and then you can fly both missions
L759[21:34:58] <darsie> Interesting.
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L763[22:20:50] <darsie> I can't trim my
airplane.
L764[22:48:31] <Alanonzander> then you
need better scissors
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L768[23:06:56] <raptop> Despite the
labeling, cutting off the trim tabs is not recommended
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L772[23:09:48] <darsie> Sailing, out of
fuel.
L773[23:10:02] <darsie> Hence the island
airport.
L774[23:10:37] <raptop> Cargo bay
airbrake?
L775[23:11:07] *
raptop is also unclear on where the intake is
L776[23:11:21] <darsie> nope, stall
airbrake. But that hear is so high, it thinks it's inside the cargo
bay, so I havo to open it to lower the gear.
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L778[23:11:37] <darsie> It's the inline
intake.
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L781[23:12:22] <darsie> Odd thing. Comes
with fuel, too.
L782[23:15:40] <raptop> ah
L783[23:18:21] <flayer> nice, an 'expand
station' contract
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