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L20[03:45:32] <flayer> sending a mission to
jool...
L21[03:46:03] <flayer> mostly just a
commsat array, because i haven't unlocked the biggest comms yet
lol
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L37[05:42:25] <Althego> ah found 2 falt
earth. nice
L38[06:00:04] <flayer> haha, i needed
another control point for this rover/lander and i put a stayputnik
on it XD
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L40[06:01:04] <Althego> what is the problem
with it. has a nice shiny surface
L41[06:01:58] <Althego> i wish there were
more shiny surfaces. matbe windows and such
L43[06:03:01] <flayer> I'm calling it the
"AI Eye"
L44[06:03:28] <Althego> hehe
L45[06:03:37] <Althego> i would have used
asmall docking port
L46[06:03:45] <Althego> and how come it is
not shiny fot you?
L47[06:05:22] <flayer> it is kind of
shiny
L48[06:07:46] <Althego> it is kind of matte
(is that the word?)
L49[06:07:58] <Althego> it is really shiny
for me
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L56[07:52:08] <Althego> oh no, ollie and
papers please. and i havent finished the first flat earth video
yet
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L60[08:49:53] <Althego> hmm a 9th
flight
L61[09:18:24] <Mat2ch> oh, nice, I can
watch a launch live
L63[09:22:09] <Althego> but this says 6 am
eastern, isnt it noon?
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L65[09:40:20] <Mat2ch> 20 minutes
L66[09:40:22] <Mat2ch> so no
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L69[09:46:00] <Althego> stream on
L70[10:00:30] <Althego> 1 minute
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L72[10:08:30] <Althego> the plasma in the
night
L73[10:09:57] <Althego> lol
L74[10:10:00] <Althego> it missed the
ship
L75[10:10:12] <Althego> but it landed just
fine
L76[10:10:27] <Althego> i didnt see it in
the camnera
L77[10:10:34] <Althego> and it hit zero
altitude
L78[10:10:37] <Althego> they say it
landed
L79[10:11:19] <Mat2ch> Althego: there's the
shot
L80[10:11:24] <Althego> yes
L81[10:11:32] <Mat2ch> the picture just got
stuck
L82[10:11:32] <Althego> maybe the ship
video was a bit delayed
L83[10:16:17] <Althego> ula head said that
reuse is not practical below 10. well they are at 9 now
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L85[10:22:30] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L86[10:22:45] <Mat2ch> And the head has
just his bottom hitting the ground.
L87[10:23:15] <Mat2ch> reuse of complex
machineries is always practical
L88[10:23:35] <Althego> not if maintenance
cost too much between flights
L89[10:23:43] <Althego> like space
shuttle
L90[10:24:15] <Mat2ch> The Space Shuttle
had some major issues
L91[10:24:32] <Althego> it never flew the
missions it was deisgned for
L92[10:24:48] <Mat2ch> yeah
L93[10:24:58] <Mat2ch> too many cooks
L94[10:47:35] <Althego> oh i get the time
discrepancy. did they have daylight saving already?
L95[10:48:06] <Althego> yes they did, just
today
L96[10:48:25] <Althego> and i really really
hope there will be no daylight saving this year, as planned
L97[10:49:17] <Mat2ch> uh
L98[10:49:19] <Mat2ch> what?
L99[10:49:40] <Althego> wasnt it supposed
to stop in 2021?
L100[10:49:40] <Mat2ch> Some states in the
US are planning to switch to permanent daylight saving time. (which
is dumb, but, well...)
L101[10:49:46] <Althego> in eu
L102[10:49:48] <Mat2ch> and in the EU?
Nah
L103[10:49:56] <Mat2ch> They couldn't get
to an agreement
L104[10:50:04] <Althego> lol
L105[10:50:24] <Althego> we cant even do
something that requires no action. no action is dont do dst
L106[10:51:09] <Mat2ch> they voted that
every state should be able to select if they want dst or not, but
then they would all have to come to an agreement to not create more
weirdness.
L107[10:51:36] <Mat2ch> and the northern
countries would never go to permanent dst, so...
L108[10:52:11] <Mat2ch> but let's not get
into politics here. I need some ideas for lunch.
L109[10:52:21] <Althego> !lunch
L110[10:52:21] <Mat2ch> or it will be
pasta.
L111[10:52:26] <Althego> or what ws
it
L112[10:52:28] <Althego> .lunch
L113[10:52:31] <Althego> eh
L114[10:52:33] <Mat2ch> !launch
L115[10:52:38] <Mat2ch> Bot is
deeeeeed
L116[10:52:46] <Althego> lunchbot is not
mine
L117[10:52:48] <Mat2ch> !mission
L118[10:52:55] <Mat2ch> mission bot is
dead, too.
L119[10:54:35] <UmbralRaptop> The bot died
in a fire. Yes, that one
L120[10:54:51] <Althego> the datacenter
fire?
L121[10:55:24] <Althego> i wonder if the
missions were lost a second and final time now
L122[10:55:44] <UmbralRaptop> yeah, that
fire
L123[10:56:45] <Althego> cloud is somebody
else's problem? not really
L124[11:02:38] <Althego> deployment coming
up in a few minutes
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L128[11:40:32] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop: It
lives in the cloud now.
L129[11:40:42] <Mat2ch> And will always be
in our hearts.
L131[11:45:08] <Althego> why are these so
different
L132[11:46:34] <Althego> hmm, i wonder,
are the orange suit kerbal names different in localizations?
L133[12:24:20] <Mat2ch> I don't know why
the names are different. But it blew my mind, when I first learnt
about it.
L134[12:24:31] <Mat2ch> I always thought
they would be named the same
L135[12:24:32] <Mat2ch> crazy stuff
L136[12:25:27] <Althego> so how are they
called actually?
L137[12:28:44] <Mat2ch> Huey, Dewey and
Louie
L138[12:29:34] <Althego> i didnt
know
L139[12:31:19] <Mat2ch> yeah, totally
weird.
L140[12:31:44] <Mat2ch> The translation is
from a time, where the local stuff was much more important. Today
this probably wouldn't happen anymore
L141[12:31:55] <Mat2ch> well, back then
not almost everyone spoke English, so...
L142[12:32:02] <Althego> but these names
seem to be meaningless
L143[12:32:46] <Althego> that has not
changed. at least here more than half doesnt speak any other
language
L144[12:33:28] <Mat2ch> I guess Tick,
Trick and Track were easier to say than Huey, Dewey and Louie,
because how do you spell "Huey" if you never learnt any
english?
L145[12:37:02] <darsie> 1337
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L147[12:38:37] <darsie> In German the rich
duck is Dagobert Duck.
L148[12:38:45] <Althego> here too
L149[12:40:41] <darsie> Mat2ch: You could
spell it Huey an it might be "mispronounced", just like
we mispronounced Duck.
L150[12:41:06] <darsie> with u as in
Uhura.
L151[12:41:13] <darsie> Or Ubuntu.
L152[12:41:50] <darsie> U-Boot
L153[12:45:16] <flayer> excellent, my
serve-supported twitch engine RCS works well! i use it to orient
for docking, slow down, and raise the front of the craft to lift
off
L154[12:45:20] <flayer> servo*
L155[12:45:46] <Althego> i never thought
of this
L156[12:45:57] <Althego> actually good
idea. hard to lift off with space planes without air
L157[12:46:03] <flayer> yeah
L158[12:46:30] <Althego> no, moving the
aft wheels closer to the com is not a solution, then it would bump
the tail into the ground
L159[12:46:49] <flayer> and if i can use
it to successfully gain sufficient speed for orbit on laythe, i'll
be in heaven entirely
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L162[12:50:49] <Althego> "cursed food
is literally instant noodles and milk and chocolate mixed
together". just who eats that... not even a zombie
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L165[12:53:38] <Mat2ch> well
L166[12:53:46] <Mat2ch> there are some
other odd things humans eat
L167[12:53:49] <Mat2ch> this is not the
worst
L168[12:55:14] *
darsie regularly eats muesli with ground chia+flax seeds, tomato
puree, multivitamin juice, soy milk.
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L170[12:56:41] <Mat2ch> that
L171[12:56:45] <Mat2ch> I have no words
for that
L172[12:56:48] <Althego> hehe
L173[12:56:52] <darsie> :)
L174[12:57:23] <Althego> sound like what a
college student would eat from what they could find in the
fridge
L175[12:58:04] <Mat2ch> soy milk and chia
seeds are too expensive for students...
L176[12:58:14] <Althego> can be, but it is
all random
L177[12:58:27] <darsie> It evolved that
way.
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L179[12:58:54] <flayer> aww, just short of
orbit
L180[12:59:06] <darsie> How much dv
missing?
L181[12:59:14] <Althego> i'm not crazy i
just evolved this way :)
L182[12:59:22] <flayer> not sure, a few
hundred would do it, i think
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L184[12:59:36] <flayer> i might be able to
achieve orbit if i land somewhere that i can refuel and if i am low
on snacks
L185[13:00:05] <darsie> Ok, I guess that's
too much to just get it by flying better.
L186[13:00:42] <flayer> i'm going 1500m/s
and got an apoapsis of 50km
L187[13:00:45] <flayer> on laythe
L188[13:00:50] <darsie> Unless you were
flying really bad.
L189[13:00:59] <flayer> There is that
possibility.
L190[13:01:08] <flayer> it is sufficient
for me at any rate
L191[13:01:18] <flayer> if i really want
to, i can get to orbit, i think
L192[13:01:27] <darsie> Fly shallow.
L193[13:01:31] <flayer> just gotta dock
while in a suborbital trajectory
L194[13:01:51] <flayer> the ship was never
meant to do this anyway
L195[13:01:55] <flayer> i'm just surprised
that it can XD
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L197[13:02:23] <darsie> You could get out
and jetpack the rest to orbit.
L198[13:02:40] <darsie> rest?
L199[13:08:28] <flayer> i have an ore to
fuel converter and drill on board, but i couldn't refuel. i was
missing about 500 liquid fuel
L200[13:08:59] <flayer> if I dump the
monopropellant and snacks, along with the removal of RCS thrusters
(which I no longer need), I might be able to manage it
L201[13:10:48] <flayer> *replaces some
manual struts with auto struts
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L203[13:13:46] <flayer> i fired up the
atomic engines too early as well, i should climb to at least 10000
meters before activating them
L204[13:14:54] <flayer> it'd probably be
better to burn oxidizer if i need a ground level boost
L205[13:15:11] <flayer> this is totally
doable
L206[13:15:25] <darsie> A higher Ap may
give you enough time for low thrust engines.
L207[13:16:04] <flayer> indeed
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L232[18:57:55] <lucas> hello?
L233[18:59:15] <Althego> hi
L234[19:03:46] <Mat2ch> hello
L235[19:07:06] <JVFoxy> heyos
L236[19:09:51] <Althego> hello darkness my
old friend
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L240[19:27:11] <flayer> wait
L241[19:27:16] <flayer> gravity assists
steal energy from the planet?!
L242[19:27:33] <flayer> earth is going to
slow down to halt in no time!
L243[19:27:33] <raptop> In real life yes,
in KSP no
L244[19:27:51] <Althego> hehe i knew
it
L245[19:27:54] <flayer> we must form an
activist group to prevent this
L246[19:28:00] <Althego> quit without
saying anuthing
L247[19:28:11] <flayer> orbital
protectors
L248[19:28:32] <Althego> there is a
planetary protection officer for each mission
L249[19:28:39] <Althego> but not because
of orbits
L250[19:29:03] <Althego> in reality the
probe is so small the energy taken is insignificant, probably
random asteroids do as much over time
L251[19:29:14] <Althego> and of course in
ksp the planets are on rails
L252[19:31:24] <Althego> i wonder how the
mars sample return is going to happen. best is to hit the ppo
directly during descent maybe?
L253[19:31:41] <Althego> or by that time
maybe it could arrive to the mun
L254[19:32:05] <Althego> even if something
in it, not many people are endangered there
L255[19:47:22] <flayer> they probably
already know the 4 square kilometer in the desert in which it will
land
L256[19:47:58] <flayer> and the exact
100th of a second when it will be there
L257[19:48:07] <flayer> for each of the 40
scenarios they have
L258[19:50:56] <Althego> there is no
mission planned to even collect the stuff yet
L259[19:51:19] <Althego> so they
absolutely dont know what, how and when it is going to happen
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L261[20:18:33] <JVFoxy> oh wanted to ask..
anyone use that exchange site for sharing craft builds?
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L265[20:56:08] <flayer> wow.. manueverable
forward thrusters is really key to easy life in ksp
L266[20:56:22] <flayer> when it comes to
docking
L267[20:56:50] <flayer> finally i have a
use for the puffs
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L270[21:08:17] <JVFoxy> oof
L271[21:08:28] <JVFoxy> coming in a bit
hot at times are ya?
L272[21:13:37] <flayer> its just so much
more convenient
L273[21:13:50] <flayer> don't have to
struggle with the feeble rcs thrusters
L274[21:14:04] <flayer> don't have to flip
the ship
L275[21:29:41] <JVFoxy> long as you have
the fuel to spare...
L276[21:29:58] <JVFoxy> uh so.. what can I
do with nearly 3k in DV from KSP orbit..
L277[21:30:37] <JVFoxy> was trying to
figure out a design for my next set of missions. I might have
overdone it a little with too big a tank on the service
section
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L282[22:56:20] <darsie> flayer: I getting
along well with the quads or the vernier for larger ships.
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L284[22:58:45] <darsie> Docking with just
the main engine is fiddly, but possible, too. Also, RCS on just one
ship is enough.
L285[22:59:23] <darsie> I have verniers on
my orbital fuel station, so my cruisers can save some mass.
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