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L1[00:03:58] <FLHerne> ;mission You design
and build a rotating-detonation engine.
L2[00:03:58] <LunchBot> FLHerne: No mission
found matching "You design and build a rotating-detonation
engine.".
L3[00:04:06] <FLHerne> ;mission add You
design and build a rotating-detonation engine.
L4[00:04:06] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
mission: You design and build a rotating-detonation engine.
L5[00:04:21] <FLHerne> (seriously, those
things are a neat idea)
L6[00:04:46] <raptop> boom
L8[00:05:36] <FLHerne> Basically, combustion
is more efficient if you can create a continuous rolling
detonation
L9[00:06:13] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Scott
Manley explains the resulting events in great detail.
L10[00:06:14] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
outcome: Scott Manley explains the resulting events in great
detail.
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L67[09:22:38] <Mat2ch> !mission
L68[09:22:38] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You hatch
an evil plot to steal some important hardware from Mission Control,
for the evulz! The floating point errors result in floating
kerbals.
L69[09:35:49] <Mat2ch> !mission
L70[09:35:50] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: The
Kratholic Pope Jebediah I holds mass for the worship of Kraken.
KwirkyJ removes the entry about KwirkyJ removing the meta entries.
Meta-ception.
L71[09:36:02] <Mat2ch> !mission
L72[09:36:02] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You give
the MechJeb pod the evil eye to try to make it stop staring at you.
Oh well, these things happen.
L73[09:36:11] <Mat2ch> !mission
L74[09:36:11] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You
readjust Eve's mountains' angle of repose. This results in you
creating a new OS, KUNIX, which becomes insanely popular and shapes
the history of computing.
L75[09:36:29] <Mat2ch> !mission
L76[09:36:29] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You have
more of a comment than a question. Again.
L77[09:36:40] <Mat2ch> Ok, that fits.
:D
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L84[11:22:21] <packbart> the MechJeb pod
has been retired and deprecated. I liked its eye, though :)
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L86[11:59:26] <JVFoxy> i sees.. or rather
it saw it all
L87[11:59:44] <JVFoxy> i.. the.. no 'it'
sees all. >.>
L88[11:59:57] <JVFoxy> coffee can't come
soon enough
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L107[17:26:24] <sheeep> hey hey, need to
ask sth about the delta v map...
L108[17:27:50] <Althego> yes?
L109[17:28:37] <sheeep> the 3400 delta v
to a 80km kerbin orbit. is that delta v measured in vacuum or
atmosphere !?
L110[17:28:49] <Althego> yes
L111[17:28:57] <Althego> if you set the
delta v tool in the vab to vacuum
L112[17:29:25] <sheeep> i see. so always
in vacuum... the whole map
L113[17:29:26] <Althego> obviously you
have to use engines in the lower atmosphere that work there
L114[17:30:08] <sheeep> i do a challenge
on my own to get to orbit with 3400 deltaV^^
L115[17:30:10] <Althego> yes, because with
bodies with atmosphere it would make it hard to calculate, the
atmosphere, your launch profile, launch altitude would cause
differences
L116[17:30:22] <Althego> you can make
better than that
L117[17:30:25] <Althego> make it
3000
L118[17:30:30] <Althego> if you have high
enough twr
L119[17:30:40] <Althego> you can do a
shallower, mre efficient ascent
L120[17:30:57] <Althego> the 3400 is a
realistic value, but not the best you can do
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L122[17:31:08] <sheeep> hmm
L123[17:31:32] <Althego> high twr and heat
resistance :)
L124[17:31:35] <sheeep> but means a flat
ascent more drag?
L125[17:31:44] <Althego> less gravity
loss
L126[17:32:06] <Althego> obviously you
have to keep the two balanced
L127[17:32:18] <Althego> but high twr in
general means you are betetr off
L128[17:32:25] <Althego> so if you start
say with 2
L129[17:32:36] <Althego> instead of a more
usual 1.2 or 1.3
L130[17:32:53] <Althego> while you are
going up, full 1 g is subtracted from taht
L131[17:32:59] <Althego> which causes less
delta v
L132[17:33:41] <sheeep> ill try and let
you know^^
L133[17:33:47] <darsie> If there's no
atmosphere I ascend as shallow as possible.
L134[17:35:00] <darsie> Unless it's Gilly
:).
L135[17:35:12] <Althego> there you just do
whatever
L136[17:35:16] <sheeep> yea but ill try an
kerbin orbit
L137[17:35:17] <Althego> you need rcs to
land :)
L138[17:35:23] <sheeep> as less as
possible
L139[17:37:20] <darsie> On Kerbin you
usually overheat if you fly too shallow, so I tend to fly so
shallow that I just don't overheat. Or a bit steeper.
L140[17:38:31] <Althego> use the landing
gear on the nose trick :)
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L142[17:39:21] <darsie> Haven't heard of
that before. Going too shallow is suboptimal, too, though, due to
drag.
L143[17:39:39] <Althego> there is a
specific landing gear that has the highest heat tolerance in the
game
L144[17:39:48] <Althego> that can soak in
all the heat on the nose
L145[17:40:17] <darsie> Maybe that's
useful for Eve entry.
L146[17:40:29] <Althego> or specific
challenges
L147[17:40:52] <darsie> Taking a surface
sample of Jool ;).
L149[17:41:34] <Althego> 2700 K
L150[17:42:52] <darsie> mhm. LY-99,
too.
L151[17:43:44] <FLHerne> ;mission add You
are tasked with obtaining a surface sample from Jool.
L152[17:43:44] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
mission: You are tasked with obtaining a surface sample from
Jool.
L153[17:45:04] <FLHerne> ;mission fixup
s/tasked with obtaining/accept a contract to obtain/
L154[17:45:04] <LunchBot> FLHerne: New
text is: You are accept a contract to obtain a surface sample from
Jool.
L155[17:45:18] <FLHerne> ;mission fixup
s/are //
L156[17:45:18] <LunchBot> FLHerne: New
text is: You accept a contract to obtain a surface sample from
Jool.
L157[17:45:19] <Althego> you accept
L158[17:45:20] <FLHerne> bleh
L159[17:45:23] <Althego> hehe
L160[17:45:43] <Althego> i dont fix my
typos, unless they can be misunderstood for something else
L161[17:45:56] <Althego> exactly because
of this. a fix would still have a typo
L162[17:48:26] <Althego> lol youtube. -2
dislikes
L163[17:48:31] <Althego> -2
L164[17:48:35] <Althego> how is that even
possible
L165[17:48:43] <Althego> overflow?
L166[17:49:06] <darsie> :)
L167[17:50:10] <Althego> also
L168[17:50:13] <Althego> *wenhop
L169[17:50:16] <Althego> #wenhop
L172[18:03:43] <Althego> it seems the sls
t est failure was bigger thanthey thought
L173[18:03:48] <Althego> another
delay
L174[18:03:57] <Althego> this makes it
hard for the europa clipper to launch on sls
L175[18:04:18] <Althego> although congress
forced nasa to launch it on sls. but even they cant change the law
of physics
L176[18:06:15] <sheeep> hmm got a orbit
with about 3100dV.. but rocket is too big
L177[18:06:31] <sheeep> ty darsie
L178[18:06:44] <darsie> I reached orbit
with 539 m/s left in that rocket.
L179[18:07:18] <Althego> if you have
smaller fuel tanks but same engines you can even go lower than 3100
then
L180[18:07:43] <darsie> I reached orbit
<3000 m/s (vacuum dv).
L181[18:13:29] *
raptop inserts a generic rant about how vac Δv is not quite the
same as actually expended Δv
L182[18:20:29] <darsie> I flew even
shallower, the Pe was behind the next peninsula and I had only 531
m/s left.
L183[18:21:09] <raptop> whelp
L184[18:21:14] <darsie> For a lower drag
rocket this might be better, though.
L186[18:39:18] <darsie> Graming collided
with Jerdo's crew cabin and exploded.
L187[18:39:37] <darsie> She aimed for
it.
L188[18:39:59] <Althego> hehe
L189[18:42:14] <darsie> At 111 m/s, IIRC.
If the speed had been higher, she might have tunneled through
it.
L190[18:49:15] <sheeep> darsie with your
rocket model.. 3400dV but not perfect
L191[18:50:07] <darsie> sheeep: ok. How
high is your orbit?
L192[18:54:22] <darsie> I usually go for
70-71 km orbit.
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L194[18:58:06] <Althego> Ride and fly
high, high, high, high
L195[18:58:06] <Althego> Very very high,
in the sky!
L196[19:09:24] <sheeep> 75
L197[19:09:27] <sheeep> km
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L201[19:34:51] <Althego> by the looks i
can really believe it took 4 months
L202[19:41:54] <Althego> oh a what about
it
L203[19:42:19] <Althego> and there was an
our ludicrous future too hours ago, i have to watch that
tomorrow
L204[19:52:36] <sheeep> engine-porn
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L207[20:34:45] <Althego> !road
L208[20:34:49] <Kerbot> Althego =>
Primary; Monday, February 22, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.;
Scheduled | Primary; Tuesday, February 23, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00
p.m.; Scheduled | Secondary; Wednesday, February 24, 2021; 9:00
a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Canceled | Secondary; Thursday, February 25,
2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Primary; Friday, February
26, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Canceled | Secondary; Monday,
March 1, 2021; 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Schedu
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L210[20:38:55] <TristenKSP> Howdy
L211[20:39:36] <TristenKSP> I'm gonna make
a scale model of the Kerbol System.
L212[20:41:08] <Althego> 3d
printing?
L213[20:42:38] <TristenKSP> Nope, physical
model,
L214[20:43:14] <darsie> How large?
L215[20:43:43] <TristenKSP> I'm not sure
yet.
L216[20:43:45] <darsie> What's the
smallest body you'll model?
L217[20:43:54] <TristenKSP> I want Gilly
to be in it.
L218[20:43:58] <darsie> ok
L219[20:43:59] <TristenKSP> All major
bodies.
L220[20:44:54] <Althego> but then you dont
want it to be to scale
L221[20:44:57] <darsie> Well, you could
pick a size for Gilly and see if it's too large, or vice
versa.
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L223[20:48:17] <TristenKSP> The smallest
moons might be too small. Considering if 10km = 1mm, then Kerbol
has a diameter of 532 meters...
L224[20:49:51] <Althego> hehehe
L225[20:50:11] <Althego> that is why i
said in general nobody makes scale models
L226[20:50:15] <Althego> for
solarsystems
L227[20:50:25] <Althego> because the
plaents are simply too small
L228[20:50:27] <darsie> People do along
hiking trails.
L229[20:50:35] <TristenKSP> Hmmm
L230[20:50:47] <darsie> And yeah, some
bodies are very small, then. Or missing.
L231[20:50:51] <TristenKSP> I could do it
the same way I make NORMAL solar system models.
L232[20:50:52] <Althego> yes, with mere cm
size balls you need to be like hundreds of meters away
L233[20:51:18] <TristenKSP> Earth is about
8mm in diameter with our system's models.
L234[20:52:02] <TristenKSP> I should make
it so 100km = 1mm
L235[20:56:36] <darsie> If you make Gilly
0.1 mm (just visible), then Eloos Ap is 869 m.
L236[20:56:51] <Althego> some single
celled organisms are bigger than that :)
L237[20:57:48] <darsie> I have 0.08 mm
wire (plus enamel). It's very visible. An 0.1 mm sphere is
different, though.
L239[20:58:37] <TristenKSP> However, Gilly
isn't a sphere.
L240[20:58:41] <TristenKSP> It's
lumpy.
L241[20:58:51] <darsie> The diameter of
human hair varies from 0.017 to 0.18 millimeters
L242[20:59:14] <darsie> Fine, an 0.1 mm
lump, then.
L243[21:00:23] <darsie> I have a
microscope. I could estimate the diameter of small sand
grains.
L245[21:05:49] <TristenKSP> I'm using
Diameter, Star/Planet Semi-Major Axis, Atmosphere Height (If there
is an atmosphere), and Sphere of Influence.
L246[21:06:31] <darsie> You're gonna model
the atmosphere, too?
L247[21:06:40] <TristenKSP> Most
likely.
L248[21:06:51] <TristenKSP> I might use
transparent sheets of paper.
L249[21:07:01] <darsie> Or transparent
lacquer.
L250[21:07:11] <TristenKSP> What's
lacquer?
L251[21:07:28] <darsie> The term lacquer
is used for a number of hard and potentially shiny finishes applied
to materials such as wood or metal.
L252[21:07:35] <TristenKSP> Oh
L254[21:10:44] <Althego> you can make
lacquer really thin, and it still remains hard, so actually a good
idea
L255[21:10:57] <Althego> oh no
wintergatan
L256[21:11:06] <Althego> i wanted to sleep
like 40 minutes ago
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L258[21:18:26] <Althego> oh no
L259[21:18:31] <Althego> excellent marble
gate
L260[21:18:51] <Althego> but, he is
already thinking about a new one. looks like a clock
escapement
L261[21:18:57] <TristenKSP> Do I need a
permit or to be a certain age to use lacquer
L262[21:19:27] <Althego> you do need a
permit to visit the prison colony in the ross 128 system :)
L263[21:20:14] <TristenKSP> what
L264[21:20:21] <Althego> (in elite
2)
L265[21:20:31] <darsie> TristenKSP: How
old are you?
L266[21:20:36] <Althego> also for yz canis
minoris
L267[21:20:42] <Althego> and i dont
remember the 3rd one
L268[21:20:51] <TristenKSP> Turning 13 on
March 15th this year.
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L270[21:21:39] <darsie> I guess there are
many different kinds.
L271[21:22:06] <TristenKSP> Is it
non-toxic?
L272[21:22:21] <darsie> They are probably
more or less toxic.
L273[21:22:33] <TristenKSP> That might not
work then
L274[21:23:48] <darsie> Did you pay the
KSP DLCs yourself?
L275[21:23:54] <TristenKSP> Yes
L276[21:24:21] <TristenKSP> gtg
L277[21:24:26] <darsie> bye
L278[21:24:30] <TristenKSP> bye
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L280[21:24:48] <umaxtu> kids these
days
L281[21:24:54] *
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