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L1[00:00:08] <darsie> Maybe I'll do that tomorrow.
L2[00:00:12] <darsie> "tomorrow"
L3[00:00:50] <darsie> Guess I'll see how long it takes me to make orbit, then launch at a suitable time/phase.
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L5[00:05:20] <JVFoxy> just be aware of how long it takes to launch into orbit. Sometimes it'll help to get your target into a slightly higher orbit from 70km so you can go below, catch up if you don't quite make it exactly
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L12[00:28:00] <JVFoxy> anyways.. gotta run
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L45[01:43:44] <TristenKSP> e
L46[01:49:17] <raptop> え
L47[01:52:36] <TristenKSP> e but anime
L48[01:55:25] <TristenKSP> r/minecraft_hmmmmm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRidQ88QLQ
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L50[01:58:34] <TristenKSP> I think I made that person leave
L51[02:07:32] <raptop> Nah, looks like a connection issue
L52[02:12:48] * raptop grumbles about how whenever I run across some space-related scicomm/outreach video, I have to convert the speeds into m/s or fractions of c to actually understand them <_<
L53[02:21:21] <TristenKSP> how do you do the star thing h
L54[02:24:42] <raptop> type "/me action"
L55[02:24:44] <raptop> eg:
L56[02:24:47] * raptop action
L57[02:25:57] * TristenKSP has done it
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L59[02:27:27] <raptop> yay
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L77[06:52:53] <Althego> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1363600651712794624
L78[06:55:41] * flayer tackles Althego
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L82[07:21:10] <flayer> i dont understand the point of workshops in surviving mars
L83[07:21:24] <Althego> there is a stat they increase
L84[07:21:30] <Althego> in people
L85[07:21:46] <Althego> since i dont build them, that stat is somewhat low for me most of the time
L86[07:22:11] <Althego> i just build them at some point to get the achievement
L87[07:22:27] <Althego> or whatever it is that needs some percentag of people in workshops
L88[07:22:34] <Althego> but they take up space
L89[07:22:46] <Althego> and consume materials
L90[07:23:57] <Althego> https://survivingmars.paradoxwikis.com/Dome_buildings#Dome_Services
L91[07:24:02] <Althego> they give morale
L92[07:24:10] <Althego> and not achievement but milestone
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L100[08:40:09] * funny raptop
L101[08:40:09] <funny> Hi
L102[08:40:11] <Mod9000> Hello, funny
L103[08:40:50] <funny> Mod9000, hewwo
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L107[08:41:02] <funny> Hi UmbralRaptop
L108[08:41:54] <theCAVE> *awkward silence*
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L110[08:42:38] <Althego> hehe
L111[08:42:55] <theCAVE> umbral had a short and pure life
L112[08:43:04] <theCAVE> like many of my kerbals
L113[08:43:07] <funny> Hi
L114[08:43:09] <Mod9000> Hello, funny
L115[08:43:33] <UmbralRaptor> wait, I'm pure?
L116[08:43:39] <theCAVE> haha
L117[08:44:03] <theCAVE> didnt u just leave?
L118[08:44:34] <theCAVE> ohhhh
L119[08:44:38] <theCAVE> other umbral
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L121[08:44:56] <UmbralRaptor> connection glitch
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L126[10:12:54] <Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1363443295297404933/photo/1
L127[10:13:01] <Mat2ch> they really redid the whole landing pad
L128[10:13:32] <Mat2ch> and I have the save question. Usually it's 28 days until cured enough to take load
L129[10:15:00] <Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/StarshipPad the landing pad has its own twitter account...
L130[10:16:02] <ibuprofen> hey UmbralRaptor hows the heat treating you
L131[10:18:06] <hmw[at]> Waaahpor in fuel lines argh
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L133[10:50:04] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: They waited less than a week between patching a section and dropping SN9 on it
L134[10:50:23] <Mat2ch> then they like to redo the landing pad often.
L135[11:08:03] <hmw[at]> Real Fuels: I set the tank to "Fuselage", removed, re-added the fuel. As soon as I go to the launch pad, it says "Pressure fed false" on the engine. What am I missing?
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L137[11:19:27] <hmw[at]> I start to think it is a bug
L138[11:20:14] <Althego> lol even more people are trying the gorilla glue
L139[11:23:38] <Althego> reminds me of the tide pod challenge
L140[11:30:06] <Althego> advantures of moustache tim and monitor steve in hardware unavailable
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L142[11:53:46] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYQwuYZbA6o in a bit more than 7 hours
L143[12:26:05] <Althego> hehe tech ingredients about rocket ignition
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L148[12:45:53] <Mxi_steel> Hi! How can i prevent bon voyage from going not enough fuel?
L149[12:46:30] <flayer> add more fuel
L150[12:46:52] <Mat2ch> is bon voyage a tutorial ship?
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L152[12:47:00] <Althego> i couldnt parse that sentence
L153[12:47:04] <Althego> eh
L154[12:47:35] <Mat2ch> I'm trying to figure out what "bon voyage" stands for in this context.
L155[12:49:10] <Althego> ah it is a mod
L156[12:49:49] <hmw[at]> flayer: Who would have guessed...
L157[12:50:24] <flayer> just answering the question mate
L158[12:51:13] <hmw[at]> I do understand :)
L159[12:51:37] <hmw[at]> I give a lot of support in web related channels, so I really do
L160[12:55:31] <hmw[at]> Pff. My custom RSS setup is giving me hell. I found a workaround for that engine issue, but it still won't see the pressure tank above it.
L161[12:55:53] <hmw[at]> Maybe my combination of mods is just bad or missing something important
L162[12:56:12] <hmw[at]> Rocked wobbles like it was made of rubber
L163[12:56:20] <hmw[at]> rocket*
L164[12:56:41] <flayer> happens with multiple SAS units
L165[12:57:07] <flayer> or not enough struts (i recommend using advanced tweakables to add invisible struts)
L166[12:57:10] <hmw[at]> I only have one capsule with SAS :)
L167[12:57:32] <hmw[at]> I remember seeing a reinforced something mod, that I don't have atm
L168[12:58:00] <hmw[at]> (Trying to remove as many mods as possible from the recommended RO setup. My computer is a potato and I need to save RAM)
L169[13:00:50] <hmw[at]> Also, I suck at playing RO. Scott Manley uses a match stick sized rocket to get into orbit, and mine is ... large.
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L174[13:29:23] <Althego> poor death got beaten hard by some girl and dolphin (guilty gear)
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L179[14:03:26] <hmw[at]> When I try to remove Real Plumes with CKAN, it also wants to remove a lot of other mods. Can I prevent this?
L180[14:10:02] <Althego> dependency hell
L181[14:10:26] <hmw[at]> Removing mods manually breaks CKAN, apparently. Well.
L182[14:10:43] <hmw[at]> Some mod prevents me from disabling shadows
L183[14:12:14] <hmw[at]> Hah! Framerate almoust double now
L184[14:12:52] <hmw[at]> OK. No engine plumes at all lol
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L186[14:13:48] <Althego> and this is why i dont do modding
L187[14:14:50] <Althego> i tried to do only visual mods, but even those had issues. scatterer caused an unaliased horizon that was so ugly i had to give up on it
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L189[14:16:40] <hmw[at]> Yeah. Since Squad sold the game, it went horribly downhill
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L191[14:17:12] <hmw[at]> I really miss the stability updates. There are bugs that haven't been fixed in years. But we got a lot of new parts. Yay.
L192[14:17:30] <Althego> a lot of new parts i always wanted
L193[14:17:33] <hmw[at]> I really want to play RSS
L194[14:19:30] <hmw[at]> I rather have a stable game than one with many parts and constant crashing
L195[14:19:57] <hmw[at]> But stability is a dream from a long gone past anyways
L196[14:19:58] <Althego> doesnt crash for me. but the slow down for scene change after a lot of runtime is annoying
L197[14:21:18] <hmw[at]> It is not so much the game actually crashing (happened to me once since the current attempt of running RO), but all those bugs everywhere. And mods don't help this at all either :)
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L199[14:21:51] <hmw[at]> Remember, when every other update was purely for removing bugs?
L200[14:22:39] <hmw[at]> Well, at least I finally have a playable RO setup. Wanted this for many years.
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L202[15:17:58] <Mat2ch> SF today!
L203[15:18:03] <Mat2ch> But the nerdle cam is down :/
L204[15:19:07] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/user/LabPadre
L205[15:19:08] <Althego> all up
L206[15:19:11] <Althego> the old link is down
L207[15:20:58] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTA0GTgFn5E
L208[15:22:15] <Althego> wait, there is sound now
L209[15:22:16] <Mat2ch> Ah, then the descriptions didn't get updated yet
L210[15:22:35] <Mat2ch> the cams always had sound
L211[15:22:41] <Mat2ch> but not that loud
L212[15:23:18] <Althego> but with this speed the static fire is by tomorrow
L213[15:23:36] <Mat2ch> why?
L214[15:23:50] <Mat2ch> The window just opened
L215[15:24:05] <Althego> they usually take hours
L216[15:24:38] <Althego> ok there was ne time when they were really fast
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L220[16:03:49] <FLHerne> Surface-to-unlimited TFRs for tomorrow through Thursday
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L222[16:16:25] <Althego> you are entering valentina's stupidity
L223[16:16:34] <Althego> (contract site)
L224[16:17:04] <raptop> That's certainly a name
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L227[16:36:23] <Althego> hehe adam play around with spot and a new arm
L228[16:36:33] <Althego> i mean the arm is on spot, not on him
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L230[16:50:58] <hmw[at]> Wow. MechJeb used to be a lot more precise
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L232[16:53:22] <hmw[at]> Shouldn't I see a gizmo in the world view, when I am about 1km next to another ship, that is my target?
L233[16:54:17] <Althego> world view? the map?
L234[16:55:31] <hmw[at]> no the world screen
L235[16:55:42] <Althego> no, nothing
L236[16:56:14] <Althego> or rather it would be nice, and in that s ense you should. but it doesnt work that way currently
L237[16:56:29] <hmw[at]> I am pretty sure, I could see a gizmo with the distance when docking
L238[16:56:52] <hmw[at]> so now the only way to aim is via Navball?
L239[16:57:07] <Althego> i think there is some gui item when it is far away
L240[16:57:10] <Althego> nothing when close
L241[16:57:23] <Althego> which is annoying when i am trying to rescue kerbals in the totel darkness
L242[16:57:31] <hmw[at]> wow I see the ship now. They really removed the gizmo wtf
L243[16:57:36] <Althego> hey i know this thing is here somewhere, very close but i cant see a thing
L244[16:57:46] <umaxtu> when you get close enough the marker disappears. pretty sure you have to be closer then 1km though
L245[16:58:05] <hmw[at]> 750m
L246[16:58:13] <umaxtu> hmmm
L247[17:00:11] <hmw[at]> but before, when the distance was 1500 there was no gizmo either
L248[17:00:38] <hmw[at]> That is, what I complained about them adding parts but not making the program proper first
L249[17:00:42] <umaxtu> I also highly recommend NavyFish's docking port alignment indicator
L250[17:01:04] <umaxtu> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/40423-181-docking-port-alignment-indicator-version-685-updated-121419/
L251[17:01:35] <Althego> i liked the one that put an extra indicator on the navball
L252[17:01:36] <hmw[at]> I have it but it only activates, when you select a docking port. I am not yet there
L253[17:01:56] <Althego> but it was very little action so later i didnt install it
L254[17:01:56] <hmw[at]> MJ is wasting my RCS fuel...
L255[17:01:58] <hmw[at]> wow
L256[17:02:15] <Althego> let it console you that the first few moon landings did that too
L257[17:02:16] <hmw[at]> This is really a lot worse than before
L258[17:02:27] <Althego> the sloshing fuel caused overly active rcs
L259[17:02:53] <hmw[at]> i am now playing plain KSP
L260[17:04:28] <hmw[at]> Gah. KSP will never get fixed
L261[17:04:54] <hmw[at]> have fun. I'll do something else now
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L264[17:17:07] <hmw[at]> F4 toggles "Ship Labels" or "Ship Names", so you get the icon back
L265[17:17:23] <Althego> fantastic
L266[17:17:41] <Althego> i am going to use this
L267[17:19:39] <Althego> 100 minutes until stream start
L268[17:19:44] <Althego> (or a bit more)
L269[17:21:08] <hmw[at]> So, how did one select a docking port? I switch to the other vessel, klick something, switch back, but then?
L270[17:22:09] <hmw[at]> ah ok switching back with the menu open gives you "set as target"
L271[17:23:25] <hmw[at]> Docked!
L272[17:24:06] <umaxtu> yay!
L273[17:26:14] <Althego> docker
L274[17:26:18] <Althego> and kubernetes :)
L275[17:26:40] <umaxtu> docker is cool. haven't found anything I need kubernetes for yet
L276[17:29:58] <Althego> at the moment i never needed any of those
L277[17:32:02] <umaxtu> I have the UniFi controller, netbootxyz and py-kms running in containers on a raspberry pi
L278[17:33:40] <hmw[at]> Weird tho, that MJ is oversteering that much
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L280[17:33:50] <umaxtu> with the rcs?
L281[17:33:52] <hmw[at]> Also, when falling down with open parachutes
L282[17:34:00] <hmw[at]> in this case no RCS
L283[17:34:38] <hmw[at]> I click SVEL- and it _starts_ to wobble, compared to the minor "natrual" oscillation
L284[17:35:07] <hmw[at]> I think I removed everything related to RSS tho.
L285[17:39:41] <Izaya> [sad feed noises]
L286[17:41:56] <raptop> Izaya: we regret to inform you that you have been killed by google
L287[17:42:17] * raptop is still bitter, though these days I have a friend running ttRSS
L288[17:43:52] <Izaya> QuiteRSS stronk
L289[17:44:33] <Izaya> also, on the contrary, many of my RSS feeds are from Google sites
L290[17:44:45] <Izaya> indeed, the only practical way to use Youtube is via RSS feeds and mpv + youtube-dl
L291[17:45:06] <hmw[at]> RSS feed + VLC is nice too
L292[17:45:21] * raptop definitely had to use youtube-dl while I was phone-tethering for everything because 0.3-0.7 Mbps does not make for good streaming
L293[17:45:33] <hmw[at]> heheh
L294[18:17:14] <flayer> 32 km periapsis with 3 m/s dv to spare
L295[18:17:23] <flayer> looks like we're going home, boys!
L296[18:18:23] <raptop> Remember to drink the remaining monoprop for good luck!
L297[18:19:42] <Althego> lol
L298[18:21:17] <Althego> in the game z, the cutscenes show the robots drink rocket fuel as beer
L299[18:24:38] <raptop> hah
L300[18:24:53] <Althego> causes an accident at the end
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L305[18:50:14] <Althego> 10 minutes
L306[18:59:54] <darsie> hold at t-0
L307[19:00:19] <Althego> stream on, no content yet
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L309[19:00:43] * TristenKSP has just realized that KSP2 is gonna cost $60
L310[19:00:52] <Althego> heh
L311[19:01:34] <TristenKSP> it makes sense tho
L312[19:01:57] <TristenKSP> it's gonna have, like, pre-installed shaders and light scattering
L313[19:02:13] <Althego> imagine it could cost half as much id they had developed it only once, not twice :)
L314[19:04:36] <TristenKSP> it's been delayed like 3 times too, hasn't it?
L315[19:04:49] <TristenKSP> it was first for 2020, then 2021, then 2022?
L316[19:06:09] <TristenKSP> KSP2 will also be on PS4, PS5, Xbox One, and Xbox fridge.
L317[19:07:23] <Althego> one minute video
L318[19:07:36] * TristenKSP has photos of the Kerbolar Eclipse at the KSC
L319[19:07:48] <Althego> and they are stalling for time
L320[19:07:55] <TristenKSP> yeah
L321[19:08:21] <TristenKSP> KSP players: "Oh boy! KSP2 is coming out this year!" Squad: "no"
L322[19:08:40] <Althego> squad is not developing it
L323[19:08:51] <Althego> squad is not doing :)
L324[19:09:14] <Althego> they are maintaining the "old" ksp
L325[19:09:28] <TristenKSP> Who's doing KSP2?
L326[19:09:31] <Althego> 30 gigabytes...
L327[19:09:33] <TristenKSP> Private Division?
L328[19:09:48] <raptop> Take2 slowly realizing the scale of what they've promised for KSP2 is interesting
L329[19:10:01] <TristenKSP> yes
L330[19:10:03] <Althego> 75 fps, i didnt know that
L331[19:10:56] <Althego> Developer(s) Intercept Games
L332[19:10:56] <Althego> Publisher(s) Private Division
L333[19:11:08] <TristenKSP> Take2: *promise more things for KSP2* Society: "nooo that's gonna overload the game technology isn't ready yet!" Take2: "how bout i do anyway?"
L334[19:11:17] <Althego> no audio heh
L335[19:11:24] <Althego> i wanted to hear it
L336[19:11:33] <TristenKSP> you've gone deaf
L337[19:11:44] <Althego> or there was not enough air
L338[19:12:23] <TristenKSP> not enough sound hit your eardrums
L339[19:12:44] <TristenKSP> My ears when i sit in a quiet room: silence, silence.
L340[19:12:51] <Althego> in ksp the heat shield would hit you
L341[19:13:49] <TristenKSP> It's doing the opposite of what it's supposed to do
L342[19:14:55] <Althego> so much dust
L343[19:15:02] <Althego> but that upward looking camera was amazing
L344[19:15:17] <Althego> flat earthers will say it is cgi
L345[19:16:22] <Althego> and the parachute inflation in the martian atmosphere. nobody saw tha before
L346[19:16:29] <TristenKSP> UGHH iT's CgI!!!! tHeY aRe LyInG!
L347[19:16:41] <Althego> see gee eye :)
L348[19:16:46] <TristenKSP> me when the
L349[19:17:10] <TristenKSP> You need to set the ejection force to 1000 or else your entire spacecraft is die in KSP
L350[19:17:26] <TristenKSP> with payloads at ejection force 1000, they just vanish
L351[19:19:11] <TristenKSP> Me when my heat shield gets to hot in KSP when entering Eve's atmosphere: PANIK 178%
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L353[19:21:16] <Althego> in ksp it can totally tumble
L354[19:21:36] <Althego> with the inflatable i could get faster and faster rotation
L355[19:26:36] <Althego> martian video
L356[19:27:17] <Althego> there were previous things, like moving dust devils, or clouds, but these were just consecutive images
L357[19:27:54] <Althego> i hope they put out the whole thing
L358[19:28:00] <Althego> i want to watch it some times
L359[19:46:05] <Althego> ah the videos are up already
L360[19:57:12] <Althego> the supercut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czjS9h4Fpg
L361[19:59:33] <raptop> So apparently today is nya/nyanya?
L362[20:07:47] <Althego> i couldnt decode that
L363[20:29:27] <raptop> 2/22
L364[20:32:14] <Althego> next year more twos
L365[20:38:05] <raptop> Apparently it's cat day in Japan becaus of what the date sounds like
L366[20:54:31] <Althego> meanwhile road closed
L367[20:54:54] <Althego> as i said, test is tomorrow. at least in cet
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L369[21:12:10] <darsie> The 3x2 solar panel with heat shield clips into the lid: https://i.ibb.co/VvVFd1H/screenshot337.png
L370[21:32:26] <Mat2ch> Hrm, the road in Boca Chica is closed. But the pad not clear yet. And they only have 2 1/2 hours left. So probably no test today.
L371[21:32:29] <raptop> It's probably fine
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