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L11[01:14:58] <JVFoxy> uhhhh...
L12[01:18:43] <flayer> he's got a good
point
L13[01:24:41] <JVFoxy> or rather
'points'...
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L30[05:42:04] <Althego> finally there is
the scott video
L31[05:42:21] <Althego> it took him so long
i thought he is going to wait until monday
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L38[06:25:06] <Althego> did we learn what
the result of the 3 mm tank test was?
L39[06:25:29] <Althego> or do they intend
to continue with it? since it is still there
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L43[08:21:44] <Althego> finally i am back
from jita. so i can focus on the missions started yesterday
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L45[08:50:29] <Mat2ch> Althego: since they
are still working on SN7.2 and not scraping it, I guess they are
going to do another test
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L49[10:10:50] <Althego> bob came back. i
got the nuke
L50[10:11:01] <Althego> that can be useful
for minmus
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L52[10:20:19] <Mat2ch> Nuke Minmus!
L53[10:20:41] <Althego> have to fit it in
the 180 t limit
L54[10:20:52] <Althego> spent the money on
part upgrades
L55[10:31:15] <minas_tirith> hey
Althego
L56[10:31:21] <minas_tirith> I bought a
guitar pick yesterday
L57[10:32:09] <Althego> and the guitar
comes only later? :)
L58[10:32:48] <minas_tirith> Althego, the
guitar was sitting comfortably at home
L59[10:33:01] <minas_tirith> Its much
easier to play it with a pick vs using old credit cards and so
on
L60[10:33:38] <flayer> i bought some spark
plugs
L61[10:33:56] <flayer> i will buy a piston
next week
L62[10:34:00] <flayer> soon enough i will
have a car
L63[10:34:16] <Althego> hehe, reminds me of
the joke
L64[10:34:24] <Althego> (from socialist
era)
L65[10:35:30] <Althego> uncle joe works in
the fridge factory. his friends ask him: why didnt you try to steal
the parts and assemble it outside? he replies: i tries, but it
somehow always turned out to be a tank
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L72[11:53:26] <JVFoxy> Uh.... kerbals have
to gain experience to get better skills right? Did something break
in 1.11.1?
L73[11:54:06] <Althego> there is something
with the piloting controls
L74[11:55:04] <JVFoxy> .. full suite of SAS
icons for all right?
L75[11:56:00] <JVFoxy> usually you only get
standard hold at no skill.. then the pro and retro on the next...
so on.
L76[11:56:28] <Althego> i just noticed that
non pilot can have them if there was a pilot before in the
cabin
L77[11:58:10] <Althego> heh it is not 180
but 140 t...
L78[11:58:55] <JVFoxy> hmm...
L80[12:00:10] <JVFoxy> FLHerne just reading
on it now. Seems all probes have full SAS suite too. Mythos from
forums: "That's also the only odd thing I noticed so far. All
probe cores have all the SAS modes, even the Stayputnik. Hail the
almighty probe! "
L81[12:05:13] <JVFoxy> so its a 'in
progress', but I guess no work around, just live with it for
now?
L82[12:11:39] <Althego> this never happened
to me
L83[12:12:27] <Althego> neither pilots nor
probes have the full access
L84[12:12:48] <JVFoxy> no idea..
L85[12:12:54] <JVFoxy> I do have older
versions still
L86[12:13:04] <JVFoxy> I started new game
though
L87[12:13:17] <JVFoxy> Althego did you port
saves over from previous games?
L88[12:13:22] <Althego> no
L89[12:13:47] <Althego> or rather they are
there, but never loaded them, since i am finished with the tech
tree there
L90[12:13:52] <JVFoxy> someone said it
happened on and off even in the same game so eh
L91[12:19:08] <JVFoxy> eh well..
L92[12:20:44] <FLHerne> JVFoxy: You can
always just not click the button of temptation :p
L93[12:21:00] <Althego> i usually only care
about pro and retrograde
L94[12:21:17] <JVFoxy> truth be told..
other than hold, retro and prograde.. I don't really use the
others.
L95[12:21:39] <Althego> the target is good
too for long burns
L96[12:21:54] <JVFoxy> target.. sometimes,
when i'm setting up to do docking stuff
L97[12:22:42] <JVFoxy> any other ..
'problems' of 11.1 I should know of before going further or?
L98[12:37:00] <darsie> 1337
L99[12:39:51] <flayer> nice
L100[12:41:18] <Althego> oh there was an
our ludicrous future yesterday
L101[12:44:47] <flayer> our ludicrous
past*
L102[12:45:31] <JVFoxy> time is so
mysterious
L103[12:50:25] <Mat2ch> time just doesn't
exist at all ;)
L104[12:51:36] <darsie> But I have
time.
L105[12:52:35] <Mat2ch> No you are just
not moving. ;)
L106[12:52:49] <Mat2ch> I had a funny
little thought yesterday just before being able to sleep.
L107[12:53:13] <Mat2ch> If there was a
single particle in space and nothing else and it would move
somewhere, there would be no time.
L108[12:53:38] <darsie> Would it
accelerate?
L109[12:53:42] <Mat2ch> It moves, but will
never get anywhere. There's nothing to stop it, nothing to change
its direction
L110[12:54:07] <Mat2ch> there's nothing to
measure speed, because speed is always in relation to
something
L111[12:54:37] <darsie> If it was a
photon, would expansion of the universe/space redshift it?
L112[12:55:14] <Mat2ch> If there would be
two particles, there would be movement in relation to them and this
would make something like "time".
L113[12:55:34] <Mat2ch> But this
"time" has no direction, it could be moving forward or
backward.
L114[12:56:07] <Mat2ch> And then it hit
me. The direction of time is only defined by us moving to or away
from something.
L115[12:56:45] <Mat2ch> And this makes it
impossible to go back in time and change things.
L116[12:57:35] <darsie> What if the
universe is a movie and god rewinds it?
L117[12:58:00] <Mat2ch> Because the past
is defined by the current state we are in. If we go back, we have
to take ourselfs out of the equation, our particles out of the
"now". When time is turned back then, our particles would
be missing and the past changes!
L118[12:58:48] <Mat2ch> darsie: then it
would just replay. Probably, depending on how much real ranomness
exists.
L119[12:59:11] <Mat2ch> But the rewind is
done from the outside, no particles take out of the equation
L120[13:01:05] <JVFoxy> just one of those
things... or is it all of it? -shrug-
L121[13:01:34] <darsie> Hi, I'm the FSM.
Here's a time machine: Enter time (negative only): [ ] [submit].
Please note this only works once.
L122[13:02:04] <darsie> See, we can go
back in time.
L123[13:04:21] <JVFoxy> smell a
trick
L124[13:09:39] <Mat2ch> Going back in time
would mean taking everyone with us :D
L125[13:09:54] <Mat2ch> but then we
wouldn't know that we went back in time.
L126[13:10:01] <darsie> mhm
L127[13:10:19] <Mat2ch> So we need to
think of some kind of information that can go back without changing
anything of the past
L128[13:11:08] <Mat2ch> or the change of
the past has to be so carefully crafted that we still exist there
and it's all plausible, but we have the message somehow in front of
us
L129[13:11:43] <Mat2ch> but it has to be
very very careful. Like eliminating some particles of a very old
stone wall from the past, so there is some writing on it.
L130[13:12:18] <Mat2ch> but this could
alter the whole thing, when people take pictures of it. We are
talking about particles that just don't exist anymore and never
existed from the beginning
L131[13:12:51] <Mat2ch> oh, this has such
a "All Good Things..." vibe to it. :D
L132[13:14:59] <darsie> Remember the
present.
L133[13:15:03] <darsie> Or some of
it.
L134[13:15:06] <darsie> Or the
message.
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L139[14:56:25] <hmw[at]> lol channel rules
only available via archive.net??
L140[14:56:35] <hmw[at]> .org that
is
L141[14:58:11] <hmw[at]> I have finally
made RO work on my computer, but I am stuck right at designing a
rocket. I can't figure out how to use the Procedural Interstage
Fairing - did't find any instructions that helped me so far - I
don't get the engine shroud, only a few blue lines. Please advise
-
L142[14:59:13] <hmw[at]> search terms so I
can find instructions, or perhaps direct instructions. Do I need
more than one part to use it? Someone on the web wrote, I need to
rotate the part, but it makes no sense to have a separator above
the engine. I don't know, what I am missing.
L144[15:00:35] <Mat2ch> huh, that's
weird
L145[15:01:06] <Mat2ch> the channel rules
are still on the address the webarchive has archived
L147[15:01:31] <hmw[at]> Yeah, it seems a
little odd to have the topic link to archive.org
L148[15:01:47] <hmw[at]> Maybe the forum
was down and someone updated the link temporarily
L149[15:02:06] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop:
ping!
L150[15:02:32] <hmw[at]> Those fairings
drive me nuts
L151[15:02:37] <Althego> ah i think it was
from the time when there was a forum outage for several days
L152[15:03:46] <hmw[at]> If you have
ideas, where I can go ask for help, please let me know those
too
L153[15:05:16] <darsie> hmw[at]: They're
not even channel rules. They're forum rules.
L154[15:05:33] <hmw[at]> heheh darsie once
more
L155[15:05:36] <hmw[at]> Greetings!
L156[15:05:59] <darsie> :)
L157[15:05:59] <darsie> hi
L158[15:06:02] <Mod9000> Hello,
darsie
L159[15:09:24] <hmw[at]> Holy Mün
L160[15:09:36] <hmw[at]> You need to add
fairings to the fairings thing
L161[15:09:55] <goblin> > the
helicopter, which will remain attached to the rover for 30 to 60
days
L162[15:10:14] <goblin> WAAT... that's
like over a month! How can they wait so long ;-)
L163[15:10:28] <Althego> not waiting that
long
L164[15:11:06] <Althego> they have to
change software for ground operations, deploy instruments, check
all of them, do drive tests, etc
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L167[16:51:11] <raptop> yeah, they're like
that because of a forum problem
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L186[20:05:19] <TristenKSP> e
L187[20:19:35] <raptop> Ə
L188[20:21:01] <Althego> ű
L189[20:26:02] <darsie> .
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L191[20:37:15] *
raptop should get up to more unicode shenanigans
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L204[23:40:00] <JVFoxy> weee...
sorta
L206[23:40:50] <JVFoxy> just something a
little creative
L207[23:41:09] <JVFoxy> second and third
launch career...
L208[23:42:08] <JVFoxy> not happy the
little thrusters in 1.11.1 aren't work'n but eh well..
L209[23:43:59] <darsie> Rendezvous?
Docking?
L210[23:44:12] <JVFoxy> the first..
L211[23:44:26] <JVFoxy> didn't have enough
to get the docking JR.. otherwise it would have been docking
L212[23:46:39] <JVFoxy> 8 RCS linear
ports. M Equals 1... or meet up in less than an orbit ^.^
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L214[23:52:15] <darsie> M Equals 1?
L215[23:56:04] <JVFoxy> back in the Gemini
days, it was what they called launching from the surface to meet
with the ship in orbit within one orbit. A requirement for the moon
landings with Apollo
L216[23:58:45] ⇦
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