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L18[07:22:43] <Althego> there is a slight warp of the disc of the milky way
L19[07:22:48] <Althego> "There are Flat-Milky Wayers all around the Galaxy"
L20[07:36:16] <Althego> ah found flat earth content
L21[07:36:24] <Althego> already a better day than yesterday
L22[07:51:32] <packbart> you're still not convinced?
L23[07:53:04] <Althego> i am convinced they are entertaining
L24[07:53:17] <Althego> (the flatties)
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L28[08:58:29] <kubi> they believe that Earth is 2-dimensional
L29[08:58:57] <kubi> however, if you look at it from its edge, then it is only 1D
L30[08:59:03] <kubi> but
L31[08:59:24] <kubi> go far enough, and it will be a dot without a dimension
L32[08:59:54] <kubi> so, at the end they are at only the first level of enlightenment
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L34[09:25:23] <Althego> cant stop watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ErwnRcplc
L35[09:27:33] <darsie> Fiddlesticks the cuddly hedgehog
L36[09:35:46] <packbart> all SAS modes available in some games but not all. weird bug
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L39[09:47:26] <packbart> "For some reason forum changes monazite to mopedantte" - I guess the forum's being too pedantic about nazis, maybe
L40[09:48:22] <Althego> i dont know either of these words
L41[09:48:40] <Althego> changes blurgadonk to glerboloh
L42[09:48:43] <packbart> it was in a thread about the Community Resource Pack
L43[09:48:56] <packbart> so it's probably some stuff to be found in planets
L44[09:49:15] <packbart> "Monazite is a primarily reddish-brown phosphate mineral that contains rare-earth elements."
L45[09:49:26] <packbart> the forum software only sees "nazi" and changes it to "pedant"
L46[09:49:41] <Althego> lol
L47[09:50:00] <Althego> write it with . or - in the middle somewhere
L48[09:51:38] <Althego> hehe guy doesnt know what pie is. also argues it has different value
L49[09:51:40] <packbart> Mopeddante - a poet on a small motorcycle
L50[09:51:48] <Althego> lol
L51[09:52:05] <Althego> asks: what is 15 degrees in pi?
L52[09:52:29] <Althego> i guess he is talking about radians, but doesnt know what radians are either
L53[09:52:57] <packbart> https://xkcd.com/2205/ - "assume Pi is one"
L54[09:54:00] <Althego> you cant make this up
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L58[10:56:58] <Althego> prepare for rapid firing, two arrivals to mars on the 9th and 10th, hope and tianwen-1, perseverence arrive later on the 22nd
L59[10:58:23] <flayer> epic stuff
L60[11:04:16] <Althego> it is cool. epic would be 3 manned missions at the same time
L61[11:06:28] <flayer> epic relative to our time
L62[11:09:54] <packbart> Thundermars - three capsules land, one returns
L63[11:10:17] <Althego> lol you didnt need to turn it into a deathmatch
L64[11:11:18] <Althego> was this some mad max?
L65[11:12:36] <packbart> featuring Tina Turner
L66[11:12:55] <packbart> ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max_Beyond_Thunderdome )
L67[11:13:19] <Althego> Aunty explains that Bartertown’s electrical supply depends on a crude methane refinery powered by pig feces.
L68[11:13:28] <Althego> hmm, methane refinery
L69[11:13:33] <Althego> needed on mars too
L70[11:14:10] <packbart> also "Jedediah the Pilot"
L71[11:14:25] <Althego> hehe
L72[11:14:52] <Althego> it is jedediah
L73[11:15:07] <Althego> but close enough
L74[11:18:55] <Althego> is armageddon a kerbal movie?
L75[11:19:13] <Althego> space heroism, stupidity and broken physics
L76[11:26:12] <Althego> maybe somebody could make a remix of it with kerbals, saying and doing kerbal things
L77[11:34:08] <flayer> for years i thought mad max was just a movie about life in australia
L78[11:34:47] <Althego> mad max 1 is :)
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L81[12:09:55] <Mat2ch> Althego: I fear that the Mars thing could turn into a death match
L82[12:10:17] <Althego> mars is dangerous already without that
L83[12:10:45] <Althego> maybe later when there are established colonies
L84[12:10:59] <Althego> when there is no more unclaimed land
L85[12:11:51] <Mat2ch> you just go and claim all the land on the first mission.
L86[12:12:05] <Althego> impossible, you need people to hold it
L87[12:12:07] <Mat2ch> Everyone else landing needs a permission or it's a war declaration. :D
L88[12:12:17] <Mat2ch> No, no, that's the fun part.
L89[12:12:47] <Mat2ch> Since the Mars belongs to one country on Earth it would be considered a war declaration here, too.
L90[12:12:49] <Mat2ch> :D
L91[12:14:00] <Althego> scary stuff. we have enoug hproblems already
L92[12:16:52] <Althego> youtuber puts on a (safe but painful) shocking device and connects it tou supercjats
L93[12:17:01] <Althego> to superchats
L94[12:24:38] <Althego> who would have thought that people would pay money just to se one guy suffer
L95[12:34:03] <Mat2ch> are you sure it is not facked?
L96[12:34:07] <Mat2ch> *faked
L97[12:35:29] <Althego> no, but the device exists
L98[12:38:40] <Mat2ch> ElectroBoom does the same and I'm not always sure if it's real or just very well overreacted :D
L99[12:52:29] <packbart> as far as I know, there are already international treaties in place covering Mars. King Elon can't just claim the land
L100[12:52:59] <Althego> simple, he will be prophet elon on a relegion, and it will be allowed
L101[12:53:00] <packbart> unless he doesn't expect to return, either
L102[12:53:18] <Althego> *of a
L103[13:04:31] <darsie> Treaties are just words/paper. if King Elon rules on Mars that may work out. But his empire on Earth may get confiscated.
L104[13:05:07] <packbart> that's why he's putting the Orbit Denial System (aka Starlink) in place
L105[13:05:15] <packbart> one signal from Mars, instant Kessler
L106[13:06:01] <darsie> Might even be a powerful threat while being on Earth.
L107[13:09:57] <Althego> now with lasers
L108[13:10:11] <Althego> those might be self defense lasers from intercepting satellites
L109[13:11:26] <darsie> Hackers could trigger Kessler syndrome.
L110[13:12:50] <packbart> use a few thousand lasers to target a single point on the surface
L111[13:13:58] <darsie> Some website said some Republicans think Democrats started Californias forest fires with orbital lasers.
L112[13:14:42] <darsie> GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/marjorie-taylor-greene-qanon-wildfires-space-laser-rothschild-execute.html
L113[13:16:10] <kubi> I'm curious is these are true or just propaganda
L114[13:16:17] <kubi> dunno which is worse
L115[13:16:42] <Althego> i heard about lasers
L116[13:16:56] <packbart> Starlink doesn't have that many lasers yet, so it couldn't have been them
L117[13:16:58] <Althego> i dont remember if they were supopsed to be orbital
L118[13:17:49] <darsie> I thought each starlink sat has at least one laser for intersat comm.
L119[13:18:10] <Althego> not yet
L120[13:18:16] <Althego> only the new polar batch has them
L121[13:18:33] <Althego> and for a while only the polars are going to have them
L122[13:18:50] <Althego> full laser equipment starts from next year
L123[13:19:08] <Althego> but there will be still satellites remaining in orbit without lasers
L124[14:06:53] <Althego> some kind of rocket for ants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYR7lQyCVI0
L125[14:07:01] <Althego> (live)
L126[14:07:15] <Althego> apparently it doesnt fly high up
L127[14:14:26] <packbart> bio-fuels!
L128[14:16:23] <packbart> isn't fossil fuel also a "bio-derived fuel"?
L129[14:16:35] <Althego> yes
L130[14:16:44] <Althego> thecnically one of the rarest resources of the universe
L131[14:16:47] <Althego> and we just burn it
L132[14:20:45] <packbart> it's nature's plan
L133[14:20:50] <Mat2ch> Althego: we don't really know that yet. Life could have been plenty all over the universe, but now extinct and turned into fossil fuel...
L134[14:21:40] <Althego> hehe like carlin with the plastics. maybe the earth wanted plastics, but didnt know how. the answer to the age old question, why are we here? plastics
L135[14:22:54] <packbart> yeah, I somewhat believe in it ;) the garbage patches will become a new primordial goo
L136[14:23:12] <packbart> life will incorporate plastics one way or another
L137[14:23:50] <packbart> and it really feels like we're being phased out ;)
L138[14:30:38] <Mat2ch> Oh, that's why people oppose the ocean cleanup!
L139[14:31:31] <packbart> "first bio-derived fuel ... in the entirety of the cosmos" - my, they are laying it on quite thick :>
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L141[14:38:25] <packbart> Mat2ch: the first coral to extrude a skeleton from microplastics will have an advantage in acidic waters over those that rely on calcium
L142[14:40:15] <Althego> the plastics are not really reactive, so you can only mechanically build on them
L143[14:40:16] <packbart> Blueshift seems to have some uplink problems. Or maybe it's still the Windows Update
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L145[14:41:21] <packbart> I seem to remember that there are ways to cold-weld them. But I don't know the chemical or physical details
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L147[14:42:15] <packbart> joining pieces of rain pipe
L148[14:43:57] <packbart> they'd probably need to produce some sort of solvent to glue droplets of plastic onto one another
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L150[14:45:02] <packbart> or build a sort of fibre-mesh
L151[14:45:08] <packbart> anyway, it's the future
L152[14:47:19] <Althego> usfo commander we are the future
L153[14:47:24] <Althego> *ufo
L154[14:50:10] <Althego> what is the point of this slither.io?
L155[14:50:27] <Althego> after a while you are going to die, and i dont even see high scores
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L157[15:09:40] <packbart> it's multiplayer snake. I see a leaderboard in the top right corner
L158[15:20:05] <Althego> https://twitter.com/schwa/status/1355665902541262852
L159[15:23:13] <packbart> JPEG refers to the standards body
L160[15:48:40] <packbart> well that fizzled out
L161[15:49:11] <Althego> looks dangerous
L162[15:49:35] <Althego> people in the chat in the universal language of the internet: f
L163[15:50:22] <packbart> that too will fizzle out over time
L164[15:50:40] <packbart> staging checked
L165[16:02:39] <Althego> after this i would drain the whole thing and check the valve
L166[16:09:02] <packbart> that's a lot of Vodka to drain ;)
L167[16:09:21] <Althego> wait, is it running on alcohol?
L168[16:10:00] <packbart> I don't know. Calling it "bio-derived" I imagined some sort of moonshine from potatoes ;)
L169[16:10:15] <Althego> but there were alcohol based rockets already?
L170[16:10:25] <Althego> so how were those not bio derived?
L171[16:10:33] <packbart> I like the Kerbal-ish control hut. A wooden container with a space agency poster
L172[16:10:47] <packbart> it's probably just marketing
L173[16:10:51] <Althego> hehe control hut
L174[16:10:53] <Althego> level 0
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L176[16:22:55] <Althego> i see the problem, it is solid fuel
L177[16:23:19] <Althego> so it is a hybrid rocket
L178[16:31:28] <packbart> solid fuel + gaseous oxygen? they don't really have much detail on their website. but it supposedly doesn't have cryo tanks
L179[16:32:16] <Althego> notrous oxide maybe
L180[16:34:10] <Althego> hehe nasaspaceflight is in the chat
L181[16:36:10] <Althego> nothing
L182[16:43:35] <Althego> i have been trying to start this career game for two days but the initial science collecting keeps me back
L183[16:44:57] <packbart> you could just start out with some initial science ;)
L184[16:45:46] <packbart> but yeah, I always mean to build a career template from which to start new games. didn't really get to do it, yet
L185[16:46:43] <Althego> we got to the point where a rocket is funded by patreon :)
L186[16:47:39] <packbart> the person next to the rocket for scale. it really is a large model rocket :)
L187[16:51:13] <packbart> "Unique Polar Launch Opportunity" - huh. can't you launch into polar orbit from almost anywhere?
L188[16:52:17] <packbart> Maine's Uniqueness is probably that it doesn't have a large population, just huge farms
L189[16:54:26] <raptop> unique polar launch opportunity because SLC and KLC don't exist?
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L191[17:01:29] <Althego> is it easier to launch to a polar orbit from the pole?
L192[17:01:43] <Althego> you dont have to cancel the rotation
L193[17:01:49] <umaxtu> ^^^
L194[17:02:28] <Althego> you could technically eat our fuel :)
L195[17:05:04] <Althego> oh yes, make it from sugar
L196[17:08:01] <raptop> annoy everyone by making a novelty confectionary company called "rocket candy"
L197[17:16:28] <Althego> hehe
L198[17:16:31] <Althego> sounds like a mission
L199[17:19:03] <raptop> ;mission add As a side hussle, you start a novelty confectionary company called "Rocket Candy".
L200[17:19:03] <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: As a side hussle, you start a novelty confectionary company called "Rocket Candy".
L201[17:28:47] <Althego> hehe, he called it unironically lithobraking
L202[17:29:22] <minas_tirith> raptop, the passing of the Grey Company
L203[17:29:35] <raptop> ;outcome add Don't worry about it.
L204[17:29:35] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: Don't worry about it.
L205[17:29:47] <raptop> ;outcome add This is Fine.
L206[17:29:47] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: This is Fine.
L207[17:30:05] <raptop> ;outcome add This is a Fine (for the deaths and destruction).
L208[17:30:05] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: This is a Fine (for the deaths and destruction).
L209[17:34:10] <Althego> what would remain if the rocket is destroyed? stardust memories
L210[17:34:37] * raptop really should watch a Gundam show sometime
L211[17:35:57] <minas_tirith> raptop, Austria
L212[17:36:58] <minas_tirith> Yeah the japanese make some interesting cartoons
L213[17:37:07] <minas_tirith> However I was thinking
L214[17:37:30] <minas_tirith> It'd be fun to write some keyboards themed on tolkien
L215[17:38:25] * raptop assumes that there are tengwar IMEs out there somewhere, though an actual keyboard could be amusing
L216[17:38:38] <raptop> (Naturally a dwarven one would be clicky)
L217[17:38:46] <minas_tirith> Oh I meant keyboard music
L218[17:38:52] <minas_tirith> But a computer keyboard would be fun too
L219[17:39:18] <minas_tirith> Dwarven would probably have stone body and keys
L220[17:43:30] <minas_tirith> raptop, on an unrelated note, Oblivion is so pretty
L221[17:44:10] * raptop should probably at some point see what the graphics mods options are for it and do a playthrough
L222[17:44:46] <minas_tirith> Unmodded is pretty
L223[17:44:50] <minas_tirith> No need for graphics mods
L224[17:47:39] <minas_tirith> raptop, when you walk out of the prison for the first time and see the rolling green valleys, clouds and purple hills in the distance...
L225[17:55:55] <raptop> nice
L226[17:56:07] <Althego> oh no, the launch still didnt happen and an angry astronaut live stream is coming up
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L228[18:07:44] <Althego> from unconfirmed sources supposedly the problem with sn8 was that debris went all over the place including the other side of the border
L229[18:14:27] <minas_tirith> Althego, hi
L230[18:33:48] <umaxtu> sounds like we might actually need a wall their :D
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L242[20:03:34] <Althego> flies, but t here was no image of the launch
L243[20:03:54] <Althego> at leas the rocket streamed an image
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L247[20:39:11] <Althego> hehe, exactly a title i would expect from nile red "Making a deadly chemical in my parents' garage"
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L250[21:16:04] <raptop> ;mission add You commense primary ignition.
L251[21:16:04] <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: You commense primary ignition.
L252[21:16:12] <raptop> (This was in there at one time)
L253[21:16:26] <raptop> ;mission del You commense primary ignition.
L254[21:16:27] <LunchBot> raptop: Deleted mission: "You commense primary ignition."
L255[21:16:34] <raptop> ;mission add You commence primary ignition.
L256[21:16:34] <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: You commence primary ignition.
L257[21:16:47] <raptop> spelling hard
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