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L1[00:00:28] <raptop> nice
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L4[00:10:53] <raptop> boom
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L7[00:21:00] <darsie> Maybe with refuelling
and optimized flying it can make it.
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L24[03:54:56] <raptop> ;mission add You
explain how the SAS knows where it is.
L25[03:54:57] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
mission: You explain how the SAS knows where it is.
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L34[05:44:22] <Althego> heh starlink 17
launch date moved again
L35[05:44:36] <Althego> possibly 2 spacex
launches on monday
L36[05:45:01] <Althego> and starlink 18 is
also coming up
L37[05:47:12] <raptop> "Wait, what if
we just stuck the later starlink payloads on a spaceship?" --
hopefully no one until the testing gets farther
L38[05:48:35] <Althego> you could put a few
of the starlink sats on the dragon, in the external trunk
L39[05:51:59] *
raptop imagines that for an ISS mission
L40[05:52:00] <raptop> "Hang on, we
need to drop off a few sats before we dock"
L41[05:53:20] <Althego> iss is in 51 deg,
some starlink sats are in 53
L42[05:53:54] <Althego> maybe it can be
done, i am not use how much plane change those ions would be able
to do
L43[05:54:51] <raptop> hrm
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L49[07:49:41] <Althego> no launches, no
flat earth videos, sad day
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L55[10:36:09] <Mat2ch> Althego: and rain
and grey and bad weather overall
L56[10:36:58] <Althego> hehe, welcome back
to hardware unavailable
L57[10:37:49] <Mat2ch> Althego: you can do
some plane changes just by using earths not uniform magnetic
field...
L58[10:38:19] <Althego> and non uniform
gravity too
L59[10:38:30] <Mat2ch> one or two degrees
should be possible in a decent amout of time
L60[10:39:13] <Althego> but it would still
be a pretty kerbal launch, because timing is an issue, and you have
to time to get to iss and to be in the correct requirement plane
for the sats. double restrictions
L61[10:39:24] <Althego> and you could only
take a few of them anyway
L62[10:39:28] <Althego> not worth it
L63[10:45:40] <Mat2ch> nah, not
really
L64[10:45:45] <Mat2ch> but would make a
nice tech demo
L65[10:47:18] <Althego> so the first
totally space tourist flight
L66[10:47:23] <Althego> is not going to
have tom cruise
L67[10:50:29] <Mat2ch> not?
L68[10:51:03] <Althego> instead 3 rich guys
and the actual commander
L69[10:51:19] <Althego> think of it how
rich they must be to pay a ticket
L70[10:51:59] <Althego> does the iss even
have accomodations for this many people?
L71[10:56:39] <Mat2ch> How long is the
stay?
L72[10:56:51] <Althego> few weeks
L73[10:57:05] <Mat2ch> they could all sleep
in the capsule
L74[10:57:08] <Mat2ch> there's enough space
there
L75[10:57:37] <Althego> ah yes it is not
the soyuz
L76[10:57:49] <Mat2ch> even got a
toilet
L77[10:57:58] <Mat2ch> well, not a nice
one, like the soyuz tbh
L78[10:58:01] <Althego> i think they went
up to 12 people once? so maybe the iss is enough
L79[11:00:00] <Mat2ch> There should be a
list of beds somewhere ;)
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L98[18:07:11] <Althego> at least after this
they can move out the crane to safety
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L105[20:28:29] <Mat2ch> I wonder why the
crane is still attached
L106[20:28:40] <Mat2ch> I thought they
have a system that holds the rocket down
L107[20:28:42] <Althego> probably
stability
L108[20:30:19] <Althego> must make our
rocket lyapunov stable :)
L109[20:30:33] <Mat2ch> almost every car
driving by the cam is a huge inefficient pickup truck
L110[20:30:35] <Mat2ch> crazy
L111[20:30:43] <Althego> americans
L112[20:30:52] <minas_tirith> Althego, are
you a mathematician
L113[20:30:57] <Althego> no
L114[20:31:05] <Althego> that is why the
cybertruck, as ugly as it is, going to be a huge success
L115[20:31:19] <Althego> because most
people dont use pickups to actually transport things
L116[20:31:39] <Mat2ch> now a Tesla is
going by
L117[20:31:41] <minas_tirith> Lyapunov
stability seems like a mathematician thing
L118[20:32:09] <Althego> technically
right, but it is the basis of the control theory of nonlinear
systems
L119[20:32:35] <Mat2ch> and now a jeep,
which looks rather small compared to all the F150s...
L120[20:33:18] <minas_tirith> Althego,
whatever you said is very mathy too
L121[20:36:58] *
raptop vaguely recalls seeing something about lyapunov time in
predicting planetary orbits
L122[20:37:14] <Althego> the original
application was for that
L123[20:39:49] <raptop> ah, makes
sense
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L126[21:30:26] <darsie> If people shared
cars they could use the right car for the right job. Since they
don't, they have to use a car that fits most jobs, but not
ideally.
L127[21:37:13] <raptop> Families do, and
theoretically buses/trains can provide "cars" for some
purposes
L128[21:38:01] <raptop> (in practice of
course, buses and trains somewhat unreliable and have very limited
temporal and spacial coverage)
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L133[22:07:22] <raptop> ;outcome add For
some reason, subsequent modifications make your designs
increasingly crab-like.
L134[22:07:22] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
outcome: For some reason, subsequent modifications make your
designs increasingly crab-like.
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