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L10[00:38:26] <addison> Best video game ever

L11[00:38:56] <addison> How do I send messages in the #minecraft channel

L12[00:38:57] <addison> ??

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L14[00:41:15] <raptop> 62 seconds

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L19[01:33:46] <raptop> ;mission add You water your rocket garden with a J-404 Panther in wet mode.

L20[01:33:47] <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: You water your rocket garden with a J-404 Panther in wet mode.

L21[01:34:21] <packbart> You strawberry bush is now in space

L22[01:37:07] * raptop sells "astronaut style" freeze-dried strawberries

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L48[05:11:48] <XXCoder> wait

L49[05:11:53] <XXCoder> is mission back?

L50[05:11:57] <XXCoder> ;mission

L51[05:11:57] <LunchBot> XXCoder: Due to budget cuts you decide to use discarded IDE cables instead of struts. The mission is aborted when the official mission cat jumps on the primary console.

L52[05:12:11] <XXCoder> lol

L53[05:12:33] <XXCoder> i wonder if my old entries is still there. i wont spam though

L54[05:13:17] <raptop> you probably want to read through https://www.flherne.uk/hacks/missions.txt and https://www.flherne.uk/hacks/outcomes.txt

L55[05:14:15] <XXCoder> tried to find only one i could remember. didnt find it

L56[05:14:22] <XXCoder> maybe i misremembered heh

L57[05:19:43] <Althego> not complete

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L59[05:22:56] <raptop> admittedly

L60[05:24:14] <raptop> ;mission add You use the EVA construction feature to peform a rapid unplanned assembly.

L61[05:24:14] <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: You use the EVA construction feature to peform a rapid unplanned assembly.

L62[05:25:14] <Althego> hehe

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L65[05:50:31] <raptop> oh, hey, this still exists https://i.imgur.com/WdbYlya.png

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L71[06:30:52] <Althego> ms could hurry up a bit and finally push the update that removes that cursed flash

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L98[06:59:06] <Althego> quality connection

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L113[07:15:49] <Althego> !road

L114[07:15:52] <Kerbot> Althego => Primary; Monday, Jan 25, 2021; 12:00 pm to 6:00 pm; Scheduled | Secondary; Tuesday, Jan 26, 2021; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Scheduled | Secondary; Wendeday, Jan 27, 2021; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Scheduled

L115[07:16:11] <Althego> !nela

L116[07:16:12] <Kerbot> Althego => Starship Prototype - SN9 High-Altitude Test Flight - Jan 25 (estimated) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/sn9-high-altitude-te for info/stream

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L122[09:20:31] <Mat2ch> Althego: the NSF people already have set up a live stream link ;)

L123[09:20:41] <Althego> lol

L124[09:20:45] <Althego> what for

L125[09:20:49] <Althego> it is like 3 in the morning

L126[09:20:53] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPRfJxz-ECE

L127[09:21:27] <Mat2ch> a bit stormy there

L128[09:21:31] <Mat2ch> could stop the flight

L129[09:22:24] <Althego> A mix of clouds and sun. Gusty winds diminishing during the afternoon. High near 30C. Winds S at 30 to 50 km/h.

L130[09:22:59] <Althego> 30 in the winter seems to be nice. unless it is in fahrenheit for soem reason

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L132[09:26:14] <Mat2ch> if it's 30° C in the winter there, I don't want to be there in the summer...

L133[09:29:40] <Althego> hehe

L134[09:38:45] <Mat2ch> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownsville,_Texas#Climate

L135[09:38:49] <Mat2ch> well, not too bad, if you ask me

L136[09:39:05] <Mat2ch> we have 40° C in summer here now, but still get cold winter :P

L137[09:39:24] <Mat2ch> But I'm not sure if I could get used to it. With AC in the bedroom maybe

L138[09:39:30] <Althego> hehe

L139[09:39:36] <Althego> i think i have to move there

L140[09:39:44] <Althego> oh wait, full of texans

L141[09:39:50] <Althego> maybe to austin?

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L152[12:43:56] <Dutchy45> Hey guys, just started my first hard level game. Is it cheaper to buy the parts in a group in R&D versus buying them individually in the parts menu?

L153[12:44:15] <Althego> i think it is the same

L154[12:44:38] <Althego> but you can leave some parts for later that are not useful at the moment

L155[12:44:44] <Althego> if you buy them individually

L156[12:45:01] <Althego> typically aero nodes are expensive and you just need that one control surface or something similar

L157[12:46:31] <Dutchy45> Is what I figured, thanks. Wanted to be sure

L158[12:51:08] <FLHerne> XXCoder: The mission database was reconstructed by trawling IRC logs, it might be missing things

L159[12:51:21] <XXCoder> nice

L160[13:04:57] <Mat2ch> !mission

L161[13:04:57] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You embark on a mission to find and capture the Mock Turtle. Kerbin blows up.

L162[13:05:10] <Mat2ch> Why does always Kerbin blow up?

L163[13:05:16] <Mat2ch> Why can't it blow down?

L164[13:11:37] <Althego> it cant blow up either, no up in space

L165[13:12:17] <Althego> unless we interpret up as away from the surface, and it blows up in every direction

L166[13:12:25] <umaxtu> Mat2ch, they'd have to increase the ESRB rating

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L168[13:17:20] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: Planets aren't easily compressible

L169[13:18:15] <Mat2ch> Excect if the planet is hollow!

L170[13:18:19] <Mat2ch> :D

L171[13:18:52] <Althego> not really. because in that case all the mass is in a super dense outer shell, that can probably just shrug off any attack

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L173[13:28:05] <Althego> lol nsf stream is live

L174[13:28:38] <Althego> nothing is expected for hours

L175[13:30:04] <Mat2ch> yeah

L176[13:30:08] <Mat2ch> crazy people :D

L177[13:33:19] <Dutchy45> not payed attention lately. What is nsf stream about?

L178[13:34:38] <FLHerne> SN9 test flight

L179[13:34:49] <FLHerne> Which probably isn't today anyway, there's no evac notice

L180[13:35:19] <FLHerne> But the NSF team are going to talk into a camera in front of it all day just in case

L181[13:35:57] <Dutchy45> thanks FLHerne

L182[13:36:23] <Althego> all? das

L183[13:43:43] <Althego> but why are these flights keep getting smaller?

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L185[13:57:48] <Mat2ch> Smaller?

L186[13:58:07] <Althego> started with 15, became 12.5 now it is just 10

L187[13:58:39] <Althego> soon elon's next plan will be merging spacex with boring company and doing rocket proelled negative hops under the ground

L188[14:02:23] <FLHerne> Reportedly back to 12.5 now

L189[14:02:47] <FLHerne> 10km was to avoid high-level winds on whichever week it was

L190[14:06:04] <Althego> oh it is back, then it is fine

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L196[15:52:23] <addison> Hello

L197[15:52:24] <Mod9000> Hello, addison

L198[15:52:37] <addison> I love IRC, C, and KSP

L199[15:52:48] <Althego> good

L200[15:56:57] <umaxtu> Althego, no its not. we only allow people who code in assembly in here

L201[15:57:04] <Althego> lol

L202[15:57:21] <raptop> UB UB UB

L203[15:57:28] <Althego> lol

L204[15:57:50] <addison> okay

L205[15:58:02] <umaxtu> NOP

L206[15:58:03] <addison> I code in atari 6502 assembly as well

L207[15:58:09] <Althego> hehe

L208[15:58:10] <addison> does that count?

L209[15:58:11] <Althego> take that

L210[15:58:18] <addison> goodbye

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L212[15:58:33] <Althego> actually i wrote more code in the ti-980 asm than in x86

L213[15:58:39] <umaxtu> darn. I though they were gonna stick around

L214[15:59:02] <umaxtu> I still need to finish my 6502 breadboard computer

L215[16:00:12] <raptop> blarg

L216[16:00:24] <raptop> ;mission add You have more of a comment than a question.

L217[16:00:24] <LunchBot> raptop: Added mission: You have more of a comment than a question.

L218[16:04:04] <raptop> ;outcome add Blood for the blood drive.

L219[16:04:05] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: Blood for the blood drive.

L220[16:04:33] <raptop> ;outcome add Blood for *all* of the Blood Gods.

L221[16:04:33] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: Blood for *all* of the Blood Gods.

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L224[16:09:56] <addison> KSP is the best video game

L225[16:10:02] <addison> C is the best programming language

L226[16:10:10] <addison> VIM is the best text editor

L227[16:10:18] <Althego> oh no

L228[16:10:18] <addison> And Assembly is great

L229[16:10:25] <addison> WDYM?

L230[16:10:29] <Althego> add SI is the best measurement system

L231[16:10:43] <addison> What is SI?

L232[16:10:44] <Althego> and then surely a war is going to break out

L233[16:10:47] <addison> I use metric

L234[16:11:00] <Althego> oh yes we also need tabs vs spaces

L235[16:11:21] <addison> I use VIM with `set tabstop=4`

L236[16:11:28] <addison> and tabs

L237[16:11:39] <addison> but personally, IDC what you use

L238[16:11:48] <addison> as long as everyone0 uses the same system

L239[16:11:53] <Althego> hehe

L240[16:11:56] <Althego> that is the problem

L241[16:12:25] <addison> Assembly or C

L242[16:12:37] <addison> NVM

L243[16:12:43] <addison> C or C++

L244[16:12:47] <FLHerne> raptop: Have you read 'Flight of the Runewright'?

L245[16:12:50] <addison> no

L246[16:12:56] <addison> Would you reccomend it?

L247[16:13:12] <FLHerne> Has spaceships powered by blood sacrifices :p

L248[16:13:17] <FLHerne> It's quite good

L249[16:13:23] <addison> Okaay....

L250[16:13:26] <addison> IDK

L251[16:13:30] <FLHerne> (re. the outcomes raptop added earlier)

L252[16:13:31] <addison> I am logging out now

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L254[16:13:42] <Althego> strange

L255[16:13:52] <FLHerne> Well, okay

L256[16:14:13] <Althego> not dr stephen strange

L257[16:14:35] <FLHerne> How would you know?

L258[16:20:14] <Althego> because i was clarifying i didnt mean dr stephen strange, just simply strange

L259[16:25:41] <FLHerne> But maybe they actually were

L260[16:26:05] <FLHerne> On the internet, no-one knows you're a reality-warping superhero

L261[16:26:35] <raptop> FLHerne: I have not read that

L262[16:39:21] <raptop> On an unrelated note, the snek language is cool because it allows for arbitrarily large ints

L263[16:39:44] <Althego> i didnt know that

L264[16:39:50] <Althego> ut i admit i never needed that

L265[16:40:36] <raptop> It's amusing to get exact values for eg: 2**100

L266[16:45:36] <Althego> !calc 2^100

L267[16:45:36] <Kerbot> Althego => 1267650600228229401496703205376

L268[16:45:55] <Althego> i guess it is not called arbitrary precision calculator for nothing

L269[16:46:28] <raptop> !calc 2^500

L270[16:46:28] <Kerbot> raptop => 3273390607896141870013189696827599152216642046043064789483291368096133796404674554883270092325904157150886684127560071009217256545885393053328527589376

L271[16:46:35] <raptop> ^fun with digit spam

L272[16:49:04] <raptop> Also, with appropriate factorial use, you can exactly calculate the odds of various poker hands

L273[16:53:27] <Althego> i, damaramu, shall regret this

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L275[16:58:24] <raptop> damaramu?

L276[16:58:36] <Althego> a quote

L277[17:02:25] <raptop> ah

L278[17:03:58] <Althego> (damaramu being dumb as he is, survived a sword strike through head, because his brain is more compact than of normal people)

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L280[17:08:32] <addison> Hi

L281[17:08:33] <Mod9000> Hello, addison

L282[17:08:40] <addison> Did I miss the war on C vs C++

L283[17:08:43] <Althego> no

L284[17:08:46] <addison> O

L285[17:08:49] <addison> Which one?

L286[17:08:51] <addison> I like c

L287[17:08:52] <raptop> C#

L288[17:08:55] <raptop> Obviously

L289[17:09:00] <addison> lame

L290[17:09:02] <addison> Whatever

L291[17:09:04] <Althego> there was a bit about python and arbitrarily large ints

L292[17:09:13] <addison> Okay

L293[17:09:17] <Althego> c# is ms java :)

L294[17:09:44] <addison> k

L295[17:10:11] <addison> Does anyone actually talk about Kerbal Space Program here?

L296[17:10:18] <Althego> sometimes

L297[17:10:35] <addison> I like modding the data files to refuel

L298[17:10:38] <addison> My crafts

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L300[17:10:57] <Althego> why

L301[17:13:30] <raptop> stabbity

L302[17:28:34] <Mat2ch> Road closed

L303[17:28:40] <Mat2ch> they are really going for it

L304[17:29:16] <Mat2ch> or maybe another static fire. Because the I can see clearly the hook for the chains of the left upper flap

L305[17:32:16] <umaxtu> that would be a problem

L306[17:36:42] <Althego> is there a red remove before flight stripe on the chain?

L307[17:37:15] <Mat2ch> the pad is not clear yet, so they could remove it last

L308[17:37:17] <Althego> i hope the mars landings dont happen during the night

L309[17:37:34] <Althego> we are like 2 weeks away ffrom the first

L310[17:39:12] <Althego> maybe the wind is too strong

L311[17:42:02] <umaxtu> on Mars?

L312[17:42:10] <Althego> no, in boca chica

L313[17:46:42] <Althego> tomorrow there will be morechance of rain, but less wind

L314[17:48:12] <umaxtu> I would think they'd want good visibility

L315[17:48:20] <Althego> me too

L316[17:48:30] <Althego> but they have telemetry and cameras on the ship too

L317[17:48:42] <packbart> uh, is one of the NASASpaceFlight guys watching a gamer stream or what is going on with that

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L320[17:49:03] <Althego> and at least two if not three independent crews are capturing the whole thing too

L321[17:49:44] <packbart> hah, no. Firefox mixed something up

L322[17:49:46] <packbart> weird

L323[17:53:06] <packbart> reload fixed weird audio

L324[18:33:10] <Althego> what... losing speed and gaining altitude, also gaining apoapsis

L325[18:33:43] <Althego> this is a kraken drive

L326[18:33:47] <Althego> but what is causing it

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L328[18:55:35] <FLHerne> Without the engine on?

L329[18:55:40] <Althego> yes

L330[18:55:47] <FLHerne> Outside the atmosphere?

L331[18:55:52] <Althego> yes

L332[18:56:30] <raptop> Do you have anyone EVAing on a ladder?

L333[18:56:31] <Althego> that was an experimental eve ascent craft from some previous version but already with electric prop

L334[18:56:36] <Althego> no

L335[19:01:32] <raptop> Do you have anyone Evaing? The S2 engine violates a great deal of physics, as do the various angels

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L339[19:02:32] <Althego> lol

L340[19:03:21] <Mat2ch> maybe they do a test flight today because of the winds?

L341[19:03:28] <Mat2ch> SN10 is already waiting...

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L343[19:03:50] <Althego> there is also the test tank

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L351[20:32:03] <raptop> ;outcome add This ultimately results in a boring but modestly profitable business.

L352[20:32:03] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: This ultimately results in a boring but modestly profitable business.

L353[20:33:11] <Althego> hehe

L354[20:42:27] <FLHerne> ;mission

L355[20:42:27] <LunchBot> FLHerne: You're bound for Moho with the goal of getting a decent tan. Neils DeGrasee Tyson complains about the physics in KSP.

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