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L29[06:12:15] <umaxtu> did they get rid of
the advanced tweakables option?
L30[06:12:24] <umaxtu> nevermind
L31[06:21:16] <raptop> they did not, but
I'll admit to sometimes missing it
L33[06:46:02] <packbart> it turns on
advanced tweakables and the extended burn indicator by default (and
can save global setting per save-game)
L34[06:46:12] <Althego> hehe the camera
double click look was originally on. i turned it off fast
L35[06:46:39] <packbart> I don't even know
what it does, I must admit. never changed it, either
L36[06:46:40] <Althego> i didnt know there
was a confirmed message deletion
L37[06:47:13] <Althego> i just carry over
my old config all the time
L38[06:47:31] <Althego> 1.11.1 when?
L39[06:47:36] <Althego> the flag bug is
critical
L40[06:50:16] <packbart> totally
unplayable, you say? ;)
L41[06:50:17] <Althego> anton petrov. now
he told us that earth is spinning a bit faster and because of this
the very first negative leap second may happen
L42[06:50:35] <Althego> unplayable in
career
L43[06:50:55] <packbart> the flags still
show up in the map
L44[06:51:10] <Althego> hmm
L45[06:51:19] <Althego> then it may not be
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L96[09:58:06] <Althego> oh no
L97[09:58:09] <Althego> more lemmings
L98[10:22:20] <Izaya> flag bug?
L99[10:23:09] <Althego> when the kerbal
plants the flag, somehow keeps sliding towards the flag, and
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L142[10:25:12] <Mat2ch> That looks
better.
L143[10:25:25] <Mat2ch> Netsplit and the
server I was on didn't recognize it. :/
L144[10:25:29] <Althego> so test flight on
friday?
L146[10:25:52] <Althego> no
L147[10:26:10] <Althego> but dres is like
bielefeld
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L149[10:27:25] <Mat2ch> It's not really
about Dres, but how to build that bridge...
L150[10:28:56] <Althego> hehe has to
overcome physics
L151[10:30:15] <Althego> hehe flag
crosshair
L152[10:34:52] <Althego> crazy
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L158[10:45:57] <Mat2ch> I wonder if the
overview has an xml version as well
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L160[10:46:22] <Mat2ch> Althego: that is
Thursday
L161[10:46:40] <Mat2ch> 21th January is a
Thursday
L162[10:46:41] <Althego> ok
L163[10:47:37] <Althego> there is an other
rstriction from monday to thursday
L164[10:47:43] <Althego> i guess for the
static fires
L165[10:48:50] <Izaya> Does anyone have
any documentation on the KSP save file format? Want to play with
lightweight craft sharing.
L166[10:49:04] <Althego> isnt it a text
file?
L167[10:49:10] <Izaya> yup
L168[10:49:16] <Izaya> it seems simple
enough too
L169[10:49:19] <Althego> so it is more or
less self documentinfg
L170[10:49:23] <Izaya> values are just key
= value
L171[10:49:25] <Izaya> one per line
L172[10:49:34] <Izaya> very pleasant
L173[10:50:04] <Izaya> was hoping for a
listing of valid keys and such, and maybe a formal specification of
the format so I can write a parser
L175[10:51:42] <Althego> supposedly it is
almost json
L176[10:52:08] <Izaya> Doesn't have commas
at the end so I don't think it's valid JSON
L177[10:52:30] <Izaya> it is superficially
similar though
L178[10:53:48] <Althego> somebody wanted
to make a loader for it 5 years ago
L180[10:54:17] <Izaya> I'll take a look
:)
L181[11:26:50] <Izaya> Got my parser
working enough to list the vessels in my save file :D
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L187[12:37:00] <darsie> 1337
L188[12:47:49] <Mat2ch> yay
L189[12:47:52] <Mat2ch> oh, too late
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L191[12:48:40] <darsie> .
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L194[13:07:39] <minas_tirith> darsie, Ia
Ia Shub Niggurath...The Goat with a Thousand Young
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L207[15:58:36] <shub_niggurath>
Fire-Dragon-DoL, hi
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L219[18:19:22] <Althego> scott 14 minutes
ago
L220[18:21:58] <Althego> i noticed the
test was too short
L221[18:23:31] <Alanonzander> Which
test?
L222[18:23:39] <umaxtu> the SLS
hotfire
L223[18:23:44] <Althego> the sls 4 engine
test from yesterday
L224[18:24:33] <Althego> and as i
predicted before the test scott indeed did a video on it
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L226[18:25:37] <Alanonzander> ahh
yes
L227[18:33:56] <packbart> yeah but Scott
doesn't know what happened, either
L228[18:35:00] <Althego> ultimately doesnt
matter. sls is 30 years too late, despite using shuttle hardware
way overpriced, non reusable, and is never going to be redy for any
action
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L230[18:37:36] <shub_niggurath> You never
know
L231[18:37:40] <shub_niggurath> Old tech
isn't always bad
L232[18:37:50] <Althego> the rs-25 is a
nice engine
L233[18:39:07] <shub_niggurath> Its nice
to see nasa forging its own path independent of that musk
thing
L234[18:41:37] <Alanonzander> sdomethic
went wron in engine #4, that's about as much as I can find out
too
L235[18:41:59] <Alanonzander> *something
went wrong
L236[18:43:36] <shub_niggurath> Althego,
the fact of the matter remains
L237[18:43:58] <shub_niggurath> That any
manned mission to mars in the near future will be a suicide
mission
L238[18:44:33] <shub_niggurath> There is
no point in trying for mars
L239[18:44:49] <shub_niggurath> When our
own orbit and our own moon have yet to be utilized
L240[18:44:56] <packbart> There's not much
point in going to the Moon, either
L241[18:45:18] <shub_niggurath> There is,
its not a suicide mission for one
L242[18:45:38] <shub_niggurath> People who
value their lives can visit there and come back
L243[18:45:51] <shub_niggurath> And we
won't have to train a new set everyone to send to die
L244[18:45:56] <shub_niggurath>
*everytime
L245[18:46:18] <Althego> moon is close.
you can come back in a matter of days
L246[18:46:28] <shub_niggurath>
Exactly
L247[18:46:38] <shub_niggurath> And with
present tech there is no way to return from mars thus a suicide
mission
L248[18:46:46] <Althego> but if you think
of it, isolated small settlements do exist already. like research
stations in antarctica
L249[18:46:56] <shub_niggurath> Precisely
my point
L250[18:46:59] <shub_niggurath> Moon is
much better
L251[18:47:11] <Althego> in a sense they
have to have life support, food stored, and self sufficient in case
of a medical emergency
L252[18:47:26] <Althego> and you cant
leave for half a year or os
L253[18:47:29] <Althego> so
L254[18:47:47] <shub_niggurath> Althego,
look up at the sky
L255[18:47:49] <Althego> so just to have
experience with that, we dont need the moon
L256[18:47:51] <shub_niggurath> You can
see the moon
L257[18:47:55] <shub_niggurath> Can you
spot mars as easily?
L258[18:47:57] <Althego> you can see mars
too
L259[18:48:04] <Althego> yes, look for a
red star
L260[18:48:12] <shub_niggurath> You can
but its tougher and you need a binocular to see inside it
L261[18:48:22] <shub_niggurath> at least a
binocular
L262[18:48:41] <shub_niggurath> I can see
the details of moon with just my naked eyes
L264[18:50:39] <shub_niggurath> Althego,
and if I am not wrong man has already set foot on the moon and
returned at least once
L265[18:51:02] <Althego> more than
once
L266[18:51:25] <shub_niggurath> Yeah I
have heard we have already stepped on the moon
L267[18:51:34] <shub_niggurath> So we have
past experience to help us make a moon base
L268[18:53:47] <shub_niggurath> Althego,
the vast dark emptiness of space is terrifying
L269[18:53:59] <Althego> it is
peaceful
L270[18:54:08] <Althego> at least until we
go there
L271[18:54:23] <shub_niggurath> Even our
local star is far from peaceful
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L273[18:54:26] <shub_niggurath> But
yes
L274[18:54:45] <shub_niggurath> The gulf
between bodies, even more so between galaxies is...exceptionally
quiet and dark
L275[18:55:06] <shub_niggurath> Althego,
does it terrify you to think of the vastness between
galaxies?
L276[18:55:29] <Althego> no
L277[18:55:32] <Althego> i cant imagine
them
L278[18:55:57] <Althego> if you wait long
enough some galaxies come to you :)
L279[18:55:57] <shub_niggurath> Like even
our closest intragalactic neighbour is way beyond our technological
abilities to reach
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L281[18:56:09] <shub_niggurath> Poor
andromeda and milky way
L282[18:56:30] <shub_niggurath> Though
tbh
L283[18:56:34] <shub_niggurath> Its cold
and empty out there
L284[18:56:43] <shub_niggurath> So I can't
blame for them two to want to huddle up together
L285[18:57:08] <shub_niggurath> Hey Milky
Way, please don't fling us out when you meet your buddy Andro
L286[18:57:44] <Althego> 4.5 billion
years
L287[18:57:44] <shub_niggurath> Althego,
the horrors of the cosmos
L288[18:57:58] <Althego> twinkle twinkle
little star (dead space)
L289[18:58:14] <Althego> so at that point
the sun is probably a white dwarf
L290[18:58:24] <shub_niggurath> Spiral
galaxies look so pretty
L291[18:58:38] <Althego> btw life has only
a few hundred million years remaining on this planet
L292[18:58:45] <shub_niggurath> Do you
have instruments powerful enough to see m33's details?
L293[18:59:42] <Althego> the sun gets
hotter all the time slowly, at some point photosynthesis is going
to stop. for a while chemosynthesizing bacteria will survive under
ground, but then it gets too hot, water evaporated, and that is
it
L294[18:59:52] <shub_niggurath> I wonder
if there's any pretty spiral galaxy that is oriented at an angle
that we can see its "disc" head on
L295[19:00:15] <Althego> probably at least
thousands
L296[19:00:37] *
raptop gestures at M51 and M101
L297[19:01:51] <Althego> i cant get more
than the galilean moons. but i wouldnt be able to see anything
because of the city lights anyway
L298[19:02:14] <shub_niggurath> raptop,
yeah thanks bro
L299[19:02:30] <shub_niggurath> M51 would
be a good example where the disc is oriented normal to us
L300[19:02:37] <shub_niggurath> or rather
facing us
L301[19:05:54] <shub_niggurath> Oh right
m101 is the pinwheel of course
L302[19:05:58] <shub_niggurath> I thought
m33 was pinwheel
L303[19:06:10] <shub_niggurath> That one
too is a good example yeah where the disc is facing us
directly
L304[19:08:23] <raptop> M33 isn't quite
face on, but a lot of the disk is visible
L305[19:09:17] <shub_niggurath> I meant
pinwheel, which I had confused with m33
L306[19:09:30] <shub_niggurath> m33
obviously seems more angled than these other two
L307[19:27:05] <shub_niggurath> raptop,
man both m51 and 101 are so goddamn pretty
L308[19:31:53] <raptop> something
something isaldn universes
L309[19:32:14] <Althego> is that like
isdn? :)
L310[19:35:04] <raptop> yeah, the
bandwidth isn't that great so far out
L312[19:35:30] <Althego> no stream
L313[19:41:23] <packbart> Confirming a
clean release from the aircraft and a perfectly executed ignition
of our main stage engine, NewtonThree.
L314[19:41:40] <Althego> max q
L315[19:41:59] <Althego> it is like in the
19th century. we are looking at telegraph messages for news about
an event
L316[19:42:30] <packbart> well, they do
have live video streams. just not for the unwashed public
L317[19:43:20] <packbart> and probably
some spectators in the Learjet circling nearby
L319[19:43:45] <packbart> MECO
L320[19:46:03] <packbart> well, looks like
they made it this time
L321[19:51:29] <Althego> it seems it was a
success
L322[19:52:33] <packbart> well, they still
need to relight for circularization. but yeah, looking good
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