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L14[05:21:37] <TommyInnit> Mum? Am I
adopted?
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L45[09:23:33] <Mat2ch> uhhh, that SpaceX
video
L47[09:23:41] <Mat2ch> new angles!
L48[09:23:58] <Mat2ch> And SN9 already has
all of its three engines installed
L49[09:24:18] <Mat2ch> they are in a hurry
it seems
L50[09:24:24] <Mat2ch> what do they know
about 2021? :D
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L52[09:51:46] <Mat2ch> "hi I'm Dean
and I'm a SpaceX alcoholic! Yesterday I spent two hours watching a
damn crane drive down the road and today I spent nearly as much
time watching as sn9 slowly maneuvered the same route."
L54[09:52:11] <Mat2ch> from the
"SpaceX Anonymous program"
L55[09:52:13] <Mat2ch> ;)
L56[09:52:33] <Mat2ch> Hi, I'm Mat2ch, and
I have a problem. I think. I like space ships and I like watching
them being built
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L59[10:32:44] <minas_tirith> Mat2ch, what
do you think about the medium of wood?
L60[10:40:24] <Mat2ch> wood is great. But
you can't built orbital rockets out of it.
L61[10:41:25] <minas_tirith> Mat2ch, I
meant for art
L62[10:41:30] <minas_tirith> Such as
printing
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L64[10:42:00] <darsie> minas_tirith is also
trolling ##astronomy@freenode with this topic.
L65[10:42:33] <astolfo> darsie, hello
L66[10:43:05] <Mat2ch> darsie: not sure if
this is trolling or just a little bit of hyperactivity. Somehow
cute. ;)
L67[10:43:39] <Mat2ch> astolfo: well, does
it matter what I think about other peoples art? As long as I don't
have to care about it, it doesn't matter. It's their art :)
L69[10:44:15] <Mat2ch> also please don't
gift me aweful art pieces. I will throw them away. Or sell them, if
they are worth anything.
L70[10:44:35] <astolfo> Mat2ch, I wanna
make something on wood
L71[10:44:50] <Mat2ch> Then go for
it.
L72[10:44:53] <astolfo> darsie, why are you
so triggered
L73[10:45:37] <raptop>
asfdljksdfljksadf
L74[10:45:42] <darsie> aoeu
L75[10:45:59] <Mat2ch> äöü
L76[10:46:02] <Mat2ch> :P
L77[10:46:21] <darsie> aeoeue
L78[10:46:37] <raptop> ああああ！
L79[10:46:41] <darsie> nice
rectangles
L80[10:46:53] <astolfo> darsie, if you
don't like any topic you can leave the channel or ignore the
person
L81[10:46:55] <raptop> ...it's
hiragana
L82[10:46:56] <astolfo> Its easy
L83[10:47:09] <raptop> astolfo: ...
L84[10:47:29] <astolfo> raptop, I am not
the one being triggered by a discussion on wood
L85[10:47:45] <darsie> astolfo: I didn't
say anything in ##astronomy. But you're doing it in multiple
channels/networks, so I reported it and leave any action to
mods.
L86[10:48:07] <astolfo> You reported me for
using a chat channel for chat?
L87[10:48:09] <astolfo> Wow
L88[10:48:13] <astolfo> Genius
L89[10:48:16] <Mat2ch> but I wouldn't call
it trolling.
L90[10:48:21] <Mat2ch> Trolling is
something different
L91[10:48:49] <raptop> this is...
something
L92[10:49:06] <raptop> Anyway, the RT-10's
casing is probably not wood
L93[10:49:10] *
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L94[10:49:38] <astolfo> Being triggered is
not good for you man. Use the /ignore feature to your
advantage.
L95[10:51:38] <Mat2ch> astolfo: you may
stop it, too.
L96[10:52:19] <astolfo> Yeah I'd prefer
some random not poking into unrelated conversations other people
are having
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L99[10:52:54] <raptop> I'm way too tired to
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L100[10:54:01] <astolfo> Dw I won't
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L103[11:32:09] <Althego> ignore exists for
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L106[11:53:45] <Althego> fluburtur uses
total immunity
L107[11:55:13] <Mat2ch> I know
L108[11:55:16] <Mat2ch> But I try :P
L109[11:55:26] <Mat2ch> Maybe over the
holidays he's got some time to have a look in here
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L124[14:57:53] <JVFoxy> so.. kerbals add
weight now.. any thoughts as to much they weigh?
L125[14:58:15] <darsie> 94.25 kg or
so
L126[14:58:17] <darsie> I guess.
L127[14:58:38] <JVFoxy> oh derp.. about
100lbs
L128[14:59:19] <JVFoxy> Watch'n Raize
space on youtube, threw a kerbal into the pod, DV dropped about
100-200 or something
L130[14:59:58] <JVFoxy> ah.. wait..
L131[15:00:10] <JVFoxy> without jetpack or
other stuff. But...
L132[15:00:23] <darsie> How can it not
have a jetpack?
L133[15:00:33] *
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L134[15:00:47] <darsie> When including the
parachute and jetpack, a Kerbonaut has a mass of 93.875kg.
L135[15:00:48] <flayer> inventory
L136[15:00:54] <Althego> you can remove
parts of the suit
L137[15:01:07] <Althego> say you dont need
jetpack for surface operatons
L138[15:01:11] <darsie> k
L139[15:01:18] <packbart> or you need the
inventory slot for parts
L140[15:01:38] *
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L141[15:01:40] <JVFoxy> ya.. guess I'm
more used to kerbals being suited and such as one whole unit..
never the barebones sort of speak
L142[15:01:57] <Althego> stable in
lyapunov sense? :)
L143[15:02:06] <darsie> what? :)
L144[15:02:35] <JVFoxy> I haven't gotten
1.11 yet.. so suit and parachute takes up slots?
L145[15:02:51] <JVFoxy> er... maybe not
suit. meant jetpack
L146[15:02:53] <packbart> yes. a Kerbal
has two inventory slots
L147[15:02:59] <darsie> JVFoxy: Weight
also depends on gravity ;).
L148[15:03:09] <packbart> you can remove
jetpacks or parachutes to carry other stuff
L149[15:03:22] <JVFoxy> darsie was
thinking under standard gravity
L150[15:03:38] <Althego> parachutes are
mostly useless anyway, because you need 3 stars to use them
L151[15:03:50] <packbart> 3? 1, I
think
L152[15:03:53] <JVFoxy> ah ok.. I played
with inventory a bit, but it was through a mod. Gave seats
inventory spaces even
L153[15:04:08] <packbart> yeah, thats's
KIS/KAS
L154[15:04:53] <JVFoxy> chutes... seems
sorta silly in space if you ask me, unless you do'n something
Gemini like, or When the Russians did those early flights, ejected
after re-entry
L155[15:05:14] <packbart> or to deorbit a
rescued kerbal without a pod :)
L156[15:05:20] <JVFoxy> or.. for messing
about, Kerbal shuts for wings
L157[15:05:33] <JVFoxy> packbart
MOOSE
L158[15:05:50] <packbart> (although they
*can* survive landing from orbit even without a parachute - just
point them helmet-first at the ground ;)
L159[15:05:51] <JVFoxy> or this case.. I
guess it be more KOOSE
L160[15:07:15] <JVFoxy> suppose could do a
'head first landing' but.. that seems like abuse of the game to me.
:P
L161[15:07:48] <darsie> Kerbals survive
horizontal attitude terminal velocity impacts at low Kerbin
altitude.
L162[15:08:44] <JVFoxy> ragdoll.. or is
that 'rubber man' physics when they hit?
L163[15:09:37] <JVFoxy> I still remember
that 'rubber man' effect from Halo when someone slammed an Elephant
tank on a team. Physics engine just pukes all over the place
L164[15:10:42] <Althego> poke
53280,1
L165[15:12:50] *
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L166[15:14:23] <bees> do jetpacks consume
monoprop from capsule now?
L167[15:15:45] <packbart> not without
mods
L168[15:15:53] <Althego> so still infinite
fuel
L169[15:16:23] <JVFoxy> KIS/KAS did at one
point have it consume mono, even gave extra tanks to carry around
for inventory. But I think at some point that was flipped off for
some reason?
L170[15:17:19] <packbart> - Kerbals in EVA
use EVA propellant from EVA cylinder parts and Jetpacks that they
are carrying.
L171[15:17:22] <packbart> - EVA cylinder
parts and Jetpacks are refilled when they are transferred back into
a vessel from a kerbal.
L172[15:17:30] <JVFoxy> was reading wiki
on kerbs. Some re-balancing was done. Items with seating had some
weight reduction now that crew adds mass
L173[15:17:40] <packbart> JVFoxy:
Kerbalism does, too. and some other mods
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L176[15:19:53] <JVFoxy> flaky net
L177[15:20:58] <JVFoxy> I've not played
KSP in over a month or so. Been crashing at a friend's avoiding
some chaos at home.. the whole virus thing just added to the
issues.
L178[15:21:50] <JVFoxy> I have been
wondering, if anyone's done a sort of simplified KSP game that
isn't mobile based
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L180[15:27:17] <astolfo> The virus has
attained new forms now
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L182[15:27:52] <Althego> this is not even
my final form!
L183[15:27:57] *
JVFoxy kicks router.. though suspecting interference over
wifi
L184[15:28:17] *
Mat2ch kicks the virus
L185[15:28:25] <Althego> the more
infectious form is in the uk for now. but i guess you cant stop
it
L186[15:28:26] <Mat2ch> quiet. We know
that you're always mutating!
L187[15:28:32] <astolfo> Althego, theres
one in africa too
L188[15:28:45] <packbart> that one is in
UK now, too
L189[15:29:04] <Althego> in reality mos
viruses mutate to be less deadly. because not killing the host
means they can be around longer and infect more hosts
L190[15:29:05] <Mat2ch> the brits always
knew how to throw a party
L191[15:29:26] <Althego> until the
americans threw a tea party :)
L192[15:29:30] <JVFoxy> what was that one
game.. you play as the infection or virus trying to kill
everyone?
L193[15:29:45] <packbart> Plague
Inc.
L194[15:30:27] <astolfo> Thats the scary
thing
L195[15:30:29] <JVFoxy> ya.. one of the
comments he made about it, its not exactly real. A virus can't
collectively act on things like they did in the game. Oh, time to
flip the switch, kill mode all over the world sorta thing ;P
L196[15:30:39] <astolfo> Developing cures
for virus might be forcing it to get better
L197[15:31:21] <JVFoxy> geez.. if this
situation doesn't get better soon. Might be looking at 2020-21
being the worse time ever
L198[15:31:44] <Althego> it is highly
unlikely this new virus ever goes away
L199[15:32:02] <sandbox> 2022
L200[15:32:06] <Althego> but the situation
could get better. we will just have seasonal small peaks lioke with
the flu
L201[15:32:14] <sandbox> it came to me in
a dream
L202[15:32:17] <Althego> since most of the
population will be immune
L203[15:33:01] <JVFoxy> hopefully immune
and not dead.. 'I am Legend' sorta stuff
L204[15:33:06] <sandbox> survival of the
fittest
L205[15:33:31] <JVFoxy> granted. its the
20 and 30-somethings that been gathering, making a mess of things.
At least over here anyways
L206[15:33:46] <JVFoxy> party like its
999?
L207[15:33:56] <JVFoxy> or was it
666?
L208[15:34:24] <packbart> true. I'm more
worried for my 80-year old parents than for myself, tbh
L209[15:35:57] <JVFoxy> mine are in their
60s and 70s
L210[15:36:45] <JVFoxy> they kept
pestering me to come over earlier on. I told them, with things
getting worse, a visit may not be the best thing right now.
L211[15:37:06] <JVFoxy> ... even if it
means being alone this year. such is life
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L213[15:55:45] <astolfo> packbart, you
never know
L214[15:55:53] <astolfo> They say this new
strain is affecting younger people too
L215[16:16:26] <sandbox> they say a lot of
things
L216[16:17:19] <astolfo> sandbox, viruses
are scary
L217[16:18:40] <Althego> humans are
scarier
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L219[16:19:34] <astolfo> Althego, you must
understand. The virus kills without thought.
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L222[16:23:32] <packbart> humans are
easily scared. that's a problem, too
L223[16:26:00] <astolfo> packbart, do you
know any humans?
L224[16:28:23] <Mat2ch> ewww, humans, I
thought they went extinct?
L225[16:37:32] <packbart> fhtagn. I give
up on Kerbalism. it's just not my cup of bugs, I guess. it's fun
for short-duration single-mission games but really falls down hard
with multiple vessels on longer missions. and now it started
throwing NullRefs out of the blue
L226[16:38:12] <packbart> I almost made it
to Duna this time. well at least I got to Eve
L227[16:40:03] <packbart> maybe restarting
the game makes the NullRefs go away. something about crew count (on
an uncrewed vessel)
L228[16:42:16] <packbart> even before, I
had to cycle through vessels to remind their fuel cells to dump
excess water or else they would stop producing EC
L229[16:48:01] <flayer> it was a problem
for me too
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L231[16:57:45] <packbart> I probably could
just ignore the Minmus base that starts NullRefs whenever I try to
detach the rover and at least see the DunaScience probe reach
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L240[18:22:08] <darsie> KSP2 teaser
tonight?
L241[18:22:30] <Althego> why
L242[18:22:48] <darsie> 0 UTC
L243[18:23:25] <Althego> i fyou mean the
developer stream that happened sime 18 hours ago
L245[18:23:57] <darsie> ah
L246[18:24:06] <darsie> url?
L247[18:24:07] <Althego> and it was never
ksp2
L248[18:24:17] <darsie> ok
L250[18:25:42] <Althego> on witch
L251[18:25:45] <Althego> twitch
L252[18:25:54] <Althego> just not in the
garden tool section
L253[18:26:09] <darsie> I never
twitched.
L254[18:36:27] <raptop> Is horizon zero
dawn good?
L255[18:36:55] <raptop> hrm, gog's email
says that, but the website doesn't?
L256[18:37:11] <Althego> quite good
L257[18:37:41] <Althego> i wouldnt say it
is revolutionary or absolute best, but really good
L258[18:38:14] <Althego> just as soon as
you can get the hardpoint arrows and the triple shot skill
L259[18:40:58] <Althego> i also liked the
weapons from the dlc, really high alpha damage
L260[18:41:47] <raptop> ah
L261[18:55:58] <Althego> i struggled for a
while because i didnt have a purple bow. i avoided the main quest
for too long. with that i would have gotten to merchants with
purple stuff
L262[18:56:21] <Althego> purple bow:
hardpoint arrows. and the lack of triple shot was my
oversight
L263[18:57:09] <Althego> i somehow
struggled through a huge part of the dlc with the blue bows. when i
got the dlc weapons it was like wo hoo how easiy it is now
L264[18:59:29] <Althego> but i wasp laying
only on hard since it was my first try. it turned out that is not
too hard. there are 2 levels above that
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L266[19:06:35] <Althego> biggest drawback
of the game: constant struggle to have enough inventory slots for
looting
L267[19:07:15] <Althego> it would have
been enough to have quarter of the inventory slots, if there was
some kind of chest where you could put not immediately used but
important stuff
L268[19:07:38] <Althego> because i sure as
hell never going to try to find racoons again for some skin and
bones, once i have them i am keeping it
L269[19:08:01] <Althego> fish are so rare
in the early gme i didnt even know they existed
L270[19:09:58] <raptop> eep
L271[19:10:16] <raptop> Do you get stuck
with diablo-style inventory tetris?
L272[19:10:22] <Althego> no
L273[19:10:35] <raptop> yay
L274[19:10:42] <Althego> you can put more
of the same stuff from the same things in one slot, number
vaires
L275[19:10:55] <Althego> but even with the
hoarder skill (120 slots) i had problems
L276[19:11:12] <Althego> because 1 skin
and 1 bone still takes 2 slots
L277[19:11:27] <Althego> and all the
wildelife you randomly come through, sometimes drops these
L278[19:11:33] <Althego> so as i went
along shot stuff
L279[19:11:40] <Althego> because who knows
what it is going to be good for
L280[19:11:53] <Althego> and all rea good
for something
L281[19:12:17] <Althego> but when you want
an upgrade, you cant just conjure eacoon bones out of thin
air
L282[19:12:25] <Althego> you cant buy it,
however many shards you have
L283[19:12:31] <astolfo> What game
L284[19:12:43] <Althego> you have to find
it, hunt it down, and if you are lucky it is going to drop the
loot. most of the time not
L285[19:16:55] <Althego> astolfo: horizon
zero dawn
L286[19:17:27] <Althego> so anyway, you
end up carrying all this random junk because you might find some
weapon or something for which you are going to need an inventory
upgrade and that requires random animal stuff
L287[19:17:55] <Althego> otherwise i liked
the shoot down parts of the robots and even use the weapons against
them
L288[19:18:06] <Althego> mechanics
L289[19:18:30] <astolfo> The game looks
pretty
L290[19:18:48] <Althego> the character
closeups looked amazing
L291[19:18:59] <Althego> the environment
sometimes was breathtaking
L292[19:19:03] <astolfo> Nice
landscapes
L293[19:19:19] <astolfo> Does the
walking/exploration feel "claustrophobic" or
"inviting"?
L294[19:19:31] <astolfo> For example
Oblivion is very "inviting"
L295[19:19:41] <Althego> one i was
climbing around the frozen wilds, and it was night, i saw the moon
shine on some fog, i had to stop for seconds just to watch it
L296[19:20:49] <Althego> i never played
oblivion. how can exploration be claustrophobic?
L297[19:20:54] <astolfo> The tones feel a
bit too colorful for my liking
L298[19:20:56] <astolfo> Althego, as
in
L299[19:21:14] <astolfo> Sometimes game
devs "half ass" it and essentially are selling you a
railroaded experience
L300[19:21:30] <astolfo> Other times, it
is legitimately meant to let you walk and climb anywhere
L301[19:21:36] <Althego> only the main
quest is a railroad, but you can do whatever you want
L302[19:21:48] <astolfo> I meant the
exploration
L303[19:22:27] <astolfo> Like sometimes
you can see the cheap tricks in use that ruin immersion
L304[19:22:33] <Althego> in a few cases i
got a message that said i cant go there or aloy said something
along those lines
L305[19:22:36] <astolfo> Such as the use
of nodal points and so on
L306[19:22:48] <astolfo> Althego, the only
places I would prefer that being said is extreme edge of map
L307[19:23:17] <astolfo> As I said, using
the example of Oblivion
L308[19:23:19] <Althego> there or in
specific cases where the game wanted me to solve an issue instead
of climbing on the mountins
L309[19:23:21] <astolfo> It is truly meant
for roaming
L310[19:23:27] <astolfo> If your athletics
permits you can go anywhere
L311[19:23:30] <astolfo> jump from
anywhere
L312[19:23:43] <astolfo> You are free to
die from jumping from too high etc
L313[19:23:46] <Althego> you are quite
athletic here too
L314[19:23:53] <astolfo> No
L315[19:23:57] <astolfo> Athletics is a
stat in Oblivion
L316[19:23:58] <Althego> can climb a lot
of places, with almost vertical cliffs
L317[19:24:14] <astolfo> You choose to
level it or not as per your wish
L318[19:24:16] <Althego> the drawback here
skills almost give you nothing here
L319[19:24:23] <Althego> most development
are in the weapons you can get
L320[19:24:36] <Althego> ad the farther
you go from the stareting area, the better they get
L321[19:24:44] <astolfo> I have been
getting more and more sick of fake choices and cheap tricks in
video games
L322[19:24:56] <astolfo> I really want to
get the trve kvlt experience of Morrowind now
L323[19:25:40] <astolfo> The nice thing
about Morrowind is that it has no gps and starts with an empty
map
L324[19:26:04] <astolfo> No fucking quest
arrows or anything
L325[19:26:15] <Althego> wrong word
L326[19:26:21] <Althego> (backseat
modding)
L327[19:26:24] <astolfo> Listen to the
descriptions of landmarks given to you and find your way
yourself
L328[19:26:25] <astolfo> Oh, sorry
L329[19:26:36] <Althego> you have uest
markers here
L330[19:26:51] <Deddly> Althego is on the
ball :)
L331[19:26:51] <astolfo> Yeah
unfortunately thats a thing even in Oblivion and Skyrim
L332[19:26:52] <Althego> you get
descriptions too, but you get the markers on the map
L333[19:27:04] <astolfo> Yeah markers make
journal moot
L334[19:27:16] <astolfo> Oblivion has
quest arrows
L335[19:27:20] <astolfo> though still to a
lesser extent
L336[19:27:28] <astolfo> For example
"search" quests give you no hint
L337[19:27:34] <astolfo> You have to
search stuff yourself
L338[19:28:06] <astolfo> But still its
kind of modernized and claustrophobic still, even though its
leagues above most other games in this regard
L339[19:28:11] <astolfo> Morrowind offers
the trve kvlt experience
L340[19:28:22] <astolfo> Its great
L341[19:28:26] <astolfo> You are not given
any quest markers
L342[19:28:33] <astolfo> Just descriptions
of landmarks from npcs
L343[19:28:37] <astolfo> And npcs hate
talking to you too
L344[19:28:43] <astolfo> Making them talk
is a chore in itself
L345[19:28:50] <astolfo> Much better than
modernized games
L346[19:29:12] <astolfo> And you are free
to kill anyone
L347[19:29:22] <astolfo> Including people
that are key to the game story
L348[19:29:27] <Althego> hehe
L349[19:29:33] <Althego> i dont think you
can do that here
L350[19:29:53] <astolfo> Yeah its hard to
find games that offer a real trve kvlt rpg experience like
Morrowind these days
L351[19:30:52] <Althego> it had an
interesting world with a backstory, that reveals itself slowly
during the game. i liked the robots and the tactics you needed to
employ to kill them easily
L352[19:31:04] <astolfo> Althego, and
there is no "design engineering" or "rail
roading" about the descriptions or landmarks either.
Everything looks normal and there is nothing that marks quest
locations out as special to you.
L353[19:31:13] <Althego> most characters
were not too intersting. the wone i really wanted to kill i
couldnt
L354[19:31:37] <astolfo> Its a beautiful
game really. The dungeons are rather complex and murderous.
L355[19:31:44] <astolfo> No linear
dungeons
L356[19:32:08] <astolfo> Labyrinthine
dungeons full of things living, dead as well as non-living that
want to kill you
L357[19:32:10] <astolfo> Amazing
stuff
L358[19:32:15] <Althego> there are no
dungeuns, there are some places you can go, and those are quite
dumb
L359[19:32:26] <astolfo> And Morrowind
dungeons are a piece of cake compared to Daggerfall
L360[19:32:31] <astolfo> Daggerfall had
*real* dungeons
L361[19:32:42] <astolfo> People sometimes
spent weeks to complete a dungeon there
L362[19:32:49] <Althego> hehe
L363[19:32:53] <Althego> must have been
hard
L364[19:32:56] <astolfo> Yes
L365[19:33:09] <astolfo> Extremely complex
dungeons whose topology was programmatically generated
L366[19:33:19] <astolfo> So you can't use
your memory to solve a dungeon again that you have solved
before
L367[19:33:33] <astolfo>
Excruciating
L368[19:33:47] <astolfo> Its like crushing
death-doom metal incarnated in video game form
L369[19:35:28] <astolfo> Althego,
Morrowind is one of the few real rpgs
L370[19:35:37] <astolfo> Its amazing
stuff
L371[19:35:52] <Althego> dont expect any
of that for hzd
L372[19:35:53] <raptop> The random
generation was in the design phase, layouts are fixed (though the
quest items can be in any of a bunch of locations)
L373[19:36:12] <astolfo> I have yet to
play Daggerfall myself so I might be wrong a bit yes
L374[19:36:13] <raptop> Also, note that
one of the more popular daggerfall unity mods shrinks most dungeons
to being about the size of privateer's hold
L375[19:36:27] <raptop> Because they
were... rather too large
L376[19:36:49] <Althego> played a lot of
dungeons of moria back in the day. i liked how each scroll, potion
and basically anything was random generated so you never knew what
they did
L377[19:37:08] <astolfo> I'd love the
feeling of genuine excruciating crawl through a dungeon and a real
feeling of finally coming out into the sun after blood and pain and
near death experiences
L378[19:37:18] <astolfo> In Oblivion
dungeons seem too easy and mechanical
L379[19:37:47] <astolfo> and have very
little non-linearity to them
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L381[19:38:28] <astolfo> raptop, next
steps for me are Morrowind and Daggerfall
L382[19:40:18] <raptop> hm
L383[19:40:38] <Althego> maybe after i
retire i get to play these classics
L384[19:40:50] <astolfo> raptop, when did
you play Daggerfall?
L385[19:41:10] <raptop> Uh, on and off as
a kid and at various points in the past few years
L386[19:41:32] <astolfo> How many of the
endings have you finished?
L387[19:41:41] <astolfo> If I remember
right, it had multiple outcomes
L388[19:41:55] <raptop> never got to the
endings >_>
L389[19:42:24] <astolfo> Daggerfall would
be fun. The stereotype goes that bretons are the most
courtly/political of the races.
L390[19:42:43] <astolfo> And I have heard
there are multiple possible endings with this in mind.
L391[19:45:25] <astolfo> raptop, though
perhaps the trve kvlt elements in olbivion and skyrim are reduced,
you have to say they are very atmospheric and gorgeous
L392[19:46:15] <astolfo> raptop, did
daggerfall have vampirism
L393[19:46:53] <astolfo> It seems it
did
L394[19:47:52] <raptop> yeah, daggerfall
and vampirism and werewolves/wereboars
L395[19:47:56] <raptop> s/and/had/
L396[19:48:06] <astolfo> Boars?
L397[19:48:09] <astolfo> Pigs or
bears?
L398[19:48:15] <raptop> pigs
L399[19:48:24] <astolfo> Interesting
L400[19:48:49] <astolfo> I love their
art
L401[19:49:11] <astolfo> The werewolf is
very beautiful too
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L405[20:51:56] <Althego> hmm tech
ingredients rocket engines
L406[20:52:12] <Althego> not that i would
try to build any, i would just explode with it
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