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bpm
L4[00:18:24] <darsie> My nerv will only go
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L5[00:19:59] <darsie> pushing a class I
comet with 23 kN. I must be crazy.
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L8[00:24:57] <umbralraptop> 4x timewarp, and
watch a movie?
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L11[00:37:45] <darsie> Pushing an asteroid
has been unstable at >2x.
L12[00:38:05] <darsie> Oscillations,
misalignment, turning
L13[00:38:21] <cirith_ungol> darsie, what
is your opinion on Hell Awaits and Reign in Blood?
L14[00:38:30] <darsie> Maybe I'll let it
run for a week at 1x
L15[00:40:48] <cirith_ungol> darsie, I
think they were ahead of even bands like Death, Posessed,
Merciless, etc
L16[00:41:09] <cirith_ungol>
*Possessed
L17[00:41:18] <darsie> cirith_ungol: In
space nobody can hear Hell Awaits and Reign in Blood.
L18[00:41:42] <cirith_ungol> darsie, in
your ship everyone can hear them
L20[01:19:28] <darsie> Ahh, Convertotron
125 says max cooling 75 kW.
L21[01:19:35] <darsie> in the VAB
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L34[04:11:34] <Althego> and the 7th launch
moves each day. move towards midnight each time
L35[04:14:55] <darsie> I thought stuff
inside fairings wouldn't be simulated, but I had it swaying out of
the fairing.
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L37[04:15:49] <Althego> there used to be an
automatic autostrut there to prevent this. maybe that behavior was
changed
L38[04:20:57] <umbralraptop> I feel like
fairings have had a lot of physics bugs
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L41[04:42:34] *
darsie added struts. Not cheating with autostruts ;)
L42[04:43:01] <darsie> Caught Jeb before
take off.
L43[04:43:22] <Althego> always sneaks in to
every capsule :)
L44[04:43:59] <Althego> scott
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L46[05:28:20] <minas_tirith> Althego,
orkish in Finnish
L47[05:28:31] <Althego> what
L48[05:30:07] <umbralraptop> No, Sindarin
is Finnish
L49[05:30:12] <umbralraptop> (Quenyan is
Latin)
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L51[05:30:31] <Althego> i can only speak
some swear words in finnish
L52[05:30:53] <minas_tirith> umbralraptop,
I meant I was curious how finns would speak black speech via their
own tongue
L53[05:31:31] <umbralraptop> hrm
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L55[05:51:43] <minas_tirith> Lyneira,
hewwo
L56[05:52:46] <minas_tirith> umbralraptop,
the finnish has an interesting way of combining multiple words into
a single word
L57[05:53:09] <Althego> many languages do
that
L58[05:55:07] <umbralraptop> Obviously this
means that Finnish and Sumerian are related
L59[05:56:36] <Althego> lol
L60[05:57:04] <Althego> you dont know how
many people believe hungarian and sumerian are related
L61[05:59:42] *
umbralraptop has heard people joke that martians actually live on
earth, but they prefer to be called hungarians
L62[06:02:27] <Althego> there is a book
about that. probably hungarian only. i could translate the title as
arrival of the martians. about martians trying to destroy human
civilization by trying to invent nuclear fission and fusion
bombs
L63[06:02:39] <Althego> or at least half
jokingly it is the story about those
L64[06:02:50] <Althego> (the bombs)
L65[06:03:24] <Althego> because they
couldnt speak english clearly they decided to pretend to be
hungarians
L66[06:05:35] <umbralraptop> hah
L68[06:15:21] <Althego> thunderf00t is
dissecting hyperloop again. at this point it is deader than
dinosaur bones. yet the idea refuses to go away
L69[06:15:51] <Althego> ah that reminds me,
i have to check what is happening on flat earth
L70[06:16:58] <umbralraptop> I'd like to
see a dissection of possibly solveable tranist problems like what
makes it almost impossible to run >2 buses/hour along a given
route
L71[06:17:19] <Althego> it isnt
L72[06:18:20] *
umbralraptop knows of only one route in the DC metro area with
3/hour, and that's eventually going to be replaced by a
subway
L73[06:20:43] <Althego> hehe wanted to link
an example. got 502 from cloudflare. this is totally funny
L74[06:22:56] <umbralraptop> see!
L75[06:43:31] <deadmind>
<minas_tirith> umbralraptop, the finnish has an interesting
way of combining multiple words into a single word < tbh, while
Finnish and especially Hungarian are more complicated than most, i
think this is more the norm than the weird 'detached words floating
about separately in space' way that English uses to modify
meaning
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L77[06:45:28] <deadmind> as someone who
learned English as a second language and remember staring at the
words in a sentence and being baffled at how they would add up to
the meaning that that sentence ostensibly had, i am still
frequently amazed at how much English relies on rote learning of
unconnected idioms and phrases
L78[06:46:41] <deadmind> i think that's the
workaround for the missing agglutination that for some reason
didn't carry over from German :)
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L84[08:48:49] <Mat2ch> Althego: I hate
thunderfoot exactly for that. With this attitude we'd probably
never had smartphones or phones at all.
L85[08:49:33] <Mat2ch> There is no
alternative to a hyperloop system. Air travel will be restricted
heavily in the next 10 years. People don't seem to be able to grasp
how hard climate change will hit us.
L86[08:51:38] <Althego> high speed train.
without the vacuum
L87[08:52:51] <Althego> also with better
batteries: electric planes. since a turbofan mostly generates
thrust by the fan already, you just need to replace the jet with an
electric motor
L88[08:53:37] <darsie> hydrogen, methane or
ammonia fuel cells.
L89[08:53:54] <Althego> i am not a fan of
hydrogen fuel cells
L90[08:54:28] <Althego> how is methane
going to be carbon neutral?
L91[08:55:04] <darsie> If it's made from
biomatter or CO2.
L92[08:55:39] <deadmind> Mat2ch why would
hyperloop be necessary? it's an unproven proposed system that
doesn't even win against established and simpler systems on
paper
L93[08:55:58] <deadmind> why not just build
shit that is cheaper and has been working for decades?
L94[08:56:08] <deadmind> e.g. high speed
rail
L95[08:56:29] <darsie> Because it's slower
and has higher losses.
L96[08:57:04] <darsie> There are maglev
trains. Just put them in vacuum tubes.
L97[08:57:07] *
TheKosmonaut has detected a violation in the morality code for
#KSPOfficial
L98[08:57:20] <TheKosmonaut> deadmind: you
have been fined 30 credits
L99[08:57:57] <TheKosmonaut> Please send
payment posthaste to the Ministry of Morals.
L100[08:59:07] <deadmind> if we're talking
about the hypothetical best-case scenario for hyperloop, sure, but
as far as I know there still is no easy/cheap solution to get an
actual evacuated tube on any sort of real world distances. IF you
can get that working cheaper than just building a regular ass train
and paying for rolling resistance and drag loss instead of air
pumping loss then hyperloop would be allright
L101[09:00:02] <deadmind> TheKosmonaut: oh
no! :D -- also what, is it amoral to not bandwagon the hyperloop
idea in here?
L102[09:02:03] <TheKosmonaut> You have
violated KSP COMMUNITY GUIDELINE 2.2 (g) WHICH STATES: "Use of
vulgarity, profanity, parts thereof (S***) and any technique that
bypasses the language filter to post vulgar or profane
content;"
L103[09:02:11] <TheKosmonaut> Hyperloop
bandwagoning... Searching
L104[09:02:29] <TheKosmonaut> There is no
such rule in the KSP COMMUNITY GUIDELINES
L105[09:02:48] *
TheKosmonaut retracts hardpoints and continues cruising in
witchspace
L106[09:04:47] <Mat2ch> deadmind: because
people will always compare the current system to planes. Means: We
need trains that go as fast as planes. But we need to conserve
energy as well, so highspeed trains that go 700 km/h won't be a
thing.
L107[09:04:56] <deadmind> oh. dang. i
apologize, i totally timewarped through that maneuver :D
L108[09:05:57] <Althego> they dont need to
go as fast as planes
L109[09:06:08] <Althego> provided you dont
need 2 hours to finally get on them
L110[09:06:16] <Althego> with useless
security checks
L111[09:06:34] <Mat2ch> and for hyperloop
you don't need a vacuum, but a low pressure tube. And you can keep
that low pressure, if you design in locks
L112[09:06:53] <deadmind> Mat2ch: where
does the 700 kmh need come from, though? people comparing it to
planes on Twitter does not matter, it's a transit system not a
political platform. when viewed as an engineer, even IF air travel
was your direct target and we were talking strictly long-distance
here, you wouldn't need anywhere near 700 km/h to be better than
planes
L113[09:07:02] <Althego> that low pressure
is around martian levels, basically vacuum for any normal
person
L114[09:07:51] <deadmind> most plane
journeys average WAY less than that, in fact in many cases you
wouldn't even need "high-speed" rail to beat planes
L115[09:08:36] <Mat2ch> smaller capsules
also means: Smaller tracks, more flexible routing AND: almost no
noise, so it's much easier to build this in urban areas
L116[09:09:26] <Mat2ch> And that's the
next mistake all of you are making. We don't need hyperloop for
travels below 300 km. We need it for the long jorneys, 1000 km and
above
L117[09:09:49] <Mat2ch> say you wanna go
from Europe to the US by train. How long would it take?
L118[09:10:11] <Althego> and how would you
do it?
L119[09:10:16] <Althego> hyperloop under
the sea?
L120[09:10:16] <Mat2ch> and yes, you have
to go the other way round, because there's no way we will build a
train line through the Atlantic ocean
L121[09:10:26] <deadmind> Mat2ch: the goal
isn't to make an engineering art piece though, doing whatever it
takes to make the idea possible. the goal is to provide a better
overall transit service to populations. in that race, a highly
security sensitive and expensive pressure-controlled tube carrying
low passenger count vehicles, would likely lose out to current
in-service transit systems (not high tech 'planned'
L122[09:10:27] <deadmind> ones) in most
cases
L123[09:11:15] <Mat2ch> What is
"high-tech" on hyperloop that isn't already high-tech on
a regular highspeed train?
L124[09:11:36] <Mat2ch> Sucking out the
air of a tube? Not high tech anymore.
L125[09:11:39] <deadmind> there's no way
we're going to build an underground tunnel through the Atlantic
ocean, if we did, the rail vs. hyperloop decision would be
comparatively small
L126[09:11:42] <Mat2ch> Having locks?
Nope.
L127[09:11:57] <Althego> vacuum in itself,
actually low vacuum is not high tech
L128[09:12:09] <Althego> now t ry doing it
for thousands of kms
L129[09:12:17] <Mat2ch> yeah, so
what?
L130[09:12:46] <deadmind> having 100s of
kms of highly secure pressure controlled infrastructure is
DECIDEDLY high tech compared to existing Victorian-era technology
that got some upgrades in the 80s to bring it up to "high
speed"
L131[09:12:52] <Mat2ch> you will have
stations on the way, where you can have pumps running, there's
enough space for solar panels on the track itself to power it,
etc.
L132[09:13:09] <deadmind> if for no other
reason that one has been functional for decades while the other is
not even proven to be feasible on paper
L133[09:13:31] <Mat2ch> uhm, you should
really get into the building and maintaining of high speed trains.
The rails aren't as easy as you think to build
L134[09:13:45] <Althego> even
transcontinental starship hooper seems to be a better idea
L135[09:13:54] <Althego> which also has
its problems
L136[09:13:59] <Mat2ch> .oO( ok, now
insert a joke about the Deutsche Bahn and functional for decades :D
)
L137[09:14:14] <Althego> at least DB
works
L138[09:14:22] <Althego> mostly
L139[09:14:31] <Althego> not like
máv
L140[09:14:38] <Althego> which is the
hungarian state railways
L141[09:15:19] <deadmind> Mat2ch: I don't
think high speed rail is cheap
L142[09:15:28] <deadmind> but we are
comparing it to hyperloop.
L143[09:15:53] <Mat2ch> Which is in an
early state of development and has several opportunities to make it
dirt cheap.
L144[09:16:18] <deadmind> a proven,
reliably replicated system that has high carrying capacity and
reliability in return for the relatively high maintenance cost and
high upfront cost
L145[09:16:47] <Mat2ch> Like the tube
itself: Can be extruded plastic tubes, which are fused
together.
L146[09:17:38] <Mat2ch> We have so much
plastic swimming in the oceans, we could build thousands of kms of
tube with it...
L147[09:18:41] <darsie> degraded plastic,
IMO.
L148[09:18:54] <Mat2ch> good enough to
make sunglasses out of it
L150[09:19:04] <Althego> it is like
prototyping vs production. anybody can make a prototype. bud making
it millions of times reliable is completely different. you can make
a "hyperloop" for few hundred meters. doing it for few
hundred kilometers is different. current experiments didnt even
need the vacuum, they were never that fast. so what is the
point
L151[09:19:10] <deadmind> so this isn't
high tech, but part of the reason for building it is that maybe it
could be cheaper if some current materials science ideas turn out
to be feasible? and then immediately scalable to super industrial
levels?
L152[09:19:50] <deadmind> compared to:
metallic rails like we used to do in the 1800s, but with tighter
tolerances
L153[09:20:06] <Mat2ch> If you start with
that attitude you will never create anything new, because you are
just judging by the upfront cost
L154[09:21:07] <Althego> not everything is
possible
L155[09:21:14] <deadmind> it's not a
question of attitude if the reason for dismissing it is technical
first and cost second.
L156[09:21:39] <Mat2ch> But it is possible
to build.
L157[09:21:47] <Mat2ch> The technology is
already there
L158[09:21:56] <Mat2ch> you just have to
"plug" the parts together
L159[09:22:38] <Mat2ch> linear motors are
not new, air pumps are not new, building tubes, go ask the Brits
about that
L160[09:22:58] <darsie> "New Austrian
tunneling method"
L161[09:23:03] <deadmind> i'd love it if
hyperloop was feasible, and would greatly prefer we build something
futuristic like that instead of just shit we've already done, but
engineering very specifically should be a land where feasibility
should trump how much we like the idea. and the more i think about
hyperloop as an engineer, the clearer it becomes that it makes no
sense at all. (again, this could change if
L162[09:23:03] <deadmind> some super high
tech materials science breakthrough happens)
L163[09:23:21] <Althego> caution, you used
another 4 letter word
L164[09:23:31] <Althego> a bit backseat
modding here
L165[09:23:52] <deadmind> lol damn. sorry,
i genuinely didn't notice
L166[09:23:55] <deadmind> not even sure
where it is lol
L167[09:24:14] *
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L168[09:24:19] <Mat2ch> deadmind: I'm an
engineer myself and I could probably build a functioning hyperloop
in my backyard. If I had a backyard big enough.
L169[09:24:47] <darsie> Subway tubes
withstand much more pressure than atmospheric.
L170[09:24:53] *
TheKosmonaut fires a tungsten rod across deadmind's
bow
L171[09:24:57] <deadmind> Mat2ch: i
imagine you're not talking about a 1000+ km backyard that has
millions of people needing transport services in it.
L172[09:25:05] <deadmind> otherwise you're
talking about building a prototype, not "a
hyperloop".
L173[09:25:10] <Althego> i said up her
nose not across it :)
L174[09:25:21] <Althego> who made this man
a gunner?
L175[09:25:50] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: it
isn't my fault ONI didn't give you a proper AI
L176[09:25:55] <Mat2ch> deadmind: that's
just a problem of the diameter of the tube and how many
"pods" you send through
L177[09:26:00] <deadmind> and we're
talking about hyperloop as a transit system vs. existing high speed
rail. if we're talking unfeasible, but possible, prototypes, we'd
be comparing to the 500+ km/h TGV trains from the 90s. (which, by
the way, despite being a prototype, actually carried more
passengers on those test runs at those speeds than would fit in a
theoretical hyperloop capsule :D )
L178[09:26:15] <TheKosmonaut> You wanna
try creating firing solutions in space? Lemme tell you-- it ain't
easy
L179[09:26:31] <deadmind> the diameter of
the tube is a MAJOR multiplier of almost every single aspect of the
cost though
L180[09:26:34] <Althego> it was a
spaceballs reference
L181[09:26:40] <Mat2ch> It is? Why?
L182[09:26:41] <deadmind> making it 10%
wider isn't going to make it just 10% more expensive
L183[09:27:15] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: so
far the references have been Elite: Dangerous, Halo, Space
Balls
L184[09:27:25] <TheKosmonaut> Something
else in there m sure
L185[09:27:26] <Althego> i noticed elite
ye
L186[09:27:31] <Althego> i never played
halo
L187[09:27:59] <deadmind> because it
completely changes around the equations for how you make that tube
strong enough for a given pressure if we're talking about a larger
diameter. then you also change all of the support structures for it
and their load bearing needs, you need to upgrade your other huge
cost center, the active pressure control
L188[09:28:04] <TheKosmonaut> Halo's main
shipboard weapon was the MAC which basically was a giant railgun
that shot big tungsten balls
L189[09:28:31] <Althego> that is how you
do it
L190[09:28:36] <Althego> also in
expanse
L191[09:28:48] <TheKosmonaut> Halo's
(human) weapons were pretty good
L192[09:29:00] <packbart> Luckily this
ain't no IETF mailing list where the general rule is "no
culturual references!"
L193[09:29:07] <Althego> hehe
L194[09:29:13] <TheKosmonaut> Nothing
beats Children of a Dead earth
L195[09:29:25] <TheKosmonaut> My favorite
hard sci-fi combat game
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L197[09:29:38] <TheKosmonaut> Boring as
hell to play though
L198[09:29:47] <Mat2ch> deadmind: your
calculation is off. If you increase the diameter the amount of
material you need increases linear, but your area increases by the
square
L199[09:30:25] <Mat2ch> and if you take a
dirt cheap stuff like extruded plastic tubes, it's not a real
factor.
L200[09:30:57] <darsie> gn
L201[09:31:00] <Mat2ch> the the pumps, yes
you need more or maybe have to run them longer, but with a well
designed lock system (which is nothing special today) there's not
much air going inside of the tube
L202[09:31:33] <Mat2ch> you need a bigger
linear actor, but that is due to the increased weight of the
train
L203[09:31:47] <Mat2ch> etc.
L204[09:32:13] <Mat2ch> as long as you
avoid building tunnels the costs will be linear with the
diameter.
L205[09:32:35] <deadmind> the amount of
material definitely does not scale linearly with the diameter, it's
not just about having enough to make "a tube", you're
talking about making a tube with the same extreme strength
constraints while making the diameter larger. that is definitely
going to be more than a simple linear scale-up
L206[09:32:49] <Mat2ch> the only reason
why hyperloop may be a failure is that people will oppose it,
because it's new
L207[09:33:20] <deadmind> i think that is
starkly in opposition to what we've seen so far
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L209[09:33:35] <Althego> people want the
hyperloop
L210[09:33:46] <Althego> even i say it is
cool. if it could exist
L211[09:33:47] <Mat2ch> Huh? I only see
people here who don't want it.
L212[09:34:05] <Althego> the problem is,
at least currently not feasible
L213[09:34:23] <deadmind> it was an idea
floated without any sort of serious effort behind it, and was
immediately swept into popularity *and has remained there for like
5+ years* without any sort of significant engineering validation of
its feasibility
L214[09:34:26] <Althego> it is like a
space elevator. cool on paper, not really doable
L215[09:34:29] <deadmind> that is what has
happened so far
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L217[09:35:09] <deadmind> if, say, a
construction consortium came out with a detailed actual plan to
build an actual hyperloop what they would get is an absolutely
immense flood of positive hype which is the opposite of what you
imply
L218[09:36:10] <deadmind> compared to:
some random construction consortium submits a proposal to create a
high speed rail line that accelerates an entire country's climate
commitments in a way that can reasonably be expected from day 1 to
work out.
L219[09:36:21] <deadmind> nobody cares.
some people complain because it isn't hyperloop.
L220[09:38:14] <deadmind> also see:
Starship, a pie in the sky idea with absolutely no certainty that
it will work at all. people freaking love it and are happy that it
is happening, even though they probably aren't currently being hurt
by the high Mars transit ticket prices
L221[09:40:11] <Althego> not really pie in
the sky. there are many possible issues with it. the raptor, the
steel as main material, even the heat shield tiles (i dread those,
remember the shuttle)
L222[09:40:20] <Althego> but maybe it can
work
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L224[09:41:29] <Althego> spacex showed at
least once that they can do something that nobody thought to be
possible
L225[09:41:32] <Mat2ch> They use the heat
shield tiles only because they are not allowed to use water vapor,
because that's a secret tech :P
L226[09:41:42] <Althego> secret tech
lol
L227[09:42:23] <Mat2ch> no, really, we
know about it, but nobody really knows how it works. It's an
engineering problem and if SpaceX solves that publicly...
L228[09:42:51] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
"that low pressure is around martian levels, basically vacuum
for any normal person" Althego Don't tell elongated muskrat
he'll be raving about a martian hyperloop next
L229[09:43:04] <Mat2ch> well, I have to
get to work. Saving one project at a time
L230[09:43:19] <Althego> luckily i
dont
L231[09:43:26] <Althego> (have to
work)
L232[09:43:41] <deadmind> lucky you
L233[09:44:21] <deadmind> also me neither,
took the week off. forgot i literally am legally required to not go
anywhere
L234[09:44:30] <Althego> hehe
L235[09:44:44] <deadmind> feels like just
a less stressful than usual week at work, a waste of vacation days
:(
L236[09:46:20] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
cue cabin fever by the muppets
L237[09:51:28] *
marcelinethevampirespleen found a kerbal named gilly
L238[09:52:11] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
I'm sure I know where to send her
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L241[10:24:10] <Althego> nice, but should
be black with ratio 1:4:9
L242[10:24:23] <Althego> for its
sides
L243[10:30:20] <Mat2ch> lol, someone is
screwing around there :D
L245[10:32:26] <Mat2ch> ok, I'm not a
StarWars fan, but this one is really funny :D
L246[10:32:53] <Mat2ch> and from 2018.
Ooooooooooold ;)
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L253[11:54:46] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
what are the implications of rigid attachment and should it be used
for lander/glider wings?
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L256[12:15:05] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
t o a s t
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L258[12:32:09] <Mat2ch> rigid attachment
means: No spaghetti for you
L259[12:32:43] <Mat2ch> so, depending on
how hard you wanna squeeze your Kerbals into their seats, switch it
on or off. :D
L260[12:33:02] <Mat2ch> Usually if you use
a low finite amount of wings for your glider you don't need
it.
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L268[13:59:37] <FLHerne> You can't be
serious and have a cat in your computer.
L269[14:00:16] <FLHerne> Even if it
apparently comes with a dedicated cat bay
L270[14:05:02] <Mostly_Deddly> Cats make
great heatsinks
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L274[14:15:26] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
speaking of heatsinks
L275[14:16:20] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
I think my cat actually did get into the computer area, because the
heat sink had 2 inches of the blades obstructed by dust and
fur
L276[14:16:46] <umaxtu> cat fur gets
everywhere
L277[14:18:08] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
cat fur is what caused the big bang
L278[14:18:47] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
overheated the last simulation
L279[14:19:14] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
or rather, the computer running the simulation
L280[14:20:25] <umaxtu> eh, it was GSD fur
that killed my last fridge
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L292[16:25:20] <FLHerne> Are you
sure?
L293[16:25:26] <FLHerne> They're floofy
and exothermic
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L295[16:30:46] <umbralraptop> FLOOF!
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L301[17:10:47] <Althego> better than
foof
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L304[17:16:25] ***
Ezriilc_ is now known as Ezriilc
L305[17:28:33] <FLHerne> ;mission add You
attempt to use FOOF as a rocket propellant.
L306[17:28:33] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
mission: You attempt to use FOOF as a rocket propellant.
L307[17:31:15] <Mat2ch> !mission
L308[17:31:15] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You
launch a harpoon-loaded comet lander. Everything goes as
planned.
L309[17:31:24] <Althego> that never
happened
L310[17:31:25] <Mat2ch> Unexpected.
L311[17:31:30] <Althego> out of that one
case at least
L312[17:31:41] <bees> ;outcome add Cat fur
is everywhere.
L313[17:31:41] <LunchBot> bees: Added
outcome: Cat fur is everywhere.
L314[17:32:05] <Althego> how many prefixes
fo we have?
L315[17:32:39] <bees> initial base was
scrapped from channel logs with some manual trimming
L316[17:32:41] <Mod9000> I keep channel
logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
L317[17:32:48] <bees> i'd say 70-90% of
original
L318[17:33:03] <Althego> no, i mean . !
and now ; too?
L319[17:33:31] <FLHerne> bees: Hm, if your
version is scraped, I'll get around to scraping mine in case they
don't intersect :p
L320[17:34:23] <FLHerne> Althego: `;` is
to match kmath's version
L321[17:35:15] <FLHerne> (`.` and `!` were
to match different iterations of nextlaunch, when it was just
!nextlunch)
L322[17:35:29] <FLHerne> And I decided it
might as well match all of them because why not.
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L324[18:07:01] <Althego> what, no
way
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L328[19:46:23] <Althego> wait a second,
why is there a test? i thought they cancelled two slots
L329[19:47:11] <Althego> road closed, but
who cares, at best it is happening in 4 hours
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L331[21:12:11] <Mat2ch> Althego: there's a
closure scheduled for today
L332[21:12:52] <Althego> a what about
it
L333[21:13:05] <Althego> i watch that and
i time skip after the 7th landing
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L335[21:13:20] <Althego> maybe after a
static fire too
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L337[21:21:26] <Althego> hmm rocketlab had
a closed press conference about the recovery. and a bunch of
youtubers were there
L338[21:22:00] <Althego> asked about the
hat lol
L339[21:24:06] <darsie> In German we eat
brooms.
L340[21:24:10] <darsie> instead of
hats.
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L352[22:43:27] <darsie> hmm
L353[22:44:26] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
;mission add You create a hyperdrive powered SSTO out of
genetically modified macaroni noodles
L354[22:44:26] <LunchBot>
marcelinethevampirespleen: Added mission: You create a hyperdrive
powered SSTO out of genetically modified macaroni noodles
L355[22:45:53] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
hmm you say\
L356[22:48:04] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
;outcome add you find yourself feeling floofy, and exothermic
L357[22:48:05] <LunchBot>
marcelinethevampirespleen: Added outcome: you find yourself feeling
floofy, and exothermic
L358[23:11:41] <FLHerne> ^ please
capitalize missions/outcomes if they're supposed to be
L359[23:12:10] <FLHerne> (they can't be
auto-capitalized because some use people's nicks etc. which are
intentionally lowercase)
L360[23:12:18] <FLHerne> I've corrected
that one
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L363[23:30:51] <umbralraptop> ;mission add
You decide to eat launch instead of launching.
L364[23:31:00] <umbralraptop> right
L365[23:34:51] <FLHerne> Sorry, I'm just
tinkering with it
L366[23:35:16] <umbralraptop> It's
fine
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L368[23:36:13] <FLHerne> Perhaps that
should be ...lunching?
L369[23:38:42] <umbralraptop> yeah