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L31[04:46:33] <TheKosmonaut> Anyone here
tried out Mars Horizons yet?
L32[04:47:11] <Althego> i would if it was
on gog
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L63[10:20:12] <minas_tirith> UmbralRaptor,
he has an excellent nose
L64[10:20:15] <minas_tirith> Dylan
Carlson
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L78[11:01:36] <Deddly> chanlog
L79[11:01:37] <Mod9000> I keep channel logs
here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
L81[11:02:15] <Althego> nothing happened
for the past 8 hours
L82[11:02:32] <Mat2ch> nope
L83[11:02:38] <Mat2ch> static fire maybe
today for SN8
L84[11:02:43] <Mat2ch> but that'll take
hours
L85[11:03:19] <Mat2ch> Window starts in 4
hours and then it'll take at least 3 hours until static fire
L86[11:03:22] <Althego> sadly the launch
date moved something like 15 minutes forward tomorrow. while i was
kind of ok with waking up at 3:50, around 3:35 i am not
L87[11:03:24] <Mat2ch> and they're still
working on it
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L92[12:26:51] ***
minas_tirith is now known as cirith_ungol
L93[12:27:50] <cirith_ungol> Hi
Fluburtur
L94[12:35:04] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur doesn't
talk to us anymore :(
L95[12:37:13] <Althego> (local) leet
time
L96[12:38:09] <cirith_ungol> Mat2ch, what
happened?
L97[12:38:12] <cirith_ungol> Althego,
hewwo
L98[12:39:15] <Mat2ch> cirith_ungol: not
sure
L99[12:39:18] <Mat2ch> we got uncool or
so
L100[12:40:17] <Deddly> He does talk
sometimes
L101[12:40:20] <Althego> or maybe he felt
that he was offing too much with his build projectsd
L103[12:45:28] <Mat2ch> I never cared
about that.
L104[12:45:34] <Mat2ch> we're off topic
all the time here :D
L106[12:45:45] <Althego> at least
something is happening
L107[12:47:23] <Mat2ch> Deddly: uh, when
was the last the Fluburtur said something?
L109[12:48:28] <Mat2ch> the bass is...
bassy
L110[12:48:30] <Mat2ch> woah
L112[12:48:37] <Deddly> Not in my
backscroll. Maybe a couple of months ago
L113[12:48:56] <Althego> hehe
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L116[13:07:57] <Deddly> Nothing like a bit
of rock joik
L117[13:08:06] <cirith_ungol> joik?
L118[13:08:56] <Deddly> Joik is a special
kind of singing from northern Scandinavia. It doesn't contain
words. Instead, they "paint" an idea with sounds
L119[13:10:05] <Deddly> Think of it like
using paints to make a picture - anyone can see the the picture, no
matter what language they speak. That's the idea with joik - sounds
and emotions recreate a scene or an object
L120[13:12:26] <Deddly> Probably the most
famous modern one is Daniel's Joik by Jon Henrik Fjällgren. All you
need to know is that his childhood friend named Daniel died and you
understand the entire song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL9_INg9u-E
L121[13:12:45] <cirith_ungol> well duh
thats just music in general
L122[13:12:59] <cirith_ungol> Using the
throat as a keyboard or similar
L123[13:13:04] <cirith_ungol> The same
idea is used in death metal
L124[13:13:12] <cirith_ungol> But of
course the guitar is the primary instrument there
L125[13:13:37] <Deddly> I suppose you
could say that. Joik is a particular style.
L126[13:13:55] <cirith_ungol> Words are
irrelevant to music, its the melody that counts
L127[13:14:21] <Deddly> Not to all
music
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L129[13:14:35] <Deddly> Some songs use
words as poetry
L130[13:14:47] <cirith_ungol> I could sing
complete nonsense but if its the same melody then its the same
song
L131[13:15:39] <Deddly> I get what you're
saying but I can't fully agree with you. You can't take a Weird Al
Yankovich song and claim it's the same as the original
L132[13:15:58] <Deddly> The meaning is
completely distorted (deliberately so)
L133[13:18:33] <Deddly> But I don't think
I described it clearly. It's not just that it's a piece of music.
Someone sitting on a mountain seeing a spectacular sunset might
spontaneously come up with a joik, and by singing, they say they
are "joiking" that sunset, recreating it in song. As far
as I know, that is unique to joik
L134[13:19:15] <Deddly> In other cultures,
you sing
about something.
L135[13:19:19] <cirith_ungol> Thats all
music, again
L136[13:19:49] <cirith_ungol> However I
commend the joikers in attempting to use the actual sounds to
create the vibe of an object or feeling
L137[13:20:03] <cirith_ungol> In this
sense, again, it becomes very similar to death metal and black
metal
L138[13:20:16] <cirith_ungol> Such a
simple and intuitive idea yet somehow 99% of music misses it
L139[13:21:02] <Deddly> Again, I disagree
that this is true of all music
L140[13:22:05] <Deddly> It's quite
possible that certain types of metal attempt to do the same thing,
I hadn't considered that
L141[13:22:07] <cirith_ungol> You would
see I modified my statement a bit
L142[13:23:05] <cirith_ungol> As I said I
consider "words" irrelevant, its the actual melodies and
soundshaping that matter to me. So lyrics are meaningless, its the
actual soundshaping that should sound like say a sunset. You can
write lyrics about glaciers or whatever, but if it has a sunset
melody thats the thing that matters principally.
L143[13:24:01] <cirith_ungol> Such
soundshaping imo does not fit with the rigid staticity of rock
much, something with a more "thematic structure" like
black or death metal is more suited
L144[13:24:24] <cirith_ungol> ie fitting
the structure to the theme rather than fitting the theme to a
static structure
L145[13:25:36] <Deddly> I think it lends
itself especially to things that induce a strong emotional
response
L146[13:26:10] <cirith_ungol> Naturally,
elemental things like storms, death etc are a better fit
L147[13:27:27] <Deddly> I do recommend
Daniel's joik if you didn't click
L148[13:27:59] <cirith_ungol>
bookmarked
L149[13:28:26] <Deddly> Nice
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L154[14:02:21] <Althego> !road
L155[14:02:22] <Kerbot> Althego =>
Primary; Nov 23, 2020; 9:00 am to 9:00 pm; Cancelled | Secondary;
Nov 24, 2020; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Cancelled | Secondary; Nov 25,
2020; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Scheduled | Primary; Nov 30, 2020; 7:00
am to 6:00 pm; Scheduled | Secondary; Dec 1, 2020; 8:00 am to 5:00
pm; Scheduled | Secondary; Dec 2, 2020; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm;
Scheduled
L156[14:02:26] <Althego> cancelled
L157[14:02:29] <Althego> dont wait for
it
L158[14:02:54] <umaxtu> when did that
feature get added?
L159[14:03:24] <cirith_ungol> ksp and
spacex are the same channel confirmed
L160[14:03:30] <Althego> lol
L161[14:03:49] <umaxtu> quite a bit of
overlap in #factorio as well
L162[14:04:03] <Althego> i am not there on
spacex
L163[14:04:10] <Althego> i think i went
there once
L164[14:04:22] <umaxtu> too much weebery
for you?
L165[14:04:29] <Althego> hehe that reminds
me of grumpy cat. i had fun once. it was awful
L166[14:05:32] <Althego> also cancelled
for tomorrow. so something might happen thrusday before dawn in
europe
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L168[14:05:47] <cirith_ungol> Althego,
flesh from bone
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L170[14:09:05] <Judge_Dedd>
!nextlunch
L171[14:09:18] <Althego> i have nela
instead
L172[14:09:19] <Althego> !nela
L174[14:09:31] <Althego> because i dont
want to type as much
L175[14:09:37] <packbart> and the other
thingy uses . instead of ! I think
L176[14:10:01] <packbart> so many
different UI styles... ;)
L177[14:10:12] <packbart> .nextlunch
L178[14:10:21] <packbart> hmno, it went
away
L179[14:10:24] <Althego> as usual no
stream for a chinese launch
L180[14:10:35] <cirith_ungol> Why?
L181[14:10:40] <Althego> yes it hasnt been
working for quite a while
L182[14:12:52] <Judge_Dedd> I need
lunch
L184[14:13:19] <cirith_ungol> Judge_Dedd,
I want some milk
L185[14:13:23] <cirith_ungol> My coffee
grows cold
L187[14:14:49] <Althego> i dont get it.
but it is probably about milk. or not
L188[14:15:10] <Judge_Dedd> I have that
problem all the time but never enough sweet disks
L189[14:15:30] <cirith_ungol> I tend to
run out of creamy fluid first
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L191[14:16:12] <Althego> this is a hole
series of planets
L192[14:16:16] <Althego> er comics
L194[14:16:23] <Althego> but i dont get
them at all
L195[14:16:55] *
cirith_ungol pounces on Althego
L197[14:20:30] <Althego> the road command
was added about two weeks ago. which seems unbelievable. i thought
it was a few days
L198[14:21:50] <cirith_ungol> Althego,
he's a good boi
L199[14:21:58] <Judge_Dedd> Nice bouncy
fox
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L208[15:24:51] <FLHerne> Hm
L209[15:25:40] <cirith_ungol> FLHerne,
hi
L210[15:25:51] <Althego> no head
modularity here :)
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L212[15:28:47] <FLHerne> .nextlunch
L213[15:28:47] <LunchBot> Avocado chicken
salad
L214[15:28:49] <FLHerne> Fixed it
L215[15:29:28] <FLHerne> (I never got
around to adding a systemd unit, so it was just running in `screen`
and went away when I rebooted the server...)
L216[15:29:38] <FLHerne> But now it has
one
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L218[15:34:53] <FLHerne> packbart: You can
get lunch now :-)
L219[15:35:52] <UmbralRaptor> .help
L220[15:36:47] <UmbralRaptor> bah
L221[15:37:32] <cirith_ungol> FLHerne, do
you have gui on the server?
L222[15:43:28] <FLHerne> No
L223[15:43:54] <FLHerne> (what would a
server want a gui for?)
L224[15:44:06] <flayer> to graphically
interface with the user
L225[15:44:25] <FLHerne> Well, if websites
count, then I suppose yes
L226[15:45:28] <bees> FLHerne: You attempt
to ascend from Jool's surface. And everyone was run over by a space
bus driven by the kraken.
L227[15:46:12] <Althego> bees. so there
must be bee's knees here too :)
L228[15:46:37] <FLHerne> ;mission
L229[15:46:41] <Althego> no
L230[15:46:44] <FLHerne> No, that's
gone
L231[15:46:57] <Althego> i think we dont
even have the data
L232[15:47:32] <FLHerne> Do we need
another one?
L233[15:47:49] <bees> FLHerne: You try to
build a spinning ring ship after seeing Interstellar. Structural
failure occurs on the linkage between Jebediah Kerman and EAS-1
External Command Seat.
L234[15:48:02] <Althego> hehe
L235[15:48:23] <FLHerne> bees: Do *you*
have a copy of it, or are you just making up convincing
examples?
L236[15:49:16] <FLHerne> If not, I guess a
lot of it could be restored from grepping IRC logs :p
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L241[15:59:49] <cirith_ungol> FLHerne,
yopu said something about screens
L242[15:59:57] <Althego> no
L243[16:00:07] <Althego> standard program
screen
L244[16:00:10] <Althego> it is a consol
thig
L245[16:00:11] <Althego> n
L247[16:00:57] <cirith_ungol> oh
L248[16:01:05] <cirith_ungol> so its a way
to open multiple terminals in text mode
L249[16:01:08] <Althego> tmux is similar
but newer
L250[16:01:16] <Althego> it also keeps
them open even if you log out
L251[16:01:29] <Althego> so you can easily
run programs as a service in them
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L254[16:39:16] <bees> FLHerne: You create
a space station in the shape of a giant green eyeball. Not even
Scott Manley can save you now.
L255[16:39:53] <Althego> hehe
L256[16:54:31] <Althego> there was an
other outcome i liked: the neutrino flux alone is lethal
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L265[18:40:59] <FLHerne> That was the plot
of some terrible disaster movie
L266[18:41:18] <FLHerne> Something goes
horribly wrong, and what's the danger?
L267[18:41:57] <FLHerne> Gamma rays? No.
Magnetic flux? No. Neutrinos.
L268[18:42:33] <darsie> I'd need 16600 m/s
dv for the direct route to the comet.
L269[18:42:52] <darsie> from orbit.
L270[18:44:41] <umbralraptop> FLHerne: I'm
95% certain that I added the neutrino outcome, and blatantly stole
it from that one xkcd
L271[18:44:51] <umbralraptop> darsie:
sounds realistic
L272[18:48:50] <packbart> "an exotic
new type of neutrinos from a huge solar flare are heating Earth's
core" - that was "2012"
L273[18:49:04] <Althego> hehe
L274[18:49:33] <packbart> I don't remember
the name of another book I audio-read lately. something about
"Neutralinos" or such
L275[18:50:13] <packbart>
"Sunfall" by Jim Al-Khalili
L276[18:50:18] <packbart> that was it. I
liked it
L277[18:51:25] <umbralraptop> Sounds
almost like the sort of thing you'd find in a Stephen Baxter
novel
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L279[18:53:24] <packbart> the plot was
that the earth's magnetic field was fading. the solution involved
pumping charged neutrinos down a hole into the core. or something
like that. it was just a plot device, I guess
L280[18:53:51] <Althego> charged
neutrinos
L281[18:53:57] <Althego> because of
magnetic field
L282[18:54:12] <umbralraptop> o_O
L284[18:54:52] <umbralraptop> not to be
confused with sneutrinos
L285[18:54:57] <Althego> nobody has found
supersymmetry yet
L286[18:55:49] <packbart> they had a
device to create neutralinos from neutrinos. maybe I should listen
to it again. I'm currently on a mixed Charles Stross run
L287[18:56:23] <packbart> or was that
neutrons? so many neustuffs
L288[18:56:35] <darsie> I could try to
refuel on Minmus, dive down to Kerbin and Oberth to the
comet.
L289[18:57:24] <darsie> Get a cheap plane
change to polar high up, too.
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L291[19:00:08] <packbart> They should make
a planet called Oberth in KSP 2, just to confuse people ;)
L292[19:00:30] <umbralraptop> With the
tallest mountain being named "Lagrange Point"
L293[19:00:35] <Althego> hehe
L294[19:00:52] <Althego> there are no
geographical points on the maps normally
L295[19:00:55] <Althego> aside from
missions
L296[19:00:59] <Althego> there it would
fit
L297[19:01:52] <flayer> just make it a
mini biome
L298[19:02:00] <darsie> :)
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L301[19:25:02] <Althego> wait a sec, this
is chang'e 5, going to the moon
L303[19:25:50] <Althego> i didnt really
look at it previously because chinese rockets usually dont have
streams
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L305[19:58:23] <flayer> i wonder if the
chinese reporter sounds as nerdy as the american ones
L306[19:58:45] <cirith_ungol> flayer,
space is scary
L307[19:59:02] <flayer> so's your
face
L308[19:59:25] <cirith_ungol> flayer,
space is an infinite void
L309[19:59:45] <flayer> you're mom's got
an infinite void
L310[19:59:53] <flayer> your*
L311[20:00:51] <cirith_ungol> flayer,
humans are finite
L312[20:00:54] <cirith_ungol> Space is
infinite
L313[20:01:10] <flayer> i think humans can
become infinite as well
L314[20:01:20] <flayer> we should spread
across the cosmos like a great plague
L315[20:01:29] <flayer> harvest every
planet of its resources
L316[20:01:32] <flayer> every asteroid
field
L317[20:01:38] <flayer> capture every
sun
L318[20:05:22] <Althego> given enough time
we might
L319[20:05:45] <Althego> very much depends
on the next few hundred years
L320[20:06:14] <flayer> and the tens of
thousand of years after that
L321[20:06:19] <Althego> how do the
americans sound nerdy?
L322[20:06:35] <Althego> maybe we still
have not passed the great filter
L323[20:11:24] <Althego> interesting, it
is a sample return
L324[20:13:07] <umbralraptop> Does the
Great Filter conform to N95 standards?
L325[20:13:29] <Althego> by the looks of
the galaxy it has 100% efficiency
L326[20:14:00] <umbralraptop> ow
L328[20:16:40] <Althego> i am getting
sleepy. i woke up at 3:50 for the 7th launch of that rocket
L329[20:16:45] <Althego> and it didnt
happen
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L332[20:19:40] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
I've asked before but how do I find advnaced tweakables I went
through the entire settings menu
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L334[20:20:10] <Althego> i assure you it
is there. but you can change it during normal play too from the
options menu
L335[20:20:31] <Althego> it is a
relatively new additions
L336[20:20:32] <umbralraptop> It's in
there somewhere, I'll poke you if I see it
L337[20:20:32] <Althego> -s
L338[20:20:47] <flayer>
marcelinethevampirespleen, under the camera wobbles
L339[20:20:51] <Althego> i am starting the
game, but you know how slowly it loads
L340[20:21:12] <flayer> above the 'default
throttle' - in the general settings screen
L341[20:21:19] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
very lol
L342[20:21:27] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
and yeah not there
L343[20:21:40] <Althego> what version are
you on?
L344[20:21:46] <Althego> less than 10
minutes
L345[20:22:36] <cirith_ungol> Hi
marcelinethevampirespleen
L346[20:22:52] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
heya
L347[20:23:02] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
10.1?
L348[20:23:12] <cirith_ungol>
marcelinethevampirespleen, the spleen is an interesting organ
L349[20:23:23] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
shared horizons it says
L350[20:23:45] <flayer>
marcelinethevampirespleen, are you opening the settings from the
main menu immediately after loading, or while in the kerbal space
center?
L351[20:23:59] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
immediately
L352[20:24:18] <flayer> well i give up i'm
going to bed
L353[20:24:24] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
lol
L354[20:24:26] <flayer> wake me up when
Althego is done loading
L355[20:24:33] <umbralraptop> Yeah,
advanced tweakables are in settings between camera wobble and
default throttle in the general section
L356[20:24:34] <Althego> it is done
L357[20:24:42] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
or when september ends
L358[20:24:45] <Althego> but i couldnt add
anything since it is between those two items
L359[20:24:49] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
or before you go-go
L360[20:24:54] <umbralraptop> at least on
my install (10.1)
L361[20:25:06] <Althego> but if you open
the settings from ingame
L362[20:25:12] <Althego> there are fewer
items
L363[20:25:17] <umbralraptop> yeah, this
is main menu settings
L364[20:25:18] <Althego> and still can
find it there
L365[20:25:22] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
hm
L366[20:25:35] <Althego> there it is
towards the bottom under gameplay
L367[20:26:02] <Althego> the gameplay
group under camera wobble
L368[20:26:23] <Althego> 5 minutes
L369[20:28:41] <Althego> hmm the timer
vanished but something disconnected
L370[20:30:14] <Althego> what is all this
noise, the indians can launch a rocket in silence, but the chinese
cant?
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L372[20:30:29] <cirith_ungol>
marcelinethevampirespleen, how did you get interested in this
organ?
L373[20:30:41] <cirith_ungol> Hi
LunchBot
L374[20:30:44] <FLHerne> ;mission
L375[20:30:45] <LunchBot> FLHerne: In
order to spite your elementary school teachers, you write in
recursive handwriting instead of cursive. Both the pad and runway
explode!
L376[20:30:50] <Althego> omg
L377[20:30:51] <marcelinethevampirespleen>
heh
L378[20:31:04] <Althego> it is back
L379[20:31:06] <FLHerne> It still does
lunches too
L380[20:31:15] <Althego> recursive
handwriting
L381[20:31:17] <Althego> -10 s
L382[20:31:21] <umbralraptop> eeep
L383[20:31:29] <flayer> launch
L385[20:31:43] <Althego> moving
L386[20:32:21] *
cirith_ungol launches flayer into space
L387[20:32:25] <Althego> we have ride on
camera too
L388[20:33:30] <FLHerne> neat
L389[20:34:04] <Althego> boosters still
on. burn quite long
L390[20:34:53] <FLHerne> Now they
aren't
L391[20:37:07] <Althego> basically this
whole thing goes the same as a manned mission would go, just a bit
smaller
L392[20:37:24] <cirith_ungol> Is it meant
to return to earth with samples?
L393[20:37:30] <Althego> yes
L394[20:37:48] <Althego> there is even a
lunar orbit rendezvous
L395[20:38:05] <Althego> at least there
was in the diagram in the wiki
L396[20:39:08] <flayer> yeah this is
pretty big
L397[20:39:09] <packbart> yeah, the sample
capsule docks to the return rocket
L398[20:39:53] <flayer> if it succeeds, it
marks a new era in moon exploration
L399[20:39:59] <Althego> 2 kg return
L400[20:40:03] <Althego> that is
substantial
L401[20:40:27] <cirith_ungol> packbart,
will they launch another rocket to take it back?
L403[20:41:18] <Althego> looks like all in
one
L404[20:41:24] <packbart> no. as I
understand it, one part will stay in orbit while the
lander+ascending stage lands and grabs its samples. then the
ascending stage returns to orbit to rendezvous
L405[20:41:55] <packbart>
"orbiter" was the word I was looking for
L406[20:42:27] <Althego> 23 days mission
duration
L407[20:42:31] <Althego> interesting
L408[20:42:39] <Althego> soon there will
be an asteroid sample return too
L409[20:42:51] <flayer>
"soon"
L410[20:43:58] <Althego> hayabusa 2
L411[20:44:04] <Althego> i think it
returns in december too
L412[20:44:16] <umbralraptop> And then
OSIRIS-REx
L413[20:44:26] <Althego> that is going to
take a long time to vome back
L414[20:44:33] <packbart> they need to
finish within a lunar day before darkness comes. and the probe will
chose a landing site autonomously
L415[20:44:42] <packbart> we'll see how
well that works out
L416[20:45:13] <packbart> I hope their
sample isn't contaminated by the lunar tardigrade colony ;)
L417[20:45:32] <Althego> also how will the
orbiter compensate for the rotation of the moon? or maybe the tiny
120 kg ascent vehicle can do a dogleg?
L418[20:45:54] <Althego> either way plane
change
L419[20:46:19] <Althego> now if we had a
timeline we could see when the tli happens
L420[20:46:23] <Althego> maybe in
hours
L423[20:47:57] <Althego> lol
L424[20:48:17] <umbralraptop> Quote edited
because the op prefers deadpan humor
L425[20:50:14] <Althego> i cant find the
coordinates of beresheet
L426[20:50:25] <Althego> or which one was
with the tardigrades?
L427[20:51:01] <umbralraptop> that's the
one
L429[20:51:57] <Althego> chang'e 5 is
targeting something around 40.8° N, 58.1° W
L430[20:52:04] <Althego> so quite far
away
L431[20:52:26] <Althego> not even
tardigrades could get far
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L433[20:52:50] <Althego> especially they
are not in an active state when they are trying to endure
vacuum
L434[20:54:28] <bees> that is what they
want you to think
L436[21:00:43] <packbart> double-terrier
engines. I use those a lot
L437[21:01:10] <Althego> long burn.
probably yli then
L438[21:01:14] <Althego> tli
L439[21:02:57] <packbart> they were
talking about a highly elliptical orbit. I understand there will be
a third burn for the final transfer
L440[21:03:14] <Althego> can be, if twr is
small
L441[21:03:26] <Althego> we all did things
like that in ksp
L442[21:03:41] <Althego> breaking the burn
int oparts
L443[21:04:30] <packbart> there's even a
mod (split a large node into several orbits) for that but I didn't
really get the hang of it
L444[21:05:18] <Althego> those engines
dont seem to be on
L445[21:05:29] <Althego> hah space is
fake, see
L446[21:06:20] <packbart> no emissive
texture
L447[21:06:45] <Althego> but sometimes you
cant see the flames, especially in cavuum
L448[21:07:01] <Althego> even on falcon
nine there is almost nothing visible
L449[21:07:11] <packbart> these didn't
even glow
L450[21:09:23] <Althego> only glow if
passively cooled
L451[21:09:53] <Althego> in case of spacex
the nozzle extension is made of niobioum that can stand the
heat
L452[21:10:00] <Althego> and no cooling in
that part
L453[21:10:32] <Althego> i sure hope that
upper stage comes back instead of remaining there
L454[21:11:01] <packbart> eventually they
all come back
L455[21:11:19] <Althego> not exactly
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L470[22:49:06] <FLHerne> ;outcome add
Jeb's parachute swoops out of the ensuing fireball.
L471[22:49:07] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
outcome: Jeb's parachute swoops out of the ensuing fireball.
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L473[22:51:07] <umbralraptop> ;mission add
You attach a random SCP as a payload
L474[22:51:07] <LunchBot> umbralraptop:
Added mission: You attach a random SCP as a payload
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L482[23:47:50] <darsie> I'm trying to
figure out how much EC and cooling I'll need for my comet pusher,
but the data is confusing.
https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/%27Drill-O-Matic%27_Mining_Excavator
says "Asteroid harvesting mode consumes a flat 1.5⚡/s under
all circumstances". The VAB says the asteroid drill uses 7.5
EC/s (500% base efficiency).
L483[23:51:58] <darsie> The wiki says on
planets up to 15*125%=18,75 EC/s (I verified 15*5%=0.75), while the
VAB says "Planetary use 150% base efficiency, max. 22.5
EC/s"
L484[23:52:14] <darsie> So the VAB was
wrong once, IMO.
L485[23:53:49] <umbralraptop> womp
womp
L486[23:54:02] <darsie> define womp
L487[23:54:57] <umbralraptop> A sound
similiar to a sad trombone
L488[23:54:59] <darsie> TCS seems to use a
flat 0.125 EC/s.
L489[23:55:04] <darsie> ic
L490[23:56:51] <darsie> I'll go wiht
1.5.