OCLogs: 2020-10-19.log

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L29[04:39:43] <Althego> static fire attempt underway agin

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L31[04:56:13] <Althego> hehe electron already moved a day

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L35[05:23:08] <Deddly> Yet another Starlink launch in two days

L36[05:24:03] *** Deddly changes topic to 'Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.10.1 KSP2 NaN | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | "chanlog" to see what people are talking about | Yet another Starlink launch: Wed 21 Oct 16:36 GMT/UTC'

L37[05:25:27] <Deddly> .nextlunch

L38[05:25:27] <LunchBot> More coffee

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L49[07:56:05] <Althego> finally somethinf is happening. but with this speed they are going to run out of time

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L52[08:31:58] <Althego> the manually advanced timeline says raptor chill

L53[08:37:26] <Althego> sound like a siren

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L55[08:42:47] <Althego> ok detank

L56[08:42:52] <Althego> probaby not today

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L60[09:49:34] * Deddly is slightly dissapointed that .nextlunch is an invalid nick

L61[09:50:31] <Althego> without the.

L62[09:52:09] <Deddly> Well yeah, but I wanted to play havok with the bot

L63[09:52:13] <Deddly> .nextlunch

L64[09:52:14] <LunchBot> BLT

L65[09:52:19] <Althego> hehe

L66[09:52:21] <Deddly> I'll take 7

L67[10:14:49] <darsie> Why is that an invalid nick?

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L69[10:36:11] <snow> according to the RFC, nicknames need to start with a letter

L70[10:38:49] <Mat2ch> Althego: it looks like they're loading propellant again

L71[10:39:10] <Althego> what, now?

L72[10:39:52] <Mat2ch> yes

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L74[10:40:22] <Althego> but that can easily take a long time, and they are almost out of the window

L75[10:43:31] <Mat2ch> for the last test they ignored the window as well...

L76[10:48:54] *** Deddly changes topic to 'Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.10.1 KSP2 NaN | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | "chanlog" to see what people are talking about | Yet another Starlink launch: Wed 21 Oct 16:36 GMT/UTC | Starship SN8 engine testing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22FWQLMASV4'

L77[10:49:51] <Deddly> Why do they vent LOX?

L78[10:50:31] <packbart> because the tank is full, I think

L79[10:50:35] <Deddly> Seems somehow dangerous

L80[10:50:52] <Deddly> I guess they have to vent it as it boils off

L81[10:50:54] <packbart> better than venting methane ;)

L82[10:51:32] <Deddly> True

L83[10:51:59] <Deddly> Tell them to hold the test for half an hour please, I have to go.

L84[10:52:42] <Althego> siren

L85[10:54:13] <Althego> obviously they have to let out the boil off

L86[11:01:38] <Althego> what was that

L87[11:01:54] <Althego> there was not even much sound

L88[11:02:06] <Mat2ch> Preburner doesn't make much sound

L89[11:02:08] <Althego> but there was flame

L90[11:02:14] <Althego> so it couldnt be pre burner

L91[11:02:30] <Mat2ch> Why not?

L92[11:02:45] <Althego> didnt see flames in the previous pre burber tests

L93[11:02:55] <Althego> but maybe the dust was in the way

L94[11:02:57] <Mat2ch> There were only one engine then :D

L95[11:03:23] <Mat2ch> or they aborted the static fire?

L96[11:04:13] <Althego> we dont know

L97[11:04:59] <packbart> there was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom

L98[11:05:02] <Althego> also the side went thing to the right happened before the flames

L99[11:05:18] <Althego> which is at least interesting

L100[11:06:33] <Althego> so because of this and the flames i think it was a failed test

L101[11:06:38] <Althego> but nobody knows

L102[11:17:51] <packbart> "Return a sample from a class B asteroid" coming up tomorrow, I see. ( https://www.asteroidmission.org/?latest-news=watch-osiris-rex-sample-collection-activities )

L103[11:28:06] <Althego> there are two sample returns in progress, but it is going to take years until the samples are recovered

L104[11:43:38] <Deddly> Yeah the Japanese space program have one going

L105[11:43:57] <Deddly> So, Starship test fail, was it?

L106[11:44:06] <Althego> not sure

L107[11:44:18] <Deddly> Is the stream still going?

L108[11:44:43] <Althego> not the nasaspaceflight

L109[11:44:54] <Althego> but the padre streams are always up

L110[11:45:35] <Althego> elon didnt say anything

L111[11:45:39] <Althego> yet

L112[11:45:59] <Deddly> OK, thanks for the update

L113[11:47:44] <Althego> ansible is such a pain when you need to do programming in it

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L116[11:57:53] <Deddly> But Althego, Ansible is the simplest way to automate apps and IT infrastructure

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L118[11:58:13] <Althego> in most cases

L119[11:58:29] <Althego> when you want to copy files, set some file content, create firectories and such

L120[11:58:39] <Althego> way simpler than the python script i am trying to transplant

L121[11:58:43] <Deddly> I didn't know what Ansible is, so I just copied and pasted the first line from their website ;)

L122[12:01:22] <Althego> but since it is not really a programming language if are already getting awkward, loops are specialized and one statement only, and basically all programmign is done in jinja templates

L123[12:03:03] <Deddly> I wish I had learned to programme beyond some basic TCL

L124[12:04:41] <Althego> you can do it any time

L125[12:11:44] <Deddly> True, but I'm not sure I want to dedicate time into that

L126[12:11:54] <Deddly> (at the moment)

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L160[16:44:36] <Althego> elon is suspiciously silent

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L163[17:11:33] <Althego> <huf> did you know: the first computers were built for government use? that's right, they were state machines

L164[17:15:41] <Deddly> Red5 would be proud of you

L165[17:16:17] <Althego> i just pasted it here

L166[17:19:04] <Deddly> .nextlunch

L167[17:19:04] <LunchBot> Chicken wings

L168[17:19:14] <Deddly> Chicken wings is your prize

L169[17:19:35] <Althego> you can have them

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L171[17:35:34] * flayer tickles Shoe

L172[17:36:41] <Deddly> Nobody has mentioned museum in here for a while

L173[17:36:50] <Althego> hehe

L174[17:36:57] <Althego> maybe you shouldnt have even now

L175[17:37:21] <Deddly> I won't. I wouldn't want to accidentally ping someone.

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L177[17:48:22] <Rokker> MUSEUM

L178[17:48:29] <Rokker> Deddly: MUSEUM

L179[17:48:34] <Althego> hee

L180[17:48:40] <Rokker> I miss red

L181[17:48:41] <Deddly> Horray for museums :)

L182[17:48:44] <Althego> bit slow, but still alive

L183[17:48:47] <Rokker> I miss bothering all of yall

L184[17:48:52] <Rokker> Althego: I'm busy working

L185[17:48:54] <Deddly> We miss you, Rokker

L186[17:48:56] <Rokker> in my museum

L187[17:49:14] <Deddly> Yeah I miss Red too

L188[17:49:20] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lWUVPAQ6/20201018_155638.jpg

L189[17:49:40] <Deddly> That is an awesome museum

L190[17:49:45] <Althego> ah x-24

L191[17:50:06] <packbart> oh, those parts in front are from the SSPX mod ;)

L192[17:50:14] <Althego> hehe

L193[17:50:20] <Althego> reality modding

L194[17:51:00] <Deddly> "Space Shuttle Extravehicular Mobility ...Unit"?

L195[17:51:18] <Deddly> (the sign in the foreground)

L196[17:51:34] <Deddly> Ah yes, Unit

L197[17:52:03] <Deddly> The EMU is a spacesuit?

L198[17:54:50] <FLHerne> Deddly: RCS backpack

L199[17:55:00] <Althego> that is the mmu

L200[17:55:16] <FLHerne> No, it is the whole suit

L201[17:55:59] <Deddly> OK so EMU+MMU = Spacesuit with RCS

L202[17:56:08] <Deddly> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_Maneuvering_Unit

L203[17:56:13] <Althego> technically they still have some rcs

L204[17:56:25] <Deddly> They do?

L205[17:56:26] <Althego> but have only 2 m/s delta v fo emergency use

L206[17:56:52] <Althego> ok, it is 3, not 2

L207[17:57:39] <Deddly> Where can I read about that?

L208[17:57:44] <Althego> safer

L209[17:57:44] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Kcaqlo5s/20201012_160421.jpg

L210[17:58:00] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Aid_For_EVA_Rescue

L211[17:58:40] <Deddly> Aaw man those sleek lines...

L212[17:59:05] <Althego> x-15 is still unparalleled

L213[17:59:14] <Althego> just as the sr-71

L214[17:59:21] <Deddly> Althego, But the EMU didn't have that built in, as far as I can tell, did it?

L215[17:59:25] <Althego> (or maybe not, they are just so secret we dont knwo about them)

L216[17:59:49] <Althego> safer is not built in, but nonetheeless used together normally

L217[18:00:16] <Deddly> But not on the shuttle, right?

L218[18:00:46] <Althego> i think the suits didnt change much since then

L219[18:01:49] <Deddly> The Wiki article specifically talks about ISS EVAs, and the Wikipedia page for the EMU talks specifically about the shuttle

L220[18:03:36] <Deddly> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_suit#United_States_suit_models shows the EMU was for both shuttle and ISS

L221[18:03:50] <Deddly> Wikipedia has spoken!

L222[18:03:54] <Althego> hehe

L223[18:04:08] <packbart> "and was worn on spacewalks outside the Space Shuttle" and "The left side latch on the SAFER unit became unlatched during an EVA by astronaut Piers Sellers on STS-121"

L224[18:04:10] <Althego> from 82?

L225[18:04:20] <packbart> so it was used on Shuttle missions, too

L226[18:04:22] <Althego> it means those dsigns are already around 40 years old

L227[18:04:33] <Althego> and it shows basically nothing happened in those 40 yars, which makes me sad

L228[18:04:50] <packbart> ion propulsion MMU? ;)

L229[18:04:53] <Deddly> Nice find, packbart

L230[18:05:06] <Deddly> Althego, have you seen NASA's new suit?

L231[18:05:11] <Althego> yes

L232[18:05:16] <Althego> finally something happened

L233[18:05:47] <Deddly> I think that was for planetary use, though

L234[18:06:01] <Althego> still, i was hoping for the biosuit thing, which doesnt have air around your body, it is just very tight, that has been in reasearch for something like 20 years

L235[18:06:19] <Deddly> Honestly, not a lot exciting happened in space tech until SpaceX showed up

L236[18:07:11] <packbart> I want my breathable goo fluid, so we can finally explore deep seas, too

L237[18:07:42] <Deddly> Well, we already can. But I assume you mean on EVA

L238[18:07:45] <Althego> also not new

L239[18:07:59] <Althego> remember cameron's movie the abyss? the rat breathed that

L240[18:08:05] <Althego> that was actually reall

L241[18:08:07] <packbart> not new but expensive and still not very healthy, as far as I know

L242[18:08:11] <Althego> although they faked it for the human

L243[18:08:29] <Deddly> Cool

L244[18:08:42] <packbart> (the same goo is used in vapour soldering)

L245[18:08:59] <Deddly> I didn't know the rat scene was real. But it makes sense. They use this breathable liquid medically for some premature births

L246[18:10:12] <Althego> ed harris almost died because of this, since the helmet was filled with water. and in the scene where he jumps off the cliff to go deep, he was towed horizontally underwater

L247[18:10:29] <Althego> that is hard core acting

L248[18:11:20] <Deddly> I'll have to rewatch that

L249[18:11:41] <Althego> the whole movie was a hell in several levels, for everybody working on it

L250[18:13:35] <Althego> there is a scene where they find some dead people in something, was it a submarine, i dont remember. and a small crab climbs out of the mouth of one. that guy was cameron's brother

L251[18:13:40] <Deddly> CO2 buildup is apparently the issue with liquid breathing

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L254[19:03:56] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HWP9blU8/20201017_141211.jpg

L255[19:07:16] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tuUWzVC5/20201012_155856.jpg

L256[19:08:02] <Althego> marquardt space sled

L257[19:08:34] <packbart> ooh, I want one :)

L258[19:08:45] <Althego> looks cool

L259[19:11:25] <Mat2ch> the space sled looks very Kerbal :D

L260[19:22:07] <Rokker> Mat2ch: its literally as kerbal as it gets. its a round rcs tank with some struts, small rcs thrusters and a command seat

L261[19:30:21] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yoH7m8yK/20201012_155900.jpg

L262[19:31:09] <Althego> i dont get the chair

L263[19:31:34] <Rokker> Mat2ch: you could literally make that in KSP

L264[19:33:02] <Rokker> Althego: ?

L265[19:33:12] <Althego> why would you need a chair in space?

L266[19:33:20] <Althego> or seat

L267[19:33:21] <Althego> whatever

L268[19:36:33] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5vmqTNv3/20201012_155915.jpg

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L271[19:45:40] <Rokker> Althego: I mean its less crazy than the propulsion gun

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L275[19:52:49] <darsie> Althego: For artificial gravity.

L276[19:53:51] <darsie> Also to strap yourself in front of the console.

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L287[21:19:55] <Mat2ch> Rokker: is that thing floating, while in operation? When I hear "sled" I expect something that slides...

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L291[21:40:54] <Rokker> Mat2ch: think Shuttle MMU but weirder

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