L5[00:45:03] <Blu3wolf> Anyone familiar with FAR or FAR continued? Ive got an odd situation I want to check to see if others have it. A Mk1 pod is low drag, the same pod with a parachute on top is 'normal' drag. Replace the parachute with a dmagic magnetometer and add radial chutes, and the drag is a fraction of the 'normal' drag.

L6[00:45:29] <Blu3wolf> With the normal drag, I hit the water from a re-entry around 100 m/s. With the low drag, I hit the water between 500m/s and 1000 m/s

L7[00:47:00] <Blu3wolf> Checking FAR(c)'s windows, I see the Cd value is around 1.2 for the normal drag, and 0.06 for the low drag, so it makes sense - but it doesnt make sense that there is such a big drag difference. Lost two kerbals I care about in career mode to this, wondering if perhaps my understanding of drag isnt as adequate as I thought, or whether it could be a MFI issue or the part or something.

L20[04:37:16] <darsie> 1337

L21[04:38:09] <Althego> this time i noticed it too

L24[05:15:32] <Deddly> ?

L25[05:17:23] <darsie> Deddly: It's like saying Happy New Year.

L26[05:18:05] <Deddly> What, 1337?

L27[05:18:08] <darsie> yes

L28[05:18:11] <Deddly> How?

L30[05:18:42] <darsie> It's leetspeak for (e)leet (elite). You say it at 13:37.

L31[05:18:53] <Deddly> Oh right.

L32[05:18:55] <darsie> If you're cool :).

L33[05:19:33] <Deddly> I knew 1337 is leet, but I'm not cool enough to know you're supposed to say it at 13:37. Makes sense now.

L34[05:34:04] <Mat2ch> Youngling!

L35[05:34:25] <Mat2ch> back in the days, we all talked l1k3 7h1s

L36[05:34:28] <Mat2ch> (not really ;)

L37[05:37:00] <sandbox> 1337

L38[05:38:09] <packbart> only when sneaking into the Amiga-only BBS

L44[07:30:12] <Althego> what's happening

L45[07:30:28] <Althego> sn5 is moved

L46[07:30:33] <packbart> nothing much, SN5 rolling out

L47[07:30:57] <packbart> https://spacelaunchnow.me/launch/starship-sn5-150m-hop/ says it might hop next week

L48[07:31:03] <Althego> hah

L50[07:39:50] <FLHerne> Depends how much of the SN4 testing they duplicate?

L51[07:40:19] <FLHerne> They could definitely do one static fire and then a hop in a week

L52[07:41:34] <Althego> i doubt they can skip static fire

L53[07:42:07] <Althego> and that also pressurizes the tank too, so if they are in a hurry, can skip tha tank test

L54[07:47:15] <FLHerne> Before they were doing it separately to not risk the Raptor

L55[07:47:35] <FLHerne> But I don't *think* the structure is very different on SN5?

L56[07:49:20] <Althego> what about the material? or is that from sn7 onwards?

L58[08:12:19] <Mat2ch> They probably are going to do pressure tests tomorrow, then install the engine and do static fire tests

L59[08:12:36] <Mat2ch> oh and the quick release test, without the engine attached...

L60[08:13:12] <Mat2ch> and they wont go over 7.5 bars, because that's enough for now and they need the flight data

L72[10:22:55] <Althego> i was waiting for zeus to show up yesterday. but it was there, i just didnt notice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5hrbLSH2k

L73[10:22:56] <kmath> YouTube - SpaceX's Zeus Sniffing SN7 After Test to Failure

L74[10:40:35] <Althego> wintergatan

L75[10:44:50] <Althego> also hard brown box lol

L76[10:53:52] <umaxtu> they still have fixed planes wanting to do a 180 after touchdown?

L77[11:01:53] <Althego> if you mean ksp, i havent noticed an issue with that. there were versions previously with that now not really

L78[11:02:57] <FLHerne> umaxtu: Tweaking the brake strengths can help with that

L79[11:03:18] <umaxtu> I had brakes set to 200 on the rear wheels and 50 in the front

L80[11:03:47] <FLHerne> Also, while rolling, it helps if the centre of wheel-drag is behind the centre of mass :p

L81[11:04:26] <FLHerne> But if it's too far, the rear wheels get unloaded...

L82[11:04:58] <umaxtu> so bring the rear-wheel brake strength down?

L83[11:05:37] <Althego> i would increase it on the rear wheels

L84[11:06:02] <Althego> it should have the same effect as adding fins for flight

L85[11:06:41] <umaxtu> ok thanks. is there any way to visualize the center of wheel drag?

L86[11:07:01] <Althego> i havent heard of anything like that

L87[11:08:49] <umaxtu> k