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L6[00:17:14] <Althego> hmm, electron in less
than 4 days. but they usually delay it several times
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L9[01:26:27] <Althego> i cant come up with
anything else, so i guess ia have to play ksp :)
L10[01:31:55] <Althego> but if i start a
career now, it might not finish until the 1st
L11[01:32:13] <Althego> and even if it
finishes i will not be in the mood for an other one for several
months
L12[01:39:48] <JVFoxy> my usual fall back
is drop into KSP. Or MS solitaire...
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L14[01:41:35] <JVFoxy> Althego: which
version you find yourself playing on mostly?
L15[01:41:55] <Althego> lol solitair
L16[01:42:00] <Althego> i hate that
game
L17[01:42:08] <Althego> version?
L18[01:42:11] <Althego> the latest :)
L19[01:42:12] <JVFoxy> version ksp
L20[01:42:28] <JVFoxy> oh..
L21[01:43:31] <JVFoxy> 1.8.0... I have the
other two versions after just.. eh I don't know yet. I mostly fall
into Solitaire for something to do while video is going.. getting
annoyed with the habit a bit
L22[01:44:40] <JVFoxy> then again.. its not
like I have anything else on the big machine to play. (not
including the other older machine with most of my older games on
it)
L23[02:14:25] <Mat2ch> ok, this pun will be
bad. You have been warned.
L24[02:14:49] <Mat2ch> At Boca Chica the
people from SpaceX have an aweful lot of lift vehicles...
L25[02:17:44] <Althego> and every time a
rocket is finished elon hears an announcement from a computer
voice: vehicle manufacturedú
L26[02:17:47] <Althego> -ú
L27[02:18:11] <Althego> (once upon a time
there was a game called: z)
L28[02:24:03] <Althego> what if i build an
accurately sized saturn v, and see how far it can go. it should
have much higher delta v than just simply reaching the mun
L29[02:25:26] <JVFoxy> Flashblacks to
various RTS games..
L30[02:26:03] <JVFoxy> Sorry Elon, this
aint any computer game...
L31[02:26:10] <Althego> and flashabck was a
game too :)
L32[02:26:44] <JVFoxy> Oh I know.. tried it
before, couldn't make sense of it. Then decades later, saw
playthrough and was like, 'oh... ugh, I'd never figured that
out'
L33[02:27:13] <JVFoxy> I kind of liked 'Out
of this World' game they did prior though
L34[02:27:41] <JVFoxy> by Delphine
L35[02:27:42] <Althego> hehe like the last
level of fury of the furries. i went past everything and then i
just couldnt figure out the last level. for decades. finally after
many years youtube appeared and i could look up the solution and
finish the game :)
L36[02:28:06] <JVFoxy> I never got past the
first couple of jungle screens
L37[02:31:39] <JVFoxy> Huh... Fade to
Black, sequel to Flashback, John and Sarah... seem to recall a
certain movie franchise with similar names..
L38[02:36:54] <JVFoxy> huh.. do a rescue,
pod sitting in orbit while main ship launches. But picked up 'put
station in mun orbit' contract.. so I guess a bit of an extended
stay in mun orbit is on the books till station arrives...
L41[02:37:36] <Mat2ch> but I guess that's
what it takes to get out of orbit...
L42[02:38:55] <JVFoxy> tall building but
also strong building. Going to need something pretty heavy duty to
stack those things together
L43[02:41:32] *
JVFoxy dohs! Forgot set the fuel tanks at half full to test for
balance, ended up launching things that way instead of resetting
them.
L44[02:41:42] <Althego> hehe fade to black
with the cutting edge 3d graphics
L45[02:41:55] <Althego> rectangular box
guy
L46[02:42:14] <JVFoxy> Altehgo I only knew
of the sequel, never played. I had to look it up
L47[02:42:25] <Althego> but i never played
flashback or fade to black
L48[02:43:55] <JVFoxy> I think I tried the
first one at a game store, briefly. Beyond that..
L49[02:44:45] <JVFoxy> reading the plot on
the wiki sort of hard to follow. I guess it makes more sense if
were playing the game
L51[02:49:31] <Mat2ch> can you spot what's
wrong here? ;)
L52[02:50:42] <Althego> what is amystery
goo canister doing on ot?
L53[02:51:45] <Mat2ch> nope, that's not
it
L54[02:51:53] <JVFoxy> could be
worse...
L56[02:51:54] <JVFoxy>
QMygAegUIARClAQ
L57[02:51:55] <Althego> wait, why is a fire
wxtinguisher
L58[02:52:08] <JVFoxy> frig.. sorry. stupid
laptop and trackpad
L60[02:52:42] <JVFoxy> there
L61[02:52:48] <Mat2ch> Althego: for the
interior? ;) The hose is going to the inside
L62[02:52:54] <Althego> simnple, studio set
backrounds are often made of light and flammable material :)
L63[02:53:08] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: that picture
was missleading. I thought they built it with auto reload :P
L64[02:53:25] <Althego> tes the hacksmith
air cannon and lased combo
L65[02:53:30] <Mat2ch> Ok, the funny thing
on this one is the double axle at the back
L66[02:53:40] <Mat2ch> Moons gravity is so
low, you don't need that. :D
L67[02:53:51] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch biggest issue
I have with your design.. that is so going to get stuck. Rollers in
dust.. really? This isn't some shop floor
L68[02:53:53] <Althego> rule of cool
L69[02:53:56] <Althego> and it is
doable
L70[02:54:26] <Althego> so anyway the
strangest thiing on it is the mystery goo
L71[02:54:28] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: and all the
external tanks which could get crushed or punctured
L72[02:56:10] <JVFoxy> also... don't omni
wheels only have one bank of angled rollers?
L73[02:56:44] <Althego> i think ia have
seen them with two
L74[02:57:02] <Althego> but may have been
lego wheels :)
L75[02:57:44] <JVFoxy> not sure well they'd
work in dust either way...
L77[02:58:25] <Althego> thaty mars river
was always ugly
L78[02:58:40] <Althego> but i would take
that for an actual mars ride
L79[02:58:45] <JVFoxy> the mun cybertruck
reminds me of a lego set now you mention it
L81[03:01:27] <Althego> so the two row
roller wheels are different
L82[03:01:46] <Althego> this diagonal
version always has one
L83[03:01:52] <Althego> probably wouldnt
work with two
L84[03:02:21] <Althego> but why are the
antennas always stowed?
L85[03:03:20] <JVFoxy> antennae on
which?
L86[03:03:29] <Althego> the huge dish
L87[03:03:57] <Althego> you would want to
point that towards the earth, not towards the sky
L88[03:04:03] <JVFoxy> lock it down so that
it doesn't jostle around, damage bearings?
L89[03:04:24] <JVFoxy> you moving, bouncing
around, fat luck aiming it consistantly
L90[03:05:02] <JVFoxy> They've managed to
do a system for massive cargo ships, but its tricky. Plus they
don't jostle around quite as much
L91[03:05:31] <JVFoxy> rover sitting still,
you can have them out..
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L93[03:22:41] <Althego> there is a
problem
L94[03:22:52] <Althego> the lem is too
small compared to the command modul
L96[03:29:11] <Althego> the rocket gets
wider below the csm. but the game supplied parts for the lem are so
small, they could fit the same diameter
L97[03:29:36] <Althego> even just comparing
the capsule and the ascent stage the size is wrong
L98[03:30:15] *
JVFoxy ooofs, nearly hit that bit of junk on way out to the
mun...
L99[03:30:59] <JVFoxy> ... ok?
L100[03:31:55] <JVFoxy> wider below the
LEM because the tanks had to be wider?
L101[03:32:10] <Althego> that too, but the
lem nicely fit there
L102[03:32:19] <Althego> now it will be
half empty
L103[03:33:27] <JVFoxy> one the petals
were open, the LEM just at on the the end of the injection stage on
the open or was it tucked in slightly? If the last part, probably
needed some clearances when it was pulled out. Last thing you'd
want is to smack it against something
L104[03:36:50] <JVFoxy> I don't know..
Apollo style seems so overdone, I keep trying to find other ways to
do things to get out there.
L105[03:52:19] <Althego> hehe i am only at
half height
L106[03:52:25] <Althego> the real one was
110 m or so
L107[03:52:47] <Althego> that is almost
double the size of the in game van
L108[03:52:49] <Althego> vab
L109[03:53:31] <JVFoxy> ah...
L110[03:54:04] <JVFoxy> currently testing
a mission... mothership in mun orbit. Val in the 'Flypod' dropping
down lower in orbit. Kind of wish RCS had a DV readout too
L111[03:55:00] <JVFoxy> not overly
worried.. at least I won't be till I start doing plane
changes
L112[03:56:11] <Althego> hehe even this
half scaled one is too heavy
L113[03:56:15] <Althego> for the engines
that is
L114[03:59:09] <Althego> ok this is only
meager 50 m
L115[03:59:21] <Althego> 7500 m/s
L116[03:59:43] <Althego> it is
surprisingly mun only
L117[04:01:46] <JVFoxy> ugh ok that stupid
text bug keeps happening in map view..
L118[04:01:56] <JVFoxy> shows up on
planets or crafts, won't go away
L119[04:07:03] <JVFoxy> orbit data for mun
seems to be stuck on..
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L134[09:31:00] <mib_103kot> hello
L135[09:31:02] <Mod9000> Hello,
mib_103kot
L136[09:31:36] <mib_103kot> i search a
good mod to have clouds on ksp
L137[09:34:10] <mib_103kot> ???
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L167[13:28:53] <JVFoxy> weee....?
L168[13:30:18] <JVFoxy> well, at least
this station contract isn't requiring any fuel amount. Just 5
people, 2 being pilots around the Mun.. Mk1-3 docking to a Mk1
cabin should make it happy.
L169[13:34:33] <JVFoxy> wonder if I could
run two ships out to the mun together, a few hours a part...
L170[13:34:39] <packbart> Hitchhiker and a
Cupola
L171[13:35:47] <flayer> JVFoxy, i've done
three in the span of 15 minutes
L172[13:36:03] <flayer> bam zoom straight
to the moon
L173[13:38:01] <JVFoxy> packbart don't
have the parts... already combining it with some other mission got
going on
L174[13:38:48] <JVFoxy> flayer didn't want
it too close together... haven't done it before.
L175[13:38:54] <packbart> Mk1-3 + Mk1 is
just 4 seats, though?
L176[13:42:43] <JVFoxy> packbart Mk1
cabin... has 2, not the command pod. I was going to launch it with
a probe core and antennae
L177[13:43:43] <JVFoxy> I've a version
already in LKO, mun version just needs a bigger tank. I added
antennae, as per contract, though would also be nice as a
relay
L179[13:46:54] <packbart> err, wot
L181[13:47:49] <packbart> ah, scrolled the
mouse wheel up while pasting
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L184[13:53:41] <JVFoxy> heh.. tourists.. I
took up 10 or so once in one go
L185[13:53:50] <JVFoxy> couple of them
wanted mun orbit fun
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L189[14:31:10] <Guest97825> Hello
L190[14:31:26] <sandbox> ahoy
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L192[14:31:50] <Guest97825> Iv been
looking on the internet for some time now for a jammer what would
you recommend
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L194[14:33:23] <raptop> I'd recommend an
AGM-88 HARM
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L196[14:34:03] <raptop> Ask a silly
question, get a silly answer
L197[14:34:21] <raptop> (Also, I didn't
realize that at one time TI made missiles)
L198[14:38:29] <JVFoxy> ... jammers, what
is this, Kerbal warfare?
L199[14:39:30] <raptop> No idea
L200[14:41:00] <JVFoxy> I would have just
said 'a spark gap generator'... anyone can make those
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L202[14:47:26] <raptop> I suppose
L203[14:48:23] <JVFoxy> some part of me
saying possible 'bot'...
L204[14:49:34] <raptop> Definitely a
possibility. Or maybe 4chan is trying something silly
L205[14:53:22] <JVFoxy> still racking my
head over it a little: they even bother to check channel
subject?
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L207[14:54:08] <raptop> I suspect
not
L208[15:12:46] <Alanonzander> some more
modern IRC clients don't even display the topic :(
L209[15:17:07] <JVFoxy> ok weird...
launching something, I loose control on everything for half a
minute. I can't even pause.
L210[15:23:19] <JVFoxy> ok restarted..
only did it for a few split seconds. can tell cuz SAS grays
briefly
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L212[15:26:43] <UmbralRaptop> weird. Probe
or something?
L213[15:28:10] <JVFoxy> ya probe.. by why
could I not even esc/pause the game?
L214[15:28:51] <Deddly> See if it happens
again
L215[15:29:15] <JVFoxy> last time I had
this happened, /all/ the input locks didn't get set right on a
scene change
L216[15:29:53] <JVFoxy> eh, I tried
relaunching a few times already, in orbit now.
L217[15:30:20] <Deddly> Any mods
running?
L218[15:31:16] <JVFoxy> no
L219[15:31:24] <JVFoxy> ok now it did it
in orbit.. while I was turning
L220[15:31:34] <JVFoxy> I'mma restart the
game
L221[15:32:14] <JVFoxy> I was turning to
face a node marker, suddenly everything stopped responding,
including esc, for about 15 seconds
L222[15:33:05] <Alanonzander> I've had
that happen. Usually means I need to restart KSP
L223[15:34:10] <Deddly> Did you get KSP on
Steam?
L224[15:34:23] <Deddly> Might be worth
validating files
L225[15:34:25] <JVFoxy> ksp website
L226[15:34:29] <Alanonzander> yep, but I
copy it to it's own folder and run from there
L227[15:34:33] <JVFoxy> v1.8.0 still
L228[15:34:38] <Deddly> OK, files probably
fine, then
L229[15:35:22] <JVFoxy> have bee noticing
orbital text info on the map view can end up stuck on all the
time
L230[15:35:27] <Deddly> Steam often messes
up KSP for me and I have to validate files every time there's an
update
L231[15:35:37] <JVFoxy> ick
L232[15:36:12] <Deddly> Thankfully,
validating files is a function within Steam
L233[15:36:32] <Deddly> But yeah, KSP
store FTW
L234[15:37:26] <JVFoxy> ok restart didn't
fix it, but have noticed everything locks up till I right click on
the screen.
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L236[15:39:54] <JVFoxy> oh wait...
L238[15:40:32] <JVFoxy> so... having the
advanced orbital tab open messes things up it seems. I was using it
to check my inclination rather than using the map..
L239[15:41:24] <Deddly> Well
spotted!
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L241[15:42:57] <JVFoxy> ok so I guess
leave advanced tab for now..
L242[15:43:28] <JVFoxy> its having issues
finding an object to reference so it messes things up.
L243[15:47:35] <JVFoxy> ah ya.. just tried
without opening the tab, seems to not lock controls
L244[15:47:53] <JVFoxy> thing is, issue
was reported back on 1.7.0
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L248[15:54:12] <packbart> well, it was
updated just before 1.8 "Thank you for your input. We've made
some changes in recent updates to the game and would like your
input and feedback for this issue."
L249[15:55:07] <JVFoxy> maybe fix didn't
make it into 1.8.0 in time?
L250[15:55:35] <Deddly> Wait... you are on
1.8.0?
L251[15:55:46] <Deddly> Why not the latest
patch?
L252[15:56:14] <JVFoxy> I do have 1.8.1
and 1.9.1 on file.. just I never got around to checking things
out
L253[15:56:37] <Deddly> 1.8.1 is 1.8.0
minus some bugs
L254[15:56:46] <JVFoxy> I got into a
couple of 'involving' missions on two career saves I'd been meaning
to record but been on the fence on what to do
L255[15:57:08] <Deddly> Your save file
should port across with no problems. Back it up though, just in
case
L256[15:57:29] <JVFoxy> 1.8.1 just goes
into its own folder, I can copy saves over, check things out
thatway
L257[15:58:04] <Deddly> Yes. There's
honestly no reason I can think of for not using 1.8.1 over
1.8.0
L258[15:58:15] <JVFoxy> right now, I'm
just running a 'simulation run' to make sure this little 'nest
station' can make it to mun orbit ok
L259[15:59:44] <JVFoxy> maybe when I get
back from friend's place, I'll get 1.8.1 going. I was suppose to
have already collected up some paper work and gone over. Just this
issue with locks freaking out on me because of the tab
issue...
L260[16:02:33] <packbart> oh my,
linuxgurugamer is building large launchers again. you just reminded
me to check out a stream once in a while ;)
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L263[16:11:27] <JVFoxy> my laptop had
issues with twitch in a bad way. Not so much now since I put a
wireless access point in my room from the house's own net box
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L269[16:35:20] <packbart> well, now he
lost me. too much meta, not enough KSP ;)
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L271[16:54:59] <JVFoxy> and not enough
time in the day... gotta run
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L274[17:15:27] <Deddly> KSP is a poor
choice for live streaming, IMHO.
L275[17:16:01] <Deddly> I suppose it's OK
if you just have it in the background whilst doing other
things
L276[17:17:05] <packbart> it's like a
cooking show ;) something to have on in the background while you're
playing
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