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L11[01:35:48] <Althego> anything about the
failed test?
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L14[01:53:55] <packbart> a "mountain
of data"
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L20[03:20:11] <Judge_Dedd> What failed
test?
L21[03:21:29] <FLHerne> Virgin Orbit
L22[03:21:41] <FLHerne> presumably
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L29[04:24:45] <Althego> probably an ocean
of data is better metaphor :)
L30[04:24:52] <Althego> since the pieces
must have fallen into the ocean
L31[04:25:20] <Althego> and yes, i
wastalking about the cosmic girl launch
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L34[04:37:12] <darsie> 1337
L35[04:37:22] <Althego> yes, noticed
it
L36[04:37:34] <Althego> very rare when i
manage to notice it
L37[04:37:54] <Althego> usually i only
notice it few minutes before or after
L38[04:38:59] <darsie> same
L39[04:51:00] <XXCoder> before? time
viewer? ;)
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L51[07:18:19] <Althego> hehe nasa
interview, but people are 2 m apart because of the virus
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L54[07:19:14] <kmath> YouTube - Mission
Update: NASA and SpaceX Crew Dragon Launch
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L77[09:41:23] <Althego> hehehe
L79[09:42:26] <kmath> YouTube - The
Simpsons Bogey Intercept
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L91[10:29:01] <flayer> dat feel when you
build a plane where you can forget to turn on SAS
L92[10:29:22] <Althego> most are like
that
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L94[10:30:08] <Dutchy45> Is there a way to
check the action groups after launch?
L95[10:30:19] <Althego> now t here should
be
L96[10:30:28] <flayer> most of mine end up
slumping down
L97[10:30:28] <Althego> you can even modify
them
L98[10:30:38] <Althego> they have to go
down
L99[10:30:48] <Althego> since the com is in
front of col to be stable
L100[10:31:07] <Althego> you can
compensate for that with elevator trim
L101[10:31:14] <Dutchy45> How/where
Althego?
L102[10:31:22] <flayer> i don't even know
half of those words
L103[10:31:50] <Althego> on windows, the
alt-directions add trim, they are slow so you have to hold them for
a while
L104[10:32:01] <Althego> probably with
right shift on linux
L106[10:32:52] <kmath> YouTube - KSP
Loading... Action Groups preview
L107[10:33:21] <flayer> Dutchy45, there's
an icon looks like two tools crossed
L108[10:33:34] <flayer> een hamer en een
schroevendraaier
L109[10:33:50] <flayer> oh een
sleutel
L110[10:34:29] <Althego> so anyway, if you
hold mod (probably alt) with one of the control directions, most
probably with up (which is somehow down in ksp by default), then
you can see the control indicator moving up a little and that may
compensate
L111[10:34:59] <Dutchy45> Thanks guys!!
And greetings to my countryman
L112[10:35:49] <Althego> also mod x resets
all trims
L113[10:36:08] <Althego> heh how many
times i had to wait for the trim wheel to spin after a
reposition
L114[10:36:49] <flayer> what are you even
saying man
L115[10:37:14] <Althego> search for
trim
L117[10:37:17] <Althego> try it
L118[10:37:31] <flayer> i'm too tired to
read
L119[10:40:25] <flayer> ok i read it
L120[10:40:36] <flayer> i had to wait for
dota to update :(
L121[10:40:59] <flayer> so that adjusts
the flaps or something
L122[10:41:03] <flayer> i mean what does
it physically do
L123[10:41:24] <flayer> or is it a
computing thing
L124[10:41:38] <flayer> i hate all this
thinking
L125[10:41:56] <flayer> sometimes i think
there is something wrong with my brain
L126[10:42:27] <flayer> oh darn now dota
is all different too because of the update
L127[10:42:38] <flayer> i bet its going to
be a terrible experience for me
L128[10:43:05] <flayer> i swear i have the
same brain as an 80 year old person
L129[10:43:28] <flayer> like, in terms of
wear and tear
L130[10:43:30] <Althego> so if you use it
for the elevator, then it can compensate for your nose down
attitude, thus basically making all craft flyable without sas
L131[10:43:45] <flayer> yeah, ok
L132[10:43:53] <flayer> but what does the
plane do to adjust for it?
L133[10:44:00] <Althego> in reality this
usually slowly rotates the control surface
L134[10:44:10] <flayer> like, there must
be moving parts to this somewhere
L135[10:45:04] <Althego> in ksp it just
moves the control surface, in reality the whole stabilizer moves
usually
L136[10:46:22] <flayer> like, some heavy
weight that can move about in the plane's hull?
L137[10:46:32] <flayer> or some wings
somewhere?
L138[10:46:47] <Althego> the heavy weight
is create on the stabilizer because it is at an angle to the
airflow
L139[10:47:00] <Althego> so the setting
may be speed dependent
L140[10:47:03] <flayer> yes
L141[11:23:17] <flayer> so its just
drag
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L143[12:21:43] <flayer> i always have less
than 100ms dv left on this duna lander, i don't think it can do
polar landings
L144[12:22:09] <Althego> lander
only?
L145[12:22:32] <Althego> or lander and
ascent
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L147[12:22:56] <flayer> both
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L149[12:23:37] <Althego> yes, in that case
that is not a big margin
L150[12:27:53] <flayer> i will try by
setting it to a suborbital trajectory using the orbiter
L151[12:28:03] <flayer> full tanks on
touch down.
L152[12:28:36] <flayer> even if i'm not
able to save the lander, i can get the kerbals out
L153[12:28:56] <flayer> maybe i'll go
light on snacks and rcs and bring only one kerbal
L154[12:29:57] <flayer> but first:
ike.
L155[12:30:09] <flayer> although maybe
that will be tough too
L156[12:30:20] <flayer> i just need to
orbit it at first anyway
L159[12:42:42] <flayer> i really hope we
will see a huge boost in human space travel soon
L160[12:43:19] <flayer> at least dozens if
not hundreds of people in space at any one time by 2030
L161[12:43:26] <Althego> that can be
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L169[13:07:08] <darsie> A starship can
have 100 ppl or so.
L170[13:09:50] <flayer> yeah i'll believe
it when i see it lol
L171[13:10:02] <darsie> 100 t ...
L172[13:10:09] <darsie> would be 1000
ppl.
L173[13:10:14] <flayer> its gonna get
reduced in size and capacity
L174[13:11:19] <darsie> We could put an
O'Neill cylinder for ants in space :).
L175[13:28:22] <Eddi|zuHause> 1000ppl with
no equipment, food, water, ...?
L176[13:30:07] <Eddi|zuHause> i imagine
one of those cheap airlines that would throw out the seats and sell
standing places if they were allowed
L177[13:31:04] <Eddi|zuHause> you could
probably fit 1000ppl in a 747 that way
L178[13:32:34] <packbart> .oO(1000 command
seats on a few girder segments, strapped to a bunch of boosters,
roughly aimed at Mars)
L179[13:40:37] <flayer> i don't like how
the current animations that i've seen for landing on the moon
require that they leave an empty fuel tank behind
L180[13:41:06] <flayer> it's wrong, wrong
i say!
L181[13:42:06] *
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L182[13:43:03] <flayer> its wrong!
L183[13:43:50] <flayer> it's making a mess
and makes me sad
L184[13:44:18] <darsie> It's a resource
for the Moon colony.
L185[13:44:52] <darsie> People can use it
as habitat :).
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L188[13:51:14] <Mat2ch> darsie: Moonship
has so much capacity to deliver really useful material, so...
L189[13:51:34] <Mat2ch> flayer: I don't
like it either. We should try to go for full reusability
L190[13:52:08] <darsie> There's lots of
oxygen on the Moon.
L191[14:13:52] <Mat2ch> But we have to
refine it somehow
L192[14:15:59] <JVFoxy> moon dust as
fuel..
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L198[15:20:13] <flayer> hmm, i'm not sure
if i like lining my mobile base with parachutes to get it to
land
L199[15:20:22] <flayer> i have to build a
detachable device
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L206[17:08:11] <flayer> heh, my scientist
that has gone to duna only has 'fly-by kerbin' and 'fly-by the
sun'
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L211[17:27:05] <hatrix> I just built a new
computer
L212[17:27:09] <hatrix> KSP is running way
better :)
L213[17:31:24] <umaxtu> hatrix, what are
your specs?
L214[17:31:47] <hatrix> Ryzen 7 3700x and
a RX 5700 XT
L215[17:31:54] <umaxtu> nice!
L216[17:32:41] <hatrix> coming from an
Athlon and a GTS it's a upgrade :p
L217[17:32:52] <umaxtu> oh my
L218[17:33:57] <hatrix> even with proton
games run pretty smoothly
L219[17:34:50] <umaxtu> I was just about
to ask about your experience with the amd drivers. but apparently
the linux ones are actually good these days
L220[17:35:20] <hatrix> do you of any way
to test them?
L221[17:35:42] <hatrix> my GTS needed the
legacy drivers of nvidia so I'm not sure they were the best
L222[17:35:55] <hatrix> and a kernel bug
made me switch back to nouveau
L223[17:37:08] <umaxtu> my last experience
with the amd linux drivers was with a HD 6870. the opensource ones
didn't support hardware acceleration of video at that point
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L225[17:37:48] <hatrix> Crysis 2 runs
fine, QUBE2 also
L226[17:38:00] <hatrix> I don't have any
recent game though
L227[17:38:25] <umaxtu> thats alright.
they're all crap these days :P
L228[17:38:38] <hatrix> does EVE work on
1.9?
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L230[17:39:10] <hatrix> or should I use
Astronomer's Visual Pack?
L231[17:39:23] <umaxtu> idk, I'm still
running 1.8
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L233[17:42:38] <hatrix> now that I can run
KSP decently I want it to be beautiful :)
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L262[20:26:05] <kmath> YouTube - Virgin's
Orbit's Failed Rocket Launch & The History Of Air Lauched
Rockets To Orbit
L263[20:33:25] <Eddi|zuHause>
"Virgin's Orbit's" doesn't sound like proper
grammar
L264[20:34:44] <Eddi|zuHause> virgin has
an orbit, and that orbit has a failed rocket launch?
L265[20:35:03] <Althego> the first s
shouldnt be there
L266[20:35:09] <Althego> the company name
is virgin orbit
L267[20:35:23] <Althego> similar to virgin
galactic
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L269[20:36:19] <Eddi|zuHause> wasn't there
a computer game company like in the 80s or 90s?
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L271[20:37:03] <Althego> i am not sure,
but they should be with the SpaceShipTwo
L273[20:39:47] <Althego> same logo
:)
L276[20:44:46] <Althego> hehehe
L277[20:45:42] <Eddi|zuHause> isn't water
recycling already a thing on space stations?
L278[20:46:00] <Althego> i dont think they
need the water from the pee
L279[20:46:11] <Althego> so the water is
still reclaimable
L280[21:00:32] <Eddi|zuHause> the "we
make concrete polymers" stuff still needs loads of water
L281[21:01:16] <Eddi|zuHause> and probably
isn't available in large enough quantities
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