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L10[00:59:43] <JVFoxy> uh... I could see a kerbal version of this somehow: https://imgur.com/gallery/02Jr3DO
L11[00:59:43] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/KU3BVE4.gifv
L12[00:59:56] <Althego> lol
L13[01:00:00] <Althego> wueeee
L14[01:00:11] <JVFoxy> oh.. and title? Cat plays with toy
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L17[01:28:35] <packbart> the frame was built in 1967. nice of imgur commenters to provide a link. https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N99RJ
L18[01:28:57] <Althego> eh... i didnt read xkcd for a while. and now i learned john conway died
L19[01:29:08] <Althego> https://xkcd.com/2293/
L20[01:29:09] <Althego> fitting
L21[01:29:19] <Althego> guy turns into a glider
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L38[04:05:28] <packbart> giddy. I just ordered my first "gaming" computer (and the first desktop computer I bought in decades). Ryzen R5 and a RTX 2080 "super", 27" 2560x1440 display
L39[04:05:42] <packbart> I'm currently saving a lot on travel costs. would be a shame not to spend it
L40[04:07:18] <packbart> the pro said: buy the best affordable GPU. they become middle-class soon enough while the prices don't drop much. CPUs don't make such great advances performance-wise between models and older variants get cheaper fast
L41[04:10:06] <Mat2ch> got enough ram, too? And a fast nvme ssd? :)
L42[04:10:36] <packbart> yeah. 32GB RAM, 8GB VRAM, 480GB SSD, 1TB HD
L43[04:11:21] <packbart> I meant to buy a gaming laptop - but there I'd either accept a no-so-new GPU or pay way more than I allocated
L44[04:13:05] <JVFoxy> lol.. what have I done...
L45[04:13:44] <JVFoxy> ugh.. night time in game. wanna take a screen shot of some silliness
L46[04:14:34] <JVFoxy> flying ... 'pod' that seats 6...
L47[04:16:05] <Mat2ch> packbart: good choice.
L48[04:16:19] <Mat2ch> now you need a monitor with variable refresh rate for the full experience :D
L49[04:16:38] <Mat2ch> also vigin galactic is back to the game https://www.virgingalactic.com/articles/virgin-galactics-spaceshiptwo-completes-first-flight-from-spaceport-america/
L50[04:17:04] <packbart> yeah. the Acer thing I ordered doesn't have NVidias G-sync and it's "just" 75Hz
L51[04:17:28] <packbart> we'll see. the pro-gamer I asked said that I probably wouldn't notice it in KSP ;)
L52[04:18:38] <packbart> they just don't know how I play KSP
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L55[04:21:57] <Mat2ch> you wouldn't notice the 2080 in KSP either. But maybe in KSP2 :)
L56[04:24:26] <packbart> my current Quadro FX 1800M laptop GPU is about 10 years old and couldn't fully support game graphics even then. good for design work, though
L57[04:25:23] <packbart> KSP 2 promised more brilliant explosions. I got that covered now, I hope :)
L58[04:27:17] <JVFoxy> I don't know what to say.... https://imgur.com/a/6ZewIHM
L59[04:34:40] <packbart> already the doubts set in. I don't buy computers very often and got no real clue. did I buy the right display? I was going for 24" 1920x1080 at first but then realized it would be an insult to the GPU. I did want LED-IPS instead of LED-TN but am not quite sure, why
L60[04:37:07] <packbart> the 2080 Ti was still much too expensive, so I hope the "super" variant will serve me the next 10+ years or so. I wanted to try AMD Ryzen this time, even though it costs more than Intel. so it's "just" a R5, no R7 or even R9
L61[04:37:23] <packbart> anyway, the bill is paid. now I wait. 3 to 10 days, they said
L62[04:46:35] <flayer> gone forever, gone forever
L63[04:47:33] <Althego> virgin galactic... 15 years ago they were great. then messed up and they are still nothing. at that time i thought nothing of spacex. now spacex is king and nobody else is even close to them
L64[04:49:30] <packbart> it's the Flat Musk conspiracy at work
L65[04:51:56] <XXCoder> flip musk
L66[04:54:22] <Mat2ch> Althego: well, they will provide some people with some space experience for less than SpaceX
L67[04:54:46] <Althego> they just never get there
L68[04:55:08] <Mat2ch> oh, I guess they will fly passengers soon
L69[04:55:20] <Althego> they stood still while time was moving
L70[04:55:28] <Mat2ch> yeah, sadly
L71[04:55:34] <Althego> this should have happened at least 5 years ago
L72[04:55:47] <Mat2ch> Richard Branson is not that lucky when it comes to airlines and space
L73[04:56:03] <Mat2ch> I have an idea for a real rocket for him, though. But I don't know if he'd listen
L74[04:57:20] <Althego> out of the 3 rich guys one must give us cheap access to space
L75[04:57:45] <Mat2ch> packbart: https://www.xmg.gg/en/en/xmg-ultra-17 but sooooooooo much more expensive than a desktop
L76[04:57:59] <Mat2ch> Althego: Bezos isn't there either. So it'll be Starship
L77[04:58:14] <Mat2ch> 100 people, a few orbits around the earth
L78[04:58:19] <Althego> blue origin is doing something
L79[04:58:20] <Mat2ch> 1 Mio each
L80[04:58:24] <Althego> just not as publicly than spacex
L81[04:58:33] <Mat2ch> blue origin has never reached an orbit
L82[04:58:40] <Althego> true
L83[04:58:51] <packbart> "UNLIMITED CPU POWER" - yay, quantum power!
L84[04:58:52] <Althego> i guess they have more old style development methoids
L85[04:59:03] <Althego> elon's software style seems to work out better
L86[04:59:25] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg14jNbBb-8
L87[04:59:26] <kmath> YouTube - Power!!! Unlimited POWER!
L88[05:00:10] <Mat2ch> Althego: the style is different because there's nobody you have to explain the failures to
L89[05:00:15] <Mat2ch> and that works well
L90[05:00:32] <Althego> not much to explain
L91[05:00:36] <Mat2ch> if people aren't in fear that mistakes will cost them their jobs or reputation, then they will work differently
L92[05:00:44] <Mat2ch> ah, you are right
L93[05:00:51] <packbart> Mat2ch: about 4k€ at my preferred dealer. not bad :)
L94[05:01:26] <Mat2ch> preaching to the choir :)
L95[05:02:06] <Mat2ch> packbart: 4k is expensive. I can live on 4k for month...
L96[05:02:28] <packbart> yeah, way beyond what I was willing to spend. but less than I expected
L97[05:02:47] <packbart> ok, it's the "plain" 2080. neither super nor Ti
L98[05:03:10] <packbart> something about shader core numbers, iirc
L99[05:03:15] <Mat2ch> that would burn through your desk :D
L100[05:03:20] <packbart> moar is probably better
L101[05:03:23] <Mat2ch> the more, the better!
L102[05:03:52] <Mat2ch> the shader core thingies do shader calculations in parallel, so more means more calculations possible means more fps
L103[05:06:28] <Althego> nvidia rtx is a gimmick
L104[05:06:29] <packbart> and some tensor cores on the non-gaming variants (I looked at the P4000, I think)
L105[05:07:04] <Althego> if we get real raytracing from somehwere, it is going to be amd. why? because the consoles are going to have it
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L107[05:08:04] <Althego> just as consoles are going to push eight thread games
L108[05:08:14] <packbart> well, I switched from Intel CPU to AMD with this one. give me some time. NVidia is the only name I know ;)
L109[05:08:14] <Althego> which is bad for intel, but who cares
L110[05:08:34] <packbart> I remember some pains with AMD GPUs and Linux. but that's old lore
L111[05:08:59] <Althego> strange i always remember nvidia driver issues on linux :)
L112[05:09:13] <Althego> ok, amd wa sprobably somewhat worse
L113[05:09:50] <Althego> this box gets to be 5 years old now. still decent, not great though. i thought i would buy the next one next year, because of 5 nm and new socket. but then it turned out we get pcie5 and ddr5 in 2022
L114[05:09:58] <Althego> damn, 7 years is really stretching it
L115[05:11:21] <Mat2ch> my old one was also 7 years old. I'm happy it lasted that long, but also happy I could afford a new one.
L116[05:11:53] <Mat2ch> Well, this year I wont be able to make any investments in such things. I might have to register as unemployed next month :/
L117[05:12:09] <Althego> eh
L118[05:13:32] <packbart> and that's why I'm spending the money now while I still have it. it's not looking too bleak right now but we're just a small business
L119[05:13:52] <Mat2ch> yeah, I'm waiting for call to know if I can keep my business at the side and still get some support. But this year is weird.
L120[05:16:31] <packbart> it's a bug in the Matrix. it can't handle years with repeating numbers like 2020 or 1919. probably some low-level byte-order glitch
L121[05:17:33] * packbart tries to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow
L122[05:20:39] <flayer> i'm good for two months at least, that's more security than I've had in a long time tbh
L123[05:23:19] <Mat2ch> well, I was good for a few month, but they are over now ;)
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L125[05:26:05] <flayer> hehe, 139.975t rocket to launch enough fuel for at least 4 mun landings
L126[05:26:14] <flayer> don't have to upgrade the launch platform just yet!
L127[05:27:16] <Mat2ch> and after the 4 mun landings you will have enough money to do so I guess...
L128[05:27:50] <flayer> i'm trying to upgrade the tech thing
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L133[06:33:49] <Dutchy45> Hey guys, my x-science isn't working. I've been away from the game for a long time. Did something happen that I'm not aware of? (I hope it's ok to ask mod questions here)
L134[06:44:38] <flayer> Yes.
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L136[06:47:56] <Dutchy45> Okay :) Can you explain? Yes to x-science Q or mod Q?
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L138[06:48:49] <Dutchy45> And if x-science, is there a way to fix it?
L139[07:01:04] <Mat2ch> did you update the game recently?
L140[07:01:10] <Mat2ch> Then you might need a new version of x-science
L141[07:01:30] <Mat2ch> also it is possible that it's no longer supported. Best advice is to take a look at the forum thread of the mod
L142[07:04:49] <Dutchy45> Ok, thanks Mat2ch. I'll have a look there
L143[07:09:16] <Dutchy45> I looked. Is it now a mod you have to pay for? The message I got is that I've gotta buy a winrar license
L144[07:13:33] <Mat2ch> what
L145[07:13:37] <Mat2ch> link please
L146[07:15:01] <Mat2ch> also x-science seems to be abandoned
L147[07:15:19] <packbart> x-science or [x] science?
L148[07:15:24] <packbart> the latter works for me
L149[07:15:57] <Mat2ch> it's the same
L150[07:16:53] <packbart> ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/182683-ksp-190-x-science-continued-ksp-science-report-and-checklist-v523/ )
L151[07:16:56] <Mat2ch> https://github.com/Flupster/KSP-X-Science
L152[07:17:01] <packbart> ack
L153[07:17:03] <Mat2ch> Flupster forked it
L154[07:17:23] <Mat2ch> Dutchy45: click either link above and you should get a working version of it
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L156[07:18:04] <Mat2ch> I personally think ScienceAlert is better, but that's just a matter of taste
L157[07:21:01] <packbart> joys of a shared namespace. "ScienceAlert ReAlerted". I see. I mainly used the mod so I don't have to click on every single goo container in the early flights
L158[07:22:32] <packbart> I like Kerbalism's way where science experiment take (a long) time to run but can be automated and left to themselves
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L160[07:31:53] <Dutchy45> Thanks Mat2ch and packbart! I hope my limited computer skills are enough to figure this out
L161[07:58:00] <Mat2ch> https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/146647/parched-conditions-in-germany-again the second picture is scary.
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L196[13:41:42] <Althego> a few days old, but https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1255567765995319296�
L197[13:41:43] <kmath> <✔RocketLab> We've rolled Electron out at LC-2 in Virginia for the 1st time! We're gearing up for our 1st mission from U.S. soil… https://t.co/CyuilT3g2S
L198[13:41:45] <Althego> eh
L199[13:41:56] <Althego> delete the last character
L200[13:42:08] <Althego> https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1255567765995319296
L201[13:42:08] <kmath> <✔RocketLab> We've rolled Electron out at LC-2 in Virginia for the 1st time! We're gearing up for our 1st mission from U.S. soil… https://t.co/CyuilT3g2S
L202[13:44:09] <Althego> meanwhile https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1256366000527732736
L203[13:44:09] <kmath> <✔SpaceX> Crew Dragon at the Cape undergoing final preparations ahead of first flight to the @Space_Station with @NASA astron… https://t.co/kGQinbanfz
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L218[16:42:41] <Mat2ch> there's a live stream for the SN4 test, but I guess it'll take a while until the real test is started.
L219[16:42:43] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG7-XyKgNdA
L220[16:42:43] <kmath> YouTube - NSF Live: Starship SN4 update from the launch site, NASA awards contracts for crewed lunar landers
L221[16:42:51] <Mat2ch> they're still working on the rocket itself
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L255[23:25:39] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4X2w9MQJ34
L256[23:25:39] <kmath> YouTube - Starship SN4 testing LIVE from SpaceX's Boca Chica launch site
L257[23:26:37] <Althego> i think ia am going to watchthis back after it happened
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