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L37[09:47:16] <Cryptoxic> Hello?
L38[09:47:45] <Mat2ch> Hi
L39[09:47:47] <Mod9000> Hello, Mat2ch
L40[09:48:01] <Mostly_Deddly> Hi Cryptoxic
L41[09:48:56] <Mat2ch> Mod9000: no androids! ;P
L42[09:49:06] <Cryptoxic> Nice, chat's still kindda active
L43[09:49:16] <Cryptoxic> Thought irc has gone the way of the dinosaur lmao
L44[09:49:31] <Mostly_Deddly> IRC never really dies, it just lurks ;)
L45[09:49:53] <Cryptoxic> Do we have any mod devs here as well?
L46[09:50:03] <Mat2ch> Did dinosaurs upgrade to utf-8? I don't think so!
L47[09:50:25] <Mostly_Deddly> Hmm, I don't know about mod devs here, actually.
L48[09:51:02] <Cryptoxic> Ah damn, thought I could ask about some issues here oh well
L49[09:51:51] <Mostly_Deddly> That's not to say there aren't extremely knowledgeable people here, though I count myself out on that ;)
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L51[09:52:45] <Cryptoxic> My issue's more on the development side tho, cant seem to open the ckan solution in visual studio
L52[09:53:38] <Mat2ch> there's the modders channel
L53[09:54:14] <Mat2ch> uh, #kspmodders
L54[09:54:18] <Mat2ch> I think
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L56[09:56:44] <Cryptoxic> Sweet thanks, joined the channel
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L66[10:55:12] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti5dN97qs3w 25 hours
L67[10:55:25] <Mat2ch> DARPA Launch Challenge with Atlas
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L70[11:16:19] <darsie> My Eve helicopter tests failed: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot57.png
L71[11:16:44] <darsie> Rotation on Eve may not be that fast, though.
L72[11:17:22] <Althego> lol
L73[11:18:21] <darsie> But then, I also guess the beach is too inclined to land, and getting the fuel truck out to the rocket at sea takes too long.
L74[11:18:32] * darsie wants to get an Eve water sample return.
L75[11:18:44] * darsie wants to return an Eve water sample.
L76[11:21:43] <Mat2ch> Build a folding plane!
L77[11:21:54] <darsie> I don't have folding parts.
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L79[11:22:15] <Mat2ch> Then a small plane that fits inside a fairing
L80[11:22:42] <Mat2ch> Eves atmosphere is dense enough to fly even with small wings
L81[11:27:42] <darsie> I want to get from the sea to Eve orbit.
L82[11:29:42] <darsie> An electric helicopter might get me higher up where I could discard the wings and start rockets.
L83[11:30:26] <Althego> with planes you can easily get up to 1 atmosphere pressure on eve
L84[11:30:40] <Althego> or rather down to
L85[11:30:48] <darsie> Rocket powered planes?
L86[11:30:53] <Althego> no, props
L87[11:31:00] <darsie> I have no props.
L88[11:31:11] <Althego> that is useful because at 1 atmosphere rockets work quite well aain
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L90[11:32:58] <darsie> Maybe I'll try a rocket plane.
L91[11:34:18] <Althego> no, not really, eve is like kerbin was in the soup era. you have to go vertically until at least 15 km
L92[11:34:40] <Althego> because you have great losses in thrust from the atmosphere
L93[11:43:04] <darsie> But I get lift frow wings.
L94[11:44:02] <Mostly_Deddly> Can work if you have TWR <1
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