OCLogs: 2020-02-23.log

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L4[01:50:03] <Guest15650> hi, anyone here?

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L8[02:56:17] <UmbralRaptop> I don't have seconds turned on, so I can't tell how long that guest was in here

L9[02:56:57] <Althego> from 49:23 to 52:43

L10[02:57:04] <Althego> more than 3 minues

L11[02:57:07] <Althego> must be a new recors

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L13[02:59:27] <UmbralRaptop> It all says 01:54 on my end ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L14[03:01:46] <Althego> the clock may be off

L15[03:01:53] <Althego> because windows just cant use ntp

L16[03:01:56] <Althego> it is set up

L17[03:02:02] <Althego> doesnt do it unless i click it by hand

L18[03:02:12] <Althego> but the duration is correc

L19[03:02:13] <Althego> t

L20[03:03:01] <Rolf> 2 minutes and 45 seconds

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L25[04:24:27] <Mat2ch> where's our greeting bot? :P

L26[04:25:16] <Althego> that is useless anyway

L27[05:16:48] <Mat2ch> So, a well trained neural net that fools them until a real human comes along?

L28[05:17:41] <Mat2ch> Oh no, Mad Mike is dead.

L29[05:17:52] <Mat2ch> Now he can watch from above that the earth is round.

L30[05:19:29] <Althego> a flat earther that did something noteworthy

L31[05:20:03] <Althego> wait, actually died while trying to launch a rocket?

L32[05:20:23] <Mat2ch> Well, he got up, but the parachute didn't open

L33[05:20:48] <Mat2ch> and he didn't bring a spare it seems

L34[05:21:10] <Mat2ch> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hughes_(daredevil)#Death

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L36[05:35:12] <packbart> check your staging

L37[05:36:03] <packbart> Mat2ch: the parachute opened at launch and detached. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmq_lV3Va9Q

L38[05:36:03] <kmath> YouTube - Mad Mike Hughes Last Launch, 02/22/2020 #BlackSwanDive

L39[05:41:40] <Mat2ch> packbart: oh, you are right

L40[05:43:29] <Althego> looks so kerbal

L41[05:48:35] <Mat2ch> He could have boarded a plane and get higher...

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L43[05:51:47] <Mat2ch> https://halojumper.com/products/halo-over-heaven-and-hell-32000-ft-extreme-tandem

L44[05:52:09] <Mat2ch> 10 km should be high enough to see the earths curve...

L45[05:52:30] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: Fluburtur Fluburtur

L46[05:52:44] <Mat2ch> you need to get in touch with someone who works in marketing

L47[05:52:59] <Mat2ch> your props are great, but you need somebody who knows how to sell them :)

L48[05:53:04] <Althego> you cant really see it while jumping out of an airplane

L49[05:54:23] <Althego> we have to wait a few years for those space tourist contracts :)

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L55[06:37:16] <darsie> 1337

L56[06:39:37] <Mat2ch> Althego: few years? I bet at the end of this year or start of the next year we will see SpaceX fly their first tourists...

L57[06:39:48] <Althego> ah yes if we are lucky

L58[06:40:05] <Althego> technically it is going to be ready for action after the first crewed test flight

L59[06:40:19] <Althego> but the competitors are really not even close

L60[06:40:38] <sandbox> the person recording shortly before launch "you just y'know, you just strap yourself in, today's the day I may die"

L61[06:40:45] <Althego> even though some of them are for suborbital flights and working on it much longer

L62[06:52:15] <Mat2ch> It's the workplace mentality

L63[06:52:31] <Mat2ch> ever wondered why you see so many young people at SpaceX?

L64[06:52:40] <Mat2ch> Alsmost nobody from the boomer generation?

L65[06:54:58] <Mat2ch> SpaceX and Tesla are managed like a sports team. You want the best people, but you want them to be able to play in a team

L66[06:55:21] <Mat2ch> so sometimes you just don't go for the best players, but those who are best for the team

L67[06:57:42] <FLHerne> "60-year-olds tend to not be interested in a work/life ratio of infinity, so Silly Valley firms don't hire them."

L68[06:58:07] <FLHerne> ^ok, so Hawthorne is at the other end of CA, but that's a more plausible explanation to me

L69[06:58:59] <Mat2ch> no, no, the younger generation is interested in a good work/life ratio. That's why it is so important to have a job that is not considered as "work" in the old meaning

L70[06:59:14] <FLHerne> Young people are excited to do cool stuff, don't have family commitments, and prestige/CV enhancement is more valuable than pay

L71[06:59:14] <Mat2ch> and that's all about meaning

L72[06:59:44] <Mat2ch> ehm, have you read the job offerings lately? They can pretty much chose where to work

L73[06:59:52] <Mat2ch> there are so many open positions...

L74[07:00:44] <Mat2ch> and if building rockets is your hobby... well, you're not really working then

L75[07:01:28] <Mat2ch> (but on the other side everyone is telling you to ask for a decent pay, so you get a decent pay...)

L76[07:01:53] <FLHerne> That sounds like something a young person would say :P

L77[07:01:59] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch I feel the exact same way

L78[07:02:06] * FLHerne being one, but still...

L79[07:04:00] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: The point is that young engineers can put "I worked at SpaceX" on their CV, and that's worth more in the long run than a significant pay increment in the short term

L80[07:04:33] <FLHerne> For someone approaching retirement with lots of background already, that's much less true

L81[07:05:33] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: do you really think that way?

L82[07:05:43] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: you are a special case :)

L83[07:06:00] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: It's sort of obvious?

L84[07:06:49] <Mat2ch> not for me here

L85[07:07:19] <Mat2ch> because I'd rather do a job that is fun than one I wouldn't like just because it may look good on the CV

L86[07:07:42] <Mat2ch> (actually nobody really looks anymore at the companies what you worked, but what you have done there and if this is useful or not)

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L88[07:11:18] <Mat2ch> funny thing, the job reference paper you get here in Germany is not worth the paper it's printed on...

L89[07:11:39] <Mat2ch> so nobody cares about them anymore

L90[07:12:11] <Rolf> sad when paper becomes less valuable

L91[07:12:13] <Rolf> ;)

L92[07:12:54] <Mat2ch> hrhr

L93[07:13:09] <Althego> hmm, danny in 1.9

L94[07:26:24] <Flayer> alright, i'm gonna stick with this savegame for the next 15 in-game years

L95[07:27:41] <Flayer> my aim will be to build a self-sustainable base on both Duna and Laythe

L96[07:37:37] <Flayer> mach 1 is like 350m/s yeah?

L97[07:38:04] <packbart> depends on altitude but somewhere around that, I seem to remember

L98[07:38:25] <packbart> that's where my rockets like to flip out

L99[07:38:32] <Flayer> yeah

L100[07:38:33] * darsie always goes with 333 m/s.

L101[07:38:44] * Mat2ch too

L102[07:39:12] * packbart goes by the white graphics effects

L103[07:39:17] <Mat2ch> this way you can count pretty easily the seconds between the lightning and the thunder and know who far away it was

L104[07:39:37] <Mat2ch> don't count if it happens both almost at the same time. ;)

L105[07:40:00] <Flayer> lightning is so fascinating

L106[07:40:06] <darsie> Like when someone threatens you with stun gun.

L107[07:41:32] <packbart> the cattle prod is a staple tool of old BOFH stories

L108[07:44:57] <Mat2ch> uh, Danny... I'm waiting for him to find all the bugs!

L109[07:47:35] <Althego> for now he could change the terrain a bit

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L111[07:58:02] <Mat2ch> Which looked only just a bit weird ;)

L112[08:02:23] <Althego> it was underwhelming

L113[08:02:29] <Althego> didnt even destroy a single planet

L114[08:11:43] <Fluburtur> also yeah, 10km might be a little too low

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L116[08:30:04] <NGC3982> im on 1.9.0.2781 (steam) on windows 10, and im having some light issues since the latest steam update.

L117[08:30:28] <NGC3982> when i visit for instance minmus, i can see far away "zones" (the big squares that makes the terrain" flash light and dark several times a second

L118[08:33:35] <NGC3982> im trying to fiddle with the graphics settings, but i cant find anything that seems to change the behaviour

L119[08:35:43] <NGC3982> oh my god it solved itself it the best way possibly

L120[08:35:51] <Althego> crash?

L121[08:36:11] <NGC3982> increased my terrain detail to max and it worked. it also increased my fps from ~15 to vsync 60.

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L125[09:17:08] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSRgXeieR3k Mike Hughes launched himself with a steam powered rocket to prove that the ground is flat. He died

L126[09:17:17] <darsie> Check yo staging

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L139[11:42:46] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGmhtV2N-a8 nom nom nom

L140[11:48:52] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8W09_EL0AY

L141[11:48:52] <kmath> YouTube - Look out for that.....TREE!!! Tator Team Daisy-Chain Recovery

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L149[12:10:12] <Mat2ch> Althego: looks like a shitty day for all parties...

L150[12:10:58] * UmbralRaptop fines Mat2ch one (1) credit

L151[12:11:08] <Althego> in the next one i was watching they have to right a waste water tanker

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L153[12:11:24] <Althego> with you know, stuff, in it

L154[12:11:54] <UmbralRaptop> oh, puns

L155[12:12:49] <Althego> where

L156[12:14:02] <UmbralRaptop> misread waste water?

L157[12:14:17] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6zOCujTok

L158[12:14:20] <kmath> YouTube - Rollover Tanker!!! What a Load of Crap -py Water

L159[12:14:58] <UmbralRaptop> Yeah, that

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L161[12:20:38] <packbart> why do american trucks have these ugly external air filters? I really like flat nose trucks better

L162[12:21:29] <Mat2ch> packbart: they have round analog instruments still, too

L163[12:21:32] <Mat2ch> it's a truckers thing

L164[12:22:03] * packbart is just a Truck Simulator trucker :)

L165[12:22:03] <Althego> analog gauges are still used in airplanes, even i they are on an lcd display

L166[12:22:07] <Althego> if

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L168[12:27:29] <UmbralRaptop> Analog gauges are supposed to be better about jitter

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L174[12:41:23] <Althego> hehe, numberphile, 17 klein bottle

L175[12:42:20] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop: depends. I can build you a digital gauge that looks the same, but has way more functions

L176[12:44:44] <Althego> if you are looking for zero volume one sided r3 immersed not embedded klein bottles, there is plenty to explore with glass

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L192[14:23:24] <icefire> GA aircraft might have the old steam gauges but any modern airliner (re: 1990's and onward) likely don't

L193[14:23:52] <icefire> even the 737NG's standby instrument is just a small digital display

L194[14:27:02] <Althego> https://youtu.be/ae20L78imO4?t=124

L195[14:28:13] <icefire> anything on the DU's is just a graphics rendering. It could do anything the computer tells it to do

L196[14:28:20] <icefire> 100% digital

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L198[14:28:44] <Althego> of course. but it has nedles just as the analog onese

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L206[15:16:04] <icefire> fair enough

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L209[15:54:12] <hoglahoo> hi

L210[15:54:12] <Mod9000> Hello, hoglahoo

L211[15:54:25] <hoglahoo> how can I opt out of the bot autoreplies?

L212[15:56:27] <UmbralRaptop> Alternate greetings?

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L221[17:35:42] <darsie> hello

L222[17:35:42] <Mod9000> Hello, darsie

L223[17:35:46] <darsie> not that one

L224[17:36:53] <darsie> As-salāmu ʿalaykum

L225[17:36:59] <darsie> works

L226[17:37:22] <darsie> means "Peace be upon you". allegedly

L227[17:55:18] <Black_Eagle> almost had it

L228[17:55:34] <Black_Eagle> turns out my space shuttle isn't stable when reentering

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L230[19:36:32] <UmbralRaptop> Mod9000 is not doing

L231[19:37:09] <UmbralRaptop> Black_Eagle: hypersonic aerodynamics are hard?

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