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L2[01:37:10] <hatrix> I'll hope I'll get to
that level soon Mat2ch, I'm stuck with stupid bases I can't land on
Eve :)
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L4[01:38:43] <hatrix> also I've been here
yesterday, that's the Payload Operations Control Centre of the
spectrometer AMS on the ISS:
https://i.imgur.com/hr3tvHz.jpg
L5[01:39:03] <hatrix> sadly I just passed by
and didn't have time to enter the building, I'll go back take some
pictures
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L8[02:34:50] <Mat2ch> hatrix: well, it's not
easier :)
L9[02:35:03] <Mat2ch> Also landing your
base... just bring enough retro-rockets to slow down at Eve
;)
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L11[02:48:57] <Mat2ch> it seems as if 1.9
has introduced a few bugs. Danny has fun with it :D
L13[02:49:44] <Mat2ch> and it's annoying if
you want to dock
L14[02:52:13] <hatrix> I'm really impressed
by his flying skills with the arms attached
L15[02:58:09] <Mat2ch> Oh, Danny has a few
thousand hours in KSP...
L16[02:58:25] <Mat2ch> master of
disaster.
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L32[07:21:12] <Judge_Dedd> That missing
space was driving me crazy
L33[07:21:42] <Althego> nan is doing?
L34[07:21:51] <Althego> nan is not doing
,allah is doing :)
L35[07:22:08] <Judge_Dedd> :)
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L37[07:27:14] <packbart> The chronicles of
NaNia
L38[07:38:18] <Judge_Dedd> Have we heard
anything about the results from the Starlink stealth test?
L39[07:41:57] <Mat2ch> nope
L40[07:44:06] <Althego> stealth test?
L41[07:44:14] <Althego> teh anti reflection
coating thing?
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L44[08:06:17] <Mostly_Deddly> Althego,
yeah, that. But I insist on calling it stealth technology because
Elon Musk is going to invade from Mars in 50 years
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L46[08:08:49] <UmbralRaptop> Formally not
that I've heard of. Informally, amateur astronomers couldn't see
any difference between darksat and the rest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L47[08:09:04] <Mostly_Deddly> Oh really?
Interesting.
L48[08:09:14] <Althego> lol invasion
L49[08:09:39] <Althego> and he could
disrupt half of the internet with simply turning off his satellite
network
L50[08:10:02] <Mostly_Deddly> UmbralRaptop,
but how could they know? I mean, if they're looking at it and can
identify it as darker, one might assume there is some difference
between them.
L51[08:10:37] <Mostly_Deddly> Althego, we
all know Elon is a sci-fi fan. What were all the early sci-fi films
about? I rest my case ;)
L52[08:10:56] <UmbralRaptop> They
*couldn't* identify it as darker, and were going by orbital
elements or position in the satellite train
L53[08:11:00] <Althego> attack of the
martians?
L55[08:11:18] <kmath> YouTube - Starlink
Mission
L56[08:11:21] <Mat2ch> 50 min
L57[08:11:23] <Althego> eh
L58[08:11:33] <Althego> the launch is
happenning just before i get off the bus
L59[08:11:35] <Mostly_Deddly> UmbralRaptop,
Sorry, I meant if they could identify which one the
"darker" one is. But of course, they can count - I wasn't
thinking straight.
L60[08:12:02] <Mat2ch> Althego: I'm not
sure if the launch is in 50 min or the stream...
L61[08:12:06] <Mostly_Deddly> Link is also
in the description, just sayin' ;)
L62[08:12:26] <Althego> launch is around
16:05 europe
L63[08:12:48] <Althego> so in around 53
minutes
L64[08:12:55] <Althego> the stream starts a
bit sooner
L65[08:13:14] <Mostly_Deddly> Stream is
live in 52 minutes, launch in 53, according to
nextrocket.space...
L66[08:13:26] <Althego> no, the live
coounter is the launch time
L67[08:13:34] <Althego> they just start the
stream before the live counter goes to zero
L68[08:13:55] <Mostly_Deddly> That's an odd
way of doing things
L69[08:13:55] <Althego> around 10-15
minutes before
L70[08:14:08] <Althego> this is how they
roll :)
L71[08:14:17] <Althego> or launch,
whatever
L72[08:14:19] <Mostly_Deddly> I demand
conformity!
L73[08:15:05] <Althego> can i use a bridged
interface in an ec2 instance?
L74[08:15:10] <Mostly_Deddly> You're right,
though. The video description says 15:05
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L76[08:16:34] <Judge_Dedd> I didn't
understand most of the words you just used
L78[08:17:03] <Mat2ch> ec2 is some Amazon
cloud thing
L79[08:17:21] <Althego> the problem is i
get many google hits each doing something differently
L80[08:17:47] <Mat2ch> an interface means
"network interface", which is the software representation
of something that makes thingies speak to another
L81[08:18:13] <Mat2ch> and a bridge is
putting two or more together so they get all the data
combiend
L82[08:18:18] <Althego> a lot worse than
this. i need this for lxcs running in an ec2 instance
L83[08:18:23] <Mat2ch> *combined
L84[08:19:23] <Mat2ch> and lxc is a
container format, like docker, virtualbox, vmware, but not running
a full kernel themself
L85[08:19:41] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: need
more info?
L86[08:19:47] <Althego> lol
L87[08:19:51] <Mat2ch> :D
L88[08:19:54] <Mat2ch> I'm bored
L89[08:19:58] <Mat2ch> need a project
L90[08:20:39] <Judge_Dedd> Thanks for the
info :)
L91[08:21:04] <Mat2ch> and just as I said
this a mail arrived letting me now that I'm considered for a
project but the selection process is taking a bit longer
L92[08:21:07] <Mat2ch> wow
L93[08:21:20] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: You're
welcome
L94[08:21:36] <packbart> Althego: I'd say:
why should a bridge not work on EC2?
L95[08:22:13] <Mat2ch> And I say: Just try
it. If it doesn't work, get your money back. :P
L96[08:22:43] <Judge_Dedd> Any statistics
people here? Is there any difference between "raster
analysis" and "analysis raster"?
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L98[08:38:07] <Judge_Dedd> Guess not
:)
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L103[08:49:48] <Mat2ch> 15 minutes
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L106[09:04:03] <Mat2ch> 2 minutes till
launch
L107[09:04:23] <darsie> till live
stream
L109[09:04:47] <kmath> YouTube - Starlink
Mission
L110[09:05:13] <darsie> live in 49
min.
L111[09:05:39] <packbart> wrong
timeline
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L113[09:06:51] <hatrix> oops missed
it
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L118[09:15:50] <Judge_Dedd> Ooh landing
fail
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L120[09:16:11] <packbart> You will not
come back from space today
L121[09:16:24] <Mat2ch> was a very steap
landing, so they probably didn't have enough fuel
L122[09:16:54] <Judge_Dedd> I love the
drops of water that hit the camera
L123[09:17:02] <Mat2ch> and if you look at
the launch it looks like their trajectory wasn't that optimal, the
engines weren't firing straight most of the time
L124[09:17:06] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L125[09:17:35] <hatrix> where the booster
at
L126[09:17:55] <Mat2ch> and what was that
thing floating away shortly before the Reentry Burn?
L127[09:18:07] <Judge_Dedd>
Timestamp?
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L129[09:18:28] <Althego> hehe it sure
landed somewhere
L130[09:18:38] <Althego> probabléy next to
the ship
L131[09:18:46] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: hard
to tell in a live stream
L132[09:18:50] <Mat2ch> wait
L133[09:18:54] <darsie> Dang, youtube
showed me wrong stream launch time instead of starting the
stream.
L134[09:18:59] <Althego> the plumes were
visible and some water droplets from th splash on the camera
L135[09:19:01] <darsie> Watching
now.
L136[09:19:07] <packbart> yeah, there were
some clouds next to the barge
L137[09:19:16] <Mat2ch> T+00:05:054
L138[09:19:19] <hatrix> what was the
booster's name?
L139[09:19:21] <Mat2ch> T+00:05:54
L140[09:19:31] <Althego> it landed right
before i arrived to the house, obviously worst timing
L141[09:19:33] <darsie> Miss Chief
:)
L142[09:19:40] <Althego> argh
L143[09:19:48] <Althego> next time call it
loki. the god of mischief
L144[09:19:54] <Mat2ch> Miss Chief is the
name of the fairing catching ship
L145[09:20:12] <Althego> there are
two
L147[09:20:30] <Mat2ch> Ms Tree?
L148[09:20:33] <hatrix> rip B1056
L149[09:20:34] <Judge_Dedd> Mat2ch, I
think it's frost buildup
L150[09:20:59] <hatrix> feel free to be
the firsts to edit the page
L151[09:21:02] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd:
possible. But it looks like rubber...
L152[09:22:22] <Judge_Dedd> T+9 looks like
it landed just off to the right and maybe fell over
L153[09:23:03] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: it
does this sometimes on purpose, when the computer finds something
off
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L155[09:26:25] <darsie> Must be a pun on
mischief :).
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L157[09:41:19] <Judge_Dedd> Mat2ch, yeah,
like the one that had hydraulic problems and landed just offshore
some time ago
L158[09:41:40] <Althego> that was
cool
L159[09:41:42] <Althego> was
spinning
L161[09:42:10] <darsie> chanlog
L162[09:42:11] <Mod9000> I keep channel
logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
L163[09:42:26] <Judge_Dedd> Althego, I was
watching that live - I was heartbroken when they cut the video feed
D:
L164[09:42:42] <Althego> even elon
admitted that was a wrong move
L165[09:42:49] <Judge_Dedd> Yeah.
L166[09:43:05] <Judge_Dedd> Actually, he
said it wasn't on his command that they cut it
L168[09:43:52] <kmath> YouTube - Elon Musk
in Interstellar - parody mashup
L169[09:47:40] <Judge_Dedd> Althego, LOL
that was fabulously done
L170[09:47:57] <Althego> it was out a few
days after the incident
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L173[09:49:55] <Judge_Dedd> I like it how
the video creator asks people to subscribe and he only has this one
single video in his entire feed
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L180[10:59:45] <Judge_Dedd> So, Starlink
currently consists of well over 200 satellites, 180 discounting the
first launch of "beta" hardware. How many do they need in
order to begin offering service?
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L182[11:01:51] <Tank2333_> i heard numbers
around 750 or so
L183[11:02:27] <Mat2ch> 1584 in the first
stage
L184[11:02:31] <Althego> isnt it 300 with
the initial thing?
L185[11:02:35] <Althego> or was it only
240?
L186[11:02:53] <Althego> yhey want around
what, 15000 such satellites?
L187[11:03:00] <Althego> they also
communicate among themselves
L188[11:03:12] <Althego> so probably few
hundred is not really cutting it for usable service
L189[11:03:15] <Mat2ch> 11867
L190[11:04:28] <Mat2ch> it's a weird
number, but I guess there's a reason for it
L191[11:04:50] <Althego> hehe
L192[11:05:06] <Tank2333_> 42
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L194[11:06:02] <Tank2333_> they have to
realy keep pushing to get to 11867
L195[11:07:35] <darsie> Maybe fewer sats
are sufficient for lower bandwidth.
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L198[11:08:42] <darsie> Elon will get mad
if he causes Kessler syndrome and makes Mars colonization
impossible.
L199[11:09:12] <Althego> yes probably it
is operational with around 1000
L200[11:09:38] <Mat2ch> 1584 ;P
L201[11:10:14] <Althego> the also want to
launch bigger batches with the starship
L202[11:10:17] <Mat2ch> Which means 30
launches or so in total, when the v0.9s are deorbited
L203[11:10:24] <Althego> which is almost
free since you get back the second stage too
L204[11:10:50] <Althego> hmm i may have
dns problems
L205[11:11:32] <Mat2ch> but then the
Starship needs to make inclination changes
L206[11:11:33] <Althego> no, then
wikipedia has some problems
L207[11:11:43] <Mat2ch> wikipedia has some
issues
L208[11:11:46] <Mat2ch> but it's working
again for me
L209[11:12:38] <Judge_Dedd> Elon says
interlink between satellites is not needed for service, because
they can relay signals through ground stations
L210[11:13:18] <Mat2ch> But if the usable
load is really 150t then they could launch 500-600 sats per
launch...
L211[11:13:31] <Judge_Dedd> That would be
quite something
L212[11:14:28] <Mat2ch> *usable load to
LEO
L213[11:18:57] <Althego>
LOAD"*",8,1
L214[11:19:45] <packbart> that's not a
usable LOAD anymore
L215[11:23:53] <Judge_Dedd> IKEA should
get in on the flat-pack satellite business
L216[11:23:59] <Althego> hehe
L217[11:26:48] <Tank2333_> whats the
progress on starship right now?
L218[11:27:15] <Althego> in many
pieces
L219[11:27:21] <Althego> finalizing
process
L220[11:27:39] <Althego> but spacex is
very good in creating new processes
L221[11:28:38] <Tank2333_> true
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L224[11:49:44] <Mat2ch> Tank2333: we can't
tell. since Mary is on vacation and Jack is not yet at the site to
show us the progress ;)
L225[11:51:46] <Althego> there was some
rumor that elon wants to send a starship to mars this window
L226[11:55:56] <darsie> With a
tesla?
L227[11:56:07] <Althego> hehe
L228[11:56:16] <darsie> No, cybertruck
:)
L229[11:56:23] <Althego> i doubt they can
finish it even
L230[11:56:34] <Althego> not to mention
about tests
L231[11:57:19] <darsie> I want Elon to
make renewable methane.
L232[11:57:28] <darsie> From CO2 or
biomatter.
L233[11:57:29] <Althego> how
L234[11:57:54] <darsie> Gotta develop
ISRU, anyways.
L235[11:59:03] <darsie> Put up some solar
panels, electrolyse some water ...
L236[12:02:40] <Althego> do it with
bacteria :)
L237[12:02:49] <Althego> they have been
doing it far longer :)
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L242[12:41:26] <Althego> scott
L243[12:41:29] <Althego> about you know
what
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L245[13:11:31] <Althego> hmm, 2 days ago a
bunch of videos were uploaded to the mars society youtube. now i
have to watch them
L246[13:43:54] <Mat2ch> Tylo is
hard.
L247[13:43:59] <Mat2ch> Harder than
Eve
L248[13:44:04] <Mat2ch> because everyone
know that Eve is hard.
L249[13:44:11] <Mat2ch> I fear I'm
stranded on Tylo...
L250[13:44:36] <Mat2ch> *everyone
knows
L251[13:44:53] <Mat2ch> If you're ever
going to land at Tylo: Bring vectors, nothing else.
L252[13:44:59] <Althego> at least you can
land relatively easily on eve. tylo is hard in both
directions
L253[13:45:05] <Mat2ch> You need the
TWR...
L254[13:45:30] <Mat2ch> Otherwise the
cosine losses will destroy every calculation.
L255[13:46:14] <Mat2ch> also KSP gets very
very slow if you switch vessels often
L256[13:46:32] <Althego> scene change in
general causes that
L257[13:46:40] <Mat2ch> I don't know
why
L258[13:46:49] <Mat2ch> it seems to get
unloaded and loaded again
L259[13:46:51] <Althego> after running ksp
a whole day and switching to launch and revert to vab for desing
changes
L260[13:46:53] <Mat2ch> there is no reason
to be that slow
L261[13:47:03] <Mat2ch> why programmed
this? ;P
L262[13:47:06] <Althego> every scene
change happens with snail speed
L263[13:47:28] <Althego> and you dont
notice it, because it happens gradually
L264[13:47:33] <Althego> until it is just
endless wait
L265[13:48:53] <Judge_Dedd> Wait... so
each scene change gets longer and longer?
L266[13:48:58] <Althego> yes
L267[13:49:06] <Judge_Dedd> I have
honestly never noticed
L268[13:49:06] <Althego> happens after a
long time
L269[13:49:14] <Judge_Dedd> Is that a
known issue?
L270[13:49:21] <Althego> so not flying but
designing for 10-12 hours
L271[13:49:38] <Althego> launch, revert
launch revert
L272[13:49:50] <Judge_Dedd> That's most of
my KSP game right there
L273[13:51:01] <Judge_Dedd> But I don't do
it got 10 hours straight.
L274[13:51:21] <Althego> 10 hours is not
even that long
L275[13:52:20] <Judge_Dedd> got =
for
L276[13:52:41] <Judge_Dedd> Curse my
muscle memory
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L294[16:21:31] <hatrix> I did time warp
too much though
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L305[17:01:18] <Fluburtur> dedd is not
doing, allah is doing
L306[17:02:29] <lordcirth> Pls no
L307[17:03:37] <UmbralRaptor> That which
is not doing may eternal lie
L308[17:21:52] <darsie> hatrix: You
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style.
L309[17:25:37] <darsie> What is this
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