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L14[05:53:39] <darsie> "The outpost
must be on motorized wheels." Does it suffice to have any
wheel somewhere, or do the wheels need to lift everything else off
the surface?
L16[06:03:11] <darsie> The latter, it
seems.
L17[06:03:59] <darsie> And some symmetry is
required, it seems.
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L19[06:13:24] <darsie> Or not. Seems a bug
didn't let three wheels count. It now works with three
wheels.
L20[06:18:01] <packbart> Interesting. I
never got a contract with that requirement, yet
L22[06:21:09] <darsie> Only wheels may
touch the surface.
L23[06:25:42] <hatrix> I want Duna missions
:(
L24[06:25:47] <darsie> Get one.
L25[06:25:57] <darsie> Have you been
there?
L26[06:26:20] <hatrix> only in orbit
L27[06:26:25] <darsie> That should
suffice.
L28[06:26:38] <Althego> you get duna
missions even before going there
L29[06:26:43] <hatrix> i don't :o
L30[06:26:43] <darsie> If there's non, wait
till the contracts expire, like 7 days.
L31[06:26:45] <Althego> probably with low
probability
L32[06:26:57] <Althego> i treat those as a
form of loan, i get a lot of money for doing nothing
L33[06:27:03] <hatrix> I went there with my
own funds because I needed science
L34[06:27:15] <darsie> If there's none,
wait till the contracts expire, like 7 days.
L35[06:27:28] <darsie> then check again.
Repeat.
L36[06:28:28] <darsie> Doing the
Kerbin/Mun/Minmus missions gets you Duna missions, too.
L37[06:29:16] <hatrix> maybe I just didn't
do the right one
L38[06:29:29] <hatrix> I've been several
times to Minmus and the Mun with tourists
L39[06:29:34] <hatrix> several stations in
orbit too
L40[06:29:41] <darsie> Mun and
Minmus?
L41[06:29:48] <hatrix> yes
L42[06:30:00] <darsie> If there's none,
wait till the contracts expire, like 7 days. then check again.
Repeat.
L43[06:30:13] <hatrix> will do will do
:)
L44[06:30:14] <darsie> How often did you
try that?
L45[06:30:26] <hatrix> never
L46[06:30:31] <darsie> Try 5-10 times
L47[06:30:32] <hatrix> I'll try this
evening when I get home
L48[06:31:12] <darsie> no, hit max time
warp and enter mission control after 7 days
L49[06:31:21] <darsie> ahh, evening.
nm.
L50[06:31:23] <hatrix> :D
L51[06:31:36] <darsie> I read every
evening.
L52[06:58:45] <darsie> I can't get a
minimal Duna surface station contract. Always something extra like
a research lab, fuel or pilots.
L53[07:00:01] <hatrix> I hate those with
pilots
L54[07:00:11] <hatrix> I always need to
plan another mission to get them back
L55[07:01:19] <darsie> You can leave them
there.
L56[07:02:39] <darsie> I left my Minmus
research lab scientists there.
L57[07:03:02] <hatrix> I just have the
original four
L58[07:03:07] <hatrix> + 2 I rescued from
space
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L60[07:04:14] <darsie> You can hire or
rescue more.
L61[07:04:48] <darsie> Wanna know an easy
way to rescue Kerbals from LKO?
L62[07:05:04] <hatrix> go ahead
L63[07:05:23] <hatrix> I usually rendezvous
with an unmaned pod with parachutes
L64[07:08:16] <darsie> I have a wake up
satellite in orbit. Just an Oscar B with an ant etc. close flyby
with the Kerbal, switch over, EVA, jetpack to ~70.5 circular orbit,
3.1 EVA fuel burn to deorbit, land with parachute, or skydive
horizontally to a low altitude, ideally sea where terminal velocity
is low and impact survivable.
L65[07:10:51] <hatrix> kerbals can actually
survive reentry?
L66[07:11:02] <darsie> yes
L67[07:11:10] <darsie> Try my recipe.
L68[07:11:31] <packbart> turn them sideways
during reentry
L69[07:11:36] <darsie> no
L70[07:11:57] <packbart> in my tests, they
overheated otherwise
L71[07:11:58] <darsie> Burn retrograde and
leave them until the heat is over.
L72[07:12:07] <darsie> 3.1 EVA fuel
L73[07:12:21] <hatrix> I think I'll stick
with a rocket though, I prefer to be kinda realistic
L74[07:12:39] <darsie> Who says it's
unrealistic? This is not Earth.3
L76[07:14:22] <hatrix> really
L77[07:15:39] <darsie> They never did it,
but it might work.
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L113[14:17:02] *
darsie sends Valentina and Jerbin on a one way mission to Duna
surface.
L114[14:33:25] <UmbralRaptop> Will they
survive impact?
L115[14:45:25] <darsie> Probably.
Initially I wanted to use one or two cubes as crumpling zone, but I
would have to dump the tank and engine first and thought ... why
not use the engine? So my great idea turned into a conventional
mission.
L116[14:45:44] <darsie> There's a
parachute, too.
L117[14:46:02] <darsie> Will they survive
entry?
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L126[15:52:52] <JVFoxy> wee.. experiments
with ground stations
L127[15:53:49] <JVFoxy> seeing what setups
work and can reach geostationary satellites with reasonsable signal
strengths
L128[16:05:51] <NGC3982> darsie: you can
do it!
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L132[16:23:26] <packbart> even shorter
days than on Earth? I'm not moving there
L134[16:24:06] <packbart> Tesla Aurora
Charger
L135[16:25:26] <JVFoxy> Ablate... well
ouch 3480 k...
L136[16:25:54] <JVFoxy> lol.. ground..
power.. whats the diff
L137[16:28:45] <UmbralRaptop>
"days" it's tidally locked
L138[16:28:45] <packbart> oh wait - it's
year is less than a day long if I read that right. Impressive,
too
L139[16:29:34] <UmbralRaptop> … wait,
isn't 3480 K like M0, or something
L140[16:30:18] <packbart> its year. funny
how those typos happen
L141[16:31:37] <UmbralRaptop> wikiality
says ~M2. hrm
L142[16:31:58] <JVFoxy> m0 m2.. eh? not
familiar with those
L143[16:34:55] <UmbralRaptop> I'm being
silly by applying stellar spectral classes to a planet
L144[16:35:03] <UmbralRaptop> OBAFGKM
etc
L145[16:35:31] <JVFoxy> ah the spectral
classes, got ya
L147[16:36:37] <UmbralRaptop> yeah
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L153[17:05:37] <JVFoxy> a little something
that came up in a chat else where....
L155[17:06:26] <JVFoxy> a while back I
came across a little program that helped figure out day, year
cycles, planet/sun masses. Used it to figure out a fictional planet
for something i was writing up on.
L156[17:07:29] <JVFoxy> like to really do
something else with it. Although, how difficult is it to replace
the solar system in KSP with a custom?
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