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L28[06:37:41] <darsie> Single stage Mun
sample return mission?
L29[06:38:07] <darsie> .eightball Single
stage Mun sample return mission?
L30[06:48:48] <Althego> no
L31[06:51:12] <darsie> k :)
L32[06:54:12] <packbart> a suffusion of
yellow
L33[06:54:56] <darsie> That's an uncommon
eightball response.
L34[06:56:14] <packbart> Indeed, it is more
commonly given by an electronic I Ching calculator
L35[07:37:10] <darsie> I wonder if landing
legs make my big rocket more or less stable.
L36[07:37:20] <darsie> s/big/tall
L37[07:37:47] <darsie> At least it
shouldn't bounce as much at landing.
L38[07:37:55] <darsie> Or differently
:).
L39[07:42:40] <hatrix> is there a way to
make SAS only use reaction wheels and not RCS?
L40[07:43:02] <hatrix> SAS using RCS while
docking makes it harder
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L42[07:44:17] <darsie> hatrix: Disable
RCS.
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L44[07:44:26] <hatrix> I need them to dock
though
L45[07:44:39] <packbart> I don't think so.
You could disable roll/yaw/pitch controls on the RCS
thrusters
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L47[07:52:29] <darsie> Hmm, 2426 m/s left
in orbit. Leaving the legs at home ...
L48[07:53:00] <hatrix> depends where you're
going
L49[07:56:12] <darsie> Mun and back.
L50[07:56:25] <darsie> single stage sample
return.
L51[08:02:26] <darsie> 2496 m/s without
landing legs and big reaction wheels. That's possible, but
difficult.
L52[08:03:57] <darsie> Attitude control
during Mun landing would have to be via thrust gimballing
only.
L53[08:04:23] <darsie> vectoring*
L54[08:18:13] <darsie> Ahh, forgot to empty
the capsules monopropellant tank.
L55[08:18:33] <darsie> Two more m/s
:).
L56[08:18:57] <Althego> hehe
L57[08:19:00] <Althego> huge
L58[08:23:02] <darsie> Should add
engineer's report to the check list.
L59[08:24:02] <darsie> I omitted the 200 EC
battery, too, now. No dv change indicated, but the capsules
reaction wheels take 250 s to drain the internal 50 EC ...
L60[08:25:14] <darsie> I'm sticking with 3
small solar panels, even though one would suffice.
L61[08:25:50] <darsie> Hmm, I'm cancelling
the chute :).
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L63[08:26:42] <darsie> 5 more m/s, and
better aerodynamic with the small nose cone :).
L64[08:27:43] <darsie> Stack separator
goes, too. 2 more m/s.
L65[08:29:17] <darsie> Hmm, the wind will
probably rip Jeb off the capsule before he can take the surface
sample ...
L66[08:29:48] <darsie> Nah, will get out in
suborbit.
L67[08:30:35] <darsie> Hmm, that might
count as staging.
L68[08:30:49] <darsie> What you say?
L69[08:31:39] <darsie> Is getting out in
suborbit and jetpacking to Kerbin surface staging?
L70[08:34:09] <darsie> I say it's ok, if I
don't jetpack to the orbital station to refuel the jetpack.
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L100[12:35:32] <darsie> I don't think I
can land this rocket without 4 big RWs.
L101[12:35:51] <darsie> With only thrust
vectoring.
L102[12:37:52] <Althego> so you have to
use tug matrixing
L103[12:39:35] <darsie> There's a tug
pulling me down.
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L116[14:16:19] *
darsie found a trick. Seems possible now.
L117[14:20:04] <darsie> To land on the
Mun: burn retrograde, retrograde marker will move up, rocket starts
turning up, stop thrust when retrograde marker is at zenith, rocket
keeps turning, save then rocket is vertical. Load. The rocket is
now vertical without rotating or horizontal speed. I theory.
L118[14:20:32] <darsie> s/then/when
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L124[15:06:56] <Althego> spacex in 5 hours
12 minutes
L125[15:07:07] <Althego> i think i am
going to sleep through this one
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L129[15:13:57] <packbart> just more
starlinks, anyway. I don't care much about those
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L147[17:31:56] <darsie> .
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L155[18:03:24] <Jeff> What if you could
plant a flag on kerbol
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L158[18:07:34] <packbart> it would
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L163[18:18:58] <darsie> Single stage Mun
sample return.
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L172[19:29:46] <transit> so why was i
banned?
L173[19:29:53] <transit> no messages
nothing?
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L175[19:59:54] <darsie> Pheww, my single
stage Mun surface sample return completed.
L177[20:02:35] <darsie> Starlink
Mission
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error: Connection reset by peer)
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timeout: 378 seconds)
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(Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
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(Quit: Any fool can calculate)
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(flub2!~Fluburtur@2a01:e34:ecf7:d4f0:64fd:47b0:e855:6c75) (Read
error: Connection reset by peer)
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UmbralRaptop ? things
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(Tank2333_!~Tank2333@p508538C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Remote host
closed the connection)
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Quits: Tank2333 (Tank2333!~Tank2333@p508538C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
(Remote host closed the connection)
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(pacbard!~pacbard@68.237.202.35.bc.googleusercontent.com) (Read
error: Connection reset by peer)
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(Quit: Any fool can calculate)
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(Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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