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L1[00:44:43] <darsie> Finally my Mammoth rocket splashed down, or what's left from reentry: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot59.png
L2[00:46:21] <darsie> It landed single stage on the Mun and came back. I tried soo many times to fly by the Mun to get to Kerbin, but I had to land more efficiently to get enough dv to pull it off. That also took many attempts.
L3[00:46:28] <darsie> 7:46 am now.
L4[00:47:45] <darsie> Mammoth on the Mun: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot55.png Eventually I had 801 m/s left there.
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L8[01:14:44] <Althego> it is so ahrd to land tall objects on uneven surfaces
L9[01:14:58] <Althego> although it seems elon thinks it is possible
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L13[04:36:48] <estorado> hi Kerbals, I like to build a CommNet, any tips for a good construction or where could I found some?
L14[04:37:04] <Mat2ch> Althego: Elon does a good scan and land on the even parts.
L15[04:37:19] <Mat2ch> And then they unload a bulldozer and make more even parts.
L16[04:37:56] <Althego> hehe
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L18[05:16:39] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x07GPmWp63I&list=PLPnDYki-MdiUVSpmxuNVgxlih8fsIETyH&index=2
L19[05:16:42] <Althego> related
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L36[11:23:43] <darsie> You can comment now on my single stage Mun mission :).
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L38[11:27:58] <Althego> i thought chatzilla stopped working a while back
L39[11:28:18] <Althego> oh wait 2015, probably od firefox
L40[11:28:20] <Althego> old
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L48[12:13:32] <NGC3982> darsie: rapier?
L49[12:13:52] <darsie> Mammoth, I said.
L50[12:14:09] <Althego> because bigger boosters are better i guess
L51[12:14:35] <darsie> It has an outstanding TWR.
L52[12:14:47] <NGC3982> could you return to kerbin orbit on the dV you have left?
L53[12:14:53] <darsie> yes
L54[12:15:20] <Althego> with 769 it would be even possible to land
L55[12:15:28] <NGC3982> that thrust limiter and a little smudge on the shift key would be enough i guess
L56[12:15:29] <darsie> Had to redo the landing more efficiently, then boosted to SOI and from there took a Mun flyby to Kerbin.
L57[12:15:50] <NGC3982> i would never work out the landing with a tall piece like that
L58[12:15:53] <darsie> Kerbin SOI
L59[12:15:58] <Althego> water
L60[12:16:00] <NGC3982> darsie: cool. good job.
L61[12:16:21] <darsie> Well, It splashed down hard, half of it. The rest exploded during reentry.
L62[12:16:48] <darsie> I just plugged together a huge rocket and then it became a mission after I had 2501 m/s left in orbit.
L63[12:17:30] <darsie> Rocket kept falling over at landing.
L64[12:17:57] <darsie> For a "real" mission I'd add some more fuel and a payload with parachute.
L65[12:18:11] <NGC3982> that's always my problem
L66[12:18:15] <NGC3982> i build to tall
L67[12:18:18] <NGC3982> too*
L68[12:18:49] <NGC3982> i wish the robotic parts would be sturdier when extended so i could build really, really wide landing gear setups
L69[12:18:59] <NGC3982> can that be solved with the dampening option?
L70[12:19:00] <darsie> I transferred the little remaining fuel to the lower tank for the improved landing. Didn't make much difference.
L71[12:19:07] <Althego> no, the way is to build a flat lander
L72[12:19:43] <darsie> The 4 big reaction wheels were not too much.
L73[12:20:05] <Althego> add an "erection mechanism" :)
L74[12:20:11] <NGC3982> :)
L75[12:20:14] <Althego> maybe solids
L76[12:20:29] <darsie> Solids? For landing?
L77[12:20:43] <Althego> no, for making the rocket vertical agian
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L79[12:21:03] <darsie> Make the rocket vertical again :).
L80[12:21:29] <darsie> No pun other than Trump intended :).
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L82[12:22:17] <NGC3982> i was thinking. can docking ports be connected if already attached to one machine?
L83[12:22:44] <darsie> That's the point of docks, right?
L84[12:22:51] <Althego> hehe
L85[12:23:03] <NGC3982> no, but neither is transformer robot jet space planes on eve
L86[12:23:08] <NGC3982> but people build them
L87[12:23:11] <NGC3982> and that's ksp for you
L88[12:23:16] <NGC3982> if i for instance wanted to build something that moved parts with hinges and 'locked them' with docking ports that could potentially
L89[12:23:24] * darsie is confused. Or is it NGC3982?
L90[12:23:29] <NGC3982> ..solve what im looking for
L91[12:23:40] <Althego> so about that transformer, you have a link for that?
L92[12:24:04] <NGC3982> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/182445-kerbal-mecha-collection/
L93[12:24:18] <NGC3982> lol. "What is being shown is scale, what is not being shown is my pc melting"
L94[12:24:21] <NGC3982> :D.
L95[12:24:56] <Althego> hehe classic macross
L96[12:25:22] <darsie> Is that page loading slowly?
L97[12:25:31] <NGC3982> yes
L98[12:25:38] <NGC3982> https://gfycat.com/@Colonel_Cbplayer <- holy smokes
L99[12:26:33] <NGC3982> my pc can't even handle those gifs
L100[12:27:09] <Althego> the gif that keeps on gifing :)
L101[12:27:56] <NGC3982> https://gfycat.com/victoriousharmoniousamericanavocet <- i think this is the one i remembered
L102[12:28:14] <NGC3982> it had like 100k upvotes on reddit
L103[12:29:10] <NGC3982> "You don't actually have to have same vessel interaction enabled to have two docking ports (junjors only?) on the same vessel dock to each other."
L104[12:29:18] <NGC3982> cool, it seems to be working
L105[12:29:43] <NGC3982> that would be a cool way to robotisize vessels without lowering stability
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L134[16:29:36] <darsie> Ohh, btw, I saw a ... handle on the Mun.
L135[16:31:41] <raptop> How did you think the Great Kraken placed the Mun in its current orbit?
L136[16:32:11] <raptop> (More seriously, the arches have been there since a terrain revamp ages ago. I think after the 0.14.2 one?)
L137[16:33:22] <darsie> Are they bugs or eggs?
L138[16:35:54] <raptop> eggs
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L140[16:39:05] <darsie> Well, then, SPOILER WARNING. I found a handle on the Mun: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot60.png
L141[16:45:49] <darsie> More handle pics: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot63.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot68.png
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L145[17:35:49] * darsie built a new surface outpost on Minmus :) http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot70.png
L146[17:37:39] <darsie> Ohh, it's rolling :)
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